/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>5361852
America has a lot of regional cuisines, but southern and new England ones certainly stand out the most.

Chicken w/ Dumplings, Biscuits w/ Gravy, all sorts of BBQ like ribs, brisket, etc., theres a lot of stuff that is american actually.

Soul Food, TexMex, Delis and Diners

>>5361857
>lobster roll

I have only had them once(at a place that got em fresh off the boat that morning) and they are fucking incredible. I tried to make it myself when I got back home, and I couldn't even get close(can only get frozen lobster here).

Diners always struck me as having the most quintessentially American food. Southern and barbeque come to mind close after, but it'd be hard to pick a definitive style given how varied American cuisine is.

Southern foods, Louisiana "creole" food, etc

BBQ
steaks
Diner/"homestyle"
Southwest

anything with lobster
cajun(although technically they were french canadian exiles, not american)
tex mex(as in, anything you eat in america that you think of as mexican food, actually came from texas)
new england food
soul food
etc
ps burgers

New England represent!
\o/

pic related

>>5362129
> thinking McDicks is representative of American food

>>5362129

>>5362131
It is though: mass-produced, hyper-marketed, ultra-processed, cheap, bland, and made for the masses.

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>>5362139

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>>5362166

America(usa) is about giant hunks of meat namely steaks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH8GKagWLf8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dtTYd2sX80

>>5362155
I fucking remember that school pizza.

>>5361852
>not saucin' up the Tussin' on those pepperoni burgers

American food is just a hodgepodge of ethnic foods brought over and adapted by immigrants generations ago for American ingredients and poverty.

There's no such thing as "real" American cuisine. It's all real.

>>5362300
>ethnic foods

True american terminology right there.

>>5362155
What the fuck? You give chips to schoolboys as part of their lunch? And PIZZA with milk as a drink?

No wonder why you have such a big obesity epidemic.

>>5362347
>schoolboys

why do you sound like a British pedophile

>>5362359
If I was british I would have used "crisps" instead of "chips".

>>5362347
OMG NO NOT THE PIZZA! THE POOR KIDS HAVING TO EAT [GASP] CARBS

LETS INSTEAD FEED THEM POORLY CANNED TASTELESS GOOP.

SURELY THEY WILL EAT THAT INSTEAD AND NOT GIVE EACH OTHER HANDJOBS FOR A BAG OF CHIPS.

FUCK OFF, MICHELE ONBONGO

BBQ

Various interpretations from Carolina, Kansas City, Memphis and Texas. Each city is unique in it's style. I've never seen pic related anywhere but America

>>5362402
>I've never seen pic related anywhere but America

Most people don't want cancer. I know murrka does though. So eat up and dial that 911.

>>5362419
really? You've never seen chinese bbq, korean bbq, or barbacoa? Damn, you are one sheltered autist.

>>5362364
You can fuck off. We weren't exactly rich when I was a child and we don't have lunchrooms in my country, so I've had it tough before. You're giving your children cheap, unhealthy garbage to eat.

>>5362137
pic related

true american food is bbq and soul food, also cajun and around boston they have amazing food.

>>5362419
>implying all of this isn't part of a great diet

if eaten in moderation of course, amerifats can't seem to grasp that.

>>5362297

dem squares mang

People always forget about Cajun food (or it just gets lumped into southern)

Anyone got any love for some swamp food?

>>5363292
Thats a large part of the problem right there.
'Murrica has turned into a culture of excess. Instead of just eating till you're not hungry any more, we're raised to 'eat till you're full'.
Extra large portions of everything, covered in grease and salts and other preservatives.
Especially preservatives.
A good portion of the nation was alive during, or around the great depression, and they've carried over this phobia of food going bad. So now everythings gotta have a shelf life of 100 years.

>>5363323
damn, forgot my picture

>>5362297
they do this tableside

>>5363323
I cook a little cajun up from time to time

Beans rice chicken, okra, onion, maters

did it up Mmmm

>>5362085
Did lobster eating start in the America's?

This, Starbucks, Donuts and Apple Pie.

>>5363616
I don't think europeans ever ate lobster, and neither did native americans.
at the very least, they never ate good lobster.

Greetings from the Midwest! Home of casseroles.

