/ck/ - Food & Cooking

What even the fuck are you talking about

Don't you have a containment thread anyway?

>>4987
The same that happened with Nick and Legend of Korra.

>>4987
SU makes no money so they want to burn it off and tell the higher ups that the show gets no ratings while refusing to admit to leaks so they can bump it off and start giving the money to a kids show that'll actually give back some revenue than an internet fan service show to a bunch of Tumblrinas who like to pirate and buy unofficial shit on Etsy.

Just watched the episode

Literally Storm in the Room 2

>>4990
>It doesn't make money
Why the fuck did they fund a full price console video game?

>SU is getting close to being buried and forgotten thanks to the TTG channel.

Thank Christ.

>>4992
>full price
that's just a meme, they do that to hire amateurs and keep most of the money

>>4987
Considering SU is incredibly shitty I wouldn't be surprised if they were trying to kill it

>>4994
They're making a 3D several hour long RPG. That shit isn't cheap at all. If the franchise didn't make money they would just keep releasing android games. Shit, the devs themselves are pretty forward with the fact that they got the budget because the first game sold really fucking well.

>>4996
Because VIDEO GAMES sell, anon. Especially RPGs. Not Steven Universe specifically. The game could have been reskinned with entirely new characters and it would've been a hit on Steam Greenlight regardless.

>>4996
>it isn't cheap
it's literally no different than the shovelware wayforward keeps shitting out

>>4997
>Especially RPGs.
>A genre that basically died a decade ago and is only now clawing its way back out of the cesspool, and even then mostly via big Japanese releases that play nothing like what the SU RPGs do.
>The game is literally the studio's biggest game to date and is entirely being funded because it's a TV show with a following rather than some other IP.

Keep reaching.
This game wouldn't exist if the previous Steven Universe game didn't make money. It was in the top five paid apps for like a month and held #1 and 2 for about a week, for fuck's sake.

>>4997
Where the fuck is my Regular Show RPG?

>>4999
It's the Paper Mario/Mario RPG sequel we always wanted that Nintendo refuses to give us

>>4999
>Final Fantasy
>Undertale
>Dark Souls
>Divinity Original Sin
>Thinking these don't sell well.

Even games with RPG-like mecahnics like Deus Ex fly off the shelves because people love skill trees and upgrading. Even motherfucking DeathSpank, a nothing franchise, got two sequels.

>>4987
On Demand services often receive episodes in advance, and for most VoD services, security is ranging from "lacking" to "nonexistent". Also, all kind of faults happen due to monkeycode and incompetence.

This is how Misseps leaked SU: he found a way to download unreleased episodes. Sometimes you don't even have to do that, because the episodes are "released" due to bugs or mistakes on operators side.

>>4999
>>5001
This, it's literally riding on the success of Paper Mario + Mario & Luigi RPG while taking advantage of the fact that Nintendo has thrown those series in the garbage. It's like how the newest Resident Evil is riding hard on P.T. since Silent Hills is gone now considering their last batches of RE games fucking tanked.

>>5002
>Two big budget Japanese productions, neither of which plays like SU's games at this point
>A completely different genre of game from the SU games
>And a fluke meme game that barely plays like the SU games

Damn, you sure showed me when I literally just said that the successful ones are mostly big releases from Japan that don't play like the SU games.

>Even games with RPG-like mecahnics like Deus Ex fly off the shelves because people love skill trees and upgrading.
They don't buy games because of them, but it is a great marketing point because casual gamers think it adds depth without making them actually think about shit, yes.

>Even motherfucking DeathSpank, a nothing franchise, got two sequels.
>EA game was milked to every last drop
Yes, one of the biggest game publishers in the world can afford to push out multiple iterations of a game that didn't do very well in order to profit off it in the end. That doesn't really have anything to do with...well, anything. Mirror's Edge was several times more successful and it took nearly a decade for it to get a sequel. Radiant Historia did well for Atlus, and they're only now making a remake instead of a sequel despite it being an RPG. Your comparisons are silly and nonsensical. You're performing mental gymnastics to arrive at your preconceived notion.

This game wouldn't exist if the first didn't sell well. Go ask the devs. Then go ask them how their other games sold.

>>5003

Doe that mean it's possible to get this without the idiot talking in the background?

Because if we can, we've got work to do if we want to get this before CN takes it down.

>>5005
>>4999
What do we define as an RPG? Skyrim was insanely successful, Dark Souls was successful, the newest Zelda, Lisa: The Painful, Horizon, Witcher, Mass Effect, Persona, Dragon Age, Diablo...

>>5005
Repeating: >>5004
Because you're dense.

This game was not successful because of Steven, it was successful because of Paper Mario and Nintendo's ineptitude.

>>5007
You're not going to listen, are you?
No matter how many times I point out that it's big budget RPGs that have come back into flourishing, you're going to keep giving me big budget examples with maybe one exception per post.

