/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Eat yourself, then you'll eat a vegie.

Stop being lazy, and if you can't do that, buy vegetables pre-chopped.

And for the record, steak and toast aren't actually any less prep. work intensive than working with vegetables, when you buy precut meat or bread that someone else baked, that means you've paid extra to have someone else do that work for you.

including vegetables is as easy as putting some in the pan with your eggs/bacon/steak
also did you know that you can eat vegetables RAW?
WOW!!! THATS RIGHT, YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO COOK THEM!!!

>>5373512
This.

OP, go to your nearest asian grocer and get some taro root (similar to potato), slice it up and eat it raw with your steak and eggs, you'll love it.

>>5373525
That will make you sick OP. Don't listen to this fuckwit.

>>5373484

>salad
>Spinach
>broccoli
>tomatoes

It's simple.

>>5373525
Isn't that the shit that has pieces of silicon in it or something like that which needs to be cooked to soften or else it will slice up your throat as you eat it?

>>5373542
That's what I was thinking.

>>5373544
Any dressing or sauteing of any of the veggies in this or steaming the broccoli?

>>5373484

>For example: eggs, toast, and bacon with a glass of milk is a nice breakfast that is easy and quick.

It's a tasty breakfast, but your post gives the impression that you're looking for a healthy, balanced diet, and that breakfast, as well as the steak afterwards, is far from it

>>5373579
So what would you suggest I add/remove from said breakfast?

as a side dish

youre a lazy hunk of shit, op
so i recommend doing some chopped veg traybakes as a learning experiment to track what cooks at what speed

preheat your oven, add broccoli, green beans, tomatoes, carrot coins or batons, mushrooms, whatever the hell you want to eat to an oiled/lined baking tray, add spices (if youre a total cooking noob, salt + pepper + aromat, maybe chili powder if thats up your alley) and drizzle in oil of choice (olive, sesame, what have you, soy or hot sauce if youre a manchild)

most things take /about/ 15 minutes on 180*C
if you're really not sure and you're worried about burning things, google it

>>5373584

Remove the eggs, remove the toast (or switch to 100% whole wheat), remove the bacon, remove the milk, add a bowl of oats, add fruit

>>5373555
Has calcium oxalate in it.

>>5373590
So you are basically saying a good meal would be something like mixed fresh fruit, a bowl of oatmeal, and whole wheat toast?

>>5373619

Yeah, though oatmeal and whole wheat toast might be a bit redundant. You could instead mix some nuts in with the oats, or spread peanut butter on the toast, whatever you decide to eat in the morning. Fruit is always a good way to start the day though

>>5373620
I always kept a bag of apples around anyways just because cooking makes me impatient and hungry, so I always end up snacking on an apple while waiting for everything to cook. Fruit isn't as much of an issue for me as veggies.

Veggies I buy with good intent and then I find myself always throwing them out because it was just easier and quicker to make other things. Then the veggies go bad and I throw them out. I actually made this thread shortly after having to throw out a bunch of asparagus I had planned to broil with olive oil and sea salt.

>>5373632

The best advice I can give is basically "quit fucking around and eat your vegetables"

By that I mean to just make a habit out of cooking and eating vegetables, even if it's something you have to schedule and force yourself to do. All the vegetables I'm thinking of aren't much of a hassle to cook, so I'm not exactly sure what you're having trouble with though. Maybe it would help to not view vegetables the same as your other foods, but as a necessity of diet rather than something you're eating just for taste. Don't think "I could cook asparagus right now, but it'd be faster to cook something else," just think of it as "I need to cook this asparagus because I want that sweet-ass nutrition"

op if youre really desperate and really lazy you can buy bags of frozen vegetables and microwave them in something with a loose lid

when i was super poor my dinner was 2 cups of mixed frozen veggies (broccoli, carrot, sweetcorn and peas) in ramen

>>5373484
Regarding your breakfast, add half a tomato (grilled with the bacon/egg) and half an avocado. BAM you got two serves in your tasty breakfast.