Pls kill me

Bison, Turkey, Corn and Beans

The Salt Lick

>>5363696

Hotdish in and of itself isn't a terrible idea; it's essentially what lasagna is (inb4 autists, my point is the shit's in layers) and has the potential to be executed well. It gets a bad rap thanks to moms who can't really cook and just throw chicken, green beans, and cream of mushroom soup in a dish, cover it with American cheese and bake it to hell.

>>5363709
>thesaltlick
not at all appealing

>>5362402
>I've never seen pic related anywhere but America

My problem with BBQ is that it's not really about the meat because it gets absolutely drenched in sauce. I mean, I get marinating your meat and all, but I'd like to actually taste what I'm eating. Others also BBQ, but it's more about celebrating the meat itself. Mediterranean region in particular is all about wooden coal slow barbequing on a grill.

>>5363709
That's what your mum calls me.

>>5363637
Holy wut hahahaha

>>5362085
>implying cajuns and creoles are the same thing
>implying cajuns aren't americans
>implying creole cuisine of New Orleans isn't american

Shiggity diggity

>>5365479
>it gets absolutely drenched in sauce.

That's only true in gas stations and in Kansas City

Try traveling more!

Hamburger -> originally 'frikandelle' from Hamburg, Germany
Hotdog -> originally 'frankfurter' from Frankfurt, Germany
Pizza -> Italy
Cajun food -> France
BBQ -> Spain

enjoy your real 'American' 'cuisine'.

American 'cuisine'= common snack food from all over the world

>>5365550
>BBQ
>Spain

No.

Smoking meats has existed in almost every culture for thousands of years. What American barbecue does though differently is the use of a sauce, either vinegar or tomato based ( usually tomato of some kind).

There are many accounts ( of which I've read some of the primary sources) that documents the native americans smoking turkeys, bison, deer, and fish and eating them with a tomato - chili sauce with a sweetener of some kind.

If anything, it's native american.

>american cuisine

lel, the only real thing there are the numerous attempts to hide its nonexistence

>>5365554

>>5365553
almost right.

BBQing is already described in ancient Roman and Greek texts.
The ancient Chinese liked it as well.

>>5365553
also smoking meat =/= BBQ
although we could spend hours argueing about this.

>>5365550
Years ago I went to this place in Lanzarote where they were like grill/BBQ food using the heat from a volcano. It was pretty awesome.

>>5361852
>America
>having one true cuisine

Except for Native American food I guess

>>5365557
is that image a metaphor for america's attempts at cuisine? yes i agree.

>>5365567
>>5365565
>what is tomato based sauce

I suppose you could argue about the techniques used as well. A lot of the world cold smokes their meat.

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>>5365602
/facepalm

>>5362137
mcdonald's is practically more prevalent in countries overseas than in america

>>5365479
>My problem with BBQ is that it's not really about the meat because it gets absolutely drenched in sauce.

Come try Texas barbecue. In Texas, it is usually about the meat rather than the sauce. No good barbecue place in Texas will ever put sauce on the barbecue for you. If you want it, you add it yourself.

>>5365553
>What American barbecue does though differently is the use of a sauce, either vinegar or tomato based ( usually tomato of some kind).

Many places use sauces. But that is not true of all places. In Texas, most barbecue restaurants will have sauce you can add yourself if you wish but would never add it for you.

>>5362297
How do you even eat this.

How about calf fries?

For a real Texas ranch breakfast, calf fries with biscuits and gravy.

>>5367292
What are those

>American
>Cuisine

pick one.

>>5367312

Testicles.

>>5367312

Bull testicles.

If you look, you can also find lamb fries and turkey fries.

>>5367329

Forgot to mention, the picture is of turkey fries.

I've only ever seen these in one restaurant/club in Oklahoma. It was their standard appetizer.

In the same town the local grocery store used to have some turkey fries in the frozen foods section, but they never seemed to sell any of them.

i can't share anything complicated

but i recently had some black eyed peas w/ jalapenos and a fresh tomato. sprinkled a little salt and pepper on it.

sometimes i might also have cornbread with that if i feel like going through the trouble

>>5363323
I'm a Mississippi boy and I love my fried catfish, but I spent a little time in Louisiana growing up, and my God, but good gumbo is no less than the ninth, tenth, and eleventh wonders of the world. Jambalaya with big lumps of sausage, fried plantains, alligator...oh, now I've gone and made myself hungry.

