/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I've never seen a pasty served in a pub, though I've never been to a Cornish pub.

>Southern England
>Yes, many

>>5121014

what is this? a meat pie?

>>5121052
Pretty much, yeah.

>>5121044
Devon makes better pasties than Cornwall.

I saw them a lot growing up in southern Indiana. For some reason they pop up premade in higher in grocers here in MN (Byerly's for example).

I've always wanted to make a bongistani meat pie but fuck pie crusts man.

>>5121076
3:2:1

Flour, butter, water. That's fucking it. Cut the butter into the flour. Then add the water. Roll out. There, basic pie crust.

>>5121014
>Where do you live, have you ever heard of these, and have you ever eaten one?

I live in the US, yes I've heard of them, and yes, I've eaten them. I've also made them. It's not hard. Here's what I do:

Filling:
Brown some ground beef, then remove from the pan. Sweat down onions, carrots, and celery. Put the beef back in the pan, then add a little Colman's mustard, Worcestershire sauce, salt and pepper, and just enough beef stock to barely cover. Simmer until reduced and thickened, then remove from the heat and allow to cool.

Then just roll out some puff pastry (I use the frozen stuff), spoon on some of the filling and wrap up the pastry. Bake until the pastry is golden, then serve it. Gravy is a must, I usually make a simple roux with flour and butter then add beef stock and red wine and reduce.

A lot of the Philipino bakeries and shops around where I live sell empanadas. Apart from being thinner with a flakier crust they don't seem very different from any pasties I've had.

>>5121082
If you're going to use gravy, just make a fucking pie. The point of the pasty is it's a whole meal in a pastry pouch. You hold it by the thick edge and chow down

>>5121014
Sydney
Yes
I LOVE THEM. I put a small amount of tomato sauce (ketchup) on them. Harry's make pretty good ones

>>5121094

Yeah, I'm aware of the origins of the pastie but I have no need nor desire to eat them with my hands. I'm not a miner eating his lunch on the go, I sit down at the table and eat with a knife and fork. I prefer to make multiple pasties rather than one pie because I like the larger ratio of crust to filling. It provides a nice contrasting texture. But yeah, you could use it in a pie just the same, the recipe would be unchanged.

>>5121128
Your town is fucking tiny bro. Ex-yupper prolly.

If you've ever had a Hot Pocket, you've pretty much eaten a Cornish pasty.

>>5121141
>fucking tiny
Ok, and?
>yupper
What's that?

there everywhere in australia, i work at a small country bakery we go though like 4 dozen a day

>>5121014
As a proud Cornishman, I despise Michigan and wish a great plague upon them for what they did you the Cornish pasty.

>>5121052
Moron.

>>5121014
>Where do you live, have you ever heard of these, and have you ever eaten one?

Britfag, Manchester.

There's thousands of bakery/sandwich shops and every single one of them sells pasties, as does every single corner shop and supermarket.

A pasty is just cheap fast food, it's the British version of a burger.

NorCal
Yes, have had some Cornish pasties at Brit pubs here. I like them. Usually are served with gravy. The place that makes the best ones around here (IMO) also served it with a cup of buttered peas alongside, which I also put on top along with the gravy. But they're good without either on top, too.

>>5122480
Also, I forgot to say, why is it, it seems, the Brit pubs here (in NorCal) are always full of rowdy Australians?

>>5122480
>served with gravy
Let's serve steak with ketchup while we are at it.

>>5122492
>Oh boo hoooooooo

>I have no need nor desire to eat them with my hands.
>served with gravy.
>Carrot
>peas
It's not complicated, how could you fuck it up so much?

>>5121014

Yooper masterrace here. Pasties are overrated and there's absolutely no legend of any bigfoot in the UP.

>>5122492
>Let's serve steak with ketchup

I live in the upper midwest, and growing up my family would go to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan to visit my Great Grandma. It was there that I first heard of them, and we would always eat them from local Pasty shops.

Funnily enough, they did say ketchup was common with them, and that's how I and my family always ate them.

Also, I was told it was a mining community, and that originally they were made for miners, as they were basically whole meals all in one convenient bread container.

