/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>5099172

>Ketchup on steak

>>5099172
I'd try it, but the "steak" looks overcooked. (probably some mudslime beef chunk)

>>5099172

why don't people have more productive things to do than troll the board with the same shit every day?

>>5099176
Because posting on 4chan is very productive.

>he doesn't like sweetened tomato puree

a lot of middle class uncultured kids that eat their steak exactly like that.

source: my friends are uncultured swine that douse their well done steak in catsup

>>5099172
oh thank god, I thought I was the only one who liked steak this way. Better pack my bags and get to europe.

>>5099238
Get out, you filthy pleb.

Medium rare.

With nothing but the original spices that were put on it before it was cooked.

What exactly is it that's objectively wrong about ketchup?

Or is this the same type of contrarian bullshit like on any other board?

>>5099298

Nothing is objectively wrong with ketchup, but it's wrong to put it on a steak.

>>5099298

It's a strong condiment; it dominates the taste of the steak. So, the theory goes, it's a waste to take a good steak only to cover up its flavor.

>>5099176
>being productive
>on 4chan

TOP KEK M80

>>5099304
Except it's not.

>>5099318

Yes, it fucking is you troll.

>>5099318
>take a $80 steak
>put sugar vinegar tomato sauce on it

WHY

>>5099322
But it's not you faggot.

>implying cheap diner steak is "good on its own"

>>5099324
>all steaks are $80.00

>>5099327

You probably like your steak well done too, faggot. Go back to whatever fast food thread you came from.

>>5099332
>eating inferior cuts as steak

fucking pleb

>>5099333
The term "steak" isn't just one thing you fucking moron. There is a vast difference between a cheap diner steak thrown on the griddle and an aged prime expertly crafted steak.

Quit being a fucking retard.

>>5099172
>Europeans
>English pleb

I like my steak Bleu, and my general gotos (when at home) are tournedos chasseur or steak au poivre. I tend to go for tournedos Rossini whenever I see it, but this usually ends with disappointment.

If I'm in a mediocre restaurant and it doesn't have truffle I resign myself but don't make a fuss. When they exclude foie gras, however, you can't help but wonder what's wrong with the head chef.

>>5099324
>$80

Where does a typical steak cost that much?

>>5099337

>"Hello, I'd like the steak on this diner menu please! Also, could you cover it with something that completely masks the flavor of it, like ketchup? I don't actually want to be able to taste what I'm ordering. Thanks!"

The city of you.

>>5099344

Buy some actual Prime and not select all the time.

Ketchup on steak is just stupid and wrong.

Ranch dressing like a mixed race American patriot.

>>5099356
>typical

Looking at OPs picture it's a shitty cafe. I know perfectly well how much steak costs at a good restaurant, but that's not what we're discussing.

That said, I just realised that $80 is £49, I thought the £ was lower when I made my comment.

>>5099348
Are you retarded?

>go to diner
>want beef, but not burger or salsbury/whatever
>order a steak medium rare
>pretty bland, nice texture
>put some type of sauce on it

Honestly, I love diner steak and eggs. Runny yolk is the best sauce, but hot sauce, A1 57 sauce, ketchup, etc is fine on some bites of it. Just stop being such a faggot.

NO!! YOU'RE RUINING IT WITH KETCHUP!!!!!

>>5099406
I can understand egg and beef. A nice rare beef, seared in butter, with butter friend onions and a fried egg is heavenly. Preferably served on a crouton.

However the vast majority of sauces, especially the factory made varieties, which are almost always incredibly sweet/sour/etc. to mask the poor taste, simply detract. A slightly spicy and rather savoury homemade ketchup, that could go well.

>>5099387
It's obviously in a home, there is a dog crate right behind him

That's how I roll.

>>5099416
>>5099406

Watch this... Worcestershire sauce is available at almost every restaurant, tastes better, and doesn't completely destroy the flavor of the steak.

If you can't appreciate the flavor of meat, you shouldn't be eating in the first place. But if you're absolutely that retarded and have to have some kind of sauce, use Worcestershire.

>>5099420
You're right, didn't look closely enough. Well, then there's no excuse.

Still, going back to the $80 point. How heavy is this steak? I spent quite a while sourcing my meat, and eat a mixture of tenderloin and sirloin, even so the tenderloin is £55/kg. I have a good relationship with the farm, but that only gives me a 15% discount or so.
So if we're saying $80 per steak at home, I'm even more confused.

>>5099427
Worcester is nice. It goes very well with the onions.

I see you neckbeards still haven't grown up. People cater to their own tastes, not yours.

So i've tried cooking steak using the method gordan ramsay has up on youtube.