>>5363696
I once believed that only factory mass-production of food, a la McDonalds, could produce an utterly flavorless result, the sort of food where after you eat it you feel ashamed and sort of vaguely wish you were dead.

Then I had a Wisconsinite roommate for a while. There were four of us in that apartment, her included, and after less than a week, without any discussion, her name was quietly removed from the cooking column of the weekly chores rota.

The weird part is, the woman was damn near spherical. I'll be goddamned if I can understand how anyone could possibly get as fat as she was on food as boring as hers.

>>5365479
Memphis barbecue is the food of the gods. Pork is pork, serviceable but undistinguished; in the hands of a skilled Memphis-style BBQ kitchen, it becomes the sort of ambrosia which tempts black-hat Lubavitchers to sin. (You think I'm kidding, but I've seen it happen.)

>>5361852
BBQ

also Nebraska has the best beef on planet earth

>>5367517

Only if it is grass fed beef.

I usually associate corn fed beef with Nebraska. Remember that the reason for feeding corn to cattle is to make them grow abnormally quickly so that they can be sold and butchered quicker in order to reduce the overall cost of raising the beef and make more profit. In other words, corn fed beef is about cheapness, not quality.

>>5367747
grass fed beef is the worst tasting beef i've ever tried. Fuck off.

>>5367750

You probably didn't cook it correctly.

Grass fed beef is generally going to be leaner than corn fed beef and needs to be cooked at a lower temperature and for a longer time than corn fed beef. The results are well worth it.

But if you try to cook it just like you would corn fed beef, it's not going to be at its best.

you're right

>>5367759
I do not care for lean beef.
The fat is where all the flavor is.
You are right about lean meat needing to be rare though. In fatty meat it's nice to have the fat water and runny.
Leaner stuff is better extra rare.

>>5362146
>that piss weak salad

California cuisine
Popcorn
Crab cakes
Chili
Wild rice
Custard
Reubens
Fusion

>>5367432
Wisconsin got some food things right.

>>5362300
>There's no such thing as "real" American cuisine.

There's the Natives, but I know that they do not count as real Americans in the US.

>>5368670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TgT-B9qLq8

>>5368170
fuck wisconsin, i ate that shit and three other god-tier fast food places and gained like 20 pounds. probably ate more fastfood because my kitchen was a piece of shit in the shared house in the part of town where you need bars

Jesus Christ, are Europeans capable of not shitposting when it relates to the US?

>>5368758
Don't be silly. If the leader of any European nation was found raping and consuming baby skulls, the eurotrash would still say it's our fault.

>>5369116
Hell, people say Russia and the Ukraine is our fault. It's always our fault. Even if they all ganged up and completely annihilated the entire nation to a smoking crater and had every American citizen lined up and shot...every minor catastrophe would be blamed on invisible American survivors skulking in the shadows.

>>5369123
>America has never destabilized any country or region

>>5369127
All kinds of countries have destabilized other countries in history, yet none of them ever have the same level of hate. I'm not even looking for sympathy anymore; I'm just fucking tired of it.

>>5362160
starch, starch, cheese and a fruit cup in syrup.

i love living in the states, but WTF is up with school lunches?

>>5369131
>All kinds of countries have destabilized other countries in history, yet none of them ever have the same level of hate.
I don't think you understand how many countries (that we know of) that have been overtly or covertly destabilized because of American "foreign politics".

People are sick of the so-called moral superpower antagonizing poor countries. There is nothing noble about this.

>Cuba, Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Russia, etc.

>>5369137
>poor country
>Russia
Dafuq

>>5369136
Ours looked nothing like that. They weren't great but chicken nuggets were like crack.

>>5369136
Moochelle Obozo.

anything with turkey lobster pumpkin maple blueberry cranberry corn potato tomato chocolate or peppers
get fucked europe

>>5362364

>In the USA, school lunches are required by federal law to either consist of pizza or canned food [5]

>>5369139
mine was generally better than that, but our school cook was a caterer in her free time and generally awesome in every way

If I remember, turkey wasn't in any of the old world. In fact, Euro-fags and other out of USA fags, do they even sell turkeys? Do you need to go to a 'Mericu store to buy them?