>>4997

>Turn based JRPG-inspired RPGS sell
>2017

You're confused RPGs* like fallout 4 and Skyrim sell.
*FPS/Action games

>>5004
>while taking advantage of the fact that Nintendo has thrown Paper Mario in the garbage.
Fixed. Mario & Luigi's been pretty consistent.
But yeah, the fact that it's basically Classic Paper Mario while not being as crude as Stick of Truth is something in the game's favor.

>>5009
I don't care about Steven Universe, but you said the RPG genre was dead for a while. I don't think that's been the case

>>5002

Final Fantasy XV and XIII tanked
Undertale was a fluke made by one dude on a shoestring budget
Dark Souls is an action RPG and is still niche as fuck compared to something like skyrim/fallout
I've never even heard of divinity.

>>5008
I'm not arguing that the Paper Mario inspired gameplay isn't a factor. I'm arguing with this retard who's saying that being an RPG inherently gives it a boost.

The first game sold because it was a cute but competent little game at a low price based on a then-hot commodity. Even then, that has absolutely nothing to do with what started this whole silly argument in the first place; the sequel is only coming out because the first made bank. To say the series doesn't make money when it made enough money for them to double down on their investment in games based on it is an oxymoron. Whether you think it's of its own merit that it made that money is beside the point.

>>5006

> idiot

the dude is like 9 lmao

>>5008
counterpoint: most of the kids who played and loved the SU game don't even know about the first 2 paper mario games

>>5013
>XV
>tanked in any way shape or form

go away /v/

>>5012
07-11 had it struck dead as fuck while the shooter genre took over the market, and RPGs in the vein of Attack the Light have struggled outside of handhelds up from around 07 to just a few years ago. Even upon the relative resurgence a few years ago, most of the high selling "rpgs" weren't story or roleplaying focused games at all, just action titles with stat or customization elements and big environments that called themselves "RPG-like/inspired/hybrids" and other such things.

RPGs haven't dominated the market since the PS1 days, and their presence hasn't recovered to the levels they were at back in the PS2 era either.

>>5018
only on consoles - most RPGs migrated to handhelds

also, shooters aren't eating into the JRPG market - smartphone gatcha games are.

>>5014
Just because a single aspect of Steven Universe makes money doesn't mean shit for every other aspect of their merchandising. At this point, Attack of the Light 2 is just CN trying to recoup their losses for whatever money they've poured into SU which they probably thought was going to be their next AT.

The fact that fucking Magiswords and TTG also have successful mobile games just means that games fucking sell, and the property it's based on is just a way for people to notice it among the sea of apps.

Does SU's brand name sell merch on the same level that AT used to? With figurines? Buttons? Hats? Clothing? Stickers? Are you going to walk into a Forbidden Planet-esque shop and see a bunch of SU stuff on shelves outside of some Funkos and maybe a comic? No? Then it doesn't fucking sell.

>>5017

Tanked was NOT the right word, I was gonna post a addendum, but the game's reception was lukewarm at the very best and it's an ARPG anyway so it's irrelevant at best and makes my point that turn-based RPG are culturally irrelevant at worst given that THE turn-based RPG is now action-oriented.

>>5016
Rebuttal, where are you getting those numbers or facts?

>>5022
the fact that most of the people who downloaded the fucking game are under the age of 12?

>>5020
My GF is at substitute teacher and has seen multiple children drawing SU characters which really surprised me. I think SU has a bigger draw for kids than /co/ gives it credit for.

>>5021
Then why bring it up numbnuts?

I think you're just pulling everything you post out of your fucking ass.

JRPGs aren't RPGs.

>>5023
>Posts no source
That still would not prove dick for the fact that kids have not played the earlier games considering Paper Mario 1 is still available on WiiShop and a new Paper Mario has just recently come out and kids have incredibly easy access to find out about early entries in the series.

I was fucking pirating shit at 10, dude.

>>5025

Because the post I responded to specifically mentioned Final Fantasy and those are the most recent entries in the franchise? You complete buffoon.

>>5020

The SU Funko POPs were a pain in the ass to get (They were first released in November 2015) and had resale prices comparable to chases and some con-exclusives until Hot Topic got a restock of the first wave and a GITD variant of Steven around this time last year.

>>4990
>>4992
>>4994
>>4996
ITS A BAIT YOU IDIOT

>>5006
Only if the haven't taken it down yet, and you have access to whatever VoD that leaked it.

>>5006
Problem is the leak is from the leaf country.

>>5028
said the guy who claims that FF XV tanked

>>4992
uhh there's an SU rpg in the works? oh damn. anyone got some deets?

>>5027
the numbers of eshop sales shows that most of those who downloaded the first two paper mario games are in the mid 20s to 30s range, and is dwarfed by those playing attack the light.

>>5033

Says the guy who doesn't have the reading comprehension skills to follow a string of comments on 4chan.

>>5031
>>5032
>

Goddamn it, I knew it was too good be true...

>>5035

That has everything to do with availability, basically everybody in the US has a smartphone or tablet, compare that to how many have a DS.