Recently I found mirepoix and holy hell it makes veggies so much better. I used to have steamed green beans plain, but now I also do this:
Wash, chop and steam some green beans
Whilst they are steaming, dice red onion, carrot and celery (you can use other "aromatic" vegetables) - the mirepoix - and sautée in a pan with olive oil. When they start to brown slightly they beans should be about done, add the beans to the mirepoix, salt and pepper, stir it up. It's a really good side dish, and at least two serves. It doesn't take much time or effort. And you can have it finished before you do the steak, just heat up the pan again when you are ready to eat

I also eat a salad sandwich for lunch most days (usually toasted with some cold cut meat and cheese)

>>5373707

>add half a tomato (grilled with the bacon/egg) and half an avocado. BAM you got two serves in your tasty breakfast

I don't think half a tomato or half an avocado counts as a full serving of anything, but the point of adding vegetables to your diet is to improve your health, which requires more than just adding good food to your bad food, but elimininating or drastically reducing the bad food as well

>>5373484
Don't cook them then.
Now every other day I chiffonade a bunch of cabbage, cucumbers and other assorted veg for salad. Takes 5~10 minutes for two days worth of salad.
Fruits are one thing I am always too lazy to deal with. I make smoothies with them instead.

>>5373715
How much (in gms) is one serving?

>>5373590
This is horseshit and don't listen to it, grains are fucking unhealthy and also horrible for your teeth. Toast is more than enough in a day. Bacon and eggs with milk is perfect. Porridge us unhealthy and you will want to avoid it as well as bread and other grains whenever you can.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/definitive-guide-grains/

>>5373484
Personally I enjoy tomatoes with eggs, at least if they're scrambled eggs. If they are, you can add spring onion to freshen them up. After your breakfast when you're headed out the door, eat a banana, apple or a peeled carrot. Bam, two servings before your day even starts.

>>5373484
>eggs, toast, and bacon with a glass of milk is a nice breakfast that is easy and quick.
Add fried mushrooms and tomatoes. You can prepare them in the same pan as the eggs and bacon.

>>5373484
1. Buy cucumbers, carrots, celery and whatever other dipable veggies you like.

2. Buy whatever sort of salad dressing you like or make it yourself, whatever it's your life fagot.

3. When you feel like snacking dip veggies in dressing and eat.

Or just buy cucumbers and eat them if you really want to keep it simple.

>>5374029
>huuuur this guy's blod shows why grains are unhealthy, despite even nasa using grains for astronauts and the massive evidence backing grains such as oats, flax and amaranth


>but I say grains are unhealthy guise, cuz some beefy dude said so in his shitty website

>bacon and eggs are ok though

lel

>>5374029

>marksdailyapple

This is like saying "no, that whole evolution thing is wrong, the earth is only 6000 years old!" and then linking to a Christian science website

>>5374422
>snacking dip veggies in dressing and eat

Is it true that Americans cannot eat veggies without some kind of "dressing" or "dip"?

>>5374727

Of course not, sometimes they simply melt cheese onto the vegetables

>>5374727

depends on the individual? i mean obviously

>>5373484
pan "fried" tomatos for breakfast

>>5373484
buy zucchini and squash. saute, steam or grill. Never have to dislike vegetables again

>>5373484
ratatouille
probably one of my favorite lazy veg dishes. All it takes is some tomatoes, zucchini, eggplant onion, pure olive oil, and some herb de provence.

Get a steamer basket and steam frozen vegetables. Takes like 15 minutes max for enough for one person.

>>5373484
For breakfast just add some cooled, sliced tomatoes on the side of the plate with a dash of salt and pepper. Add some fried mushrooms. You can actually fry them whole with the stems removed and they fry/steam to perfection when they begin to taste "meat-like"; Think a perfectly grilled portabello, but even a regular mushroom will do.
Steak w/ onions, mushroom, green onions, potatoes, etc. Microwave the potato first before baking it to save time. Easy.
tl;dr: Adding vegetables is easy.

saute vegetables, set aside, put eggs in pan, scramble 1/2 way, add veg back in
or:
make an omelette
make a frittata
make a strata
make a quiche
these, while not quite as easy and fast, aren't difficult, and strata and quiche can be refrigerated and reheated and still be very nice

