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what about them?

Ethically delicious.

>>5279884
Should they have a longer life before consumption?

Also, is goat meat from a young goat too?

>>5279887
No. What's dead is dead.

>>5279882
If they weren't cute no one would care.

advantages: less risk of antibiotics and other nasty shit because we import our lamb from Shitpostistan (aka Australia) and New Zealand (aka Little Australia)

cons: tastes like a cheap sweater, fucking expensive

personally I'll go for local grass fed antibiotic-free hormone-free beef. costs the same as lamb and tastes way better.

>>5279887
>Should they have a longer life before consumption?
Then they'd be tough and take forever to cook.

>>5279908
>If they weren't ________ no one would care.
This applies to many things.

>>5279887
>Should they have a longer life before consumption?
No, they are bred specifically for eating.

>Also, is goat meat from a young goat too?
It can be. Young goat (cabrito) can be cooked similar to lamb since it's more tender. Older goat, like older sheep/mutton, is tougher and better suited for braising/stewing.

>>5279948
What does that mean? Bred specifically for eating? They still are living creatures, and i assume, they live in a field for a period of time.

>>5279962
People breed animals to eat them. They were domesticated and selectively bred to be docile and maximize yields. Yes they live in a field, most pasture animals do. They are born, they eat grass and grain for a while, then are slaughtered and eaten. That's how it works.

If that bothers you, then go ahead and be vegetarian or vegan. If not, then go ahead and eat meat.

>>5279962
do you not know what domestication is
we didn't start farming animals because it was funny

>>5279962

i hate people bitching about lamb and veal. they are older than pigs or chickens when they are killed and pigs are super intelligent

and foie gras pisses me off to. it doesnt hurt the bird, its like opening your throat to chug a beer

if you want something to really bitch about there is a small bird that they put in a dark box because in the absence of light it starts gorging itself then after its sufficiently fattened they take it out and literally drown it by pouring brandy down its throat. no that i give a fuck about that either

or what about the chinese that skin dogs and throw them in boiling water alive. now thats cruel.

why dont people talk about this shit instead of a fucking lamb.

>>5280231
>and foie gras pisses me off to. it doesnt hurt the bird, its like opening your throat to chug a beer
>if you want something to really bitch about there is a small bird that they put in a dark box because in the absence of light it starts gorging itself then after its sufficiently fattened they take it out and literally drown it by pouring brandy down its throat
what in the fuck

lamb is delicious but you don't get enough meat and it's expensive as shit, so I'll preffer mutton. Same for veal and beef, I really wish it didn't cost so much.

>>5280244
Ortolan.

Look it up

check out

Huo Jia Lu - live donkey

Feng Gan Ji - (wind dried chicken) a chicken cut open alive intestines removed stuffed with spices and shit sewed up and hung to dry

Dojo Tofu - boil water. insert block of tofu add live baby eels. they dont wanna die so they burrow into the tofu...then die. serve warm

Ikizukuri - sushi chef grabs fish from take (you can pick if you want) cut up infront of you reassemble and serves still twitching

the last two actually sound bretty gud

>>5279882
To me all livestock in an industrialized society has murky at best ethics attached to it. Don't see that much between slaughtering baby animals vs the miserable life of say, an egg laying hen. It's all stuff that as an omnivore I prefer not to think about.

So I balance it out by enjoying the fuck out of lamb (and other animal products) when I have them. To mitigate the ethical murkiness I only have them once a week or so. Because if I'm not going to choose the "do no harm" ethic I'll go with "do little harm".

Besides, lamb is so rich it's not an everyday food.

>>5279922
>local grass fed antibiotic-free hormone-free beef
meinneiger.jpg

Kiwi here. My uncle manages a pretty big Sheep and Beef farm.
There's nothing like Roast Lamb that you witnessed the shooting and preparation of only 6 hours earlier..
I have to say that Lamb Kebabs/Iskender and Indian Lamb Curries are really fucking good and I actually prefer the meat incorporated with other ingredients to even some of the best roast or fried w/ vege type dishes. Not a huge fan of plain meat in general comparatively.

>>5279922
If you can find an organic butcher, like here we have http://www.thehealthybutcher.com/about_us.html

the lamb I buy (when I buy it) is from a farm 2 hours away.

>>5279989
>Nomadic tribes having to stop what they're doing and settle down because making these dumb shit animals fuck around in a little fenced off space is funny as fuck.

>>5279882
They taste great.

If the land they're being farmed on wasn't a farm then it would be wild land.

Wild land is filled to the brim with animal death and suffering.

Therefore by farming animals, as long as they're not treated worse than wild animals are treated by nature, you're not creating any extra animal suffering.

Sheep are reared in big fields and hillsides with lots of space. They are protected from predators, are provided with all the food they need, and are given a quick death.

Therefore there is nothing ethically wrong with eating lamb or mutton.

>>5280678
that doesn't follow you fucking idiot

>>5280682
Why not?

>>5280686
because being 'ethically correct' has nothing to do with being on par, or better than nature
especially not in action alone with complete disregard for reasons, intelligence and history
see: murder, theft, basically every fucking legal crime, numerous faux pas, cultural differences, etc
and you can't go around throwing vague terms like that without defining them if you're going to attempt a logical argument

>>5280678
So if I adopt a bunch of children from some war torn country, Give them a massive play area and all the food/drink they want, then kill them quickly and eat them when they reach 10, is that ethical? (obv it's illegal but that's not what I'm asking)

>>5280697
It is when you consider the alternatives: either you farm the land, or paved it over or something, or leave it wild. If doing something to the area decreases the amount of animal suffering in it then you can't really say that it's cruel to do it.

>>5280702
The rules are different when it comes to humans.

Lamb is amazing. Can't believe Americans eat so little of it. Goat too but that's barely eaten in the West. Beef is great but there should be a bigger variety of meat we regularly consume.

>>5280709
but what constitutes animal suffering
and is 'natural' suffering the same as human-created suffering
and how do we measure it
and are those the 'only' alternatives? Are roads and farms the only things that stop it from being 'wild'?
Of course, then you'd have to define what 'wild' is
and since when does less cruel = not cruel. a >= b does not usually mean b = c. (but it can)

it
does
not
follow
Non
sequitur

>>5279882
taste good have at it.

>>5280729
it's funny watching preteens pretend they are college freshmen

>>5280753
Why would anyone want to pretend to be a college freshmen?

>>5280757
Because kids are stupid.

Ethics of eating lamb:

1) Am I interested in eating lamb?

The end.

I am not an ethical person. Pic related is my spirit animal, I do what is in my best interest and according to my own principles and moral code (which is very different from most).

>>5279882
delicious

>>5280271
non-whites get a free pass for this kind of shit from whiny western leftists because contrary to what they would have you believe, they're actually extremely racist

white people to them are supposed to have evolved past this kind of barbaric behavior, but it's ok for non-whites to do it because that's just their culture

>>5281257
>trying to start this shit on a food board

>>>/b/

>>5281257
Do not worry, most Asians wish to be white and will do anything to appease you. They will come on board soon enough. Give them time.

>>5281261
it was an appropriate comment for the topic of the thread

>>5279922

maximum fucking pleb

a good lamb gravy is like nothing else

One leg at a time.

With a critter that cute, you can't eat 'em all at once.

Tastes great, less bleating.