/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Smirnoff and UHT milk

Cream not milk

>>5200116
Kahlua is already the best coffee liqueur and it's already fairly cheap

>but what exactly should the parts be? 5 shots vodka and 2 shots coffee? 2.5 shots vodka and 1 shot coffee?
does it matter as long as you want to keep that ratio? how ever much you want to drink/fits in the glass you are using

ice, cake vodka, kahlua, chocolate milk, heavy cream

half glass ice, jigger vodka, two jigger kahlua, rest choco milk, dash cream, blown with a straw in the bottom so the heavy stuff mixes up better

>>5200146
>cake vodka (60 proof wtf)
>chocolate milk

It's hardly a white russian anymore. You should come up with a new name.

>>5200151
>this asshole who thinks cocktail recipes should be followed to a T

>>5200151
>implying I care about the integrity of my girly cream-based cocktails

>>5200160
Cake vodka is disgusting.
Yes it's amazing how much it tastes like cake.
Does not make it good.

>>5200169
Except it works in russians. Also vanilla and whipped cream vodka.

>>5200160
Since when are White Russians "girly"?

>>5200175
Since it's sweet and less than half hard liquor.

>buh... but muh lebowski!

>>5200116
>Best type of vodka to use?
Stoli is officially the pricepoint past which you cannot taste a difference.

>>5200180
>believing there are such things as "manly" and "girly" drinks
>2014

>>5200204
mostly true, but there are a few standouts e.g. Ketel One and Chopin.

Alright guys, I have an idea here. What if I was to replace the cream with Rum Chata? I think this sounds like a recipe for greatness.

Go drink your pink raspberry cosmo somewhere else.

>>5200230
YES. Do it in this recipe
>>5200146

Should taste like liquid dessert!

>>5200230
Bailey's also works well as substitute for Cream, but for some reason it doesn't mix well with really cheap or 80 proof vodka (not sure why but it doesn't mix well and sort of coagulates). One thing I know that does work well is 2 parts 100 proof Stoli to 2 parts Kahlua to 1 part Baileys.

>>5200246
sorry, I meant 2 parts 100 proof Stoli to 1 part Kahlua to 1 part Baileys*

Milk is too thin, and cream is too rich/heavy. I like to compromise between the two and use half&half.

>>5200261
half and half is half cream and half milk ya faget

>>5200274
>Milk too thin
>Cream too heavy
>I like to compromise between the two
>Compromise
>English verb meaning to settle a disput via mutual concession (which here means 'give up')

Oh yeah he totally had no idea what he was saying you daffy cunt.

>>5200160
That's like, your opinion, man...

>>5200291
Silly Americans... I duly appreciate the assist old boy. Ta..

>>5200171
Seconding whipped cream vodka. Holy shit it made for the tastiest drink I've ever had.

>>5200430
Shit's great. Also good with orange soda.

>>5200291
>>5200325

* If I'm drinking a lot I use 2% milk instead of half&half since it's not as heavy.

* Kahlua French Vanilla is good

* Three Olives Cherry Vodka is good

* I usually do equal parts vodka/kahlua

* As a sub for Kahlua I've only ever tried Kamora. It wasn't as good. I hear Starbucks is decent, but it's the same price or a couple bucks more than Kahlua so I stick with Kahlua. I do like to buy it on sale though ... don't really like paying $19 for it ... usually try to get it on sale for $16.

>>5200146
>cake vodka
naw, use espresso vodka

>>5200116
Use flavored CoffeeMate creamer. WAAAY better than milk

White and black russians are supposed to be pretty strong fucking drinks. It's 2 parts vodka, 1 part kahlua, 1 part cream or whole milk for a white, and 2 parts vodka 1 part kahlua for a black. Brand of vodka really doesn't matter, the kahlua overwhelms it pretty easily.

>>5202535
>kahlua
It's essentailyl mixed at "highball ratios", which is to say about 1:1 spirit to mixers, which is to say it is in no way considered to be a drink that is "strong" by anyone who knows anything about cocktails. For example, Embury's "magic ratio" of 8:2:1 (spirit:modifier:sweetner), would be equivalent to a 2.67:1 ratio, and that would be his average (ex: his martini is 7:1, and his Old Fashioned would clock in at about 12:1).

tldr: They're not very strong at all, Shirley Temple.

>>5202589
>his martini is 7:1

holy shit, am i pleb for mixing mine 3:1 then? a 12:1 old-fashioned sounds about right

>>5201659
>cherry vodka

That's disgusting!

>>5202589
Embury is fucking retarded.