Save the Light won't do as good as the last Paper Mario/Mario & Luigi game, I think that's a given.

>>5038
I'm sure nintendo made a bigger profit and did remarkably well, but no - attack the light actually has higher numbers

>>4987
Somebody give me the low down please

>>4990

Didn't they just renew it for another season? Why renew it if they just want to kill it?

>>5034

It's Attack the Light 2: Save the Light. There's been screenshots floating around for a while now, bro.

Google that shit.

>>5036
says the guy covering his ass after being called out

>>5013
Bravely Default sells like gangbusters, as does pokemon and SMT games. FF15 was a massive success, as was undertale so I'm not sure what your point is? RPGs, J or otherwise, have a significant loyal audience.

Believe it or not Squeenix has a better market research department than you do, so when they stop dumping cash into turn based RPGs you might actually have a case. Atm you're just speaking out of your ass.

>>4993
Why is that a good thing?

>>5042
I want the real shit though, that underground stuff. The real newz, ya dig?
don't u fukin tell me to google it u fukin reprobate

>>4987
theres 8 threads of SU right now
fucking stop

>>4987
The episode was scheduled to air, and then CN changed their minds at the last second.
Comcast didn't get the memo, and put up the VoD as originally scheduled

>>5044

Don't forget Kingdom Hearts.

So wait

Not only did CN leak the damnable thing

But it sucks and absolutely nothing new is introduced other than that if Rose and Greg had a girl they'd have named her Nora?

For fucks sake, DO SOMETHING

>>4993
Kill by sudoku

Since this questions gave me so many (You)s in the other SU thread, might as well put it here too

>I always hear how the Gem Homeworld is the greatest fictional alien species and how they could glass this planet if the wanted to, so how can the earth win?

>What's stopping homeworld from glassing the planet the moment things don't go their way? What's stopping homeworld from glassing the planets if they lose? What's stopping homeworld from glassing the planet later just for revenge?

>The answer is fucking nothing, so i don't think earth will win by force of arms

Having said that, yes, i know saying gem homeworld is the greatest is retarded, but that's what everyone in SU says, i just wanted to know conspiracy teories for the finale that you might had that answers the "Glassing" questions

>>5018

>Spotted the guy whose first "RPG" was FF7.

Now you have to drop your Sephiroth wallpaper.

>>5024

>GF
>SU draws anyone outside of tumblr and the closet-cases who shit up this board

GTFO SUGAR WE ARE ONTO YOU

For some reason, I don't believe SU should garner this much attention one way or the other.

>>5050
It was a big pile of nothing, but at least Steven's finally come to terms with the fact that Rose had him because she wanted him to exist. Not for some grand destiny of some sort, but to live for himself.

>>5052

One option would be that Homeworld wants the planet for one reason or another, necessitating a conventional invasion.

Another option would be Steven having to go into space and stop the Diamonds from glassing the planet.

I hope they do the former.

Can someone whose seen the leak give me a quick rundown?

>>4990
>so they can bump it off and start giving the money to a kids show that'll actually give back some revenue

So more reruns of TTG

>>5058

Here's the rundown

>Starts with Steven watching Rose's video. Rewinds it constantly during her message to Steven to find hints about what his magical destiny is.
>Lion spits up a big pink key.
>Steven tries it on the chest on Rose's Island, nothing.
>Steven tries using it on various other Rose-based locations. Her armor collection. The healing fountain. Rose's Room. Nothing to unlock there.
>He begs Lion for help. Where did you get this key, Lion? Take me there!
>Lion takes Steven to the desert where they first met. They travel for hours until they finally reach a big decaying structure with some pink pillars sticking out of the ground. In the center: A lock. He uses the key and behind the door... A room full of garbage.
>Frustrated Steven kicks the garbage around and finds a tape labelled "NORA".
>Steven begs Lion one more time: Take me somewhere to understand this tape!
>Lion takes him to Greg where they both watch the tape.
>It's the exact same tape Rose made for Steven, but replace all the names of "Steven" with "Nora".
>Upset Steven asks for an explanation for this. Who is Nora? What is my magical destiny? Why is this tape telling me nothing?
>Greg explains they narrowed it down to two names: Steven if he was a boy and Nora if he was a girl.
>They finish watching the tape with Rose gushing over how great humans are and Greg gives a speech that lets Steven come to the conclusion that his magical destiny is being Rose's Kid and he's O-K with that. Oh and he cries the entire time this happens.

Credits to the other anon that saw it

>>5001
Fucking tell me about it.

Attack the Light scratched an itch that's been up my ass for fucking ages.

>>5008
Well no. Do you honestly think it's less likely people were drawn to the game because of the branding than the gameplay which they wouldn't even know about unless they were around people who talked about the brand in the first place? It feels like you're reaching for just about ANY reason to attribute the game's success to anything but Steven Universe.

>>5060
well that's FUCKING retarded
but thank you

>>5060
Yeah nah I'm done. This show is irredeemable

>>5057

YD just wants that planet to fucking die already, its going to be the second option im afraid

>>5002
>because people love skill trees
DID YOU HEARD THAT, BLIZZARD?

