/ck/ - Food & Cooking

It is pizza, fucking deal with it already.

>>5209823
> holding the unpopular opinion on everything ever and ramming it down the throats of the populace every fucking chance he gets
based Scalia

i would think an italian guy would have already known tomato pie has been around for almost a century already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8IKxbOpt0E

>>5209854
>unpopular opinion
Here's a list of people who think "Chicago style pizza" is a pizza: people of Chicago

Here's a list of people who think it's not a pizza: rest of the world

a true hipster, that Scalia guy

>british newspapers now reporting on the latest argument in the ny v chicago pizza debate

the empire has become the colony

pizza is a flat bread based food. deep dish is not flat bread, so it isn't pizza. That doesn't mean it can't be good.

Americans always fuck up dishes and turn them into quasi, ridiculous new products

>>5209889
> Americans
Everyone does

>>5209887
deep dishes are flat bread, they just have a rim to hold more toppings (look at the picture)

The real thing is why the fuck does anyone care that deep dish style is called pizza or not? it doesn't make anything better or worse as a result

>>5209879
I live in chicago. it's basically a super salty tomato pie

This Chicago style pizza is not pizza thread is boring as fuck every time we have it.

>>5209884

We have Chicago pizzas in Britain, but we call them quiches. It's like you say chips, we say crisps, you say fries, we say chips.

>>5209823
I know this must be a huge problem because some people order a pizza and get this huge thing and get upset, but instead of forcing people to rename everything, why don't they create "PIZZA TYPES"

>order pizza
>yes I want the normal pizza type please
>I'll have the DEEP PIE type pizza please

they are both pizza in someones opinion, people just need a better way to distinguish between the two because there is so much confusion and fighting.

if people understand the differences and know how to ask for it, a huge bubble of understanding forms and people can live in peace and harmony with both types of pizza pie thing.

>>5210084
>you say chips, we say crisps, you say fries, we say chips
Then what do you call Pringles?

>>5210428
abomination

>>5210428
shit

>>5210084
>he calls chicago pizza the same thing as a crust with egg filling

gas the brits

>>5210428

Call them Pringles.

>>5210439
>doesn't think they're the same thing
>This is what faggots from Chicago actually believe.

>>5209823

fuck that wop

>>5209823
>tomatoe pie

>>5210406
REPLY TO ME! my idea is excellent!

I'm a Chicagoan and I don't care what the fuck people call it

The only true thing to call it is delicious.

Damn, I'm craving some Malnati's now...

This is the most non-argument ever. People can't call it bad but they still want to try to find some reason to hate something just because other people like it.

>>5209923
>The real thing is why the fuck does anyone care that deep dish style is called pizza or not? it doesn't make anything better or worse as a result

This, so much.

if I put mozzarella and tomato sauce on a baguette, is it a pizza?

>>5211026
Yes.

>>5211026
its not. the pizza is the dough not the toppings

>>5211047
so a flatbread without tomato sauce and cheese is a pizza?

>>5211079
No because a tortilla is a flat bread. Pizza dough is a very specific sort of flat bread similar to piadina.

>>5210446
>eggs = cheese

>>5210689
I fucking hate Lou Malnatis. I have no idea why it represents Chicago pizza.
Giordano's is where it's at. Nancy's is a powerful underdog.

>everyone else gets super anal about any local cuisine and if it's done right
>pizza however is anything as long as it has tomato, cheese and dough
Chicago style is not pizza, you can call it a Philly cheese steak or fucking Tiramisu, it doesn't automatically make it those things.

>>5211033
+1

>>5211047

>>5211079

Isn't pizza just tomato pie to begin with? just with all the extra shit on top?

>based pineapple and ham

>>5211221
Honestly I can see why people don't consider anything else than the Napolitan version pizza.
I'm from Finland and Karelian Hotpot is traditional stew here and the recipe only has the meat, water/stock, carrots and onion. If someone made meat stew like that but added cream and chorizo to the stew, it just wouldn't be Karelian Hotpot anymore no matter what he would say.
And it's the same with other traditional Italian recipes, you don't put cream to carbonara, plain and simple.

