/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I've never witnessed anything that barbaric, usually if people are parked really far away and don't want to walk the cart back to its rightful place here, they take it to the side of the parking lot and put the two front wheels on top of the lot's border where it can't roll away

to just leave the cart where it's clearly obstructing other people is so rude that I'd wonder if the person doesn't have some cognitive difficulties

Cager culture is the problem with society. If you can't get by with rails, pedal power, and your shoes, you'd better be in a wheelchair or something.

>>5095317
It happens all the time where I live. In this case the cart corral was less than 30 feet away.

>>5095317
It happens a lot in the uk.

You done good, OP. There can be no tolerance for that sort of laziness.

Well, unfortunately I erased the pic from my phone, but I was going to post a pic I took at my local Safeway, because it made me so angry. Went shopping one night, and noticed that people had piled their carts in the FUCKING HANDICAPPED SPOT. Even more rage inducing was that a cart corral was ONE LANE OVER, and not only that, it was right IN FRONT OF THE STORE, they could have walked literally 12 or 15 more feet and put it back where it belonged. Fucking rage seizure.
I always walk my cart back to the front of the store, because I'm not a goddamn lazy asshole, unless there's some reason it's really, really a pain in the ass (like if it's pouring rain or something) in which case I still put it in a goddamn cart corral.

You done good OP.
Keep fightin' that good fight.

>dumb female chimp walking out of grocery store same time as me
>has 5 little chimplets running around with her
>screaming at kids, yelling and cursing into cell phone, making a scene in parking lot
>she puts groceries into her car, nonchalantly shoves cart when done, and it hits my truck as im putting groceries in it
>gives me a dirty look
>i throw all my groceries into my bed, jump into truck and gun it into reverse
>cart is right behind my truck and goes flying into her car
>dents the hell out of her shitty p.o.n.t.i.a.c. bumper
>i speed off, relishing her screams in my mirror
>dgaf, god bless tx

Carts can't leave the store where I shop but when I go to a supermarket for a special the parking lot is littered with carts. sometimes occupying 5-6 parking spots when the staff comes out to solve the problem by pushing them together instead of into the carthut thingy

I've never actually caught anybody doing this but if I did I would either have a very angry word with them or do something like OP.

Good work.

Hwy are murricans so backward. There is not a single grocery store in germany that doesn't have those deposit carts where you have to put a coin into a slot to be able to unlock your cart.

>>5095434

Grew up in Florida and now live in Georgia, and I had never seen this until Aldi moved in to the US. I think they're the only big chain that does it.

>>5095434
Have these at Aldi here. Takes a quarter to unlock then get your quarter back when you return it.

>>5095445
>>5095444

>go to college in Tampa
>aldi right next to university
>shop there all the time due to poverty
>finished, unloading groceries into car
>homeless black guy shows up
>"Yo man you gotta dolluh?"
>"No, sorry, no cash."
>"Aight, can I take yo caht back fo a cohtuh (quarter)?"
>"Uh yeah, sure man."

Pretty sure some of them just camp out in the parking lot and return as many carts as they can.

>>5095280
I worked in a grocery store for 3 years and fucking cart etiquette drives be autistic to this day. Fucking people are so goddamn fucking lazy. I used to find Carts -everywhere-. In parking spaces, wedged between cars, on green strips, once I found one halfway up a tree, another time one was a goddamn block away tucked by another store.

Put your motherfucking cart in the fucking caddy, it's a fucking 10 foot walk at most

>>5095280

Did you say it OP?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqcLjcSloXs

>Putting carts away on night shft
>Carts everywhere
>Everyone is too lazy to put their cart in one of the several booths scattered along the parking lot
>Pushing some carts back and all of a sudden
>Girl actually brings her cart to the booth
>Thank her
>Stumbles out a y-yeah no problem and waves
>Watch her walk off

It's not much, but it always makes my night when things like that happen.

Just thinking about people who do that kind of shit sets my blood boiling. There are cart returns, literally, every 10 to 15 parking spaces, you are never more than 30ft from one and people would still rather leave them sitting in the middle of the aisles than return them.

I saw a bitch do something like that while grocery shopping a few weeks ago. It wasn't just a regular cart, either. It was one of the kid-friendly carts, with the toy cars mounted on the front, so kids can pretend to play while their parents shop - things are massive compared to regular carts. She just casually strolls it past her trunk, not even bothering to spare a glance at the cart return a few mere feet away, and nudges it up against the front bumper of the car in front of her, and just leaves. That's what bothered me the most, she used the car in front of hers as a rest for it, just pushed it up against the front bumper and left it there.

I used to work at a large retail chain. One night I left after a closing shift. There were probably three cars in the entire parking lot, and guess where the only shopping cart in the entire lot was? Smashed against the side of my car. It's like people fucking do it on purpose.

>>5095459
hey man that's decent money. I wonder how much they make in a day doing that?

It's the store's fault. Not the customer.
You paid for no frills. You got it. Every store should have adequate personnel to collect carts or carry groceries for customers. A quarter is their way of further cheapening out that they have zero reason to ever do anything to make parking lots nice for customers.

Where I shop, Publix, there's no double parking in front of a fire lane, or carts all over the place. That shit is handled. And, old people like my parents are assisted with everything. They don't have to walk a single step farther than they should. That quarter isn't new, it was discontinued by American stores except in the most poor of neighborhoods, where apartment dwelling car-less customers walk carts all the way home and dump them. Every cent that a store saves, from encouraging you to bring you own dirty disgusting bags, to skimping on hours, to having only enough carts, it's all their bottom line to rip you off. And you instead displace their poor behavior and service and barebones manhours as customer issues.