>The Upper Peninsula of Michigan. In some areas, pasties are a significant tourist attraction, including an annual Pasty Fest in Calumet, Michigan in late June. Pasties in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan have a particularly unusual history, as a small influx of Finnish immigrants followed the Cornish miners in 1864. These Finns (and many other ethnic groups) adopted the pasty for use in the Copper Country copper mines.[47][48] About 30 years later, a much larger flood of Finnish immigrants found their countrymen baking pasties. The pasty has become strongly associated with Finnish culture in this area, and in the culturally similar Iron Range in northern Minnesota.[49]

>Mineral Point, Wisconsin was the site of the first mineral rush in the USA during the 1830s. After lead was discovered in Mineral Point many of the early miners migrated to this south-western Wisconsin area from Cornwall. Those Cornish miners brought their skills working in the deep underground tin mines of Cornwall. They also brought their recipe and appetite for the pasty.[50]

Though, this is just my experience. They are common other places, and certainly not just "Michigan" food.

I haven't had one in forever. My local meat market has them, maybe I'll buy one next time.

Now I also am missing the U.P.

>>5122756
>Now I also am missing the U.P.
Go fuck yourself. We're full.

>>5121082
>puff pastry

>>5122492
There are many different tiers of gravy, from fast food quality all the way up to delicious. Just because it has gravy on it doesn't automatically make it shit.

>>5122756
See
>>5122467

>>5123295
ew, that dough doesn't even look cooked in the center.

>>5121237

He fucked it up; it's yooper, not yupper. It's just a term used to mean a resident of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

Coming from someone who grew up in Marquette, most of the pasties we make are bland as fuck and not really faithful to their origins, thanks mostly to the Finns and their retardedly bland cuisine. Yes, ketchup is a normal topping for them.

>>5121014
>Where do you live
Englandistan

>have you ever heard of these
They are the equivalent to the burger here

>have you ever eaten one
Hundreds of every variety.

>>5121056
>Devon makes better pasties than Cornwall.
Kill yourself.

>>5121076
Pasty, not a pie.

>>5121082
>That entire post

>>5121085
That's because the empanda was what the Cornish miners who went to south America would make pasties with out of local ingredients. The same with Jamaican patties.

>>5121201
>If you've ever had a Hot Pocket, you've pretty much eaten a Cornish pasty.

>>5122484
Because Australians are British therefore gravitate towards a familiar port in a foreign storm?

Aren't these beef wellingtons? Aren't pasties those things people use to cover up their nipples?

I find it funny how all of these Americans are posting these weird recipes when that would be illegal in the EU. A Cornish pasty follows a very specific recipe, cooking method and it has to be made in Cornwall in order for it to have said name. All of this talk of minced beef instead of skirt, fucking peas and gravy or ketchup? Blasphemy.

>>5122756
>The pasty has become strongly associated with Finnish culture in this area
That's fucking stupid. That's like going to a Russian McDonalds and saying the burger is Russian culture.

>>5123992
this make me lol

>>5121014
Yeah your pic looks very similar to a Cornish pasty. Except for the filling, which shouldn't have any carrots and whatever the green is. Also looks a little on the small side, on the real deal the crimp on the edge would be long enough you can grasp it in both hands.

>>5123288
>Just because it has gravy on it doesn't automatically make it shit
No, but it does make it not a Cornish pasty.

>>5121081
cornish pasties are not as pie crust as pie crutsty. they is also a bit puff

>>5123295
Why are you posting a picture of a pork pie when we are talking about pasties?

>>5123306
Dumb fuck.

>>5124000
Idiot.

>quite enjoy a gingsters pasty

Does that make me a bad person?

I live in Montana and there's a town here called Butte that has pretty deep Irish roots (a lot of them moved there around the turn of the century to work in the mines). I usually try to hit up one of the several pasty shops in town when I go there.

>>5124022
>Instead of telling someone why they are wrong, he just calls them idiots

You'll get far in life.

>>5124030
If I ever find myself stuck in Butte again, I'll try to remember that.

>>5124031
>Having the brain of a toddler
>Not knowing basic things
Do you know what up is yet? How about what blue is?

>>5124026
>quite enjoy a gingsters pasty
M8......

>Does that make me a bad person?
Yes, yes it does make you a bad person.

>>5124030
What does Ireland have to do with the pasty? As for your "pasty", that's man vs food levels of an insult to Cornwall.

>>5123981
Devon was here. Cornwall's a faggot.

>>5124000
Are you trolling right now? It isn't very good.

>>5124085
Cornwall was here, Devon are faggots that don't even have a pasty named after them and their cream teas are made from dogs milk.

>>5124086
well honestly most US citizen think of nipple coverings when they hear the word pasty

>>5124072
b-but there is a real lack of decent bakers in my town. They're not bad if you stick them in the oven for 20 mins.

Thoughts on Cornish pasty co.? I think they're dire.