>>5210032
>pequidos
>using the word "basic" to describe it

I bet your from joliet

>>5209823
ITT: butthurt "pizza defenders" trying to classify chicago style pizza as anything other than "pizza"

Scalia is from New York. He's pissed off because the only reason that city is worth a damn is because 9/11 happened there and it's the epicenter of "american pride"
bullshit

On the other hand there's Chicago who, despite being pretty segregated, embraces the fact that it's a city of immigrants and is filled with culture which breeds amazing food outside of the Chicago norms. The reason you new yorkers are so mad is because you have no culture. You're the most commercial city in the world. Your cardboard with minimal sauce and cheese is perfect for you betas to snack on while you pretend to be a cultural hub of the world.

>>5211668
>30 minutes north of Philadelphia is suddenly in New York

>>5211700
Moved to Queens when he was 6

>>5211743
True, but is he "from" there, then? If that's the case, I'm "from" Singapore because I moved to Singapore when I was 8.

New York style pizza isn't pizza, it's tomato flat bread.

>>5211668

I normally stay out of these threads, but I just wanted to pop in to say your inferiority complex is astounding.

Having lived in both cities, and a number of others across the nation, I can say with some authority that the Chicago food scene is a bad joke. Unless you're going to the handful of $300pp restaurants that you reflexively recite when you feel your municipal pride threatened, Chicagoans who want to dine out are mostly reduced to eating greasy sports bar garbage accompanied with, if you're lucky, a regionally brewed beer. Your best shot at an Asian cultural epicenter on Argyle Street is the equivalent to a few Asian-influenced blocks in the immediate vicinity of an out of place Asian grocery store in the no-name regions of Long Island or North Jersey.

Your Mexican food is about the only thing that's not a complete joke and if you subtract Rick Bayless then you basically have what any large city full of not-so-well-off migrant Mexicans would have, namely a bunch of unimpressive taquerias of the kind you'd find in Minneapolis, Kansas City, or Indianapolis, except in larger numbers. The pathetic "urban taco" shops you've recently started to set up on the North Side only add insult to injury.

Your once-vibrant European immigrant neighborhoods are as likely to survive the next decade as the Atlantic bluefin tuna, and all that's left to talk about is a wet beef sandwich that sounds like an humorous synonym for rape, and the tomato dish that Scalia correctly described in his speech.

Have some tums. You're probably very familiar with them if you have to eat out in Chicago much.

>>5211784
it's really more like a transfat tortilla

>>5211784
>>5211833
That one autistic Chicago-fag.

>>5211821

Damn bro you got a serious boner for chicago huh. Enjoy the suburbs homie

>>5212171
>there is only Chicago and farms

This is what people from the provinces actually believe.

>>5212186
Well, there's the quad-cities, but that's just a shopping hub for anyone who doesn't feel that Chicago belongs in Illinois. Or you know, any sane human being.

>>5212233

I have no idea what any of that means. The world is a bigger place than you think.

>>5212257
>I have no idea what any of that means. The world is a bigger place than you think.
And your mind might be smaller than you consider.

I don't even live in Illinois. I just think Chicago should be violently ejected from The Union.

Note the first half of Scalia's remark. I don't give a shit whether you call it pizza or not, doesn't change the fact that it's the greatest fucking food that America has produced since our niggers learned how to deep fry chicken.

All you whiny queers can sit there bitching about semantics, but regardless of whether you're wrong or you're right, that doesn't make it any less tasty or any more inaccessible to any of you buttpained faggots. Perhaps in lieu of acceptable pizza places in your snooty coastal faghavens, you could acquire some peanut butter to complement your very apparent excess of jelly.

>>5212303

*accessible, not inaccessible

I truly pity the pathetic bastards who never get to try this miracle concoction. I assume this is why there is so much hate for it, 95% of you have probably never once had a slice.

