/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>5250680
LA only banned it for public spaces, which is nice.
Also, are you just now learning commiefornia is a shit state?

>>5250680

Those are quite the first world problems you have there.

Not to mention no froie gras.
Fucking nanny state.
If we complain here we get "muh freedoms" routine from the government loving euros.

If Americans are so unhappy with how their government is treating their constitution and their liberty, why do they keep reelecting governments who LITERALLY just do that?

>>5250711
Because democrats are fucking stupid as shit.

>>5250711
We don't actually have control over these things. Even if we all voted for someone, there are higher official that can say "nope, you're wrong. we're going to give it to the other guy."

>>5250711
>implying I vote

>>5250682
>they only raped me with a 9" dildo this time, that is nice.

I'm sure they'll get around to banning 6th hand smoke soon (that's where someone calls you on the phone while smoking)

>>5250713
>implying republicans are better

>>5250711

Doesn't matter who you vote for in America, the people are never in charge anyway.

e-cigs are fucking terrible

And I do not trust some guy who 'washed his hands' and some places already require you to use gloves

>>5250713
becuase of people like this mutant doge, people this fucking retarded that think party lines matter at all and their line would "fix everything wrong with america if it werent for them libtards/conservadicks"

america is too big doge, we can't be involved in most of this shit because its all way too high a level, the only way america is going to change anything is if america collapses or revolution forces the government to return to a strict antifederal system. The broken aesop that lead to the birth of federalism in america is bullshit now, We have telephones sattleite, railcars, planes, and everything we need to coordinate armies to stamp down on problems. we don't need a central government for that protection any more, and its the only reason we ever allowed it to get so powerful, all we can really hope for is another secession at this point.

>>5250718
In a perfect world they'd ban smoking period.

>>5250711
>If Americans are so unhappy with how their government is treating their constitution and their liberty, why do they keep reelecting governments who LITERALLY just do that?

Because unfortunately we have a large majority of idiots in this country who believe in fairy tale campaign promises.

>MUH HOPE
>MUH CHANGE
>MUH FREE HEALTHCARE

I mean we fucking elected a junior senator with practically no qualified experience just because he was black and spoke well from a teleprompter. I didn't like GW but at least he governed a major state before being elected.

Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize that half of the country is actually stupider than that. Scary.

>>5250725
With this logic you can move to some european socialist utopia

>>5250717

But, uh... you voted for your state's electors, didn't you?

>>5250731

I don't think you read anon's post...

Also, pic related.

>>5250719
>imply california isnt a completely onesided state.

>>5250728

yeah because second hand smoking from ecigs is so harmful, right?

oh wait it's not at all

I don't even smoke

>>5250742
And we can thank Paco, Juanita, Carlito, and the other 70% of California that votes completely for one party (coincidentally, the party that promises them welfare, education, healthcare, food stamps, and NOT kicking them back to their shithole third world country)

>>5250730
>Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize that half of the country is actually stupider than that. Scary.
your average person does not give a shit about politics. about a quarter of the US population is under 18, so only about half of those that can vote ended up voting in 2008. combine that with the fact that it's largely people that have very polarized political views, and those that don't do shit all day that end up voting in droves, so you get the results that we got in 2008 and 2012. if only people holding a full time job could vote, and being a stay at home mom doesn't count, then the election results would look a hell of a lot different.

>>5250680
can someone explain to me why they are banning e-cigs? there isn't any second hand smoke and for the most part you can't even tell unless you see someone do it, as it doesn't really smell like anything?

>>5250680

Wait, so did LA ban smoking in public too? Tobacco/pot?

>>5250680

Also how much are Marb reds there?

>>5250756
because MUH FEELINGS

>>5250754
>if only people holding a full time job could vote, and being a stay at home mom doesn't count, then the election results would look a hell of a lot different.

Fuck it, I think we should take it back to only landowners can vote. Or maybe the 50% that actually pay income taxes. I make just enough to get by but because I'm self-employed I get to cough up 20-25% of my income. fuck

>>5250762

> self employed
> reporting income

Pick one.