>>5095318
>>>/n/
>>>/reddit/

>>5095581
>Every store should have adequate personnel to collect carts or carry groceries for customers.
>being this much of a lazy fuck

>>5095581
You are right, in a sense. But there's no doubt that the customers are at fault for their own piggish, trashy, guttersnipe behaviors. That's what much of this is about. Yes, stores have become ridiculously lacking in service, but customers have also gotten worse and I don't really blame the store employees for not wanting to deal with these people, even though they should. While customer service is terribly important, it's also unacceptable to have to put up with bad behavior from customers.

>>5095599
Yep, you were tricked.

I bet you think it's green to charge you for bags, too.

>>5095318
>This is what retards actually believe

>>5095280
>This is your reminder that if you leave your shopping cart out in the parking lot you are part of the problem in society.

these people make me sick.

I tend to park far away from the supermarket as I figure that less fat people will park far away from the supermarket.
I do this because i think fat people are less considerate and are more likely to scrach my car

>>5095599
>>being this much of a lazy fuck
Maybe you're a poorbrokefag type who buys a handful of items at a time, I dunno. But, you do seem to lack understanding why everyone should get help. You are paying for help to properly bag your groceries, take them to your car and, finally, return the cart to the store on their way back so you can't gtfo of there and on your way home. Your time is valuable. You're not on the clock, they are.

/ck/ - Auto

>>5095318
>Cager culture
What?

>rails, pedal power, and your shoes
I assume you live in a city?

Is this phenomena unique to USA? I never see carts littered this barbarically at the parkinglots in Sweden.
Maybe having to put in $1-2 into the cart which you only get back after you put it back is enough deterrant.

>>5095932
/o/ here, you're a moron.

I always forget to get my quarter back from the carts at aldi's.

>>5095318
This.

This is one of my biggest annoyances in everyday life. It's hard for me to even fathom being so fucking lazy that you can mentally justify just leaving your cart in the space next to your vehicle. God help me the day I catch someone doing it.

>>5095444
It's an Aldi thing, yeah. We shopped at one when I was a kid and I remember my mom putting a coin into a slot to use a cart.

>>5096321
The first time I went to an Aldi and realized you had to pay to use a cart I about flipped my shit. I didn't have a quarter and needed to get a lot of stuff. Just tried to carry it all. Never been back to an Aldi since.

>>5095280
Asshole parks his european 2door open top coupe next to my car
Exactly 1 foot of space between my car and his
Plenty of space on his side to get out
Go into my backseat and grab the bread i bought
Break up into small pieces and tossed into his car
Birds were already swarming it as I drove away (got in the passenger side)

>>5096273
We used to have those but now they hire retarded high school kids to go round them up.

Personally, I put the damn cart in the cart corral. No one needs to be that cunt that leaves their shit in between parking spots.

>>5095445
Hahaha! Fuck THAT!
I'd rather lose a stupid quarter than have to deal with that bullshit.
Here in Houston most stores have carts laying around everywhere. No one picks them up except the shoppers on their way in.
Personally, I Always park next to a rogue cart. Having a toddler + close cart proximity means I don't have to haul her ass around so much.

>>5095280
You are autistic and passive agressive.
You are the problem with society.

>>5096330
This.

>taking a cultural anthropology course in the last semester of college, purely as an elective because it sounded neat
>have to conduct some sort of observation-based study as part of the final presentation
>prof says it can be almost anything we want, provided it's in an area where we'll see enough people for a valid sample size
>overhear some other people talking about watching people in zoos or libraries and noting particular behavioral elements
>research proposal: sit in a Costco parking lot for 8 hours and note, in terms of demographics, who is most or least likely to do a variety of things, including returning carts to the corral
>also included stuff like "most likely to wander blindly into traffic without looking" but the whole project was an excuse for me to catch people not putting their carts back
>park in a central location in my Jeep, which gives me a decent view of the lot and several of the corrals
>chill for several hours with a notebook

The demographic most likely to unload their groceries and then just say "Fuck it" and leave the cart sitting there was overwhelmingly biased toward fat white women. Age didn't seem to be a factor, and minorities did it less. I literally didn't see a single man do it; every offender was female, and if memory serves, roughly 80% of them were fatter than average.

The hardest part of the project was watching people do it and not get out of my Jeep and slap the shit out of them.

>>5095434
>tfw my cart has been stolen including the fruit I had carefully selected from all the shitty fruit more than once

>>5096351
>I'd rather lose a stupid quarter than have to deal with that bullshit.
Exactly.

My mom uses the cart rather than a cane. No way in hell she's going to walk a cart back. Employees should cull the lot regularly, not only to bring carts to the front of the store for customers, but yes, to clear the lot. And, what if it's raining?

I only bring my cart back if it's a very full lot, where it might interfere with someone getting a space, or if it's likely to roll and damage someone's car.

>>5096371
Top-tier research, Charles

love the signs in the lots.

>we're not responsible for damage caused by carts

then fucking pick them up

>>5096382
I do what I can for science.

>>5095581
>>5095923
>>5096375
Sure, grocery stores have employees that are paid to go around and grab the carts from the parking lot. They also have janitors to clean shit up off the floor. Does that mean it's okay for you to take a shit in the middle of aisle 7, just because it's convenient for you and someone else will clean it up?