I've had the misfortune of living outside of Illinois and you can't find Chicago pizza anywhere outside it, not even an hour away in Wisconsin.

>>5212309
You can get a good frozen one from one of these chicago places for like 35$ anywhere in the world mostly.

>>5209823
>Scalia believes that while the Chicago dish is delightful to eat that New York pizza is 'infinitely better' and that Chicago deep dish should really be called 'tomato pie'
Yeah, of course the Jew Yorker will be biased towards their matzos with cheese.

>>5209898
nope. such shit as easy cheese can only be popular among niggers, so it's not present in most of the europe

>>5210428

>mfw americans call mustachio man snack em yum yums "pringles"

>>5211833
so the battle "what's the real pizza" is fought between piece of shit flat pie with plastic cheese on it and a casserolle?

not an actual italian pizza?

>note to self: never order a "pizza" in NY nor Chicago

>>5212303
>implying shitty salty tomato pie is better than barbecue
Nope

>mfw 89% of Americans prefer boxed dinners to home cooking
>inb4 "It's only because of niggers"

>>5212303
Our snooty coastal faghavens with lower taxes, lower crime rates, and better food? OH you're right, we're so jealous of your polluted, nigger-infested shit hole and your meat pie. Agony, agony.

>>5212463

Tried it. The frozen variety doesn't really compare to the real deal. Plus only Lou's does frozen Chicago pies AFAIK.

>>5212573

>meat on a chicago pizza

>>5212556
I don't prefer it to home cooking. If I get it it's because I'm having a party or some shit and I don't want to cook for 10 fucking people.

>>5212556
only in america something as disgusting as burger helper or tv dinner could get popular

>>5212604
When you're done stuffing your fingers in your crack and sampling your own goods, feel free to join us in the real world.

>>5212556
Fuck yes.

>>5212611
did someone shit himself on that?

>>5212625
No, that's some dry-ass lamb shreddings overtop of a pizza and some fried foods. Courtesy of the well-cultured Europe.

>>5212631
>lamb
>europe

pick one

The one on the left is not a burger.

>>5212663
Now 'this' is trolling. I would call the abomination that sogs apart before you can eat it, aka the right, is not a burger,

>>5212665
Why, that style was around before the other one. The one on the left has too much bread and meat to be considered a burger. It's more like a loaf of bread with a cow between it.

>>5212667
Do you have pictures of the first bunned ground steaks made in the late 1800's and their approximate weight? Because I'm thinking shitty horrible refined white buns weren't a thing at the world's fair at the time.

>>5212663

#REKT

>>5212663
this is what you niggers actually believe

>>5212663
Check out this delicious hamburger
Nothing like good burger for lunch

>>5212811
Or check out this bad boy, no burger like horizontal hamburger am I right

Outside of trolling purposes, I can't for the life of me understand why anyone gives a shit about this at all. I see it on multiple boards all the time, it's been going on for years and I just don't get it.

pizza rankings
1. Neapolitan
2. Sicilian
3. Detroit
4. California
5. New York
.
.
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9000. Chicago
9001. Mexican

>>5212611
Nice try Scotland but when you get independence your government plans to immediately ban all deep fried foods. It's a fact.

>>5211144
Giordano's died when the family went bankrupt and had to sell the pizza chain. It is a blackened husk of its former self.

Of course, it was never in the top tier even before the bankruptcy, but now it's mid-tier at best.

Chicago posters seem to be the only ones able to keep up with Australians in the shitposting power rankings.

>>5212851
Chicagoans and New Yorkers are autistic and think the world revolves around them

>my town is home to the worlds fastest pizza maker

Yeah it's Dominos but eh, pretty interesting

>>5209879
im also from chicago
that not a pizza but a tomato pie
and it taste AMAZING
but plz stop call it a pizza !!

Chicago fag here, I love lou Malnati's, I am partial to deep dish spinach and pepperoni pizza well done. Their thin crust pizza pies are pretty good too.