>>5124093
But a pasty is a portable pastry container with a filling. There are thousands of variations and are a hardy food originally eaten by Cornish miners. Where do you get tit covering from that?

>>5124098
I googled "Cornish pasty co." and it came up with some sort of American restaurant.

>>5124111
Turns out it's called "the West Cornwall Pasty Company", they're pretty prolific around London at least.

>>5124108
That's just what they're called, I guess.

>>5124108
I know greggs is for untermensch, but..

>Sausage and Bean Melt

HHNNGGGG

>>5124108
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasties

>>5124030
'What the hell is that? Why is it swimming in chili?

>>5124108
>Where do you get tit covering from that?

Different pronunciation
past-y = pie like thing
paste-y = tit cover

>>5124091
Yet, Devon still makes better Cornish pasties than Cornwall does. Odd, that.

>>5124372
You rike dis faggot?

I live in Hancock and quite a few restaurants sell them. They're pretty good albeit somewhat bland depending on where you go. You'll find pasty shops all across the UP, and most of them cater more towards tourists (especially ones near St. Ignace). It's really filling and you can't beat getting a good 17 oz. pasty for less than $5.

>>5124423
Such a terrible waste of food...

>>5121014
>Where do you live

Finland

>have you ever heard of these, and have you ever eaten one?

Yes. We have many kinds of pasties. Sweet and savory kinds. They're a very known food. Unhealthy but pretty good. Especially when you get a fast food one. Drunk. At 5am.

>>5124502
You what cunt?
Watch your fucking mouth.

>>5124547
What else do Finns eat when drinking/drunk?

>>5124711
>What else do Finns eat when drinking/drunk?

Pizza made by immigrants, kebabs, maybe a burger. Also sausage or whatever you can find at one of those snack bars. Pic related is a lihapiirakka, it's a meat pie. That one has some condiments in it (never had one with cheese in it though, that looks pretty gross) and a couple frankfurters.
Or you can find whatever there is in your fridge/pantry and try to cook it. Bonus points for not setting your house on fire by accident.

>>5124495
anything other than ketchup to a true YOOPER is sacrelgious. rutabega is master race over carrots. just a bitch to cut up. amyj's in hancock has the best pasties ever.

houghton checking in

>>5125480
You eat like Americans.

>>5124404
>Yet, Devon still makes better Cornish pasties than Cornwall does

>>5125481
>sacrelgious
It's funny how you say that while making a horrible copy of the original.

>>5125482
But you don't have meat pies in Clapistan right?

>>5125502

This guy knows whats up.

>>5125514

they're not common, but there's a really good cuban chain near me that sells realllllly good meat pies.

>>5125482
That's a bit of an overstatement but sure, we have our fair share of unhealthy foods. I was only listing what we eat drunk, though. Those are fast foods so it's not a surprise they sound like something Americans eat.

>>5125514
Not that guy, but I've never had a pastie before (Canadian here). closest I can think of is a tourtiere, but that is quite different.

caribbean meat (beef or goat) patties

>>5125605
hnnnng

>>5125592 here. We have lots of those in Canada, I should have remembered those.

I think there's a place in the northern USA that had a lot of Cornish immigrants back in the day and so pasties are a local delicacy

>>5125502
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1174967/Eat-Pie-wars-break-Devon-firm-wins-CORNISH-pasty-contest-organisers-error.html

Cornish? No, pasties are from Devon | http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/nov/12/foodanddrink

See? "Cornish" pasties aren't even Cornish.

Stay mad, Cornwall. Stay mad.

the pasty is basically yooper soulfood. a pasty and a hot sauna will cure what ever ails you

I got my father over to mine a coming night. The man has been working in a tundra. Homemade meat pie sounds like something good to heat him up this winter. Was gonna make a tread but will ask here first.
Good instructions, suggestions and things to serve it with would be very appreciated

>>5125611
Michigan and they changed the recipe significantly.

>>5125681
>Daily mail
Devon confirmed retards.

>>5128936
Why are you talking about a pie in a pasty thread?

>>5129134
A pasty is a type of pie. They're both pastry with a filling

>>5129132
>the daily mail is wrong even when it reports things that actually happened
stay mad, cornwall. stay mad.

>>5129159
That's like saying a burger and a steak are the same thing.

>>5129204
ewww gravy ketchup is the only way to go

>>5121014
Canada
Yes
You can buy them here premade at some grocery store delis

>>5121052
It's a big empanada.

