/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>you will never eat authentic Chinese food

Hot & sour soup is the best Chinese food.

>>5200404
i dont give a fuck about real chinese food its probably white rice with some plain fish. I just want this delicious meat and broccoli in my mouth with that godly brown sweet sauce

>>5200404
why not?

my vote goes to mongolian beef.

i was just about to make a chinese food thread, since i'm thinking about ordering some chinese.

i enjoy beef and broccoli, but what's some good shit that's less common but delicious?

>being brave with chinese food

Eggdrop soup is best soup.

Or anything with bokchoy. Just give me the bokchoy.

>>5200413
Any certain ingredients you do or don't want to try?

I'm always a sucker for a good ma po tofu.

>>5200400

I agree with you OP.

Wonton soup to start
Order of beef and brocolli, fried rice, egg roll (make that a couple)
Some dr. pepper or coke to wash it down.

It doesnt get much better then this unless you add a good sushi pairing while eating this. I know what Im eating next weekend

>>5200408
yea people say the same thing about taco bell

>>5200424
i'm open to essentially anything. just would prefer to avoid the pork, that shit is never as tasty as the beef or chicken to me.

>>5200433
I never get fast food chinese chicken because its so fake looking. It's like glued pieces of chicken. The meat looks like shit too but its one piece at least. I wish they could make this food with high quality meat, I guess PF changs is the only place that does.

>>5200433
Sit down or take out?

Peking duck, mongolian hot pot, myriads of dim sum like chicken feet, bbq pork buns, sharkfin soup, hell pretty much anything.

>>5200436
the only problem with that is the price would probably skyrocket. they have higher quality ingredients at places like pf changes, like you said, but you see how comparatively expensive it is.

i still can't fathom how these places manage to make the shrimp that cheap. it's tasty, but the price point being the exact same as chicken or beef is a bit worrisome. oh well, i've never gotten sick from eating chinese, so no need to start avoiding things now.

>>5200436
I don't think I'd ever describe PF Changs as high quality, just high priced.

You just need to find a nice little hole in the wall place that doesn't just serve greasy slop and call it Chinese food. Plenty of towns have them, and they are the best Chinese food you can get short of booking a flight to Asia.

>>5200439
seems to me that you live in a place with more asian peoples than i do. unfortunately, for the most part, i couldn't find any of the things you mentioned anywhere near here barring this one nice sit down place.

that said, the only thing from that list i've tried is peking duck (i fucking love duck), i'll keep them in mind next time i'm at a nice place.

>>5200445
probably expired shrimp, ive seen "shimp" that was like white blobs of something before though

>>5200436
http://www.snopes.com/photos/food/rats.asp

Perhaps there is a reason it doesn't look like real chicken

>>5200453
I want to try duck but I chicken (HA) out every time I get the chance.
I could have ordered it today but I ended up getting chicken satay instead
is it truly the god-tier of poultry?

>>5200457
nah, the place i usually order from has these shrimp that look like maybe 30-40 count, and look/taste just fine. i've been operating under the assumption that it's some sort of fake shrimp,. but i've never heard of anything like that before. maybe they just get really good prices buying in bulk or something, i just don't know.

>>5200459
this is what I mean, the pieces of glued meat. This pic actually looks better than most.

>>5200464
>is it truly the god-tier of poultry
yes. there is a very real reason people save the fat to cook things in. definitely worth the try, it doesn't even have a really strange flavor or anything, so nothing to be worried about. the skin is especially delicious (just like chicken now that i think about it)

>>5200464
It's fatty dark meat. Good stuff.

>>5200468
holy shit. i've always thought i had shit tier chinese around here, but at least the chicken my local place has looks real. same with all the meat really (though the pork isn't that tasty)

>>5200478
every single chinese food place I've ever been to has glued chicken like that.

>>5200484
i'm sorry for your loss. i've seen that kind of chicken at panda express type places, but not the local places, really.

>>5200405
This is my litmus dish for judging a Chinese place. Fuck experimenting with the entrees or appetizers. If a Chinese restaurant makes a really good hot and sour soup, then you know the rest of their menu is safe.

It's hard to find really good hot and sour soup.