Seems fine but high heat + butter always ends up with burning butter on the edges and fire alarm going off. Now i've been able to cook it without it smoking up but jesus theirs gotta be a better way to cook steak indoors on a frying pan

>>5099438

You'd be very hard pressed to pay $80 for a steak at home.

At a restaurant? Not hard at all. A good rule a of thumb is that the food cost is about 1/3 the price on the menu, so a steakhouse serving Prime could easily hit $80. If the steakhouse is serving something exceptional like dry-aged or artisan quality beef then it could be higher still.

>>5099438
Went I originally quoted $80 I was referring to a nice steak house steak

Nothing behind it, just pulled it out of my ass. I was making a point as to why you would want to cover up the flavor of something you spend good money on. It's like going to a really nice sushi place and dunking everything into soy sauce. All you end up tasting is a sauce that costs penny's compared to the expensive meat your paying much more to enjoy

>>5099528
>>5099543

Ah okay, then it's all making sense. I wasn't sure if we were talking about restaurants or not.

>thick as fuck cut
>salt and white pepper
>rare

>>5099172
Medium, sometimes with nothing on it, sometimes with a spice rub, sometimes with a blue cheese crust. Usually with a salad and some kind of potato on the side.

>there are people on this board who eat their steaks anything other than rare.

/ck/ is about as good with food as /fa/ is as good with fashion.

>>5099667

You're an idiot, some cuts are fucking awful if you eat them rare.

>>5099172
>How do you like your steak, /ck/?

Medium well because I like food that's cooked.

>>5099172

God I thought that plate was a bunch of napkins or a paper towel.

What a bunch of heathens.

A local place sold steak dinner at 7$.
holy hell, and was it really good.

not the best restaurant but damn.
7$ for a good steak.

in someone else's mouth

>>5099172
>ketchup
BUT WHY

>>5099238
I bet you also bite into Kit-Kats without breaking them apart first, you sick fuck.

>>5099172
Those fries look good.

I have never had steak and ketchup, but I'm not sure what the huge outcry is. There are many, many popular "steak sauce" products that exist. Why aren't people crying about HP or A1?

For that matter, why is it acceptable to put sauce on ribs, brisket, or any meat? Why do you think beef steak is so holy? Is it a vestigial believe passed down from your Depression-era grandparents?

>>5099776
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2236768/New-study-shows-men-think-eating-steak-burgers-bacon-makes-manly.html

This. And yes, it's that fucking sad.

>>5099225
My dear ol mom put "not getting food borne illness" ahead of "delicacy". She always overcooked steak and pork. We needed something a little stronger than the salt, pepper, pad of butter, and pretentious lah-dee-dah that you fucks push on everyone. Only one condiment in the fridge could make it edible: ketchup.

> Wish my mom would have graduated magna cum gargler from Little Lord Fontleroy's Finishing School like you fuckin worldly geniuses

>>5099820
Haha. Having your wife try to roll your ass over when your 65 to wipe your ass and change your bedsheets bevause bacon. And all the fuckin tattoos on your wrinkly old asses. Soooo glad I made it through my youth with 2 earring holes in left ear and broken heart from using power ballads to cheer me up after getting dumped. I thing I did alright. We never got into the tats and bacon thing, that was for faggots and sailors when I was growing up.

>>5099841
Yep. I'm the only person (besides my spouse) I know my age without any tattoos. I'm so glad I didn't fall into that fad when I became the "thing" to do when I was in college. I have a few friends who are starting to see the ugly effects of aging with tattoos. I can't image what these people with giant ear holes, covered in tats, pierced tongues and nipples and faces, etc. are going to look like when they're older. Hilarious. I saw a woman who look like she was in her late fifties / early sixties at the store with a tramp stamp that looked like it was melting into her butt crack. Fucking LOL.

>>5099870
when *it* became the thing to do
LOL
I think my Freudian slip was showing.

>>5099406
>A1
>57 sauce
>Ketchup

Why'd you name two kinds of ketchup and then say ketchup? It's redundant.

>>5099172
Totally untrue. Everyone knows yuropoors put mayo on their steaks (which are made out of horsemeat).

>>5099939

how do you feel about chamomile tea?

>>5099947
The annoying thing is I like horsemeat, you just can't get it in the UK. Why don't they just market horsemeat so I can go to my butcher and get cuts of horse.

>>5099172
You trolls need to be lined up and shot.
England is as European as Ukraine.

>>5099340
You sound like the most pretentious faggot.

>>5100173
So if you aren't a pleb your a pretentious fedora cunt?

>>5100606
>sauce everywhere

Mother of God, why

>>5100644
gotta get dat joos nigga

>>5100606
What are the green things on top

>>5100693
sprigs of rosemary

>>5100695
Forgive my plebetry, but do you eat it?

