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Hey /ck/, I request assistance.

I grew up poor and with overweight parents, despite being underweight myself. Throughout my entire life I have lived only in America and eaten mostly at fast food chains. The stuff we get is cheap and/or shitty food bought from the store, like ramen and doritos. I have never been to foreign restaurants really and lack a lot of culture and have yet to try a vast array of food. (I mean, unless you call Panda Express something foreign..) I'm 18 now and still somehow in good shape however the food situation hasn't changed at all and I still live with my family.

Now, I managed to obtain myself a qtpi internet bf whom I'm meeting up with soon and I'd like to cook for him. The trick is his mother (and her family) is from Spain and his father (and father's family) is from Italy. They all cook a lot there and every night they have homemade family meals. For his entire 20 years, almost every day he has eaten at a dinner table..in New Jersey..with homemade meals made from his family. He casually stated on Skype the other day that he went to a fast food place for the first time in years with a friend and almost puked due to how gross it was. A cheeseburger. Gross? Urgh. (I've eaten fast food twice this week) (cont.)

>tl;dr S-so, good food for boyfriends thread?

>> No.5349742
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>>5349731
2/2

I know I can't compare ever with his family's cooking and I'm not trying to, I just want to be a good girlfriend and make him meals that remind him of home or that he at least likes when he visits. He's really picky about food and with good reason. Plus, his culturally enriched background of food and the fact that he's in the Jersey outskirts of NYC means he's had access to all kinds of food.

>inb4 pizza suggestions
not even fucking going there

Please help me, I've never been to an Italian food restaurant in my life (I told him Olive Garden and he laughed for like three minutes at me and said no) and I hate spicy/hot food so I truly have no clue what type of food sounds 'appealing'. I k-kind of can make fettuccine alfredo (boxed noodles and canned alfredo ofc) but I know it's sub par, and that's all I know how to make (besides mac and cheese.)

pls help.

>> No.5349756

>>5349731
obviously dont try to cook spanish or italian

also dont offer to cook for somebody if you cant cook which from your story sounds like you cant. its a lie if you cant cook say so dont pretend or your relationship wont last though he cant be much of a catch if he is your "bf" without even meeting you IRL

>> No.5349771

Here's what you do, OP.

Put some oil in the bottom of a pot, heat that shit up. Put some pork chops in the hot oil and just sear the outside. Pour 2 cans of cream of mushroom soup in the pot and one can worth of milk, get to a boil, then simmer with the lid on the pot. In about 30 minutes, you will have tender pork chops and passable gravy for mashed potatoes or rice. I recommend not telling him how you did this. It tastes good, but is hardly impressive.

Also, you should call the cops because any dude from the internet you invite into your home for a first meeting is a serial killer

>> No.5349784

>>5349731
just ask his mum to teach you her style of cooking

>> No.5349797

>>5349756
Yeah I don't plan on it, haha. And he knows everything about me including the fact I eat poorly and don't cook and he says it's absolutely fine but I still want to at least attempt it for him, I like him a lot.

>>5349771
Wh-what kind of oil should I use? Vegetable or..? And obviously I need to put the soup/milk in a different pot r-right, like a sauce pan? And is there anything else I should add to the pork chops? How do I know when they're done?

(And lel I'll keep your advice in mind but I'm friends with his family and we skype all the time, I know he's not a serial killer haha)

I found this and it looked kind of cool, I watch a lot of cooking shows and I like Ramsay since he seems like a no-bullshit kind of guy and was thinking I should try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LzLqmfiOVU

Thing is, I don't like cooking much. It's always been a bit harder for me because there are no 'exact' measurements like you're expected to know whether to use a bit more or a bit less or exactly the amount of some type of thing based on what the food looks like, yknow? At least with baking you know what you gotta do and where you went wrong if it tastes shitty.

>> No.5349822

>>5349771
>>5349797

All in one pot and use olive oil.

Really the trick to cooking well is just practice. The porkchop idea is hardly high cuisine, but it's a good place to start for someone who has never cooked before.

Look up a simple red sauce recipe, learn how to make rice, and become familiar with sautéing things to get you started. Once you've made enough meals to your own liking, you'll see that it's not hard and you'll probably even get ideas for your own recipes.