>mfw all these Chicagoans on /ck/

daaa bears

also,

Lou Malnati's>Giordano's>Nancy's>Gino's East>Uno's

>>5212869
>detroit pizza as best in america
Muh nigga. It's the only good thing to come out of that god forsaken pit since the 50's.

>>5212869
The fuck is Detroit pizza? I'm picturing an American cheese/ketchup/fried chicken clusterfuck that can only be purchased with EBT/Food Stamps.

And there's no way in hell California pizza is better than NY. Those tree dwelling left coast bisexuals are definitely high if they think their pineapple kale fagboat pizzas aren't absolute shit.

>>5217710
It's pretty good actually.

I don't understand this assmad about Chicago/NY pizza.
I like both.

>>5212869
pizza rankings
1.miami
2.chi chi''s
3. Chucky Cheese's
4.Tex Mex

>>5217828
Miami for Cubanos not pizza unless you're there and drunk, then anything will do.
NYC for pizza!

>>5212650

Lamb is a West Asian food, and Europe is home to many from the Middle East

>>5211821
9000/10

>scalia
>daily fail

Hahahahahahahahahaa Chicagofags getting BLOWN THE FUCK OUT.

>>5211821
>a wet beef sandwich that sounds like an humorous synonym for rape

>>5220538

Libtard spotted

>>5209823
Good god, Burgerfats!
Is everything you eat a disgusting, corn syrup laden bastardization of something awesome?

>>5209823
m-muh casserole...

m-muh italian beef..

chicago truly must be a shithole

I had only known of NY pizza, the day I had a Chicago deep dish was the best day of my life!

-Best pizza ever.

>>5224635
That looks awful.

>>5224677
You're mouth would disagree.
It's all about the quality of the ingredients

Chicago tourist fucks supremely told by Scalia. People that actually live there eat something more akin to thin crust.

It's not like Chicago will ever get a fair hearing from a Court that has been packed with four New Yorkers (including a NY yid) and two Californians.

Fuck the Supreme Court, we declare a pizza revolution.

Why do you yanks call all pizzas pizza pie? if anything that term should only be used for the chicago style..

>>5227364
We call them pizza P.I.E. It stands for Place In Eatinghole

>>5211165
i think im not american enough to understand this comic

Most of these pics give me heartburn just looking at them.....

"fajitas" were originally made with skirt steak

"chili" was originally made without beans or tomato sauce

"OP" is latin for faggot, but is now referred to as a flaming homosexual who thinks taking sides on something as miniscule as a pizza debate is worth anyone's time other then their own or closest state nationalism.

Get fucked, words change meaning all the time.

>>5227565
>"fajitas" were originally made with skirt steak

Are you implying that they're not anymore? What are they made from now? Ground beef?

>>5227579

They were originally made with ONLY skirt steak. No chicken, pork, shrimp, or vegetarian.

The point is that words change constantly to accept new meaning, it is the nature of language.

Calling someone a gentleman now means he is kind and respectful. But it's original meaning was a man with a coat of arms who owned land.

>>5227583
>No chicken, pork, shrimp, or vegetarian.

Uh, ok. Never occurred to me that there was such a thing as vegetarian fajitas. Maybe it's a Texas thing, like how "queso" actually doesn't mean "cheese" to you.

>>5209844
IT'S NOT PIZZA IT'S FUCKING TRASH.

FUCK YOU.

>>5227592
Yea actual fajitas or fajita meat are skirt steak, but you can order chicken, pork, shrimp, and vegetarian fajitas which are pretty much the same concept, meat and veggies sauteed and served sizzling on a griddle w tortillas. Some of the best "fajitas" I've had were actually vegetarian from a place down the road. They use a godly marinated portabello mushroom instead of meat, so satisfying was the meaty tasty mushroom that meat was not missed.

Queso is indeed chili con queso. Or "cheese dip".

Chili doesn't have beans in it but I've had some pretty tasty beans in chili sauce with meat a few times. My mom makes a very tasty pot of beans in chili sauce with meat, I'll eat it up.