>>5096373
>mfw I replace the good fruit in peoples' carts with shitty fruit when their backs are turned

>>5096387
Do you even relative?
Picking up carts is a designated job.
Cleaning up is a designated job.
If someone shits in an isle, that's technically a crime, but the janitor would clean it.
Leaving a cart outside of a designated area is not a crime, and most employees are too fucking lazy to pick them up.

I see more carts scattered in the parking lot than Where They Belong inside/by the front door of the shop.

>>5095459
You use a debit card? lolol

>>5096387
No, but it does mean you don't have to freak out and look for paper towels when a jar of jelly falls off a display stacked 6 high. You call someone to come do their job, and maybe you're nice about it. In the parking lot, it's a given that you don't need to call someone.

>>5095337

britbong here who travels around the country a lot

i never see carts astray in parking lots, i cant remember the last time ive had to be weary of them when driving to supermarkets

>>5096470
why do you think the cart corrals exist?

the rules are: you can take your cart outside, you don't even need to bring them back to the store, but you do need to stop being a selfish lazy piece of shit and walk 30 feet

that persons job is to collect carts from the corrals

>>5096526
>30 feet

if they are that far away then no. There should be a corral within at least half that

>>5096544
How fat are you?

>>5096544
that is like the distance from your lounge to your kitchen you stupid fat cunt

>>5095280
Good.

>>5095370
This makes me quite happy,
>bitches thinking the world owes them a break because they can shit out children, animals shit out children everyday and do a far better job at raising them

>>5096336
My negro

>>5096371
fucking fat white women, interesting read anon any other interesting stats?

>>5096544
You piece of shit.

this has never happened to me what kind of shitholes do you live in lol, the worst I've ever seen is a messy cart corral but never in the parking lot

>>5096336
Problem is most people would just get angry, and not realise it was punishment for parking like a cunt.
Write a note. nb

>>5096887
More importantly, where do you live that people don't leave their empty carts in the parking spaces like savages?

Florida, USA btw.

>>5095581
>Not the customer
It IS the customer's fault. If you cannot be bothered to put forth the bare minimum of courtesy and effort to clean up after yourself in public, you are a mere animal. You do not belong in a civilized society.

>>5096937
Haven't seen it in a long while here in the UK. Sometimes see it when passing by shit-tier supermarkets, but even the normal ones don't have this problem.

>>5096941
I'm the Floridanon. I don't even look at it as people being intentionally rude, I think it's just a complete lack of common sense/courtesy mixed with a hefty dose of laziness and entitlement. Doesn't mean it's not annoying as fuck when the only open spot in the parking lot is taken up by a shopping cart when the cart corral is no more than 20 ft away.

>>5096964
It helps that the have to put a £1 coin into a receptacle on the trolley to use it, and upon returning the trolley the coin is ejected.

But distance to the corrals definitely have something to do this. My Father leaves trolleys if the corral is far away, even if a £ is in there. Suppose it's just people.

You people are completely ignoring the fact that these carts cost upwards of two or three hundred dollars, maybe double that in some cases.
Any store that isn't sending people out to the parking lots frequently to both take care of bringing carts inside the store, are soooo poorly mismanaged. Retail, and groceries in particular are incredibly competitive with some of the highest and lowest profit margins on items, from the flat 15% markup at Costco to upwards of 40-80% on nonsale items elsewhere. They are absolutely told to take care of customer service, anything from making sure there is a cart, to having working wheels, an intact handle, and making sure they don't fuck up your car. If you are shopping anywhere that doesn't give a damn, then that store is working at a loss, or soon will be as people choose to go elsewhere. You, the consumer, can shop with your dollar anywhere you want. And cleanliness, and little tiny details like this are far more important to the average shopper than something like prime steak, or how tasty the bread is, trust me. You accept rude service, that's just exactly what you think you deserve. It's absolutely fine for a customer to leave a cart if someone didn't offer to put it away for them, if there is no corrals taking up spaces in the lot (and only people that drive trashy beatup cars even want to be near one of those things). Start taking responsibility for getting what you deserve. Are there carts all over the Whole Foods where you live? Only if the manager is about to be fired. At Publix or a Harris Teeter, if your cashier doesn't greet you or ask about your day, or if you want paper or plastic, they can get written up, and buhbye. Why? Because you deserve that and you will shop where you get it. You're paying the bills.

>>5097030
>im an entitled cunt and i believe other people should be my slaves instead of me having common courtesy and not being a fat fuck

>>5097030
I agree with this essentially. If it's near and convenient, sure I'll put it away. If I have to travel a distance, it's my time not yours.

>>5097086
As a customer I expect both service and goods for my money.

>>5097086
You don't understand business, do you?

>>5097086
>I don't think people hired to perform a specific task should have to do that specific task

>>5097093
>it's my time not yours.
And it's their cart, not yours. If you can't be bothered to put it back when they let you use is for free, then don't use it. It's not there for you.

>>5096930
>You park like a nigger.
>Now you have birds.

>>5097030
You also depend on those filthy horrible lazy fucks for food.
The reason that corrals exist id so that people place their trollies there, instead of walking back into the store and putting them where they found them.
It's compromise, something you may not be familiar with.

>>5097104
But you aren't using it for free, when you pay for your groceries you are also paying for the ability to use that shopping cart.

>>5097113
>>5097104
oh god this is the new tipping thread

>>5097100
>>5097096
>>5097093
their job is to collect the cart from the corrals, not where you decide to leave it, inconveniencing other customers.

i cant believe people have such an arrogant mentality to believe that just because they are going to spend their money at a business, they can do whatever the fuck they want. if you act this way, you are a bad human being who lacks even the most basic manners and empathy.