>not boneless spare ribs

>>5200468

that looks like bourban chicken

>>5200404
>he wants to eat dog and rat fried in gutter oil

>>5200497
99% of them dont make the shit, they buy from a chinese distributor and they all serve the same shit

>>5200468
The reason it looks like that is because the majority of chinese places will use chicken thigh. It's much cheaper than breast, tastier, and less prone to drying out.
It looks glued together because... well, it basically is naturally. Lots of connective tissues that shrivel when heated make the meat look separated upon heating. Hell, you can even see the separation raw.

>>5200497
This guy's got it. It takes a lot of ingredients and a solid palette to make a good, proper hot and sour. If it sucks, chances are they don't care about ingredients, their cooks are shit, and/or they don't care about the food at all.

As for the shrimp issue... it's probably really shitty frozen shrimp from places people avoid, like Vietnam.

>>5200536
>going to shitty mainland china
also
>not eating from FoB immigrant-started joings

>>5200468

that just looks like chicken thighs, when I buy and cook with chicken thighs it looks very similar to that and I'm not buying sketchy chicken or anything

>>5200553
no it's fucking glued bro, you can see the enzyme glue shit between the pieces of meat.

>>5200561
>enzyme glue

It's the sugar in the sauce you moron. Marinaded some chicken breast pieces in a sugary soy chili paste for four days, and it looked pretty much the same.

>>5200561
Do you know how fucking expensive meat glue is? Why the hell would they cut into their minimal profit margin by gluing shitty chicken together? So two fucktards like us can argue about it online?

>>5200569
IT COMES FROM THE DISTRIBUTOR LIKE THIS

they glue it together to form chunks of shit meat

>>5200576
>glue meat together
>so it can be served as 1" chunks

Are you high?

For me, you're not really eating "real" Chinese food unless you're sitting in a round table and sharing food with a bunch of people. Usually there be a meat dish, vegetable dish, fish dish, special side dish, a large bowl of soup and a small bowl of rice for everyone. Desert will be some sort of sweet paste.

Dat crab rangoon shit, I could eat those until I got sick.

>>5200584

I think he's talking about mechanically separated meat but those are just your run of the mill chicken thighs

>>5200584

Not OP but they can actually glue meat together


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXXrB3rz-xU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

>>5200922
It's actually quite common to use meat glue in fine dining so it's not just about efficiency/cutting costs, it's also about aesthetics. Whether it's for two meat products trying to be stuck together like porchetta, or meats stuffed with farce to meat "noodles" like WD-50's shrimp noodles.

As for the potential dangers long term health effects, who knows.

>>5200632

pretty much hey, all the really noteworthy chinese meals i've had have involved a lot of friends or family

i like seeing too many dishes on the table

>>5200632
>>5201297
Those are the best meals, but even being stuck with just a single dish (or small collection) is pretty good.

Just went to one of my favorite restaurants tonight. Only one dish. At least they throw in four small varied vegetable side dishes to go with the main meal.

>>5200404
American Chinese food > Chinese Chinese food

Both are good though

Steak Kew is like beef and broccoli but better

>>5201347
Are you American?

>tfw american never taste real chinese food
>muh american chinese food > real chinese food
>mfw when they never eat braised abalone, shark fin soup, charsiu, fish lip soup, you tiao with chicken congee, etc2
>mfw

>>5200632
true
and
>greatest milk candy from mother china

>>5202241
>mfw when

ma la duck is my favorite thing to get but I only know of one place that serves it

do you guys have ma la duck available at chinese take out places near you?

>>5202255
Two have it. One also does ma la rabbit. Neither delivers. Both are costly.
Since Sichuan peppercorn is newly available in the US (last half decade or so), expect to see a large number of Sichuanese dishes and restaurants in the US. Most will be run by Cantonese or Taiwanese, though. The better ones will be run by Taiwanese.

spicy sour soup is a favorite of mine

How do they make the beef in beef and broccoli so tender? I can never get that texture at home, it's always chewy :(

>>5200400
mfw people talk about how the Chinese food they're eating isn't duck.

>>5202262
Beef and broccoli in oyster sauce delivers for nasty farts. You have to get slick releasing them, like in an elevator, let's say you know you're getting off at a certain floor, so let it out about one or two floors before.

That gives the fart time to get outta the pants, and get into the air, just in time for the doors of the elevator to open and one can make a subtle exunt. Walk slowly on exiting the elevator, to maximize the stench left behind.

