/ck/ - Food & Cooking

i support this. i hate dealing with people, especially service staff. i always use the self-checkout kiosks at grocery stores if i can.

>>4995154
Agreed, fuck service employees.

Fuck eating at applebees too, but maybe if it works there they'll install them everywhere. Maybe one day I'll have my ideal outing where I accomplish all of my business without having to talk to any fucking people.

>>4995154

dude. you have a social interaction problem.

I imagine they'd get pretty dirty. I'd prefer human interaction, and keeping someone employed

>>4995105
the world is getting too easy for autists to survive in, and that can't be a good thing for society as a whole

>>4995189
Autists are perfect. They have little sense when spending money and won't rebel against the current order because they can't socialise.

>>4995194

Real autists will replace you all by machines.

>tfw you'll starve while logical creatures use the automatic cashier at the supermarket

Yeah, lets just make even fewer jobs in this shitty ass fucking economy just so autists dont have to talk to someone for 2 minutes or optionally tip a couple extra bucks. Jesus fuck.

>>4995184
They work perfectly fine in Japan. Personally I prefer them and feel like places with lunch rushes should use a similar setup to Japan with the ticket machines. Have a string of the machines setup and only one cashier. The machines don't accept substitutions and ideally offer a slight discount. Cash detectors in the US suck and are slow so I think they should only accept cards.

>>4995202
>implying losing inefficient and unnecessary jobs is a bad thing

>>4995213
Retard.

>>4995202

Fewer monkeys = more jobs for the right people.

>>4995218
>m-muh elevator operators, lamplighters, and switchboard operators

>>4995105
As someone who hates the fake demeanor of most waitresses, being bothered throughout my meal and having to tip someone for doing what a conveyor belt could do I could not be happier.

>>4995202

I bet you go about complaining about the huge layoffs of blacksmiths and cotton wheel operators. Whaling ships as well, an industry destroyed by the advent of plastic.

>>4995202
Do you live in Oregon and believe we shouldn't pump our own gas?

>>4995234
It really is hard to imagine that, in this day and age, waitresses still exist in franchise restaurants. Of course, human service in a good restaurant is important and you can see how professional well-trained and experience staff are.

But at an Applebee's? What's the point? You can tell the job will be obsolete when even the manager barely pays them and puts it on the customer.

They should just have a series of hidden or sleekly-designed conveyors that deliver the food faster to the customer.

Why does a person have to physically walk your food over for a fee? It's the same way 90% of bank interactions involve an ATM - it makes more sense to have bank employees dealing with bigger things than handing someone $20.

>"BAWWW, WAITRESSES NEED HIGHER SALARIES... PLUS TIP!"
>Applebees just replaces them to cut costs as is typical of a competitive market
>Mcdonalds, Wawa, etc are all starting to automate the ordering process as well

Thank you based Free Market

>>4995231
>As someone who hates the fake demeanor of most waitresses,

I'd happily tip them if they'd flash me.

>>4995244
>Free Market
Meanwhile, subsidies continue to increase.

>>4995247
And that's a bad thing

>>4995253
You shouldn't claim to be a proponent of free market capitalism when you obviously do not understand what it implies.

>tfw waitstaff
w-why do u hate us /ck/?

>>4995261

>>4995261
Because you assholes ALWAYS blame the kitchen.

>mfw Appleshits becomes a glorified fast food place and STILL gets orders wrong

>>4995269
>mfw Appleshits becomes a glorified fast food place
>becomes
It is basically a sit-down fast food place. I wouldn't consider it anything more.

Not that I go to Applebee's, but please keep the waitresses. Kthx

>>4995269
Pretty much this. Unrelated, but I have to have my own moment of hatred for this restaurant chain. Although I feel like it's already a glorified fast food place.

I grew up in a small town in Ohio, and Applebee's was like the Studio 54 of dining establishments. It's a fucking shitty chain restaurant.

If you blindfolded me, and then fed me food from Friday's, Applebee's, Max & Erma's, Chili's, Bennigan's, O'Charley's, etc.; etc. and then at the end put a gun to my head and said "The Tingy Wingy Pizza Poppers and Pizzadillas were what numbered dishes? What restaurants are they from?" Well, you would have to shoot me, all that shit looks and tastes the same.