>>5250736
Yes, he's some anarchist trying to ruin shit

>>5250748
I wasn't talking about ecigs.

>>5250766
>has never had an audit

>>5250766
>gee mr. irs man, i haven't got a clue where all these regular deposits into my account came from! it surely is not from a job, tell ya wut.

trying buying anything other than trinkets with cash and see how far you get. if you attempt to buy something for over $10k that isn't from an individual you'll get government employees knocking on your door. if you want to buy something with credit you need a history of steady income, which means regular deposits into a bank account.

>>5250760
Around 4 bucks. Give or take 30 cents

>>5250768
ah yea fair enough

it's stupid that they banned them though

fucking california, I pay so much to live in this shithole

It's bittersweet living here. You have literally everything and anything you could want, but it will cost you all your money and you have to put up with a fuckload of retards.

>>5250756
Actually quite a few vapes and e-cigs put out smells.
And even though it's not a real cig, it's still seen as the same thing. They aren't banning them outright, just banning them in places you shouldn't really smoke.

>>5250784
>literally everything and anything you could want
Except foie gras

>>5250788

I can see how it's kinda rude to blow smoke around but I've sat right next to friends who were using ecigs and only a couple times did I ever smell anything, and it smelled delicious

>>5250784
Except freedoms that can be had on the east coast.
Based South Florida.

>>5250767

anarchist != socialist

>>5250792
I'm in college and my roommate's boyfriend has an ecig. It's nice because sometimes when he's in my room he'll let me use it so that I don't have to go outside to smoke, but then sometimes he smokes it while we're eating and it goes everywhere and grosses me out. It smells nice, but that's also his breath mixed in getting all over my food.

>>5250791
>>5250791
I fucking hate that duck liver garbage but someone telling me I can't eat it buy it or sell it makes me want to blow shit up.

>>5250804

my friends usually turn their heads and blow it in the other direction, I think some of them blow more smoke than others though because theirs have almost none at all but I've seen one guy from uni who blows fucking CLOUDS

>>5250793
>Based South Florida.
Treasure Coast reporting in. Can confirm.

>>5250809

Tallahassee reporting; betterthanu.

>>5250792
some of the shit I've smelt was sickly sweet.

>>5250809
I hate that area, parents moved there. I miss living in broward.

>>5250808
Yeah, he blows out clouds. And he and my roommate both are very slightly sociopathic, so they don't care who they bother with their bullshit.

>>5250815
>Tallahassee reporting; betterthanu.

What shitty traffic and skanky sorority sluts? Naw thanks bruv.

>>5250818
I like it because I go back and forth from Orlando area down to Miami area. Right in between. Also nice and quiet so its a good place to relax

>>5250837

What, spics and the elderly? Naw thanks, buddy.

>>5250844
Can we just meet in the middle and laugh at the tourists?

>>5250848

Nope, we don't have any tourists.

>>5250861
that's why I said meet in the middle...as in the middle of the state. fuck man they really need to start upping the english classes at FSU

>>5250861
>south Florida
>no tourists
Palm beach island/county here you're wrong bruv

>>5250877
he's from tally bro

>>5250722

> I don't trust some guy who 'washed his hands'

Well, just wait until that same guy never washes his gloved hands and never changes his gloves.

People have some wacky idea that wearing gloves is somehow cleaner, and it's not. The only time it's cleaner is when you're already using impeccable sanitation practices.

>>5250879

I thought he was the miamian shitskin

>>5250881
shhhh let the normals think their food is somehow being handled better all because of some latex

>>5250748

dude, shut up you fucking childish faggot. if you want to puff on your glade plugin do that shit AT HOME

i dont want to smell like twelve year old hooker every time im on the fucking bus!

fuck you. seriously, how fucking stupid selfish and young can you be?

This is why we need a fucking draft. take you fucking punks and let you smoke real cigs while sand niggers are trying to mortar your position.

THis is bullshit. i hate this world. fuck you.