>>5063

I'm just about at that point

Of course, I've been just about at that point for a couple episodes now

Room for Ruby eased it off a little, but not much

I mean Goddamn, the one chance you have to salvage this string of shitty episodes and you still manage to fuck it all to hell

>>5066

All we do is rehash the same episodes over and over and over and over and over

> Steven has mom issues
> Pearl is still bitter about Rose
> Amethyst has self-worth issues
> Garnet is FUSION FUSION DID I MENTION THAT I'M A FUSION TODAY WELL I AM
> Peridot has autism, is "learning the ways of Earth"
> Lapis is depressed
> Lars is an asshole but really just wants loooooove
> Ronaldo is a greasy pathetic manchild


OVER
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> the 'Leak' Shit
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzoqlqTNMXr5bzR5OXUtWml0NVU/view

>The twist is literally "If it's a boy, Shinji. If it's a girl, then Rei."

>>5069

Except that actually had some emotional weight to swing

This is just retarded

As retarded as it would be, having Nora show up and be Steven's secret sister (despite making absolutely no sense internally) would at least add something to the show, something unexpected and new. It might be good, or it might be complete and utter shit that tanks the show, but at least it would be SOMETHING

>>5069
>Gee, I wonder what anime I will rip-off this week...

>>5067
>Ronaldo
have him be the hero this series deserves.

>>5069
>>5071
>"Except that actually had some emotional weight to swing"

true: it was "The austic mute girl who looks like your mom is the name they wanted for you if you were a girl"

>oh btw that girl is sort of your alien-half-sister-mom-clone thing, who's been repeatedly cloned and shit and will now turn you into TANG

>>4990
>SU makes no money

What, did Sug say no merchandise allowed or something?

Usually Cartoon Network is TERRIBLE at merchandising their shows. You can't just stick a few shirts in Hot Topic and call it a day. They have only themselves to blame for a lack of merchandising ideas.

>>5075

To be fair, the last time they went with a toy company other than Funko it ended badly. Do I need to remind people about Regular Show's toy line by Jakks?

>>5060
So this was a clickbait episode? I hope everyone see the leak, so the ratings of this episode crash

>>4987

You know what? I'm glad that I (or we, if more people share the same thoughts as me) got to watch it now and be done with it, instead of waiting for the unpredictable hiatus to end and discover it's a somewhat unfulfilling episode that probably wasn't fucking worth the wait

>>5060
this was pretty sweet. I just wish Steven's voice was so annoying to listen to.

>>5052
Crystal G's go full arab on those mineral fuckers

allah akubara

>>5000
With pops In heaven. jolly good show.

>>5076
That's still marketing and merchandising departments fail.

The thing with SU, you need some unique merch to get the bucks rolling in. The kids WANT the stuff. It'd be goddamned easy to make something cool.

Funkos are safe. Even though I hate them, they'd sell decently. Action figures wouldn't work out too well. They'd be better making on-character statues/dioramas.

Clothing line is like a no-brainer. Steven star shirts, SU themed socks. Could also go Venture Bros style and have a shirt club with one time shirts. Gem candy.

Educational gem growing kit? Idk. There's things that could be done.

>no terror tales of the park this year
> no thanksgiving special
> no Christmas special
> no ninth season

>>5083
cont.
but SU is still on tv.

Take this /sug/ shit off to fucking >>>/trash/
MODS
O
D
S

>>5082

There were a few things that were shown at last year's New York Toy Fair that some folks would've gone gaga over, the most notable being foam versions of Garnet's gauntlets and Steven's shield. The main issue is that, as far as I know, those never saw the light of day.

>Educational gem growing kit?

I never see those outside of science museums and occasionally Target, the fact that you can only pull off the look of certain Gems (Pearl would be hard to do) with 'em due the crystalline structure of the crystals in question.

>Funkos are safe. Even though I hate them, they'd sell decently.

Agreed, I remember how hard it was to get a set of the first wave when they came out. Bloody scalpers...

>>5067
Connie and Greg will save the show

>>5085
Fuck off faggot, we're discussing a specific episode

>>5088

Not to mention that the stickies have only been about the General.

>>4990
That would make sense if the show wasn't just renewed...

>>4987
is there a link to the video or is it not going to be up?

>>5091
All we have this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWg68hM8fQ0
We're going to have a low quality version with a squeaker talking in the background until someone makes a higher quality rip of it

I want to believe the reason SU gets leaked so often is that someone on the crew understands how poorly the show is paced, and how much the constant hiatuses exacerbate the problem. Leaking the show is their attempt to right the ship in some small way.

Can someone explain to me why people hate this episode? I actually really liked it. It was basically Storm in the Room with all of the problems fixed. Are people really disappointed that Rose isn't a mustache twiddling supervillain or something? Isn't a well intentioned and genuinely compassionate war criminal a more interesting character? And this "maybe I wasn't created to be a weapon or to fulfill a magical destiny" realization was something Steven really needed at this point.