>>5097111
All 6 of the grocery stores that I shop at do NOT have corrals. Only Aldi has them. But if you back up the clock about 10 years, maybe two of them had them. In my city of about 6 million people, I can think of only 2 stores with them outside of Aldi anymore. Thing of the past. It's become people don't like them. They take up space in the lot, and they cause damage to vehicles as people sail their carts long distances in the general vicinity of the corral.

You don't depend on stores. They depend on your money. You can conceivably do all of your shopping online now, even groceries. It's not a compromise. It was some marketing geniuses idea to save a little money, and it failed. It's a thing of the past.

>>5097108
Some people wouldn't get the message, but good work anyway.

>>5097119
Hours of fun!

>>5097123
This is 4chan. Most posters are autistic. They can't understand empathy. I only had to see one old man having run around the lot collecting carts to realize that by taking the extra maximum of 30 seconds to put the cart back, I can make someone's life less shitty.

>>5097127
Enjoy dicking up the world for the rest of your life.
It's a thing of the past for a minority of consumers, but perhaps it will become obsolete in another decade or so.

>>5097133
It isn't even empathy. Doing your part is the foundation of civilization. Anyone unwilling to do even the bare minimum does not deserve society's benefits.

>>5097133
>I can make someone's life less shitty

Yes, until that old man loses his job because the store no longer needs so many employees in the position of cart wrangler.

Keep up the good work.

>>5097137
>thing of the past
>for a minority of consumers
Yea, I don't think so. It's over. A few holdouts, maybe here and there who haven't removed them from the lot. Maybe some extremely large lots over at the Target superstore, but it's not some majority of stores using these things
Maybe you live in Detroit or some other ghetto neighborhood, however. I don't know.

>>5097104
Use of cart paid for in the food premum. I have no obligation to return the cart to a corral. So long as I neither steal it nor damage it dieectly it's not my problem, and the latter is probably covered.

>>5097123
Lack of empathy point is valid. I associate with the staff no more than I would a mechanisation of the process. Bluntly I care overwhelmingly more about my time than your convenience.

>>5097147
>im littering to create jobs for people!!
poor uneducated people actually believe this

I remember when...

>Grocery store was a local/regional chain
>shopping carts were in the store only, magic voodoo made them unable to leave the store.
>At checkout there were HUGE 4 tier rolling racks.
>purchases left your cart, through belt, priced, bagged and then stacked into one of the waiting rolling racks.
>you were given a number tag.
>left store
>go get car
>drive car up and into the large covered car port loading area
>hand ticket to the loading boy
>pop trunk and the store personnel loaded the bagged groceries into the trunk.
All this done under the cover of the car port loading area.

>Parking lots had NO loose rolling carts.
>No cart corals
>Carts did not leave the stores. So no seeing store carts out in a ditch.
>Store employees weren't having to go out into the weather to get carts.
>People were FORCED to be responsible by driving their car into the loading bay and wait the 5 or so minutes for the loading boys to put your groceries into your car.
>Cars weren't getting wrecked by assholes pushing carts into cars, because the carts stayed in the store


What the hell happened?
The "old" model like what I remember as a kid/teenager seems vastly more cost effective than the current system, save for the ALDI method.

>>5097147
>Yes, until that old man loses his job because the store no longer needs so many employees in the position of cart wrangler.
Exactly.
And when you refuse offered help because you don't want to bother some guy who's job it is to help you, same thing. Tip if you want, or don't tip, but if it takes 5 guys to do some shift of bagging groceries during offpeak and you decide you want to bag them yourself, you're only helping their bottom line to eliminate jobs. You're only further eroding customer service. One day you'll look around the store and wonder why there isn't the same stock on the shelves at 7PM as when the store opened and was nice and full.

>>5097166

lol, how fucking old are you?

>>5097164
your time is so valuable that you cant spend 15 seconds to improve the life of others?

you say that while shitposting on 4chan

>>5097166
Sounds like you had snow where you lived. This is just a byproduct of how dangerous it is to load a car and push a cart on ice.

>>5097170
reading this, I can guarantee that you have never worked in a supermarket

you genuinely do not understand what you are talking about

>>5097175
It's valuable to me, your time/convenience has no value to me at the end of the day.

>>5097164
>I care more about my convenience than your time.
FTFY

>>5097166
THIS

took a while to find a picture of what I meant from my memories.

>>5097186
thanks for not contributing to society

fuck off and be a hermit if you dont want to be a part of decent society

>>5097186
Which is precisely why civilization isn't for you. You are a cultural leech. If you want to live consistently with your attitude, you need to remove yourself from it.

>>5097196
A society wherw employees can't fulfill their job?

I'm happy with how I live and shan't change a thing unless forced.

>>5097200
Similarly, if you take issue find a means of removing me. I can't imagine any radical contribution to society from a store clerk or trolley pusher. Whilst on the job you are staff and bound by whatever contractual obligations exist - as am I whenI shop.

>>5097200
Are you communist? Socialist? Or do you just think everyone thinks like you do?

People don't walk around being altruistic without nothing in return. There are occasionally nice gestures from strangers, but if you can do that yourself all the time everywhere you go all day, then I am going to suggest you have a lot of free time and probably supported by someone else. You have the ability to be a cool dude because you have no job or responsibilities. You probably visit your grandma everyday too, and wonder why others don't.