Better than chicken, the port into poultry, even Benjamin Franklin, the inventor of electric kites tried to make the USA national bird the turkey instead of the 'bald eagle'.

>>5365654
It is tho

No lies, I've straight been places and other countries love the fuck out of mcdonalds

>>5362300

brownies and fudge arent from Europe. 100% american.

>inb4 implying that's real food

>>5369166
you know they don't even teach elementary school kids that anymore
it was a fucking metaphor

>>5369170
Yea, I'd say 99% of the "hate" towards the USA is kind of just a misplaced hate that the world super power does some harm. It's so much easier to blame things on a large influential country than to find yourself at fault.

For example, everyone hated the usa for intervening in Afghanistan and Iraq. So much bastards for invading.

Oh, now Syria is unrest? usa do nothing? they are such bastards for sitting back and not intervening. So horrible.

I personally hate every fucking cunt who thinks this way. In my opinion instead of blaming a country whom you don't belong to, why not write or implore your own fucking countries leaders into doing something about it themselves.

>>5369166
>the inventor of kikes

Pretty sure kikes existed before lightbulb-man.

>>5369178
>intervening in Afghanistan and Iraq
>intervening

>>5369179
Iraq was a real invasion, but Afghanistan was pretty fucking complicated. It's not like we were invading a well defined and strongly established nation.

>>5369178
>>5369179
I'm the guy that replied about other countries loving mcdonalds. I don't think going to Afghanistan was intervening, but going to Iraq surely was only in the interest of oil. Also, mcdonalds is clearly corporate intervention. What a shit company.

>>5369189
corporate intervention can only exist where there is need to supply the demand.

If nobody bought it, no McDonalds would exist. However, since there are McD's, surely there is a need or they would not exist.

Simple supply and demand. So when you say 'intervene' I kind of don't really think that the intervention is necessarily a bad thing. They are supplying a need to those who want it. Just because you or others may not, doesn't mean you should reject their needs.

Unless you live in a dictatorship. Then your philosophy is to apply your own ideology upon others and force them to accept it. I guess that works for some nations, but most of the western world thinks that's not really a nice thing to do.

>>5365181
>>5365496
do you even know what a salt lick is

>>5368170

The GoAT. My only gripe is that they took away the Sweet Potato Fries. Their burgers and fries and custard is all good stuff, though.

>>5369202
>Simple supply and demand.
I suppose the billion dollar marketing budget helps.

>>5369210
Rule still applies. Unless you think that the human mind is completely manipulated by man-made suggestion and not by God?

>>5369210
advertising can't make anyone buy something they don't want

>>5369202
People don't petition their governments to let McDonalds enter their country so they can eat a 'burger,' something they may not have ever had depending on the country. McDonalds forces its cock straight in there because muh profit for top executives.

>>5369244
and the people buy it which allows them to expand

why don't people whine about subway, it's the biggest chain on the planet

>>5369252
Because subway gives the pretence that it's healthy?

>>5369252
I'm literally going to need a source for that claim

Mcdonalds is clearly the most prevalent

>>5369157
kek

I bet that other dude is just an angry poorfag.

>>5369260
how about the New York Times
Just passed McDonald's Monday.

>>5369265
Cool link

Your claim, you prove it. I'm not searching for other claims.

>>5369267

Jesus, he gave you the info, Google it yourself if you are so fucking interested.

>>5369267
sorry I meant the wall street journal
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748703386704576186432177464052

>>5369268
How new to 4chan are you buddy? Poster responsible for confirmation of a claim? Top lel, fuck yourself.

>>5369272
That is good and surprising info to know. Completely unexpected.

>>5369279
you're still an asshole how hard is it to google worlds largest franchise subway
I didn't even make the original claim I'm just some guy who googled it

>>5369279
How new are you? It's 4chan, not your middle school debate club. If you care so much, chuck a couple of keywords into a fucking search engine.

>>5369286
Then you're a classic newfaggot who googles unsubstantiated claims from anonymous users on the internet to see if they're true or not on a cooking board that has shills run through. You're literally the newest of the new. Go back to whatever shit website you came from. Your style sucks.

>>5369293

downboat, :,^{(
carrotface with moustache is sad

>>5366506
Shit, as a Texan I always wondered why my ribs weren't pre-sopped.