This episode actually made Storm in the Room important, since it calls on stevens feelings which were established in that episode.

This episode referenced the chest in lions mane in a way that explained that the reason we don't know whats inside it yet is because steven can't open it, meaning it WILL be brought up again eventually.

Greg was GOAT

Steven's feelings were genuine in this episode, unlike some times when I feel like his newfound outbursts of frustration are OOC or uncalled for, this time I really felt with him.

This episode, in the first time in a LONG time, actually didn't feel like it was over too soon, if you told me after watching it this was a 22 minute episode and I hadn't checked, I may have believed you.

For fucks sake, the only real nitpick I can think of is that the "twist" of it just being stevens "if born a girl" name was pretty predictable IMHO, but that didn't lessen my enjoyment of it.

Yeah, I'll admit it was less Lion 4 than Storm in the Room 2, but it was Storm in the room with all the problems fixed and written in an engaging and competent way.

Tl;Dr This episode was GOAT and anyone who doesn't like it should kys.

>>5094
>All that shit

Yeah, okay man, its great that you can find some enjoyment out of it

Good for you

>>4999
>RPGs died and are barely crawling back into popularity

Surely you didn't actually mean this

>>5095
Its not that I "found some enjoyment out of it" I legitimately don't understand what everyone's problem is with it, unless you people are so obsessed with lore that just because there wasn't some big revelation automatically makes it a bad episode.

>>5094
What I took away from this is that this episode may be soft confirmation that Steven won't be the one to take down the diamonds, that it may be the gems or Connie

>>5098
what? How?
Just because its basically confirmed he wasn't created for the sole purpose to do so?

>>5094
it's fucking nothing

>>5094
It's like us, the audience, literally became Steven in this episode. He too went to the chest first like we would probably do as well and extremely frustrated when there were no answers to look for. The only difference is that we don't have a cool dad like Greg who tells us it's okay to be just a kid while we're left frustrated after all.

Personally I thought the episode was okay. No mind shattering stuff (although Pink Diamond's ship could be possible foreshadowing) which I was honestly expecting a bit with a title like that, but it was still cute. Also the animation looked good again at the very least.

>>5095
if that was a giant post calling the episode shit you know there would be fifty people going "ha ha yeah steven CRIES"

>>5094
You want the truth? Because it's hard to care by now. I don't care about Steven's feelings on the past anymore. I don't care about Rose's time on earth. I don't care about magical gem mysteries left behind.
The show has had ample time to deal with all of these and winking to the audience to tell us that it will pay off when so little has come of it all is worthless. Steven needs to learn to be himself and act free of his supposed destiny? We've been here before, and I'll bet a shitload of money that we'll be back for several more entire episodes

where do watch?

>>5099
The idea that Steven wasn't made for a "magical destiny" seems like an out for Steven to not kill anybody like Sugar wants

>>5105
If you're talking about "not killing anyone" as in a finding a non violent solution, I don't see what that has to do with anything

If you're talking about "steven not killing anyone" as in someone else resolves the conflict with the diamonds, I find it VERY hard to believe they will go in that direction.

>>4987
>/co/ don't like SU
>CN don't like SU
>episode leaked is shit
How /su/ can even exist?
pic related

>>5107
Just watched the episode and it was great, one of the best in recent memories.

>>5106
That's true, perhaps it just has to do with my desires to see any of the other characters do anything of note

I'll admit, I was somewhat invested in SU, mostly because of the tidbits of lore here and there, thinking that it would be going somewhere. Boy was I wrong. Really, this show is nothing but a mobius strip of weak plotlines with a care bear tier message repeated by a pussy. Characters became flanderized, townie episodes became too frequent, and the show is so far up its own ass that I dont blame CN for trying to sabotage it. About the only ok thing in recent memory on the show was fucking Carl

>>5094
>Tl;Dr This episode was GOAT and anyone who doesn't like it should kys.
>this is how desperate is /su/
> " I actually really liked it. It was basically Storm in the Room with all of the problems fixed"
>i love rehashed episodes
there is no hope for /su/ , they like Simpson 23S tier episodes.

>Steven will beg, cry and maybe sing at the diamonds in order to stop them from raping the Earth
>they are almost GUARANTEED to go "oh ok Rose 2.0" and fuck off/become friends with him because PFFFFFBTBTBUJTSBDFJSDG

>>5075
Kids don't want to play with lesbian action figures

>>5112
wow there is crying and singing in steven universe gee i haven't heard that observation before in the past four years

>>5112
at this point the only way for the show to be salvaged is for Steven to die

>>4987
Maybe they just don't give a shit anymore.

>>5116
>show ends with steven and company sitting on a beach watching as homeworld activates their superweapon and destroys the planet set to soft ukelele
I'd watch that

>>5112
I'm just waiting for the episode that reveals singing is like some super important part of Gem culture/biology.
Singing resonates their stones and gives them pleasure or something.