>>5100708
I cook something like that at work every birthday.

>>5100712
oh shit you mean the rosemary, yeah I eat it, some won't eat it raw though

>>5099172
that's a fucking huge plate of food, how the hell is he ever going to finish that?

>>5100733
by being a man

>>5100733
By mastering perspective.

How does this make you feel?

>>5100520
Where's the motherfucking pork?

>>5102087
Where we're going, we don't need pork.

>>5100746
It astonishes me how can rednecks and their retarded ilk can find their way around the internet. Do you seriously believe manhood is measured by how much can they eat?
>>>/b/
And stay there, white thrash.

>>5102101
Manhood is measured by how raw and bland your steak is.

>>5099172
threads like this makes /b/ look good.

>>5099406
>pretty bland
I have never had a bland steak
m8 are you high

>>5102217
Does this look good?

>>5099526
open both your doors. that's what i do

>>5102242
Are we pretending to enjoy steak more we do because of our masculinity insecurities again?

>>5102248
What do you mean?

>>5102248
Maybe. Are we pretending not to be a whiny faggot?

>>5100693
lol

>>5102254
Men like to pretend to enjoy steak more than they actually do because they have masculinity issues. I usually groan after every bite and make comments about how delicious blue rare is while I eat it.

>>5102266
I've never heard of that. I think you are projecting.

>>5102274
I literally just told you that's why I do it, and it's obvious that's why other men do it too, that's just how it is. Scroll up, there's an article on it.

I want to get this blue rare steak pregnant, it's so good.

>>5102279
>daily mail
you're the only one who does it m8
sorry to burst your bubble, twink

>>5099172
Needs more ketchup and the steak looks undercooked.

>>5102287
greasy neckbeard choking down a raw steak/10

>>5102287
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nadiaarumugam/2012/06/05/the-truth-of-why-manly-men-order-steak-and-wimps-order-salad/

Better?

>>5102319
>>5102266

>pretend

Nothing has inferred pretense, only that eating steaks is perceived as masculine by third parties.

>>5102319
Not really. Red meat tastes better.

Hell, my sister has her meat rarer then I do, so it's not masculinity.

>>5102405
>>5102417
>insecure

>>5102559
You're the one saying 'I'm secure in my masculinity because I eat my meat well done!"

I just like steak. I've never given it any more thought then that. I had never even assigned it any masculine qualities. It's ordering a steak, not a bloody cavalry charge.

>>5102584
This. I find it rather bemusing that there exists a gender security debate surrounding consumption of steak.

How in the world do these pseudo-scientists get funding for their madcap research?

>>5102673
>How in the world do these pseudo-scientists get funding for their madcap research?

Obama

>>5099172
Always medium. Kills bacteria and it still nice and pink.

>>5102417

disagree, i don't like the taste of red meat at all. i love a well-done steak.

i don't understand the love for red meat. it's kind of disgusting.

How does this delicious olive steak make you feel?

>>5099173
You know, people make a big deal about putting ketchup on a steak, like the way other people eat their food has some effect on them personally.

If you don't like it, don't do it.

I don't like ketchup on my steak, or sauce on my brisket, but c'mon, maybe it's time everybody stops worrying about what other people enjoy, it has nothing at all to do with you.

Bloody af

>>5099526
medium-high to high heat (high heat doesn't always mean cooking-on-the-surface-of-the-sun hot)
use a oil not butter, but not alot, just coat the pan.
I flip it often (easier heat distribution, no burned stuff) after the initial searing (for crust)
turn down / remove from heat and add butter
scoop molten butter over the steak
check doneness, return to heat for a bit if not done.

>>5103764
Do you moan while you eat it though? That's essential.

>>5104632
I moan after every bite, and I've actually assaulted someone after a waiter told me a patron asked for ketchup for his steak. The owner gave me a raise afterwords, shit was so cash.

>>5105134
I thought I was the only person who assaults people for eating ketchup, glad I'm not alone.

>>5099526

you need olive oil in the pan before you add the butter otherwise the butter is just going to burn

>>5102031
hungry

>>5099173
>not putting ketchup on your steak

>>5099322
>someone has a different opinion than me or doesn't agree with the hivemind

HURRR MUST BE A TROLL

>>5105974
But steak is so manly, you need to attack cows while they're still roaming to have the best possible steak.

That fine gentleman is from my home town. Noice.
We're not European though. And we're not a homogenous mass; I eat my steaks properly.

i put steaks into those jack daniel's marinade pouches, and let them sit for 2-3 days so the meat absorbs as much flavor as possible.

when the steak is cooked, its so bursting with sweetness and flavor that there's no need for any sauce.