>>5095373
Place where I go has a quarter slot so you have to put the cart back if you want your quarter back. Why doesn't all places have such technology?

>>5097218
>cleaning up after yourself in public is altruism
Oh boy, wait until you move out of your mom's basement and learn how the world actually works.

>>5097223
>Why doesn't all places have such technology?

Because at the stores in particularly low class areas you'll find the customer service desk and all managers bogged down all day by poor people demanding free tokens to use the carts and throwing a shitfit if they don't get their way.

>>5097218
Because not being a lazy faggot and shitting up the world around you is communism. If people with actual responsibilities can afford to put their carts back, some Cheeto-guzzling kid like you with enough time to feel he needs to personally defend his own lazy behavior on an internet imageboard all day can do the same.

>>5095317
Live in the land invaded by mexicans. You will see.

>>5095280
haha good one. what a dumb bitch

>>5097156
No, I don't live in America.
People here still get out of the house and do things apart from seeing the next Bourne flick or getting McDonalds.

>>5097194
damn these places are hard to find now.
I'm having to rack my brain to think of all the places I've seen them.

>>5096330
I didn't even realize you get your quarter back so I was carrying a bunch of shit. I probably looked like an idiot.

>>5097224
No one is leaving carts dirty, dude.

This isn't like leaving your trash on the table at the local Burger King when they provide a trashcan at the door on your way out. Or having a picnic and walking around from the trash. This is leaving store property on the store property. Maybe you even roll out up in front of the space, too. Anything more you do is because you have time to do so. It's not much more than that. Applying all these ridiculous lazy notions or anti-societal leanings is cheeto-eating underage (nondriving) people is bizarre unless you really don't get it. No one decent will push a cart into the space you're halfway pulling into...but now can't. That'd be rude. But, leaving a cart in a store's parking lot is not.

>>5097251
Man, I've only seen it once.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treasury_(store)
That's it.

In snowy climates, I've seen a lot of double parking, and employees hanging out with your cart while you move your car to the front of the store. Obviously this can get congested during the holidays or before a big storm. It's a fire lane kind of issue, so maybe some municipalities insisted on your method. I would think with 9/11 and all that fear of even having unattended garbage cans, this is not going to be such a good idea.

Cars need to park in parking spaces and people need to walk on footpaths, carts belong in a corral.
<This isn't acceptable

>>5097258
It's pretty much exactly the same. It's someone's job to clean the tables after you leave at BK, so there's no reason according to your argument not to leave your trash at the table. Moreover, what you're defending is worse. The tables are there to hold food and food containers. The parking lot is not there to hold the cart you decided to leave there.

Now your argument is, "I'm not doing a different shitty thing, so it's okay that I'm doing THIS shitty thing."

>>5097236

I was always a believer in the Social Contract. It makes you a 'people' and not a 'nigger'.

Auntie Ayn Rand came along and said the Social Contract is for betas, followers and plebes.

Instead of immediately whisking you into a penthouse suite with an Italian suit the reality is that rejecting the social contract usually turns you into this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttcE1KESUyU

>>5097273
pic

After I'm done loading my groceries, I power the cart to full speed vaguely towards the corral. I don't give a fuck about denting your car.

I noticed people leaving carts outside, in the parking lots more commonly at Whole Foods than any other grocery store I've been to. Fucking self-entitled yuppie scum.

>>5097284
>After I'm done loading my groceries, I power the cart to full speed vaguely towards the corral. I don't give a fuck about denting your car.
This.

Having done this job for a few years back in high school I can tell you that 90% of the people doing this shit are fat women, and of those the majority have screaming children with them.

For the most part men tend to always return their carts, often bypassing the corral and taking them right back into the store.

>>5097293
They leave the carts out so they can tell their dinner party friends that they are "job creators"

>>5097284
>>5097299
I saw someone do this once, hit a car. The owner had seen it happen but was just leaving the store.
A few weeks later. The same two were at the store on a Sunday. The guy who got his car dented beat the fuck out of the other guy, he brought a baseball bat with him. Smashed his knees and hands with it.
He was arrested. Fucking punk the guy who did that was an asshole but does not deserve to be crippled for a dent.

>>5097307
>and of those the majority have screaming children with them.
I guess you advocate children left alone in a car so you don't have to exit the store? This is an example of the impracticality of it in every situation. It's exactly why there are drive-through pharmacies and so many fast food meals, because having toddlers makes anything quick impossible.

>>5097293
Really? Whole Foods is one of the places I can honestly say I've never seen a cart not in the corral. Actually now that I think about it the only place I ever really see carts not in the corral is when I have to go to a Walmart. Every time I've ever been to a Walmart it is like a goddamned cart wasteland.

>>5097242
Any brown people. Natives and muslims are no better.

>>5097316
>but does not deserve to be crippled for a dent

But will he ever dent someone else's car with a cart again?

Mission accomplished.

>>5097324
This. But you should know that guy is just trolling now. They don't even have large carts at Whole Foods in any real quantity, it's those double decker cutesy things, and hand baskets.

>>5097326
You poor anon. I really feel for you. We have the mexicans, but I know you have the desert niggers.
In some of the mid western states they have them. I don't know anyone from those regions but I would assume they are just as terrible as the few I have seen here.

>>5097323
>I guess you advocate children left alone in a car so you don't have to exit the store?

Well obviously so, seeing as how no one but yourself has implied as much.
I personally have no problem with people leaving their carts wherever the hell they please, it kept my employment good and steady.
Just pointing out who tends to behave in this manner the majority of the time.