> mfw a little piece of shit that's never accomplished anything in his fucking life feels entitled to exhale peach bubbles into faces of veterans

And i told you and ill tell you again. If i ever have a problem with one of you android dick suckers, i will TAKE YOUR SHIT AWAY. and i will SMASH IT.

then i will countersue your bullshit destruction of property claim in civil court with a shitload of health hazard bullshit. I'll pretend my lungs dont work anymore and ill fucking win because ill have those Truth faggots on my side. You'll get on the news and even if 70% of people side with you, you'll get death threats and mail bombs from 30% of people.

>yeah because second hand smoking from ecigs is so harmful, right?

>oh wait it's not at all

not until someone sends you a bomb.

OP there's an entire state made up of people who couldn't stand California, why aren't you here yet?

I dislike California's gun laws but thankfully they're progressive in other things like e-cigs and gloves.

>>5250888
Way too mad to be posting right now. Take some time and chill bro.

>>5250680
Anywhere but California and the Deep South.

>>5250888

some butthurt faggot right here needs some ointment

too beta to do anything too lol

>>5250883
this is 4chan, we're all miamian shitskins here.

>>5250888
lol, he mad.

>>5250918
>>5250939
>>5250970

I'm mad

>>5250888
>faces of veterans

oh look, a self-entitled welfare queen. who'd a thunk.

>>5250974
I bet you think of yourself as a clint eastwood type, all hard and everything.

You really aren't bro.

>>5250881

Gloves don't secrete oils and bodily fluids atleast

>>5250998
Unless the people wearing them touch their face scratch their ass then don't change their gloves.

>>5251003

Better to do that with gloves on than without

>>5251010
Yeah, better for it to be on the gloves touching your food than their hands they aren't washing.

>>5251016

It would be on both, and they'd be touching your food anyway. Any way you slice it, gloves are more hygenic. I don't know why you're fighting this

>>5251016
Gloves are more hygienic you idiot

>>5251022
Because it's a waste of time to make them do it.

I don't eat at subway anymore, but at my last job I did because it was convenient. They all wore gloves, but washed their hands between orders. It seemed completely pointless for them to wash their hands between putting on gloves.

This is a feelgood law at best, and an added hassle for cooks to change gloves all the time when it's not actually accomplishing much at all.

>>5250879
ew

>>5251032
>putting on gloves is a hassle

Wow

>>5251024
Not very hygienic when Manuel cuts his hand open while doing knifework, because it's impossible to fucking grip anything while wearing gloves, and then bleeds all over your order.

>>5251032
>confirmed for knowing nothing about hygiene
>confirmed for not knowing what cross-contamination is

Ecigs are idiot libs morning after pill—

The morning after pill is NOT an abortifacient. It lowers the chances of a woman having an abortion because she won't get pregnant in the first place. Prolifers are against it because it's not about saving babies it's about control.

Ecig second hand "smoke," isn't. It's even an affective smoking cessation device for people trying to quit altogether because it's exactly like smoking. You can ween yourself off with lower and lower strength liquids. Antismokers are still against it because it's not about health and public welfare, it's about control.

>>5251038
Changing gloves 30-40 times a day would be a hassle, yes.

>>5251047
I understand cross contamination. What I'm saying is that if these people aren't practicing good hygiene to begin with, adding gloves isn't going to change anything.

>>5250728
I remember as a kid going out to eat with my parents and the waitress would ask if we wanted the smoking or non-smoking section. Like it even mattered, the whole place smelled of smoke anyway. But of course because of my mom we had to sit in the smoking section. It was terrible. Fuck smoking. It should ideally be banned in public too. I hate jogging down the sidewalk and getting a full breath of some moron's smoke who is in front of me.

>>5251055
Yes it does, as it at least creates a barrier between their hands and the food. I work food prep, changing gloves is not a hassle at all.

>>5251212
I remember that, but we always went non-smoking, didn't make a huge difference.