>> No.5349837

>>5349742
>I k-kind of can make fettuccine alfredo
>Wh-what kind of oil should I use?

0/10. In the off chance you're not a troll and you do need help and you can't cook just buy something and say you did it or don't offer to cook at all. If you can cook don't cook spanish or italian

>> No.5349850

>>5349822
All in one pot? Wouldn't that be gross with a lot of oil...? Like are you supposed to drain it or something? And okay, thanks a lot, I'm subscribing to lots of youtube chefs and watching more cooking shows, buying stuff and looking up recipes and I'm really trying my best, made cordon bleu lasagna and a few other things that turned out well!

>>5349837
>Lying by buying something and saying I did it
lolno way, jose. I'm going to do it on my own, he knows I can't cook but I'm hoping if the food is shit he'll appreciate the gesture and we can go to a restaurant instead.

I'd rather try and fail than never try at all.

And yeah I know pizza, bagels, spanish & italian food: off limits.

>> No.5349857

>>5349850

then why are you cooking at all? I know why you're doing it but if you can't and you know it's going to be shit you shouldn't waste food. Tell you "boyfriend" to help you cook or something, that's the first thing I would have done, or just try to make a good impression by any other way

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>>5349850
>made cordon bleu lasagna

Ah, I see. It was a simple lampoon

>> No.5349863

>>5349857
>Can't do something
>Why are you even trying
lel, to be a more well rounded person of course! Everyone starts somewhere and I'm still young so why not just learn how to cook? Geez. I'm going to be a wife and mother some day, I need to learn how to cook and it's better to start now than never.

>having to convince /ck/ why I should learn to cook
>2014

>> No.5349866

>>5349860
Couldn't get it so the cheese and ham wouldn't just goop out so I found an obscure lasagna recipe and it just kinda worked. Ham, chicken, cream cheese, swiss cheese, some other stuff in there + lasagna topped off with bread crumbs and some other stuff (I don't have it memorised haha) it's good! Just doesn't look as nice.

>> No.5349875

You have start cooking pretty much every day. Developing knife skills, learning how to control the heat of a pan, developing your palate for taste and seasoning.

Most important, you can't cook without tools and a proper understanding of the full potential of how things should taste. If you want to be a damn good cook, there's no cheat code to winging it.

Start looking up recipes online, anything that you've wanted to try yourself. Find multiple versions of that recipe for the particular dish, and then pick the best one. Follow it exactly, don't substitute anything. Buy the proper tools, pans, thermometers, spices, fats, flours, proteins, salt, sugar, whisks, and so on.

>> No.5349882

>>5349863

you could have started with a small dinner with your "boyfriend" or just for yourself and not his entire family that is full of cooks who are used to eat well? Seriously OP. I don't like to discourage people from learning to cook but you just went full retard. You don't have to listen to a stranger on the interwebs but you'll have a hard time cooking for a ton of people if you've never cooked anything but cheeseburgers. You should have started small to make sure you can make something good later on.

>> No.5349884

>>5349875
To follow up, so you don't thing I just posted a bunch of vague shit.

Go to a good youtube channel, something interactive where you can watch exactly how they execute a dish. Like:

http://www.youtube.com/user/foodwishes/videos

Pick any dish that looks great to you, and then try your hand at cooking it. There's always going to be an ingredient guide link so don't forgot to go there to get the exact ingredient measurements.

So, the formula is this
1) find a dish you want to cook
2) do research about the dish
3) buy all the ingredients
4) spend the day cooking it
5) repeat
6) eventually become a great cook

>> No.5349893

>>5349797
>wh-what
>r-right
Don't stutter in text.
It's not cute, nor does it convince people that you're a grill online.
Save it for your WoW ERP.

>> No.5349902

Valencian paella[edit]
Wikibooks Cookbook has a recipe/module on
Paella Valenciana


Valencian paella
This recipe is standardized[20][21][22][23] because Valencians consider it traditional and very much part of their culture. Rice in Valencian paella is never braised in oil, as pilaf, though the paella made further southwest of Valencia often is.

Heat oil in a paellera.
Sauté meat after seasoning with salt.
Add green vegetables and sauté until soft.
Add garlic (optional), grated tomatoes, beans and sauté.
Add paprika and sauté.
Add water, saffron (and/or food coloring), snails and rosemary.
Boil to make broth and allow it to reduce by half.
Add rice and simmer until rice is cooked.
Garnish with more fresh rosemary.