>>5097264
I cannot find any more pictures, that's sad.

I do wonder now though ow much money stores loose on cart theft, or damage from being outdoors, plus the costs of "cart corals" and employee time to go out and retrieve carts.

If you are in Florida, Alabama, California, going out to get carts? Not such a big deal.

Ohio? Like the other week we had -13 degree weather and 9" of snow. Not such a great thing.

I think people would actually better appreciate the "older" system of the groceries staying IN THE STORE while you fetch your car and the store employees load for you.

Then look at how many issues would simply disappear.

>>5097332
>Canada
It's weird, because Mexicans up here are pretty chill, but they're so few and far between, as where middle-easterners are like a 4:1 ratio to whites here, it's getting pretty rediculous

>>5097316
denting a car is just as morally wrong as blowing it up. The severity of the damage is not what matters- the fact that there is any damage at all is what matters.

>>5097375
>If you are in Florida, Alabama, California, going out to get carts? Not such a big deal

Oh it can be pretty bad. In California we regularly have to deal with temperatures around 112-115 degrees in the summer.
Heat exhaustion or even heat stroke is a definite reality for cart wranglers in the summer.

>>5097391
Okay, I didn't know that.

Then my idea doubles.

You get to leave all your ice cream and goodies in the store to wiat for you.

Get your car all nicely cooled down from roasting in the sun

Pull under shaded loading bay

Have store employees load your food into your car.

Drive off, with not cart-on-car body damage, because all carts STAYED IN THE STORE.


I know I'd like to leave my foodstuffs in the store, go out, get car warmed up, pull into loading area, stay in warm car and have store employees load my car and then drive off with no cart-on-car body damage because THE CARTS STAY IN THE STORE.

Those $300 carts...
That bums steal
That end up in ditches, or sometimes in recycling yards
That cause damage to patrons cars as they roll around the parking lot


We should be DEMANDING better service from the stores, not bitching about rude people. Because lets face facts, people are oftentimes just naturally rude, thus we need to remove as many possible avenues for this rudeness to manifest.

>>5097378
You know I should say that not all of them are bad. The older ones who came here, tend to keep to themselves work hard, and attempt to live out a good life.
Their children on the other hand are garbage and should be fired too the moon.

>>5097316
..Yes, yes he fucking did.
I hope the rest of the customers out in the parking lot saw that and thought twice about just shoving a cart anywhere full force

>>5097409
People wouldn't want to pay the extra $2-$5 for that service.

>>5097449
More than likely it would just end up getting rolled into the general cost of your groceries, which kind sucks for everyone who wouldn't be using the service.

>>5097422

Also in Canada, I have a different opinion. I agree that the older ones tend to work hard and keep to themselves. Their kids, for the most part, also work hard and tend to be decent people. It's the fresh of the boat ones who have come from a rich family in the middle east where they have more money than god who think they can do whatever they want because any shit they get into can just be paid off that are the assholes. They don't respect an honest days work or anything even remotely resembling respectful, compassionate, basic human interactions. They're just kids whose world is a toy they can break whenever they feel like it. It's anti-social at best, and sociopathic at worst, and its a fucking pain in the ass to be anywhere near them.

I live in E Philly and people go out of their way to be nice to you. I have more kids hold doors open for me the first I moved here than the entire rest of life living everywhere else. Once a guy i was about 30 yards away from the door as this guy was going in. He stood there and waited for me so he could keep the door propped open.

But whoa differences when it comes to carts. Probably half of people go full asshole when it comes to carts. To "combat" the problem, some stores keep a limited supply of carts so when you get there, you are better off grabbing a random one from the parking lot and taking it in with you because there probably won't be any spares available.

>>5097378
The few Mexicans I've seen in Canada were assholes who talked in Spanish bad mouthing gringo Canadians who ordered food, of course they're oblivious of the rudeness and polite. It sucks barely any Latino food where I am and the ones that are close are operated by dicks.

>>5098497
I gotta say that I've never encountered rude or nasty Mexicans who run restaurants. This is pretty unusual. This isn't anecdotal, but pretty damn cultural. Mexicans are proud of their food, for good reason, and there's a job well done work ethic, and generally most are Catholic and pretty filled with christian values.

I'm wondering if you offended them somehow, something as little as no eye contact, or spoke down to them by ordering without a pleasantry first. Why not a little spanish in greeting, and smiles and "I'll be having some of your AMAZING sopa de tortilla, and some of the delicious mole enchiladas...
Be complimentary. Thank and tip well. See if it doesn't happen you get personally nicer treatment.

>>5098512
Mexicans laugh at gringos attempting Spanish, also were in Canada. Everyone's Extremely polite, nothing asks for rude treatment. I think im just unlucky or Mexicans are so rare here that they get self important or something

>>5097449
But they did.

I know what Ohioguy is talking about.

I vaguely remember there used to be a store called Dave's Supermarket in Cleveland. The baggers would bring your groceries out to the curb to your car for you, and this was the 90s.

Dave's. Heinen's. God where else to people used to shop back then...

>>5098573
Publix, all day every day, to your trunk, walking with you. Tips not allowed (though they don't fire them anymore for thttp://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/image?c=03AHJ_VutlxPKYfKSNDIoEVam2Qk0zIw1TynID6nflzTjFgWIg_NGFSDyifzFQ4tbN6Q2s08bH0z9vJTauTl32VR5P_HDpjrPAagxJxTYHHGC-wW4N89IgyZ__FrwPyiy0pOAYcJPB-055bjpja5VsoueBx14NU9veMhpSt5lwv7hGecesFY3XRCMaking them this past year or so).