>>5250888

I said I didn't even smoke, boy are you mad

>>5251223
>Yes it does, as it at least creates a barrier between their hands and the food

All that does is mean you have to worry about the cleanliness of the gloves as opposed to hands. Cross-contamination can and will still happen if the person doesn't change their gloves between different tasks. Gloves aren't magically "cleaner" than a person's hands. If a person picks his nose then touches food, or switches between handling raw poultry and veggies that is no different than making the same mistake without gloves. Gloves simply trade one problem for another: handwashing as opposed to changing gloves. And frankly, they'd better still be washing their hands as if your hands are dirty you contaminate the gloves when you pick them up and put them on.

>>5251212
dont go breathing my air, pussy. You're the kind of lazy douche bag that even though youre running wont step 2 steps to the right and insist on running up to me inhaling and give me dirty looks. Are you born assholes? In dallas, texas there is a law prohibiting pretentious runners like you from wearing your sweater around your waste. I think it's just reactionary methods of control to give you faggots a taste of how it feels.

>>5250711
Son, let me tell you about a little thing called the Electoral College

>>5251237

>Gloves aren't magically "cleaner" than a person's hands

Not magically, but biologically. A human is naturally dirty, your hands have substances of their own that even if you wash, it will continue to produce. Gloves are as clean as you can get.

>>5251237
You don't continuously contaminate, what part of "vinyl doesn't produce salt and oils" are you not getting?

Texas.
You are always welcome in Texas, of course as long as you are white & not kike or genderqueer.

It's like I'm not even on /ck/

>>5250888

Thank you for your service.

California’s controversial glove law has riled up chefs and bartenders across the state. And now, it looks like it might not be long for this world.

On Monday, Richard Pan, M.D. — the State Assemblymember who is also the chair of the Health Committee — announced emergency legislation to repeal AB1252 Section 113961, a.k.a. the health code amendment that bans bare-handed contact in restaurants and bars. It’s a big turnaround for the Health Committee, which was the same group that put the law into effect on January 1.

Dr. Pan actually introduced the new legislation prior to the Feb. 21 deadline, and since it’s classified as emergency legislation, it would conceivably take effect before the state’s six-month grace period on enforcing the law expires. So, in essence, it would nullify the law.

Iso Rabins of Forage SF and Josh Miller both started petitions to repeal the law, rallying the chef and bartender communities, respectively; together, they have amassed over 18,000 signatures. The two parties were coordinating strategies when Miller went to meet with Dr. Pan recently. Turns out Pan was one step ahead.

“When Josh went to talk to him, he was all set to repeal the law,” says Rabins. “I think the opposition took him by surprise because the type of bill was supposed to be non-controversial. There was supposed to be nothing in there that anyone would dislike.

“He sees. He’s a doctor,” says Rabins, as he paraphrases some of Pan’s thoughts from earlier today: “Gloves don’t keep people safe. It’s the surface. Gloves can be just as dirty as hands.”

The emergency legislation needs two-thirds majority vote to pass. A date is not yet set for the vote; no opposition in Sacramento has voiced itself to this point. Stay tuned.

http://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/blog/2014/02/24/legislation-introduced-to-repeal-controversial-california-glove-law/

>>5251032
You wash your hands before apply fresh gloves so you don't contaminate the gloves with your skin's microbiota.

I'm in favor of gloves. When you go to Subway they put on new gloves. I like that. I realize they can't go in the back and wash their hands after every sandwich. Gloves solve this problem.

>>5250711
choice is an illusion

the ones that have all the real power only make it seem like the masses could ever have any real control

Here come the /x/ conspiracy theorists...

>>5250680
Stay in your own state; Californians are more cancerous than smoking a cigarette rolled with asbestos and coated in uranium dust.

>>5250888
the trips make it even better

>>5251407
the ending. oh the ending. its so perfect hahaha

>>5251427
literally the best thing ive read on 4chan in months

>>5250888

>>5251283

>You are always welcome in Texas, of course as long as you are white

Shits got as many mexicans as LA does.

>>5251493
>>5251443
>>5251427
>>5251407
>>5251288
>>5251232

yeah you little faggots talk now, but I'll be the one shooting your elected leaders in the face if push comes to shove.