>> No.5349907

you don't have to do snails obviously

>> No.5349936

>>5349893
I think this person is a raging autist, or just a memespouting retard

>> No.5349951

>>5349936

or just a fucking idiot

>> No.5349959
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5349959

it's not gonna work out between you two. enjoy giving him free sex, though

>> No.5349969

>>5349959
what a horrible picture

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>>5349882
Anon pls
I am only cooking for him when he visits me from 43 hours away. I am not cooking for his family, nor am I cooking for anyone but us. Goober. I was just giving you our backgrounds s-so y'all would see what I'm up against.

>>5349875
>>5349884
Thank you so, SO much for all of this! I've subscribed to that channel and am planning on going shopping when I get paid.

>>5349902
>>5349907
>snails
I almost vomited in my mouth. I'll look for variations of it, thank you. Pic related actually made me hungry.

>>5349936
>>5349893
/r9k/ is my homeboard, apologies.

>> No.5350039

you're fucked lol

better make up for your inability to cook with your pussy

>> No.5350997

>>5349850
No;the oil is fine. though you don't want to use much. think like two tablespoons.

I definitely agree with the person who posted the youtube channel link,and if you're really not too familiar with cooking,make sure to use the video as a bit of a guide for how things look when they are done.

generally speaking;one pan/pot things are probably where you want to pay attention first. they're generally much simpler with more wiggle room when it comes to cooking them.

a few years back I was in basically the same boat as you;and did well with thai fish in a bag as something to do. this recipe is probably better then the one I used.

Thai Fish in a Bag:

200ml coconut milk (you can get reduced fat which I recommend!!)
50ml hot fish stock
1/4 tbsp red thai curry sauce (green also works)
1 carrot, chopped
1 yellow pepper, thinly sliced
75g broccoli, chopped into small florets
2 fillets of fish (Good Housekeeping suggests salmon, but cod/haddock/coley also works)
1.25cm ginger, grated
baking parchment
string without any coating on

1. Put the oven on 180 degrees Celsius [≈ kindling range of paper] (160 in a fan oven, not sure of gas mark)

2. Fry the curry paste and ginger in a pan for 1 minute. Add the coconut milk (shake it first as it separates!) and fish stock, and stir until it is all mixed in together. Season it with salt and pepper, then pour into a jug and set aside.

3. Place the baking parchment into two deep bowls and push down. Add half of the vegetables to each, then divide the fish fillet into four pieces and lay on top. Pour half of the liquid over each, then tie up the parchment leaving a space of 2cm above the fish and veg.

4. Place in a baking tray (one with high edges in case **** happens!) and cook for 15-20 minutes. Serve with rice, a slice of lime and some coriander.

>> No.5351005

>>5349893
Enterprise Resource Planning? In WoW? Holy shit that game has everything.

>> No.5351086
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>>5350029
> he visits me from 43 hours away
serve him some tasty pussy that is what he wants nothing more nothing less sure a nice light ceviche would be nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxZS0dKBDWc

what would be nicer is some mean blowjobs a freak in the bed all while being classy in public.

I hope you got your hair and nails done along with a brazilian wax all them things that make you feel extra sexy. PUT OUT dont tease blue balls are not cool absolutely not put out before someone else or be a dumb bitch left alone wondering why he never visited again

XDDDD travel 43 hours to get his dick wet the guy sounds pathetic

>> No.5351097

Ask him if he's in Bergen County and if he wants to come to Tenafly to chill with me. Tell him we can go play Lazertag at the Palisades Mall.

>> No.5351120

>>5349731
Don't dismiss pizza, homemade is not too difficult and if you do it right it's as good or better than any pizza you've ever had out I assure you. It's just about the quality of the dough and the topping ingredients. Use some real mozzarella di bufala, black olives and quality salami and you're in superior-tier territory.

But anyway, steak, baked potatoes (microwave will help with those) and 2 veg sound like something you could handle?

If you want to go simple yet delicious there are a number of *great* stews you could do, which are the very epitome of simple. A stew would technically include chilli if it's something you think he might enjoy.