Bottom line, learn to cook vegetables.
It's not that difficult to get a decent result and worth the small amount of prep.
You will find shortcuts and flavoring tricks that work for you.
Learn how to par cook for refrigeration and freezing.
Learn about aromatics.
a quick saute of onions -and/or shallots and/or garlic- maybe some citrus zest, then add par cooked veg, season, a little herbs and acidity, saute until warm, and you'll have a nice result
Once you get a decent basic technique down with consistent results, start playing around with different kinds of acids, like wine, vinegars, citrus juices, tomatoes (juice, paste, crushed, diced, whatever), balancing them out with sweeter things and different combinations of herbs added at different times.
Start playing around with your saute technique. Start caramelizing things, slow and low or crust formation, for example. Understanding how the oils you're using will react to different heat levels and time periods. Watch how the vegetable react to the cooking processes, tweak things as you go.
Learn about sauces.
A quick pan sauce is easy.
If you really get into it, you can use sauce techniques as basic flavoring techniques for vegetables, such as a gastrique, or a glaze, or a reduction, or mounting butter and liaisons.
That's what makes cooking fun and enjoyable for me. All of the little tweaks that make the natural inconsistencies in things work to your advantage.

>>5373484
Steam some broccoli/greenbeans/peas/corn/zucchini, serve to the side.

Voila.

Experiment from there.

>>5373707
>mirepoix
this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirepoix_(cuisine)
sometimes this alone is my side dish, cos it just tastes good and its easy as fuck to make

>>5374029
mark pls go

>>5373484
Pick one day a week (starting out), and go buy fresh vegetables, bring them home and immediately wash, slice or dice, and store in plastic containers to use throughout the week. Then it's just a matter of pulling out which ones you want to use and throwing them in your pan or dish. That's what I do. If you have a food processor with a slicing blade, it goes even faster. Couldn't be more simple, and 100% worth it.

>>5376082
>pan "fried" tomatos
>"fried"
> " "

why did you do that?

>>5373484
>have to know what veggies cook the quickest so you can know what order all the veggies are inserted
This is something that you get the hang of pretty quickly and isn't too difficult to figure out. Denser things take longer to cook.
But rather than adding them at different times, you can often just adjust the size you cut them to so that they all take the same time to cook.
I'd recommend vegetable hash if you want to get some more into your diet easily, also stews and soups are great.

>>5373620
I dunno if you're still here but I saw your post and was wondering if vegemite would be a good substitute for peanut butter on the toast accompanying oats w/ fruit?

>>5376147
This. Steaming also works with fresh veggies in addition to frozen. Also, flash-boiling veggies works just as well as steaming if you decide not to buy a steamer basket. The process basically goes like this:
>bring some water to a boil
>season the water if you want
>add 2 handfuls of whatever veggies you're cooking to the boiling water (veggies should be cut up however you want)
>the drop in temperature will cause water to stop boiling
>in about a minute, water will boil again (more or less time depending on how big your handfuls are/how big the pot is)
>fish out the veggies
>repeat until you have all the veggies you want

In some ways flash-boiling veggies is better than steaming. Both are healthy ways to cook veggies, but flash boiling can be much faster and makes it easier to prevent your veggies from overcooking and turning a brown/grey color. Steaming is great too, since you can just leave everything in the pot and walk away for a while (just remember to set a timer so the veggies don't overcook). After steaming or flash-boiling some veggies, you can also heat some olive oil in a pan, cook some large chunks of garlic in there, let the flavor of the garlic infuse into the oil for a while, then toss the steamed/boiled veggies in there like stir fry for a minute or two. It'll be so delicious, you'll actually look forward to preparing and eating veggies (don't worry about the garlic chunks, they won't make it into your mouth if you actually look at your plate while you eat). With the water left over from steaming/flash-boiling, you can make veggie stock too.

Also, it's always nice to keep a container of mixed frozen veggies in the freezer. Blends of green beans, corn, carrots and peas are common. They are very inexpensive and cook almost instantly since the veggies are so tiny. You can easily throw some of them into omelettes, casseroles, pasta, soup, etc. without precooking or thawing them.

>>5376296
cant you figure that out for yourself?
JEEZ

>>5376296

It's hard to compare; the peanut butter offers decent nutritional benefit while the vegemite is just a salty flavor spread. Eat what you like though

>>5376354
Um no Vegemite is malt, rich in b vitamins.