It's a fucking art!

>>5202293
d00d maan, you mean it's not cats and dogs?

>>5202315
thats what you get when u unable to cook it yourself, pleb

>>5202241
>mfw you don't know about immigration

>>5200400
>>5200408
it's so bland though

Szechuan beef and moo goo gai pao is where it's at

>>5202255
This one place serves whole duck, but since I eat alone and want other things I can't see myself buying it

>>5200466
Bourdain says Chinese restaurants buy the shittiest seafood at the market, and IIRC they actually fight over them.

>>5200404

I stayed in China for a while.
Couple of days in (Beijing, Xi'an, and Shanghai)
Only ate at "fancy restaurants" wasn't much of a fan.
Sad to say that Americanized Chinese tastes much better to me.
Then again, I didn't eat a meal made by a Chinese grandma at their home. So maybe I missed out.

>>5200404
>nor will you ever want to

>>5202561
how much did your "fancy" meals cost in USD?

I can get the lunch special with soup and egg roll for 10 - 11 bucks at my local chinese places

>>5200497
I do the exact same thing! Every buffet we go to, I try the hot and sour soup. One place it is goopey, like its been under the heat lamp all day, and wouldn't you know, so has the rest of the food. One place, the soup's bamboo shoots taste faintly of mold, as does their "sushi".
The last place, we went to for valentine's, was authentic Chinese. Their hot and sour soup was the best I ever had, you could really taste the individual ingredients and flavors, all really fresh. Now I need to try everything else there.

>>5200400
Can't believe no one has said it yet

best chinese-american food*

They dont have beef and broccoli in china

>>5202603
it was obvious to the rest of us what we were talking about

My favorite chinese dish is Lamb kebabs with Cumin Seeds and Red Pepper seasoning.

They're so goddamn delicious, holy shit. It's amazing that I can't find anyone in the states that sells this.

>>5203238
I got called a bullshitter on here the other day because I mentioned that quite a number of the Chinese places near my house carry lamb, only for the posters to shut the fuck up when I posted their menus.

There are only two places that do the lamb kebabs here, though, but it's not just cumin and chili. There's also five spice, so it's got a sweetness going for it, too.
There used to be three, but one closed unexpectedly last year. There were rumours that the place was a money laundering front for organised crime, though, so that could be a possible explanation for closing suddenly, out of the blue.

I can't stand broccoli or peas

>>5202561

>eating at fancy restaurants

All the best Chinese food comes from the streets and the holes in the wall.

>>5201348
I am, but my Japanese friend agrees with me.

>>5203263
>hole in the wall

This is white people code for "I haven't heard of it so others haven't heard of it either"

>>5203278
Ah. Of course you'd like it, then. It's been tailored to your tastes.
Same reason I prefer Chinese food from my country to Chinese Chinese food and I prefer both to American Chinese food because American Chinese food is not tailored to my tastes.
IDK about Japanese people's tastes much. I have cousins who are half Japanese but they're hardly a decent sample size.

Moo Shu is best.

As long as the place has traditional pancakes.
>tfw get Moo Shu at a new Chinese place and they serve it with corn flour tortillas

>>5203283
Your racism is clouding your thoughts.
A hole in the wall means exactly that, a small business that looks like a hole in the wall.

>>5203329

Of course it does :)

>>5203283
I'm not who you're talking to, but the most popular chinese place nearby me is called a "hole in the wall" by everyone. Everyone knows that everyone knows about it. But it's literally a hole in the wall. You walk into a tiny lobby and order your food through a window. You watch the tiniest, oldest Chinese couple you've ever seen make beautiful, tasty dishes before your very eyes... through a hole in the wall.

No one thinks it's SOOPER SEKRIT. But everyone thinks it's a hole in the wall. Because it is.

>>5202386
>>5203238
Shao kao is as delicious as it is unsanitary.

>>5200400
That does look really, really good.
Most Chinese restaurant food is tasty as hell. Never been to China though :(

>>5200645
FINALLY.

also SHRIMP TOAST ftw

>>5200536
>gutter oil

even if its in china i am still worried about some chinese shit holes in NYC that might do this

>>5200400

I can definitely see where you're coming from, but I can eat nothing but 30 crab/cheese rangoon and be good to go.