>>5369296
Nah forgive me I was harsh, you might get it one day :) (man with single pixel eyes smiles with an end parenthese)

>>5362166
not gunna lie, I'd eat the fuck out of this

fry bread, corn and beans and shit. are you guys idiots?

>>5369523
Not real Americans. Only white Americans are true Americans.

>>5368668
R.I fag reporting in

>>5369523
>nativeamerican
>american
American culture is very similar to Canada's in the sense it is a lot of different cultures

>>5361852
http://www.vintagerecipes.net/books/

here's a great collection of antique cookbooks and recipes, lots of old style cookery from before the age of freezers and premade foods

>>5363709
i imagine that smells really good

>>5363323
>>5363404
>>5365543
>>5367431


There is no such thing as Cajun food, that was marketing for state tourism made in the 70's and 80's

But anyways I enjoy rustic and rural Creole (what Cajun actually is) food, I find it much more flavorful than New Orleans/Urban Creole food.

>>5372598
You shut your dirty non-Catholic tomatoes-in-gumbo mouth.

baloney sandwich with mustard
sliced pineapple
chocolate pudding
beans/carrots/corn

>>5372598
m8 you are aware cajuns were Acadians way back when that brought their own food with them and incorporated that with the food around them in lousiana
m8

>>5372598
>>5372625

You do realize a significant amount of migrants from Acadia weren't even ethnic French?

They were populated by franco-assimilated Basques who migrated to a fully populated region filled with Creoles of color and assimilating Germans, Canarians, and Irish at a ratio of one Acadian to three Creoles/Germans/Canarians.

If they came with there traditions where is the Basque influence food?

There was no tradition of using Sassafras with Acadians, there was no tradition of using Chili with Acadians, there was no tradition of Rice or Okra, no use of Alligator/possum/pork/frog.

Literally every dish called Cajun is Creole and is based on French/African/Portuguese food traditions from the Senegalese coast and Caribbean.

Hell Okra, Rice, Cowpeas are from Africa and yet people call dishes utilizing them "Cajun"/Acadian.

>>5372693
Then those migrants weren't Acadian
To be Acadian you have to be a descendant of the French settlers that originally settled Acadia
Of course there was no tradition of many of those things being used because things like gator and okra weren't available in Acadia. Creole is basically french/spanish/protuguese and cajun is more french/native with some creole thrown in there
Comparing Creole and Cajun is quite similar to comparing American and Canadian cuisine, which are a lot a like but also quite different

>>5372731

You clearly do not know the genealogy or the actual history of Acadian immigrants in Louisiana.


If you did you would know researchers have come to accept that the narrative taught (Cajuns are the descendants of French people kicked out of the Atlantic provinces of Canada) is both flat out simplified and wrong.

Every single dish utilized in Cajun settings existed before they arrive.

Creole cooking like all forms of cookery in the Slave colonies of the Gulf has its origins in enslaved women and the african common law wives of French men who created most of the dishes; utilizing the food ways that existed in the Antilles and Luso-African coastline.

Carl Brasseaux doesn't even have a problem admitting that fact, but most people especially those with no understanding of history can't seem to handle it.


Please do not talk about things you know little about

>>5372752

>>5372598
>>5372625
>>5372693
>>5372731
>>5372752
>>5372757
You're both retarded
Who cares about scummy Louisianians

>>5372777
We have a food culture that rivals any other in the America's and is a legacy to the Pan-Atlantic period from the Age of Discovery to the Present

>>5372805
Sit your pompous creole ass down
Good god, everyone in Louisiana is either a dirty cajun, an "I am holier than thou" creole or a nigger
Your state is shit and you are shit

>start thread about american food
>pages of butthurt imagedumps ensue

never change, /ck/

>>5372805
>We have a food culture that rivals any other
Acadian and slave food?

Have you ever watched A Taste of Louisiana? It might enlighten you about the origins of Louisiana's foodways.

I mean, just look at the episode guide:

http://beta.lpb.org/index.php?/site/programs/a_taste_of_louisiana_with_chef_john_folse/a_taste_of_louisiana_with_chef_john_folse

>>5372831
>>5372840

All foods in the most economically powerful nations in the Americas that were eaten by the wealthy and middle class were created by the black cooks and chefs.

It represents the confluence of power, wealth, prestige, and influence Black, White and Indigenous all had


& "Cajuns" had nothing to do with it.