Cornish pasties > Devonshire pasties
Devonshire Cream Tea > Cornish Cream Tea

This is coming from a neutral Yorkshire viewpoint.

>>5124547
What you're referring to is by no means a pasty. First of all, the dough is completely different. Second, the Finnish "lihapiirakka" has rice in the filling and no veg. It's fast food, not something you'd make as a staple of a diet.

God damn Finns...

>>5121014
My understanding was that they're made with one side filled with meat and other savoury foods, and the other side filled with jam or fruit or chocolate for a dessert, and the two halves are separated by a layer of pastry. They'd give them to workers as a full meal and stamp letters or names on them to denote whose they were or what side was the dessert side and what side was the main dish.

> all this pasty misinformation and pasty gore

The next australian I see is getting brayed for that pie floater shit too.

>>5132297

All completely right. I give you my cornish seal of approval.

MI here

pasties -best in the Ipper Peninsula where the Finns cook 'em up

lotsa gravy or ketchup

yummy!

>>5121014
I'm from Michigan and I've never heard of pastys being popular here.

>>5124030
That looks like a knish.

>>5132612
There's not many shops in the lower peninsula. If there is one, it's very popular during hunting season. Hunters will order a shit ton of frozen pasties and take them up north.

>>5129122
How significantly? From my understanding they were filled with cheap meats and veggies because it was for poor immigrants working the mines. If anything, they've probably gotten better.

Cornish miners used to just eat the filling and leave the pastry behind for cave goblins to eat. Seriously.

>>5122756
>Now I also am missing the U.P.

I live in the lower peninsula and it's -4F windchill today. The only thing I miss about the U.P. right now is that I was young, got laid like crazy, did great drugs and got laid some more.

And oh yeah, ate some great pasties with lotsa ketchup.

>>5132677
>The only thing I miss about the U.P. right now is that I was young, got laid like crazy, did great drugs and got laid some more.
Kid Rock pls go

What does Pasty Sauce taste like? Or is it just ketchup?

>>5132297
As has been said before, completely correct. Also the crusts are on the side so the miners wouldnt get dirt and shit on there food, they would throw they crusts as an offering to Knockers for looking after the mines.

>>5131885
Maybe what I referred to wasn't exactly a pasty, mr pasty nazi. We do have things like pasteijat also, so I don't think I'm in the wrong thread. Unless you think those aren't pasties either because things like ham, cheese or chicken can be put inside.

>>5132701
>they would throw they crusts as an offering to Knockers

To the what?

>>5129204
What the hell is that, soy sauce? Jesus christ.

>>5132701
You just have to love a tasty food with an interesting history.

>This thread

I'm trying to contain my mad but I just can't. Anybody from outside of England should be forbidden from ever talking about pasties.

>>5134569

that's fair as long as you gap toothed islanders stop talking about fast food, pizza and chicken nuggers.

>>5134602
okay but you fatties have to stop talking about steak, eggs, bacon, sausages, bread, meatballs, chicken, potatoes, leeks and to be honest most other foods too.
All these things were invented by Great Britain.

>tfw our food inventions made you our fat bitches

>>5123978
I am a little jelly, here in ca we don't have these. At least not in my area.
So I have to make them, but without ever having one. I don't know if I am doing it right.

>This Devonian ITT doing Gods work and frustrating the Cornish

>>5121014
I'm a proud Michigander and these were my favorite dish growing up. When I think of that smell my heart flutters and my tip shudders.

>>5134668
Devon is the Wales of England.

>>5134632
lol, none of those things originated in Britain. The word bacon doesn't even derive from English dialect, chickens were domesticated in Asia, potatoes were domesticated by native Peruvians and brought over from the New World by the Spanish, the ancient Mesopotamians grew leek cultivars, the Romans were eating meatballs before Britain ever existed and the middle easterners were carving steaks for almost as long as cattle's been domesticated.

>>5124030
What a fucking insult.

>>5124030
> pasty
> irish
no
> pasty
> in a bowl
no
> pasty
> in a bowl with stew
NO
> pasty
> knife and fork
NOOOOOOOOO
> pasty
> plastic cheese square on top
FUCKING NOOO
> pasty
> raw onion on top
WHY
> pasty
> with 20% tip
RAGE

just
fucking
go away

>>5124030
Every time I pass through Butte the smell from that damn sulfur pit makes me want to puke.

>>5124121
Greggs gets a lot of shit, but they make some damn tasty pasties.
>Having a steak bake after a good drink
Glorious.

>>5129204
>Putting gravy on top
What a disgusting degenerate.