Remember your freedom comes at a price... the price of MY freedom as an all-american god damned human being.

>>5252293
You enjoy talking down to fags on the Internet?

ONLY in a fucking shit place like LA would e-cigs be banned ...... wow water vapor = pollution.... I hope they ban fog next............... fucking liberals my goodness I cant wait until I'm dead and I hope whatever happens after death my mind wont be subjected to such idiocy as shit like this....

>>5252322
>death tax takes everything
>and forces your burial to be green at taxpayer expense

>>5250888
i enjoyed this post

>>5252317

yeah its a nice release.. i know its fruitless, but yet... i do enjoy it, yes. I think as long as you enjoy something and it doesn't hurt anyone else (except fags) then it's a healthy practice.

Cheers!

>>5252326
>>5251493
thanks mate.

I'm drinking this right now

>>5252322
but they are banned in new york and chicago too

i remember seeing some juggalos on the public train with their baby in it's baby cart thing right in front of them and they were smoking their e-vapes or whatever the fuck. I'm glad they're banning these things from public use. Also, alot of these vapes can be used to smoked weed oils too, so that's probably why they're doing this.

also this was hilarious
>>5250888

I find it funny that this law is going into effect when biologically modern humans have existed for 100,000-200,000 years without food prep needing gloves.

Washing hands between working with shit that can cross contaminate solves all these issues ("salts and oils" are a non issue when washing your hands upwards of 30 times a day).

>>5252340
what is the issue with them wearing gloves? why would anyone be against this? I don't get it.

>>5252332

>racer 5
>nice

>>5252343
Because it's total nonsense and doesn't actually stop anything it was intended to stop.

Sure, the surface of the glove might be cleaner than the employees hand right when (s)he puts them on, but if they don't already practice proper food handling safety, the gloves are going to cross contaminate just as much as their hands will.

Also, if the gloves box is reached into by several employees, and their hands aren't clean to begin with, or are wet from when they washed their hands, but didn't use soap, guess what, all those gloves are now not clean anymore.

The idea is nice, I'll give that too you, and that's probably all most people thought about it ("Yeah, gloves sound cleaner than Jezuses hands."), but if it was in an issue in the first place, it's still going to be an issue when you add crappy gloves to the mix.

>>5252345
oh dude its so nice... i wasnt even planning on getting it but it was on sale for $8.99.. so i was like why not, right?

BEST DECISION EVER

I quite like it here in South Carolina
Taxes are low, some of the cheapest gas and cigarette prices in the nation, and the people are nice. Good food too.
Charleston was even voted the most romantic city ON EARTH if you can believe it.

>>5252353
so basically it's just a false sense of comfort? I still don't see the issue here, unless you work at a restaurant and don't want to have to go through this.

>>5250680
>>California law makes everyone wear gloves if they work in a restaurant/bar

HOW IS THAT A BAD THING

>>5252376
>Hi, I work in a restaurant in the kitchen
>Boy these gloves sure are nice
>I could throw these away when I'm done cutting up/moving this raw chicken, but instead I'm going to go back to working with this salad
>Everything is probably fine

Gloves don't magically make these people not cross contaminate.

If they practiced good food safety already the gloves have no point because they keep their hands clean already.

It's just more useless regulation.

>>5250711
The problem is nobody has a coherent political philosophy.

Democrats and Republicans are just the Coke and Pepsi of big government political parties, there's a distinction but not much of a difference and unfortunately you can't really win many national races as anything /but/ a Republican or a Democrat.

They've got different agendas, but they both inherently believe that there's nothing (their) government shouldn't be able to do.

Government has to defend marriage from homosexuals!

Government has to restrict gun ownership!

Government has to crack down on drugs!

Government has to have unlimited power to step on the people the majority don't like because the things they do scare us or make us feel icky!

Damn your rights and damn liberty, too! We're trying to win the next election!

>>5252371
It's a false sense of comfort which actually undermines sanitation.

>>5250888
this image sums up my reaction to this post perfectly

>>5251238
You seem a bit on edge
Maybe you should go have a cigarette
You seem past due

>>5252322
>didn't read the article

>>5252406

The difference is that marriage already was safe from homos until the libtard SJWs came into the picture.