And alright, fine, a white russian isn't that strong when compared to a number of other cocktails.

>>5202677
>am i pleb for mixing mine 3:1 then?

Of course not. I think it's a bit of a shame that the amount of vermouth fashionable in Martinis has decreased steadily ever since the cocktail was invented

>>5202777
>Embury is fucking retarded.
Says the man who actually takes vodka cocktails seriously, and worse yet, drowns them in milk and sugar-syruped liquer. Just have a fucking milkshake instead, it's clearly what' you're looking for anyway.

Embury wrote (arguably) the most well-respected book in the industry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fine_Art_of_Mixing_Drinks
If someday you'd actually care to understand anything about cocktails, it'd be a good place to start.

>>5202834
I never said I drink white russians, I just know the recipe.

And embury is fucking retarded. Well respected in the industry? You're kidding, right? His book belongs in no bar anywhere.

You have to use nothing but the finest
Absolut
Kahlua
Shamrock farms ½&½

>>5202888
>finest
>absolut

>>5202696
Dunno about in other stuff, but give it a whirl in a White Russian at least once. Kinda reminds me (a little bit) of those chocolate cherry cordials.

I don't like cream in my coffee, and I don't like cream in my russians.

Black russians are the best russians.

bump

>>5202832
I like the Noel Coward/Winston Churchill recipes for a martini, which is a glass of gin and a gesture made toward Italy and France

>>5200116
depends on your tastes. i generally use stoli, but i just prefer a non-flavored vodka. however, others have suggested vanillia or whipped cream vodkas, and those might not be too bad.

imo, kahlua is pretty sweet as coffee liqueurs go - try something else if you want a more coffee-like flavor. the patron shit if you feel fancy, whatever offbrand shit if you're on a budget.

i think the dairy you chose will have a much larger impact on the flavor than some people realize. if you use fat free milk, you're essentially just adding white colored water, so that will preserve the flavor. on the other end, if you use heavy whipping cream, it will really smooth things out and make for a full creamy mouth feel - its almost like drinking something from starbucks at this point.

i've had bars actually make me a WR with baileys irish cream. don't do this. doesn't taste right at all.

luckily for you, WRs are one of the cheapest "official" cocktails you can make! you can always pour in enough shit to hide the flavor of heaven swill tier vodka, off-brand kahluas aren't that bad, and you probably already have milk in your fridge. start off with a 1:1 ratio of vodka:coffee liqueur, and then add enough dairy until it looks and tastes like something you like.

and as always, abide.

Not related to White/Black Russians but what are some good stuff to drink with gin? Most kind of fruit stuff seem to go pretty well with it but any specific ideas?

>>5200180
>less than half hard liquor.

Nope

White Russians amaze me. It's like a starbucks, but gets you fucked up, girls love it. Young people love it. Great to get girls fucked

>>5200209

The way I figure it, any drink that tries to hide the fact there's any alcohol in it at all is 'girly'.

So, both a white russian and a Long Island iced tea are girly.

...but I'll drink the white russian anyway.

The LIIT? Fuck that; I'm not a teenager; I'll drink something that tastes good.

>>5205830
>go drinking with a strange mix of friends and coworkers
>one of the bartenders recognizes two of us (not me)
>free white russians everywhere
>everyone abides

>>5203691
Everybody does, because it sounds cool.

...and gin is higher quality now, so it doesn't *require* vermouth to be palatable.

With some gin (Sapphire, say) you may as well not add vermouth because it may actually make it worse.

...but a nice fresh vermouth compliments many gins very very nicely. Vermouth is underrated.

I wish I had a negroni right now. ...or a boulevardier.

>>5205830
I find only the lightest of light weights can drink enough of them to get drunk and not get sick. I love them but I limit it to one or two a night.

>>5206094
On an empty stomach, anything's possible!

>>5206094
If I'm mixing, the more I drink the higher the ratio of vodka to Kahlua goes so, by the end of the night I end up drinking what is, essentially, coffee flavored vodka.

I use Costco French vodka, Kahlua and milk.

Tried it with heavy cream and it was too thick and rich. I usually buy 1%

I don't measure, probably 1/3 vodka, couple shots of kahlua, milk to the top

>Best type of vodka to use?

Just get anything over 20 dollars and then use a Brita to filter it so its smooth.

>Do you need Kahlua or just any type of coffee liqueur?

Any liqueur will do really. Kahlua is just used because it's widely available compared to the more expensive French chocolate Liqueurs

>Is a specific type of milk like whole milk vs. fat free better?

Whole milk is creamier, fat free is more watery.