>>5372847
I read academic papers not tourist driven programming continually feeding stupid Americans a false sense of Louisiana Creole culture or history.

>>5369244
>McDonalds forces its cock straight in there

>t-the big evil american corporation is FORCING people to buy their burgers!! Help me, your majesty!!

>>5369260
is this you also? Too fucking lazy to google "biggest fast food chain"? Even though you're making the (completely fucking wrong) claim that you already know who it is?

Please tell me what shithole euro country you're from so I can determine how well you fit the stereotype

>>5372855

holy shit could you possibly sound any more pseudointellectual?

You sound like one of those kids who ends up dropping out their 2nd year of college because their professors "just don't recognize their brilliance" and expect them to do the same work as everyone else

>>5372854
>>5372855
Confirmed for pompous pseudo intellectual creole

new england cuisine;

Baked Beans, every one of the new england states has their own variety
Brown Bread, steamed or baked it is a home style favorite
Chowders, Bisque's and Cream soups of endless variety
Salt Pork in everything
Steamed Puddings
American Style Chop Suey/Johnny Marzetti/American Goulash, whatever you want to call it, I'm sure if you have lived in or grew up in NE your mother or someone fed you their family recipe of this
Cheeses, we love sharp cheddar's and goat cheese
Slumps, Grunps, Cobblers and flummeries
Pie, a yankee institution
Pot pies, Sheppard's Pie and Cottage Pie
Boiled dinner and Corned Beef
Potato Everything
Rye and Dark Bread
Cornbread, Johnnycakes, Indian Pudding
Rice Pudding
Fruitcake of the dreaded citron, candied cherry and raisin variety
Chocolate Chip Cookies
Pickles of every type, we love salted foods
Smoked Fish, Bloaters, herring, Sardines, Anchovies
Lobster, Shrimp, Crab, Clams, Oysters, Mussels best shellfish in mainland america
Fresh Fish right from the boat very cheap and high quality
Horseradish
Pot Roasts
Apple cider, Apple Sauce, Apple Dumpling, Apple everything

>>5372858
>>5372860

Imagine if every single thing about your country/culture that people know about - every single thing - was created in a thirty year period to feed the tourist industry?

If everytime you mentioned your ethnicity and culture the same rude/wrong assumptions came up?

If you or anyone in your community had no control or power over this false narrative?

Essentially you have to cast off the bullshit and focus on what is real; call me a pseudo-intellectual I just don't need any douchebag wanting a dollar pimp out my culture and call it "the real Louisiana"

>>5372881
dude, he's a troll

>>5372911
Oh, well yeah. I just get very serious when it comes to Francophone Louisiana.

I am not trying to be a snob, there is just literally all disinformation with only a sliver of truth that you really have to dig for.

>>5372920
happens to all of us

also I love you guesses chicken fricassee and okra soups

>>5372881
>>5372855
>>5372854
curious if you've actually spoken to a cajun about this

>>5372952
Well, most People I have meet who call themselves Cajun are not the most...academically minded people in the world.

They are sweet and they are aware that NOBODY called themselves a Cajun Pre-1960's (it was a major insult Americans used to mean poor white French speaking trash since the 1840's) but other than that they believe that anything outside of New Orleans that is French is Cajun even Zydeco.

Its not their fault, most were illiterate until after WWII and never knew their history; they as poor white monolingual French speaking Creoles (because that is what they are) were treated almost as badly as blacks and native Americans and so when people and business men told them "their history" they had some ability to be proud but not knowing that like the oil that was being taken literally from underneath them, their backwater home cultures and "essence would be sold off too.

>>5372969
So you haven't

>>5372969
Who the fuck are you talking to? There's loads of people who work at the university in Lafayette or work for CODOFIL who are all about Cajun history.

>>5372969
Same could be said for the Irish, and a bunch of other groups. Still doesn't imply a connection to a lack of cultural/historical accomplishment. Cajuns were treated like shit, but they still did shit that has lived on until today, and I'm sure there's plenty to be proud of.

>>5372977
No I have, they get confused; I think its harder for people to understand CODOFIL and the creation of an ethnic identity

>>5372980
That is exactly what I am talking about; James R. Domengeaux and the rest of them were rich assimilated Creoles who through their people under the bus.