Republicans just want to defend a traditional lifestyle that has worked well since the beginning of history.

Democrats want to implement a new communist utopia that they came up with when they were high last night.

One version works and is proven. The other only sounds like a good idea when you're on drugs.

>>5252337

>Oh fuck, they've found a way to smoke weed so that we won't even notice while in the same room as them
>We've got too ban it! Why won't somebody think of the chilluns?!

>>5252371
>tripfag being retarded

How surprising.

I can't even smoke cigars inside of my local tobacconist in communist Canada. I have to go to fucking Quebec to smoke inside private businesses.

And Quebec sucks.

>>5252881

> worked well since the beginning of history

You're not overly familiar with human history, are you?

Californians moving to other states just bring their draconian 'progressive' policies with them. Not unlike locusts. Stay where you are and suffer what you have made.

>>5251024
>Gloves are more hygienic
No, they're really not.
Think of it this way. Someone without gloves and someone with gloves are going to do three food tasks- say, breaking down a fish, then making a salad, then plating something. Guy with no gloves washes his hands between each step. Guy with gloves wears gloves. Guess which salad and finished plate end up with raw fish smeared on them?

Gloves are only more hygienic if the people wearing them actually change them repeatedly, whenever they would ordinarily just wash their hands. And in my experience not many people change their gloves NEARLY that often. Aside from that, gloves are a pain in the ass since your sense of touch gets diminished to fuck and you lose a lot of grip.

>>5253178
Holy shit so much this.
Californians are just like Muslims. They leave the place they're from because it's terrible, and then they turn the place they go to into the place they came from.

>>5253178
>>5253370
*cough*Colorado*cough*

They are ruining what was once the best state in the union

I'm gonna get a protank mini 2, what battery should I get? Where can I get awesome organic juice?

>>5253424

I have the itaste vv battery with a protank mini, I don't know if it's organic but Ben John's Awesome Sauce "cr3am" flavor tastes like oreos, and fuzion vapor makes a flavor called "unicorn blood" that tastes like some combo of skittles, pixie sticks, and fruit punch. My favorite flavor is from a local store called beyond vape, it's a combo of cataloupe/watermelon/honeydew. They sell it online.

>>5253437
unicorn blood sounds cool.
I just stumbled upon virgin vapor, have you tried any of their stuff before? They look like good stuff.

>>5253424
12V truck battery. Hook it up to your genitals.

>>5253445

yea, I think I remember it being kinda expensive but if that's not an issue for you then that's cool. If you like sweet/fruit stuff then they have a guava flavor that's great (I think it's called white guava but it's been a little while), their watermelon flavors are also good, as is the "plum crazy".

>>5253456
Yeah they're almost twice as much as the juice from MyVaporStore but they sound real good, I think i'm gonna get some samplers. Thanks for the suggestions.
I don't wanna spend too much on a battery though, will a eGo-C twist do me good to start with?

>>5250888
Please dont send me a bomb. Sent this from my e-cig :DDDD

>>5250730
>Obama would have been a good senator for Illinois

>>5252293
You're a real hero and a real human bean.

>>5253462

you can get one of the itastee for about $15 more, that battery is ok but personally I'd pay a little more for a better one

>>5250680
>Steps for OP to be less of a faggot
>1 move away from worst coast
>2 Stop killing yourself slowly and let time do it
>3 go find love and be happy from now on and or buy a 4chan pass and stay with us forever

>>5252376
>cooks keep using their gloves all day
>by night they are brownish and filled with all kind of germs
if you have a bottle of sanitizer and clean your hands every 2 hours i can bet you thats less dangerous than gloves

>>5256076
>paying for 4chan

How incredifuckinglyretarded can you be?

>>5256782
Pretty much this.

Most people get the concept of handwashing, they've been taught it since preschool.
Most people don't get the concept of sanitary gloves. They'll maybe change them every time they take a smoke break, but they don't even think about cross-contamination.