>>5060
>Mom, what is my density?!
>To be my son.
>Oh.

>>5065
Their cash machines are making too much money. They can't hear you.

>>5116
Yeah , fuck this
I am out , never gonna go to /su/ again
S4 was the last straw

>>5112
As much as I get SU is all about "love and understanding" and will most likely end with a big song that saves the universe, I wished that there was more punching and laser beams


But alas, the constant hiatus killed my hype and I went back to anime and its 20 shows of varying quality every three months

>>5052
what'll end up happening obviously is that steven somehow convinces homeworld not to fuck them all up, and/or kills/incapacitates the diamonds.

I don't think there's gonna be a full scale war, I think the CGs will end up meeting with the diamonds, some sort of parley or something maybe.

We'll have one big fight where homeworld is fended off, then we'll timeskip to Steven and Connie getting married, they'll have babies which go on to bring peace between humans and gems.

>>5121
>I wished that there was more punching and laser beams
I've been out of the loop for a bit more than a year, but has any Gem ever, you know, shot a laser blast from their (light-projecting) gem? I'd been expecting that to happen, but as far as I recall it never did. And then when I thought about it I remembered that I'd just seen it happen in a different show!

Bad time for the episode to come out, SJ has everyone thirsting for blood

hey guys wait just a fuck. A lot of people are saying this episode proves that steven was made with minumal planning or purpose, but what if I told you there was evidence to the contrary?


We all assumed this episode confirmed that rose never had other children besides Steven, but did it really? We know Rose has taken many human lovers, what if it IS possible for rose to have a child without passing on her gemstone. What if she has done it before but wasn't satisfied with that. She DID want the gem human Hybrid.

We've seen plenty of evidence that rose was working on organic/hardlight fusions. We've seen multiple times that she collected gem shards, her flowers have gemstones in them, the lions, the lizard lion was eating in Lion 2. It had an organic body that didn't disappear when it was killed, but it also had gemstones on its body. And in this episode, we saw that exact kind of lizard again.

>>5123
I think you mean Lion will turn into Pink Diamond and marry Steven.
That one episode where Connie and Steven discussed the ending to that book series was foreshadowing.

>>5124
Actually, come to think of it, THIS is what I was hoping to see. Just once I would have liked to see Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl go all-out and remind us why they deserve to be known as protectors of an entire planet.

I think my expectations were set a bit wrong.

>>4987
Hopefully, intentionally trying to kill it off.

>>5097
>>5102

Alright, fine

I don't care about steven or steven's feelings anymore, not in the least

Its been way to fucking long already, 120+ episode of steven's feelings, and really its the same thing over and over again but "With a small twist" to make it justifiable, like right now, all that shit could have happen in storm in the room, shit, one could argue that shit could have been done just with the final scene in Lion 3 episode. And sure, one could take small bites at his and everybody's problems and slowly overcome it, but it doesn't do that, it LICKS at its problems and it takes forever to get to something concrete, its never real change, its IMPLIED change, its solved until next episode where its not becouse there's a new "Twist" to cover

When the show isn't running in circles, like when this kind episodes happen, then its just running in place, where things like room for ruby happen, where nothing really does happen in the episode besides implied change (Steven learns to not trust his enemies all the time and being less naive, until the next episode were he trust his enemies and its naive) and the "Twist" at the end where she stole the ship "WHAT A TWIST! NOW ITS TOTALLY IMPORTANT GUYS! THIS WASN'T WASTED TIME AT ALL! WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW I WONDER?" and its implied that interesting things will happen later on, but we all now the track record of this show and payoff

Cont 1/2

>>5130

2/2

All the "Lore" episodes are always buildup for the next, like it will be interesting when they use those implied things they setup, like with the Zoo episodes, what exactly happend in those really? Just a bunch of implications about the Diamonds andt heir plan to wait for earth to explode and if that doesn't work they MIGHT do something, but not right now, at worst they will actually do something about in the next 30 or 40 episodes. We now know about the Zoo and the implication that PD care about humans to some extent and that most of the Zookeepers were cool people willing to help

The problem with all of that is that its all setup for future episodes to come, little really happen for the characters, setting and story that wasn't, again, implied, its a lot of cools stuff we are waiting to see in actiont and by being misterious and not quite clear they are implying they might make something cool with it later, but they won't, becose they don't know how

And like that its everything "Lore" related, a small bit of information building up into something that by all means should be cool, but its never cool

And that's why im sad about this show, they have all the pieces to make something memorable and great, but they either do nothing with them or just don't know how to put them together in a way that's interesting

There's more problems with the show, there's a lot more to be honest, but those are the problems with the this kind of episodes, the "Feeling episodes" and the "A dash of lore" moments

>>5052
If they glass the planet they might kill or aggro the incubating Clutster.

That's my take on it.

>>5125
SU has been it's own thing

But the constant breaks killed it

Watched the episode
It was disappointing considering how the other Lion titled episodes set up important backstories and lore.