>>4995283
>I grew up in a small town in Ohio, and Applebee's was like the Studio 54 of dining establishments.
lol'd

>>4995260
You realize how stupid it is for a business or a business owner to actually support free market capitalism when it no longer benefits them right? Businesses do not exist to become life long proponents of ideals: they exist solely to generate maximum profits for shareholders.

>>4995261

Because tips are a parentage that rise with inflation in the price of your meal. I don't understand how they went from 10% to 12.5% to 15% and now 20%.

Also don't understand how wait staff make hundreds of dollars a night when a MacDonald's server, who also in addition to taking orders has to work with hot oil making fries and often has to clean tables and the bathroom just makes minimum wage.

do applebees and chilis really think the morons and hamplanets who eat at their restaurants won't break the tablets every day? or that the network won't crash all the time? they're going to need twice as much tech staff as they currently have waitstaff and they won't be able to pay the techs minimum wage.

>>4995292
I'm not talking about businesses scamming the system, I'm talking about anon being a proponent of free market capitalism and supporting subsidies.

>>4995294

lol, percentage, not parentage

>>4995297
IT tech shill

>>4995297

Restaurants across the world accept credit cards without the system crashing.

>>4995298
Oh. Gotcha.
What can I say? People are hypocrites like that.

>>4995310
Credit card scanner != computer

>>4995320

It doesn't just scan the card. It communicates with their servers to ensure the card is valid and you have the funds/limit to pay.

>>4995310
No, the tablets would be probably connected to a local PoS. Any issues would be internal to the client business and most likely the most common problems would occur at the lowest level: input devices.

>>4995327

So most likely a table goes down. Not a problem unless the place is fully booked, in which case you drag the one waitress on standby duty out, or a manager can take the order.

It seems logical enough since it'd save them money. The tablets won't break *that* easily.
Regarding the deterioration of (certain portions of) the service industry, I already accepted that it was going to happen. Replacing more and more forms of unskilled labor with centralized automation will just lead more people to subsist on welfare and unemployment benefits and cost everyone else more money while large businesses reap the profits.

>>4995326
ORLY?

>>4995333
I figure that would be the ideal back-up plan in terms of cost, practicality and customer service.

The future is finally here.

>>4995294
It's much harder to get a job at a nice restaurant then at McDonalds, and waiters are expected to perform at a much higher level.

>>4995268
I don't, I'm close with the kitchen and help out when they're overwhelmed.

I just hope they won't be requiring any tips.

>>4995105
>Why isn't this an amazing idea?
Because it's Applebee's. iPads won't magically transform it into a good place to eat. It'll still be foodservice grade meals served in a strip mall. A silly use of technology will only result in the sad experience of eating there being more dehumanizing.

If that's your thing enjoy it. But they could have T. rexes shooting lazors out of their eyes bringing your order to the table, and they'd still suck. Because their special kind of suckiitude comes from their business model, which is based on serving shitty food to people who don't give a fuck as long as they can sit in the restaurant instead of wolfing it down in their car. That's a pretty low bar.

>>4995442
all this really says is that applebees is a fast food restaurant

>>4995105
I've been wishing for this to happen for years. Sure it's only Applebees right now, but when this catches on in better restaurants the world will be a better place for it. I for one hate talking to people, so this is perfect for me.

>>4995166
bitch please... i don't need a damn waiter/waitress at applebee's. with the turnover at these places, 90% of the time i get a fuckin trainee anyway who doesn't even know what's on tap or anything useful about the menu as it is. talking to the cook yourself would be easier more effective most of hte time... or using a convenient computer.

If this actually fixes the whole tipping thing to be more like the rest of the world, then I might actually eat at an applebees.

I'm guessing that they'll just add a prompt asking 'do you want to tip 20% or 30%?' as an excuse for paying the cook less than minimum wage.