>>5131732
>ketchup is the only way to go

>>5131797
>It's a big empanada.
Funny how the empanada is a copy of the pasty.

>>5132297
That was the traditional thing to do when they were eaten for a purpose, these days they are usually a single filling per pasty.

>>5132606

>>5132652
>If anything, they've probably gotten better
Yes, going from steak to minced beef and slathering it in ketchup with a slice of American "cheese" is an improvement.

>>5132696
>Pasty Sauce

>>5132702
>mr pasty nazi
The Cornish pasty is protected under EU law to be a specific way.

>>5133906
>To the what?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucca_%28mythological_creature%29

>>5134569
Yeah, I think I will make a steak well done and cover it in ketchup to express just how retarded these American pasties are.

>>5134632
American "sausages" are weird.

>>5134797
Then you really would be a complete idiot.

>>5134652
Why don't you post your recipe and maybe a picture so we can see?

>>5134717
I agree with this guy.

I just love it when the retarded Bongistanians get on and start spouting off about Americans, as if they know what they're talking about. Hilarity ensues.

>>5134800
And make my point perfectly about these abortions you make.

>>5134814
And this is different to Americans talking about burgers how? PS, we are Cornish, not British.

>>5134818
>PS, we are Cornish, not British.

Cornish nationalists are so funny

>>5134818
Cornwall is in England, is it not? You sound like redneck Texans trying to act like Texas is a separate country.

>>5134818
Now, now, let's not start a burger vs. pasty war. We will win just like we did in 1783. Although, I've had some tasty burgers in England.

My grandparents are from Michigan and I have fond memories of eating these every summer. somebody tried to open up a pasty shop in fort worth, Texas (or maybe it was Arlington, I can't remember) and I only got to eat there once before they went out of business.

>>5134818
oh you cheeky little cornish ... things.

>>5121044
Really? I had a delicious Butternut Squash pasty a few weeks ago in a nice cosy pub. I need to make one myself, it was sooo good.

>>5134839
they were an independent kingdom with a different ethnic background (a long long time ago, although for a much longer time than texas), I would accept cornwall and yorkshire people claiming to be something other than english. anyone else can fuck off

>>5134917
So were Mercia and Wessex, no one there goes I'M NOT ENGLISH/BRITISH

>>5134818
Cornwall is in Britain. What you said is the equivalent of "I'm not American, I'm Californian".

>britbongs in dick measuring contest about their tiny, inbred island

>>5134917
All of England was formed of separate kingdoms at one time

>>5134955
Which you probably originated from?

>>5134969
nope, i am Lithuanian, but my BMW was probably come from your depressing country.
Thanks for that.

>>5131841
Shut up, you inbred tyke. Devon = best pasties.

>>5135408
Well, thanks for boosting our economy...

>>5135475
thanks for donating your car and paying for your "insurance." good job sheeple

>>5121094
I would prefer a pasty with gravy, instead of a slice of pie. There's more crust.

>>5121014
My mom made me these when I was little.
Not even trolling, I'd cover them in ketchup. Still do. I love pasty's. If I have horseradish sauce on hand I'll use that instead though.

>>5121014
live in chicago, but my family is from the up, so pasties have been a common staple of my diet when i was growing up. to be honest, i always thought they were kinda bland.

they seem to be pretty unknown outside the UP, but there is a hipster food truck that sells them in chicago and they just ordered their first brick n mortar location a few blocks down the street from me. as you can imagine, they're pretty expensive considering (and not that inspiring either)

any yoopers here ever been to camelrider's restaurant?

best food in the UP, definitely worth it. in the middle of nowhere only accessible by dirt roads. last time i was their had the rack of lamb rare, honestly one of the best meals i've had in my life, and i'm a foodfag who lives in nyc

yooper cuisine is best cuisine. smoked whitefish. venison jerkey. jumbo yellow lake perch. wild blueberries.

the wine they make up there sucks, but the food is fantastic. love that place

Never had a 'pasty'
But back in Moscow we had these things called piroshiki. They're essentially the same(?)
My favorite was the Polish version, with mushrooms and cheese.

>>5137404
pierogis?

absolutely disgusting

>>5121014
Reminds me of a torta.

THE PASTY WAS ACTUALLY INVENTED IN PLYMOUTH AND WAS TAKEN FROM US BY THOSE TROGLODYTE INCESTUAL CELTIC CUNTS ACROSS THE TAMAR

REMOVE CORNISH

>>5137427
Get some fucking taste, faggot.