Every time I get chinese food I get sweet sour pork, even when I think I'll try something different it's like a knee jerk reaction that I can't stop.
Me ringing up chinese food:
>Harro can I please have one sweer sow pok
and den?
>one wonton soup
and den?
>one fry rice special
and den?
>No and den
and den?
>no and den!

>>5203867
nostalgic kek @ reference
I fucking love swee and sawa po' too
>that heavenly first bite

>>5203839
>thinking its economical to make gutter oil in America

are you retarded or something?

>>5203867
>I wan fry rye

>tfw chinese and reading the posts ITT

so fucking embarrassing.... Fuck this board.

>>5204085

Thanks for contributing!

>>5204085
is that the japanese girl from king of the hill?

>>5202276
Good Chinese places will velvet their meat, cheaper places will use baking soda or some commercial tenderizing agent in their marinades.

>>5204085
why?

btw my fav chinese foodd is mapodofu

>>5203896
Wouldn't American restaurants do this just for the pleasure of knowing they've somehow "cheated" or "beaten" the customer, though? I mean, they do worship antisocial behavior afterall.

Not a fan of beef and brocolli. It's all about Beef Fried Rice, Sweet and Sour Pork, General Tso's chicken, Pepper Steak. Damn I love chinese food.

>>5204085
Yeah man. How dare people like what you don't like.

>>5204085
Instead of posting a stupid non-ck picture, you could have contributed with actual Chinese food.

But I guess it's easier to bitch about 'mah culture' and play the victim rather than educating people.

>>5204085
What's the best way to prepare dog in poo oil?

Is chinese food in Europe like chinese food in America?

>>5200433

>prefer to avoid the pork, that shit is never as tasty as the beef or chicken to me.

is it fucking opposite day

>>5205685

It's worse.

I like the kung pao or the szechuan chicken/beef. Whichever one doesn't have tomato, I can never remember but that's the main difference between them. I just wish I were faster at prep work and dad a hotter stove. I'd cook it every night then. At least egg rolls you can be lazy with. Coleslaw, soy sauce, oyster sauce and you're done in 5 minutes(except for rolling those fat veggie joints) , add some minced garlic and ginger to flavor the oil, and prepackaged wrappers are good enough. Hot and sour soup is god tier but is also lots of work. I never eat white rice because it tastes like nothing. I just cook a batch the night before and fry after work.

>>5203285
Nips have shit taste. Not surprising since their cuisine is like a retard cousin of China and Korea. And they accuse the Koreans of stealing and ripping them off, lol.

>>5204242
She's Chinese.

>>5204242
It's the chick from the DyE-Fantasy music video.

>>5205731
I didn't know sichuan chicken has tomato but I know for sure kung pao doesn't.

pretty sure they boil eggs in young, vigin, boy urine as a snack.

I eat Pressed Duck/Almond Duck when I can find it but I fear it's just an early 20th century Americanized dish adapted from something or 'created' and billed (teehee) as Chinese. But it's tasty. I don't know the name but the garlic sautéed thin string beans are also very tasty to me. Otherwise Moo Goo Gai Pan and Lemon Chicken or the old General Tso's chicken.
My local market owner, Mrs Chau taught me beef and bok choi with oyster sauce and then rice noodles in a ham broth but I can't understand the names, just the cooking directions.

>>5205774
Funny, you don't look Chinese.

>>5204085

man i think you actually have to have grown up around chinese food to get salty about this tho, because chinese food stunts so hard on everything

I guess westernized chinese has it's place tho idk

>Ctrl+f
>"singapore"
>"Phrase not found"

Lol, it's almost as if people don't want to eat delicious food.

>>5208512
is that singapore me fun or something?

>>5208517
looks like it to me, but for some reason it seems they added shreds of romaine lettuce. also needs moar roast pork.

>>5208517
Fried-rice vermicelli with curry powder, bell peppers, pak choi, scallions, three types of meat (chicken/pork/beef) and shrimp. It's absolutely unbelievable. I could eat mountains of it.

>>5208535
Also the romaine lettuce is pretty random. I've never had singapore noodles with that. I think in the pic they were simulating pak choi.