>>4995559
Corporations will always look for ways to increase their profits while pay out less and less. They are set up to work that way. So yes, even if you think you're saving money by not having to tip a waitress, you will still be paying more than you should for substandard food. The costs of having to install those tablets has to come from somewhere, right? It certainly isn't going to come from the company coffers. The savings of having to have less actual employees will only be seen over time, not right away, plus they will still have to have some waitresses and bussers, plus IT people in each restaurant to fix it when the system goes down. This is mainly a marketing ploy, it's not to save the customer any money. It might save a little time ordering, but in the end, you still have to wait for your food, wait for refills of drinks, etc. Plus, as they will expect you to pay from the tablet, you will most likely pay first, and then receive your food, which will lead to a huge slip in service, much like regular fast food places.

A sushi place I went to last week did this. You had a tablet that you'd order from. The waiter would press a button to let the chefs know, and all he'd do is bring water and stuff. It was great.

Once again, innovation. I could see this taking off once the baby boomers finally die off in the next decades.

Inb4 baby boomers cheating death for centuries because they are just that goddamned psychotic.

>>4995594
I can see how that would work well in a sushi restaurant, but Applebee's has no standards, it will not turn out well.

>>4995624
Oh, the bitterness and folly of youth, how cute.

>>4995228
Your condo doesn't have a full-time, uniformed elevator operator? What kind of pleb-tier city do you live in? You can always take the service elevator with the spics and dogs if you want to avoid humans.

>>4995594

At Yo Sushi you have sparkling and still water at the table

>>4995594

At Yo Sushi you have sparkling and still water on tap at the table

>yfw the tablets make you pay tip

This is good for the waiters.

Now, if places like this continue paying ridiculously low wages (if you can even call them that), no one will work for them anymore, since the (deceptive) incentive of tips will be gone. So they'll be forced to pay actual, proper salaries to get people to work for them.

Even the most down-on-their-luck student or Mexican won't work for below minimum wage when tips no longer exist.

>>4995587
I'm not expecting to save money. I'm looking for a restaurant to have the balls to put the actual cost of a meal on the menu rather than pull a bait-and-switch every time. This tablet thing reminds me of what they use at chain izakayas in Japan, which is why I thought that was a possibility. It's way less stressful to see something that's $12 on a menu, order it, and pay exactly $12 instead of seeing something that's $8, order it, and then the check comes and you're like 'oh yeah I guess I actually have to pay $12'

>>4995716
Yeah, that would be the ideal situation. I've always thought that there needs to be some technology like this introduced to make such a switch.

>>4995734
It's still a bait and switch, just with hidden costs.

>>4995467
>all this really says is that applebees is a fast food restaurant
And as such the conceit of waitstaff is unnecessary. But it leads me to question what image they're trying to adopt. They spent a long time trying to build an image as a "neighborhood" joint, in spite of being typically located in (strip) malls. Eliminating servers kind of goes against that friendly image, reducing them to the fast food joint without the veneer they've spent so much effort putting on.
>>4995493
>but when this catches on in better restaurants the world will be a better place for it.
I can't imagine this catching on in good restaurants. Wealthy people expect to be coddled, and that kind of service is a big chunk of what one pays for in a fine dining establishment. Take that away and you'll lose the high end clientele. Mark my words, you will not see the elimination of waitstaff in good restaurants, because service is part of the equation. Glorified fast food joints, sure, but not proper restaurants.

This sounds amazing. I hope more restaurants adopt it, as there is really no god damn point in having wait staff at cheap franchise locations like Applebees. I will probably give Applebees another try, they were pretty terrible last time I went though.

>>4995747
>Glorified fast food joints, sure, but not proper restaurants.

I'm pretty sure that's what he meant by "better." Applebee's is shit tier even for typical family dining.

>>4995587
>he thinks each Applebees will staff an IT person

They won't. At best the manager will get sent to a seminar on how to troubleshoot common issues and anything bigger than that will either require a replacement part or actual support from a real technician that will probably be assigned one to a district each

>lrn2IT

I bet in 2050 hipsters will be opening restaurants that actually require human interaction.

>actually wanting ways to eliminate human interaction

i fucking hate people
really i do

and i hate you autistic faggots the most

>Hiwelcometoapplebeesmynameiskaytlincanireccomendourfamouscountryfriedporkassholestostartwithwhatcanidoforyoutoday.
>Burger, medium rare, thanks
I don't know how my soul is going to cope without this tender fleeting moment when two hearts meet

>>4995377
What exactly do you do to help the kitchen when they are overwhelmed? Because I've never seen a server do more than expo. Other than that they just stand there and ask if their food is done yet.