Carl Bresseaux the Grandfather of "Cajun" History has and continues to repeatedly denounce the misinformation created by the Tourist industry and local community governments.

>>5373011
No; entirely different history especially in Louisiana.

The Irish being English speakers were given better opportunities as working class enforcers of Anglo oppression (police) in the cities where as poor rural Creoles of all color were left to their own devices and derided as being lazy yeoman.

>>5373035
Is english your first language?

>>5373042
>in the cities

The Irish were ACCENTED speakers of English, I bet you could barely understand an Irish person today much less way back then especially if they came from some rural community. Sure, some were police many more were probably cheap labor for the mines and factories.

Maybe the Creoles should have settled in a big fucking city, then they could have been closer to institutions of power. Instead, they probably took the easier way and went with a location which they could continue their agricultural traditions. Probably why they weren't completely assimilated unlike the Irish, and still have some semblance of a unique culture and identity today.

>>5373058
Erm, yeah but its heavily influenced by Creole. I speak Louisiana English I guess :-P

>>5373066
You literally have no clue or context what you're talking about dude; look up New Orleans history.

A good third of the white population was Irish and literally 90% of the police force was Irish; they also caused a massive race riot because the Irish immigrants didn't like completing with the native Creoles of Color and the Americans did nothing to stop them because the Irish were above the francophone population.

Everywhere was creole, then the Americans came and then the Irish followed them into NOLA.

>>5373066
Like seriously have you HEARD a NOLA accent?

Yat sounds exactly like a Boston accent; extremely Irish and most natives speak it regardless of race. Irish pretty much took over many parts of the city and the Americans allowed it.

>>5362153

hey don't knock the bread bowl, sausage marinara was fucking GOAT

>>5373164

What immigrant group did like competing with other Immigrant groups? You're not saying anything distinctive that didn't happen to any other group. I'm sure the English rioted against the Irish, the Irish rioted against the Italians, the Italians rioted against the Jews, and so fucking on. What did you expect the Irish to do, somehow become a population of Gandhies and welcome the Creoles with open arms as united brothers in oppression?

You mean the local authorities, not "the Americans". Where were they when New Orleans had one of the largest lynchings in U.S. history against Italian immigrants?

I never denied Irish immigrants were never given positions of power, but were the majority of Irish immigrants police officers? Nope. Every group gets shit on and gets a piece, it probably had more to do with the Irish settling closer to the large cities and Cajuns/Creoles settling in rural communities.

>>5373164
>Significant emigration from Ireland to the United States occurred during the period 1810 - 1850, with a particularly large wave to New Orleans during the decade of the 1830s. The point of debarkation was Adele Street, where many immigrants, penniless, took up residence in simple cottages, providing the beginnings of today's shotgun houses.[7] These Irish immigrants arrived primarily to dig the New Basin Canal,[6] and were generally regarded as expendable labor.[7]

Would you look at that, I guess being in the police force back then was like being a mexican day.

>>5373236
You are acting like some White Savior from /pol/ who constantly tries to show how to Irish are the most downtrodden group.

I was stating the Irish had a leg up over Francophones because the Americans who took over NOLA and Louisiana perceived them as closer to Anglo Americans than the Creole masses of all color.

Like you can bitch and complain but that is fact and the history books show it; the majority of the Police force was Irish and NOLA had the largest Irish population in the whole South.

Again stop talking about things you know nothing about; a scan of google results on the first two pages won't prove anything

>>5373257
>You are acting like some White Savior from /pol/ who constantly tries to show how to Irish are the most downtrodden group.

Because I disagree with you, I'm from /pol/....
I never made the point, the Irish had it the worst. I simply pointed out that pretty much everyone had it bad, and there's really no use playing the oppression olympics.

>I was stating the Irish had a leg up over Francophones because the Americans who took over NOLA and Louisiana perceived them as closer to Anglo Americans than the Creole masses of all color.

You did an absolutely wonderful job stating it over and over again, maybe you could provide some proof?

>Like you can bitch and complain but that is fact and the history books show it; the majority of the Police force was Irish and NOLA had the largest Irish population in the whole South.

Seems like the majority of the cheap labor force was Irish as well. You're not making a point at all, and you haven't even given a shred of evidence to prove that the majority of cops were Irish.

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