>>5098577
I definitely remember it was a tipped service. I don't disagree with the model either. I'm more in favor of my car not getting hit by some lazy asshole's cart.

No Publix near me. I have HEB and Randall's.

>>5098587
In rating after rating, Publix always comes out ahead at a top grocery, if not #1. and for a chain that is almost certainly regional, and once restricted to a single only state, it ranked #1 back then as well. They simply believe in customer service. And, they are ridiculously clean and bright.

http://followingtherules.com/publix-tipping-case-study-increase-coffee-shops-customer-service-rating-get-excellent-yelp-reviews/

and more food for thought that runs counterintuitive to most here:
http://thesadblog.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/sad-tipping/

>>5098573
There's a Heinens in Strongsville that still has you pull up to the store to load groceries.

>wait in grocery parking lot for a hot chick to come out with a cart
>pull up to her car while she's unloading her groceries
>offer to take her cart back since you'll need one anyway
>use one of a hundred ice-breaking lines before you leave
>if it works, get digits

Works like a charm. Gotta be careful though if you do it at night and the place is empty she'll think you're a creep

>>5098818
You're a creeper, no matter how you do it. You're in someone's personal space, that moment they're about to get in their vehicle and lock the doors, and you absolutely should do nothing more than walk away quickly, if you are in fact doing someone a favor. Anything more is going to make any normal person wonder if you're going to carjack them, steal their purse, or otherwise kidnap and rape them. Dumb.

>>5098829
>all this implying
It might be hard for you to be social and interact with people you meet in public, but it's not for everyone.

>>5098865
You're one of those assholes who tries to talk to me despite the fact that we are strangers, and consequently ruins my day, aren't you? Just because YOU don't have a problem with it doesn't mean you aren't making everyone around you uncomfortable.

>>5095280
OP = proper lad

>>5095539
I don't see what the big deal is, its really not that hard. The only time I've put the cart on the sidewalk (even attaching them together if there is more) is only when its damn cold out.

Also, if their are any cart workers here, I give you my thanks and apology's. You people are awesome.

>>5097316
Jesus fucking christ, humans are barbaric.

What happened to insurance or whatever else crap that may have fixed this without threatening someones life?

>>5098952
What happened to putting the cart away properly?

>>5098961
I guess my problem is what my idea of a "dent" is.

>>5096375
That's what blue badge spaces are for.

>>5096937
I live in Canada (I'm the guy you replied to) and I've never seen this. Not even lazy fuck students do this here, like I said the worst I've seen is occasionally people won't line them up properly in the corral

>>5098888
>on next week's episode: The Autist Goes Shopping

>>5099004
Other than spouting the word 'autism' with no back up, you have yet to adequately explain why it should be acceptable to approach and talk at random strangers who in all likelihood don't want anything to do with you.

>>5099025
>why should it be acceptable to socialize with people in public

No you're right, I think "aspergers" is the correct word to use here.

>>5099031
>socialize with people you don't know and have no reason to approach in public

>acceptable behavior for adults

Pick one.

>>5099040
Who am I approaching? I'm leaving to my car walking to the store. Or I'm waiting in line. I never expressly walk up to someone for the purpose of chatting them up.

It must be sad to live in fear of having to communicate with another human being without giving them express permission to do so first.

Is that how you talk to girls? Do you pass them a note asking if you can say hello to them? Check yes or no?

>>5099040
You're the guy that gets forced along to a club, and consequently abandoned in a corner. There's always somebody looking awkward as fuck that neither socialises with a new group nor has the balls to leave without their friends.

>>5099071
>You're the guy that gets forced along to a club
No I'm not. I don't associate with people who frequent 'clubs'

>>5099062
No, I just don't say anything unless there is a real reason to actually be talking.

>>5099085
clubs aside you dont enjoy socializing with random strangers?

yeah some ppl dont like being spoken to in public but i can tell when they feel uncomfortable by the body language/facial movements so i just stop bothering them at the point.

although most people dont mind where i live. (NYC) you must b in some flyover state where everyone is distant as fuck and socially retarded fam.

>>5099178
at that point*

>>5099178
I live in a city.

>>5099213
what city.

im going to find you and ask you about mundane things.

>>5099085
Clubs are by no means universally bad. Student ridden shit holes are a bore, but good jazz clubs and the like are excellent with some company.

Also, how exactly does someone talking to you ruin your day? I find that perplexing; if I don't want to talk I just don't reciprocate, it doesn't perturb me.

>>5099245
>jazz clubs
Never been to one, but that sounds awful

>>5099241
>"The weather's nice today don't cha think?"
>"t-thanks you too"

That's how I picture his conversations going

>>5099241
Couldn't you please just rape me and slit my throat instead? That would be preferable.

>>5095359
Fuck handicap most of those fuckers are assholes that buy the damn things from someone that really needs them or fat fucks that are too lazy but bitch enough to get one. besides theres always 1500000 handicap spots so fuck them. I've seen many real handicaps park like normal people and they dont fucking cry about it

>>5099254
Alright, a question then: What do you enjoy doing socially?

Jazz clubs are pleasant, the music isn't so loud that you can't speak normally, the drinks are good, and the people are usually interesting.

>>5099282
>What do you enjoy doing socially?
Video chatting with his guild members on WoW

>>5099267
Please, tell us more.