And I'm tired of you all driving up my food costs because you can't remember to write "no onions" on the damn ticket.

>>4995105
I assume this is really just a response to Obamacare a la cutting workers down to part time status. That and it's basically like the self-service checkout lines at the grocery store. I don't think it has a whole lot to do with Autists even though it does open some doors for awkward people. I hate that nervous anticipation when the server takes orders round-robin so this might be nice. Too bad it's at applebees though because that's the worst damn food.

>>4996781
>response to Obamacare
How do you figure this has anything to do with Obamacare? Servers are pretty much always part time employees.

>>4995105
less jobs. thats fucked. it provides easier service to patrons, sure. they can call for a drink when its empty. but is it really that bad? jesus, people need jobs

Does that mean I have to use credit cards for payment? because I'd rather pay with cash.

>>4995202
>technology isn't meant to release man from the shackles of toil

At first I was concerned about how dirty the screens would get, and how I would have to wash my hands after using them.
But then I realized how dirty menus probably are, threw up a little in my mouth, and now I feel better about the tablets.

I support this idea.

Enjoy the mandatory 15% technology charge

>>4995105
>an end to tipping.

SOLD.

Tipping is fucking retarded.

>>4996800
>I'd rather pay with cash.

>>4996786
offsetting the cost for the full timers. we are laying off most part timers and moving full to part it in the spring as well

>>4996822
enjoy your transaction history being scrutinized by your bank

>>4996786
Oh okay. I have a pretty political coworker that has a new daily complaint about Obamacare and cutting down foodservice workers' hours was one of his earliest rants. His rants are pretty funny to me because I know deep down his major concern is losing his cushy private insurance and having to take accountability for his poor health due to being morbidly obese.

I do remember hearing that Darden had flat out removed most of their Full-time positions to avoid paying for health insurance and figured that would be an industry-wide thing. I think I took the fewer servers thing to be a smoke and mirrors tactic to make cutting down hours seem more PC I guess. I dunno where the fuck I was going with that really.

>>4996795
>jesus, people need jobs
Lol.

Fewer jobs means fewer people being able to afford to eat out

>>4996786
I work for a 5 unit restaurant group (fast foodish) and one of the managers told me to expect most of the staff to get cut in the next 6 months or so. Each store will have 9 full time employees only and if anyone takes on extra hours and crosses into full-time territory, it will be their last check. Food service is getting ready to really really change in the US.

>less jobs
>ever good

At most places I'd be opposed to this but considering how hard it is to even get service at Applebees, how long it takes to get the food (which is usually overcooked and yet cold) and how long it takes for them to finally get you your bill... I don't think it fucking matters, as long as there's still a bartender on-staff.

>>4996853
I think that is the American prayer lol
>jesus, are you there?
>people need jobs

>>4995798
Don't be such a putz. Of course they'll just train someone (manager and/or assistant manager) to troubleshoot, but that will still cost money. Plus, get ready for half ass trouble shooting, because those trainees won't remember half the shit they tell them and will be constantly looking things up in badly written manuals and getting on the phone with tech support from India or Malaysia who can barely speak English. At any rate, I really don't care what they do. I've never eaten in an Applebee's and I don't plan to ever eat in an Applebee's.

>>4996728
>>4996728
A million times THIS. It's amazing how easily persuaded people are to throw away the traits that actually make us civilized and human.

>>4996934
It will be a failover system just like blockbusters POS setup was. Thin clients and 2 redundant servers in the back, if 1 corrupts it'll switch over to the other one and "phone home" to get someone to fix it remotely. Barring a hardware failure there will be minimum training.

>>4996953
As long as they go out of business just like Blockbuster did, I'm happy.

>>4996941
>superficial interaction and giving charity to waitresses is what makes us human

>>4996960
>says the autist

>>4996983
Great comeback. Did you outgrow the "hurrr projecting much" phase?

>>4995261
As a chef I don't hate the waitstaff. They talk to assholes so I don't have to.