Sincerely disappointed/10

>>5130
>>5131
we all already know that sugar is a hack and that the show runs on tons of build up with no payoff

>>5067
Is there really nothing more to the characters than this? This shit is sad.

>>5112
screencap this just in case this actually happens.

>>5092
thanks mate

>>5067
Jasper will make Steven Universe great again

Its a marketing strategy.
Leak the episode early, create buzz, get more viewers.

>>5140
the last time they leaked episodes early the actual airing got very low views

>>5140
That has never actually worked in practice

>>5116
This shit could be easily photoshopped. Right?

>>5140
It's the exact opposite. Forces within Cartoon Network are trying to kill the show, and they're seemingly at odds with opposing elements who feel there's still more money to be squeezed from it.

>>5139
If they bring Jasper back, they're just going to ruin her by shoving the magic of crying and singing down her throat and rob her of everything that made her a dynamic and interesting character.

>>5143
It's not like it's major spoilers anyways. The only thing it hints at that I was unsure about was if the corrupted gems were going to be left corrupted or get healed. If you were expecting some edgy shit as an ending for a show about crying and singing and forgiveness then you're the stupid one.

>>5140
>leak our newest episode of failing series
>have prepubescent kid leak it on youtube for authenticity
>profit???

Of all the aspects of "tumblr style" writing I hate, there are none I hate more than "suddenly switching to allcaps in the MIDDLE OF A SENTENCE" and "everything is a panciked question?!?!"

>>5148

Most tumblrinas have crippling anxiety issues. Everything makes them frantic and confused.

>>4987
>>5092
If it was an OnDemand thing why didn't this person FUCKING SET UP A TRIPOD OR EVEN LEAN THE CAMERA UP AGAINST SOMETHING SECURE BEFORE RECORDING

>>5148
explain?

>>5151
Anon's just bitching and moaning for the sake of bitching and moaning. Ignore it.

>>5152
ah, I figured as much

>>5149
And yet they're not the ones having meltdowns over how people write on Tumblr.

>>5045
Because it's shit

>>5154
That's because tumblr worships the fuck out of this show.

>>5154
You clearly haven't been to tumblr.

Wise of you.

>>5146
I'm not expecting that. More like the chances of Rebecca casually replying feels like someone could easily shop this. But like you said it's not too spoilery so it might as well be real.

>>5139
>Jasper will make Steven Universe great again
https://soundgasm.net/u/Oolay-Tiger/Jasper-Goes-Native-Steven-Universe-18

>>4999

i agree with you except for

>>A genre that basically died a decade ago and is only now clawing its way back out of the cesspool

RPGs have never stopped being popular

>>5116
>Grand finale is that everyone shares their feelings, has a good, healthy cry, and then sits on the beach.
Okay, but then when do we get the villain who dates one of the girls and betrays her and it turns out he's Steven's evil twin?

In all honesty we've been going on for a while and I feel like there's no sign we're moving towards a goal or resolution. Steven HAD a spaceship, but the Gems sat around passively and only reacted to things that specifically came to them. When does something happen?

I figure the show will get cancelled and we won't actually ever see Homeworld or get a proper ending.

>>5045

its the "i dont like this cartoon therefore it should stop existing" logic.

>>5161
CN has at least been telling shows they're getting canned in advance so they can write their final seasons with that knowledge. Getting cancelled is probably the best thing that could happen to this show because we'd finally see the plot going.

>>5007
Zelda isn't an rpg

>>5150
>squeaker

>>5150
because they're literally 9 years old and didn't care

>>5060
>Oh and he cries the entire time this happens
wew lad i havent laffed this much in a long time

Just fucking end this show already.

This leak wasn't even important. Just another hyped up episode where nothing fucking happens.

Okay Rebecca, now comes the part where you totally detail Steven's destiny and start moving the plot forward in contrast to Greg's relaxed approach. You've set up the fucking space opera Rebecca, you can't just take it back. Rebecca... you can't just keep releasing episodes where nothing happens and call it atmosphere. Rebecca... open the door Rebecca.

>>5169
RIBECCA

>>5170
I'M COMING FOR THE STORYBOARDERS REBECCA

24 fucking hours and still no high quality leak.
According to a comment on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKJxpzYuJ10
the episode is on demand on comcast's service. Can any anon with comcast confirm?

>>5169
>You've set up the fucking space opera Rebecca, you can't just take it back.

That is something that bothers me a lot, and still love SU. People usually defend the show by saying that the lore and space opera aspects are secondary and that the show is all about SoL and melodrama, as if it is something positive, but the question is: why make something cool and exciting as side plot and do low effort and usually boring stuff as the main focus?

>>5172
Nothing.

>>5060
Wait, so the whole aspect of solving the mystery of artifacts left behind by rose was just for a retarded VHS tape, and nothing else? Not even one single thing that advances the story or give details about the war and Homeworld?

That's retarded as fuck, why do they constantly drop the ball in the hardest way possible? Eh, thanks anyway, anon.