>>5208552
it's bok choy obviously... christ ck

>>5208512
>singapore
>delicious food
I live there and i cringe everytime someone tells me that.
Food is above average at most but over-rated by people like you

>>5208556
never seen ANY kind of choy like that.

unless you count romaine lettuce, which it is.

>>5208563

Singapore Noodles aren't actually from Singapore. They're more popular in Hong Kong. In any case, I assure you that these noodles are fucking delicious.

>>5208586
Singapore noodles are elder god tier when they are made right.

>>5208563
I've lived there for a year and I thought it was a food paradise:

>hawker centres and kopitiams everywhere
>fresh and authentic southern Chinese, Malay and Indian food for bottom prices
>literally thousands of stalls to choose from
>cool food culture where everybody eats out at least twice a day
>have pig trotter soup for breakfast just because I can
>order a huge steamed sea bass at 3 in the morning just because I feel like it
>nobody bats a fucking eye

>not numbing your face and anus with Szechuan

ishygddt2014

>>5208893
I think Malaysia is more cosmopolitan, and traditional, with longer history of both Chinese and Indian settlement.

Best fried rice in my life was some Nasi Goreng from a taxi hawker stand in KL.

>>5200400
Dis nigga has never tried Chicken Kow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QxvbeZ-9m4
Actual Chinese food

I work in an authentic Chinese seafood restaurant, and my favorite dishes would have to be the black bean clams, black bean lobster, and ginger green onion lobster or mussels, paired with a garlic string bean or spicy egg plant and a side of jasmine rice. NOM

>>5208964
My classmates and I brought a fuckton of huajiao back from Chengdu and they've been putting it in anything.

There's only one Chinese food that delivers near me, but they don't have fried rice, is it worth it still?

I hate going and getting food, but I like fried rice.

>>5209769
wat
fried rice is what like 60% of white people order at chinese restaurants, why in the fuck would they think not serving it isn't a negative to their profits?

>>5209772
It's fucked up, the only choices are steamed white rice and brown rice.

Who the hell gets brown rice?

>>5209773
brown rice is nice in stir fries, pretty bad plain/steamed.
are their Asian cuisine culinary abilities actually not beyond those of the average western child or something? Interested to know what they do sell..

>>5209782
https://www.grubhub.com/restaurant/258106/?where=s/20529163&

I've never been before, by the way, just considering going.

>>5200427
As much as I want to berate you for being pleb, I can't deny that this is top tier comfort food.

>>5209784
what are you talking about there's a whole section of fried rice

>>5209784
Care to explain this, anon?

>>5209859
>>5209861
Shit, I just based it off this.

Never scrolled through the whole menu.

>>5209869

THIS GUY IS A DUMB MOTHER FUCKER

For me my personal favorites (I live in Vancouver so it's pretty much Hong Kong,BC and as a result I'm spoiled for choice)

tea smoked duck
Fried taro root and shredded duck meat
pan fried rice noodles (the brown ones from dim sum)
cumin lamb

I've only had this once but it's stuck with me this whole time, was a "wet" orange tea smoked duck I had in Hong Kong. Tea smoked duck is typically dry with no sauce, so this one was different though I've never seen it again.

>chinese food
>general tsos
>not delicious tong zi dan
>2014

>>5209861
>fried rice served with steamed rice

wat

>>5210051

probably means 'made with'

>>5200484
>>5200468
It's normal guys.
That's because they cook it differently, they boil it in a closed bag (or whatever they have) with fat and salt ,if I remenber correctly, that way the meat has a different texture and can be conserved way longer.
Chinese tends to boil their meat before cooking it with sauce.

>>5210044
I'd eat one made with white boy pee but not Chinese boy pee.

Beef Chow Fun master race.

>>5208893
fuck man i have this dream of going and eating shellfish while boozy at like 2 am

you have probably lived that dream several times

>>5210051
>>5210055
most chinese restuarants I go to give you rice with every entree, regardless of what it contains

>>5213045
I like cheong fun.

>>5213045
Agreed. I use beef chow fun as a barometer like I do hot and sour. Because it's such a simple dish and uses delicate ho fun, it's easy to tell if the restaurant gives a shit. It better not be greasy, have beaten up noodles(or worse... old crunchy noodles), good ratio of beef-sprout-scallion-onion-noodle, and good wok hei.