>> No.5351146

>>5349731
I learned a lot on here:
http://www.cookingforengineers.com/

It was rather dessert heavy when I started using it, but it looks like they've got more entrees now. I like how the authors explain each step, why its done the way it is, and have many good photos. Read through many to just see how things are done, and try one out that looks tasty. I love the diagrammatic summaries of the recipes at the bottom of each one, they eliminate the "gotchas" many recipes have, where you get to a point and realize that there was something you should have started hours ago that they didn't bother to mention till now.

Don't fuss too much with exact measurements and times, unless it is baking. Don't start with baking, though, because it will be frustrating. Taste things often, taste and smell the individual ingredients you add (things like spices, obviously don't lick raw chicken or anything).

If the style of the cookingforengineers site appeals, get the book Sauces by James Peterson. It has some recipes, mostly in the French/continental style of cooking, but more importantly, it goes through each ingredient, spice, oil, etc. and tells you how they act, the dos and don'ts.

If he's open to teaching you to cook, then try to be open to the experience. I had a gf in this situation, I knew a lot, she did not. She was really insecure about it though, and took advice or suggestions as personal attacks. If he's been cooking things all his life, he's not going to have the recipe in his mind like a cookbook (e.g. 1tsp this, 1c that). He'll know what things should look, feel, or smell like. Let him show you, ask why he does things the way he does. It could be a good learning experience.

Also stop buying canned alfredo sauce. It's seriously just butter, cream, and cheese that you mix with the hot noodles when they're done cooking.

>> No.5351161

Why don't you cook TOGETHER? it's a fun activity to do with someone and maybe he can teach you a thing or two.

>> No.5351169

Be honest and tell him your food background. Tell him that you want to learn new foods and ask him to help you explore "the amazing food I've been missing all my life."

There, now you won't have to worry about lying, stroked his ego, gave him a mission and a chance for him to share something personal and important to him.

>> No.5351171

>>5351161
>men wanting to help their gfs cook

Toplel

>> No.5351197

>>5351171
My SO would do this as a pretext to getting behind me and having sex in the kitchen. "Cooking together" had a special context in our household.

>> No.5351208

>>5351171
Almost every guy I've dated loved cooking and we shared the time in the kitchen, and had fun. Depends on who you're after I suppose.

>> No.5351217

>>5351197
>>5351208
I wish I was as lucky as you ladies and not dating a manchild who doesn't know how to make grilled cheese. :(. Is there a /ck/ related dating site I could use?

>> No.5351226

>>5351217
Make a post here, every other board seems to have hook up threads, hurr

>> No.5351236

>>5349731
Nigga ! I ain't tryin ta read all that shit

>> No.5351244

>>5351226
>looking for man who can cook and loves food especially craft beer and blowtorches steaks with Gmo free ketchup

>> No.5351292

I do all the cooking, my Wife does all the baking, we both help with dishes. Kitchen time with your SO is pretty fucking excellent. Granted it both helps we had independent passions for cooking before we met, but she taught me the mysteries of baking, and I taught her how to make sauces from scratch. Now we've got a copy of "The Silver Spoon" that weighs about 10lbs and we're slowly working our way through it together.

We both grew up watching our fathers do the majority of the cooking (my mother passed and hers, although a sweet as pie southern woman, cannot make ramen without scorching), and we both grew up with home cooking and the whole family around the table, so coming from that we viewed cooking as a pretty special time for family and bonding, and it really has been a huge part of our relationship.

Advice portion: start slow, a simple chicken, veg, starch meal such as Lemon Pepper Chicken with Green Beans and homemade mashed potatoes is simple, nearly impossible to ruin, healthful, and a great intro to cookery, get a chefs knife and learn how to dice and onion or chop parsley using the internet. Start slow and simple, and work your way up as your skillset builds. Good luck! And Fast-Food is a good thing every so often, but try to stay away from it! Once you figure out you can make a delicious, healthy meal for cheaper than getting a pizza or a burger, you'll never look back.

>> No.5351320

>>5351244
>and blowtorches steaks

What is this devil worship>

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>>5351236

>> No.5352760

>>5349742
Your boyfriend sounds like he is a bit of an elitist prick when it comes to this. I'd not play into his stereotypes. You'll never live up to his mother anyway.

>> No.5352761

>>5349959
frightening