>"Don't you see Anon! The plot twist was that there was no overarching story! Isn't it so creative!? Who needs story and narrative when you can have crying and ukulele?"

>>5176
>implying it was sucrose who made the episode

>>5172
I found this:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5gsg0m

LEG SHIP CONFIRMED

>>5075

What merchandise would SU even have? Pink plastic captain America shield? Dumpy purple sociopath action figure? Bird faced lesbian doll?

There is absolutely no merchandising potential in that show. Anything that there even could possibly be there's already three more like it with more notoriety.

>>5103

This. They had their chance. Nobody cares anymore. This is why premieres don't even get a million views an episode anymore.

>>5179
So, where is the entrance?

Jesus christ can you guys be whiny about nothing
this episode sounds perfectly fine to me

looks to me like you just fell for your own created hype

>>5148

Oh, Christ, the panicked question one is the worst. Half the time it looks more like they don't even know how to use punctuation.

>>4991
yeah the episode feels like a middle finger aimed directly at every critic of season 4.

oh was the whole thing with rose built up since season one fucking nothing? great how subversive. at club'll eat it up,

>>5169

REBECCA
OPEN UP
OPEN THE DOOR PLEASE
REBECCA OPEN THE DOOR
REBECCA
FOLLOW UP ON YOUR LORE PLEASE
FOLLOW UP ON YOUR LORE
REBECCA I KNOW YOU'RE SCARED, I'VE BEEN THERE
BUT YOU'VE GOT FANS TO PLEASE
REBECCA DON'T MAKE ME COME IN THERE
I'M GONNA COUNT TO THREE
ONE
TWO
FUCK IT

>>5159
what a shitty voice impression

>>5177

That's part of the problem

She lets her storyboarders run the show for her and rarely actually takes the reigns, as per her own admission

>>5183
So what you're telling me is have absolutely no standards and ill love it?

>>5126
I knew that fucking lizard would be important, way back when. It didn't poof goddammit, IT DID NOT POOF.

>>5075
Not that guy, but I work at ToysRUs and literally the only Steven Universe merch I've seen are these things, not sure how long they've been sitting in the isle. We did get a single box of SU Funko Pops that sold out fast, but nothing else since.

>>5094
People want Homeworld. Simple as that

Sugar is delaying more Homeworld stuff, so people get mad.

A lot of people feel Steven reached his character development peak, at least when it comes to FEELINGS, same with almost all of the CGs, as such the only obvious step is develop on the lore the show constantly alludes to, but Sugar refuses to do that.

>>5180

Well, let's start with painfully obvious...

>>5191

Yeah, I know Hot Topic hat them in for at least a week when they first came out.

>>5175
>Not even one single thing that advances the story or give details about the war and Homeworld?
The bigass pink pillars sticking out of the sand and more of these things. Also, it looks like Lion's mane is only for things that are Steven and Greg related, the room in the Sahara is for everything else she's hoarded over the centuries. Which brings an interesting question, if nobody knew about Lion, then who put the Nora tape in Rose's other room? Why bother hiding all of your stuff in the middle of the desert at gem base nobody else knows about? What do the Orange Star and the Blue Hexagon for is Rose is the Pink Hexagon on the door?

>>5194
*if Rose is the Pink Hexagon

Here's a higher quality rip of the leak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3y9s9uQmU4
https://my.mixtape.moe/fmwmzg.mp4

>>5179
anon those aren't legs, they're arms. Its a torso.

The lore sucked, but it was a pretty nice thinly veiled trans-positive episode.

>>5198
>He STILL Hasn't learned his lesson yet.

Do we have to fill up your home with rotten eggs and weasels again?

>>5197
How do we know it's not a giant hand and those are two fingers? Also, no warp pad. Did Rose have Bismuth scavenge what she could from the ship so she could make a room?

>>5094
It just feels so useless even though it's trying to be meaningful. I just don't give a shit about Rose making a second tape in case Steven was a girl. I don't want to watch the same video over and over again. Their had to be a better way of making Steven realize he's his own person.

Fuck like so much character development they'll probably forget about this and he'll probably have to learn the lesson again in a later episode. Wasting yet another 11 minutes,

>>5169
These are my sentiments. You've got a cool planet conquering alien rock people in your show. Use them.

>>5171
YOU'RE A SNIVELING JEW BECKY

>>5188
Why is that exactly? Like what does she do on the show honestly?

>>5188
Did she learn nothing from Pendleton Ward's example and her own time at AT? Ward letting the storyboarders run roughshod and make shit up with no oversight is what fucked the series more than anything else.

Have they ever had good scheduling?

>>5180
Hamburger Backpack
Steven's T-shirt
Foam Garnet hair with shades and punching hands
Plush Lion

There's quite a few ideas, that said I'm pretty sure CN would much rather just release apps since that's what kids are into, and is considerably a safer choice.

>>5189
no, to have no expectations so you won't cause your own disappointment and then have to cry about it on an anonymous message board.