>>5099213
Are you Finnish or just an extreme American autist?

>>5100671
Nice logic. I like how you still refuse to offer a logical explanation for your position.

>>5099282
Jazz clubs are pretentious shitholes. I work at one regularly. Musicians worth a damn usually hate them.

>>5101216
I'm not the dude you were arguing with.

It's normal to talk to strangers, ever heard of small talk? The way in which members of society interact with each other (e.g. strangers) is an indication of the attitude they have towards socialising. Socialising less and less frequently is generally viewed as negative.

Do you have any friends?
If so then they were once strangers who you engaged in conversation.

I fucking hate clubs though, I agree with you on that. I much prefer little outings with friends or family like picnics, pub lunches or movies.

If you enjoy your life and are happy that's all that really matters.

>people who drive around the parking lot for over 10 minutes looking for a spot near the door of the store

holy fuck, if you are too fucking lazy to walk an extra 30 seconds, please kill yourself

>>5101262
>It's normal to talk to strangers
Stopped reading there.

>>5101216
>offer a logical explanation for your position

>>5101289
>LOLOLOL DIDDUN READ DIDDUN READ U FAGET

>>5101308
Okay, so "socializing is good because people say its good" counts as a logical explanation?

>>5101289

It is if you're a grill. The only people who talk to me out of nowhere are lost tourists, gay men, and chicks. The tourists I can help. The gay men I always try to deflect coolly but I think I end up seeming like a stuck up asshole. The chicks activate my super awkward mode and I end up having an aspergers attack and weirding them out.

>this argument is still going on
>mfw I started this whole thing yesterday

>>5101347
You done good, OP. With the original action and the purse swinging you've started.

>>5097275
>people who don't clean up after themselves in fast food restaurants
I can understand if there's no bin, like there isn't sometimes in things like railway stations, but to not simply tip your tray into th bin and put it on the top is ultimate laziness.

>>5101352
oh not OP, I meant the silly argument people Mr. Aspergers and Normal People

>>5101358
You know what pisses me off more than anything? People who just fucking liter for no reason.

I saw a family of four (all fat) climb into a car at a gas station once. Both kids threw trash out of the window and before they pulled away. I mean there was a trash can right outside the fucking station. If they weren't already pulling away I would've gotten out and said something to the parents, but it's likely they do the same thing and don't give a fuck anyway

>>5101376
>Littering
I just don't get it. Especially in public spaces where there is usually a bin every 10 metres. Is dropping your rubbish on the floor really saving you that much time you disgusting slobs?

>>5101376
>not following the home and feeding them until they explode ala Se7en style

>>5101318
being social is more acceptable than being antisocial
if you are antisocial

>>5101385
'Acceptable' to who? Based on what?

>>5101318
being social is more acceptable than being anti social, this is known by almost any human

the fact that you are seeking a 'logical explanation' is sign that you are different

does being different bother you?

>>5101389
So you're saying that it is, because it just is and don't question it? Ok thanks now I know that you're just full of shit.

>>5101396
good luck trying to change societal norms by avoiding polite conversation with strangers, you autistic fucking sack of reeking shit

>>5101401
>implying I even have autism
>implying you aren't the sack of shit for bothering everyone around you with unwanted advances

>>5101413
>unwanted advances
Some people actually like talking to other people, even if you view it as attempted rape/robbery- how hard is that for you to understand?

>>5101415
It's a two way street. YOU may like talking to other people, but you have no way of knowing what the other person wants, so you shouldn't assume its ok to just go bother them.

>>5101418
OK, I'll just take that sound advice and withdraw myself from society, thankyou.

>littering
Well, I would never throw something from a car window like those people at the gas station.

But, there is a definitely lack of available trash cans since 9/11. Malls and stores removed them all over the place, and they still aren't back in the right numbers in public areas.
As a rule, I take any trash out of my car to my own can when I pull up at my house. If I am out, however, and it might spoil, I will look for a public can as I enter a store or something. Most drive throughs will have a can past the window so you can clear out your drink cup holder. But, in a pinch and to save my vehicle, I'll set a can down in a parking garage, like on campus or airport, somewhere the cans are missing in a big way. They are cleaned each night. It's not somewhere you can get a ticket for actual littering, that's for sure.

>>5101415
What is unwanted attention?

>>5095280
Aldi forces you to put the cart back for that return deposit

>>5101428
We're talking about polite conversation if someone's appearance, age, sex, body language, etc. combined seems open.
..or are we not?

>>5101435
Again, you are making assumptions about what people want.

>>5101444
And you can make it clear if the assumptions are wrong. You make assumptions about other people's behavior every fucking day. Unless you don't leave your single home that is.

If the weather is nice enough, I'll take my cart back and a nearby loose one just to be nice.

>>5101428
>>5101444
Maybe you should just stop going out in public at all that would probably suit you better

>>5101593
The fact that it can be clarified after the fact doesn't make the initial intrusion ok.

>>5101606
Jesus knowing you in real life must be intolerable.

>"hey excuse me do you know how to get t-"
>"TRIGGER WARNING! YOU ARE INTRUDING ON ME!!!!"

>>5101613
I don't get upset over people asking for directions, because they have a legitimate reason for saying something.

>>5101622
robot detected
>>>/r9k/

>>5095280
I JST WANTED TO SAY I SUPPORT OP AND I STARTED A THREAD LIKE THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO AND GOT BANNED FOR IT. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

>>5101626
I don't use that shithole of a board.