>>5099176
its like you are new

>>5099425
10/10

>>5107518
That's a 10/10 meal to you? It looks trailer park-tier.

>>5107846
You say that like those two things are mutually exclusive. Good food can come from anywhere.

>>5107982
Tell that to the British.

>>5108214
#SHOTS FIRED #THE BRITISH ARE COMING #ONE IF BY LAND BITCH

>>5108224
What are they going to do? Bite me with their gross teeth?

>>5099172
Well done
I love the actual meaty taste you get, I once has a medium steak and it was just really soft and squidgey and pretty tasteless

>>5099425
>mfw the inside of your steak looks like vagina
>mfw the rest of your food is delicious too

>>5099172
how disappointing. i thought they had more class then that. i suck! but still i only ever eat steak with a homemade sauce using carrot juice onions meat juice and other spices. im not even classy

>>5108815
They might ignore you or make fun of you.

>>5099174
You're a fucking moron.

>>5109367
>Europe
>class

I lol'd.

>>5103431
>You know, people make a big deal about putting ketchup on a steak, like the way other people eat their food has some effect on them personally.

FUCK YOU

>>5109673
>orchestral music
>founders of fine dining
>leaders of fashion (Milan)
>most of the best wines are from France, Germany
...

>>5109718
Nothing says classy like this.

>>5109797

Scotland lol

>>5109797
>disrespecting the munchy box

For shame!

>>5109718

>>5109802
What are the red things?

>>5109819
>>5109718
>Google search "class"
>kids in school
>some guys in tuxedos

What exactly are you trying to prove with those images? I understand you're trying to say Europe is "classier" than the US, but that is the laziest, most piss-poor way of doing it.

euro hotties are automatically classified as having class just by being a hottie. all other euros smell like spotted dick and burnt hash

>>5109797
Oh god, what are the red things? Do I even want to know?

>>5099172
Ketchup? Seriously where the hell in Europe are you? The two most common sauces are pepper and standard cream

>>5099526
i don't understand why people have fire alarms in their kitchen really. Some foods will just smoke quite a bit. A firealarm seems to be asking for trouble.

Of course, I don't think I've ever seen a single apartment with a firealarm ever so...

That's how i ate it this christmas. This is Rossini, plebs. Learn some real cuisine before posting your digusting pics.

>>5111590
What are the black things?

>>5112166
The black spot

>>5112166

Truffles.

>>5111560
Fire Code in most places because around fifty percent of structure fires start in the kitchen or even higher percentage if you just mean apartments.

>>5099172
God.
Tier.

>>5109797
The hell is this?

>>5112457
It's called a munchie box, it's a fine European delicacy.

Oh my...

my mother cooked one into oblivion tonight, i think i'll cook my own steak in the future.
pic related, my steak, chips and eggs

>>5113318
i mean, how i cook steak chips and eggs

she cooked the meat grey the whole way through, it was barely edible with a lot of spices

Well done because i don't like to eat raw things like a Neanderthal.
Don't give a fuck about "muh taste muh moist muh flavour"

>>5109367
You have to understand, different regions have different levels of class. This man is from the traditionally working class town of Wigan, he is probably a hard-working man who is evidently proud of his town and it's rugby league team. I imagine after a hard day of work, all he wants is a simple, high-calorie meal to satisfy his hunger.
This sentiment is eloquently expressed by this comic-folk group from a neighbouring town with a similar history and culture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXIIOozLXyU

All these fucking Americans thinking my country is homogenous, let alone the entirety of Europe.

>>5113347
Europe is full of classless scumbags, deal with it.

>>5099172
>This is how Europeans like their steak.
Which country? Not this one.

>>5114005
It's full of every variety of people that any other part of the world is. You're not special. Nor are they.

>>5114043
Mostly Indians though. They get liquor sales banned yet?

>>5099173
>hetookthebait.jpg

>>5112487
>Scots are European
>American education

>>5099825
>magna cum gargler
>my sides

>>5115562
>Mostly Indians though
Isn't the US 50% black/ Mexican?

>>5107846
new record, /ck/s most unjustly high-and-mighty

>>5112166
mold

>>5107846
You post trailer park-tier.

>>5115574
Nope.

>>5115653
>79%
No shit, you're holding out pretty well.
Although they include Hispanics in the percentage of whites, which would mean 65% real Eurpoean whites.

>>5099599

white pepper? why?

And not why as is "does it make it taste different? does it bring out some natural bullshit flavor?"

Why as in why the fuck

>>5099172
>Britfag
>European

Medium-rare German masterrace here, get your fucking nationalities right.

Also try garlic butter, it is goat on steak.

>>5099172
Yuropoors are disgusting holy fuck