>>4996953
Does it warrant a high-availability config like that though when you can just wing it with wait staff?

I've actually been thinking about building a relatively cheap prototype of something automated for a few of the local restaurants around here and seeing if they'd be interested in purchasing one. It could save them a shit-ton of money in the long run.

>>4997005
I don't argue with idiots. I don't need a "comeback".

youd still have to deal with waitstaff actually bringing you your food no?

>>4996772
Jesus, you sound like me.
No amount of booze will drown the hate.
Fucking Entitled servers and there "Baww i only made $200 tonight, i need to buy groceries and stuff what am I going to do"
Fuck you bitch, You get cash in hand at the end of the day. Myself(Kitchen Manager) and the Server Manager fucking hate each other. She's Served there 20 years before coming the manager. Cunts, all of you.
Oh yeah dont get me started on the food costs...
I need a drink.

>>4995105
Red Robin has these, and they're shit. If you want to play games, the device will conveniently add $3 to your bill (seriously, they charge for it). And of course your distraction-addicted brats will be all over your ass until you pay up.

There was no food ordering, it just spams you the entire time. You still have to deal with a waitress stopping by every 3 minutes to ask how everything is or are you ready to order.

The screen is all greasy and unhygeinic.

It has a slot to swipe your card, avoiding you having to give your debit card to the staff and letting walk away out of site, but who cares. I rotated the fucker around so it faced away from the table.

They do make a goddamn tastey burger tho, and bottomless fries.

>>4997111
And also Wawa has them (convenient store with a Subway-like area to one side selling sammiches, soups, sides, and bulk deli products).

They are a perfect place for it. Cooks can keep on cookin so it doesn't take as long. And what I like is you can be as absolutely picky as you want to be without having to talk it out or look like a fool.... And just as long as you don't fall asleep, you have as much time as you need to change your mind and delete and item and start over. Perfect for building sandwiches. Ridiculous idea for a restaurant since their selection is limited and who makes that many modifications to a restaurant dinner order?

That's a pretty interesting idea, would be good if you can also just go and pick up the food yourself too. There may be fewer jobs but who would actually want to be waiter or a waitress in a chain place? It's more of a pain than it's worth trying to work with certain problem customers and they don't get paid even minimum wage. Would also end the tipping war and keep away those certain customers that would be a real problem in the first place that couldn't even be bothered to get up and take their own food.

>>4995105
YESSS!! Dine n' dash just got a lot easier with less waitresses looking at you!

>>4996960
#rekt

I worked as a garde manger in a VERY high end restaurant in San Francisco. I was responsible for all appetizers and several side dishes. I worked in a cramped, hot corner of a kitchen producing edible works of art for $9.00 an hour.

The fucking waiters brought this carefully crafted plate to the table about 10 yards away(smallish restaurant) and were rewarded with making my paycheck in tips EVERY FUCKING NIGHT.

Fuck wait staff. 9/10 times your food come to the table cold its because one of these assholes was busy having a smoke out back while the 3 people in the kitchen doing the actual work got all the blame for any problems.

>>4997338
you dont have to suck up to customers and laugh at their bullshit shut your mouth

>>4997346
Nope, but I have to work.

This is all implying of course that the general public knows how to use technology, which is the biggest fucking joke ever.

Have you seen these unwashed chucklefucks try to use a self-checkout at the store?
Half of them can't even read the fucking instructions on the screen, and the other half can't figure out how to put their money in.
The technology is nice on paper, but people need to understand that the main bulk of america (fat joke not intended) still doesn't even know how to use a computer

>>4997122

Now that I think about it Wawa has had those touchscreens for a really long time, or at least predating the mainstream ubiquity of tablets and smartphones anyway. I honestly can't even remember the last time I had to verbally order a hoagie there, or what the process was like.

>>4997346
The fuck I didnt?

Lemme say this again. VERY high end restaurant. Several times a week some trophy bitch and her dried up husk of a husband requested the appearance of one of the chefs, usually to thank us or just look cool for whoever they were with.

This meant that I had to stop in the middle of fucking service. Change into a clean pair of chef whites (the fucking neckerchief and everything), and go out there and deal with these assholes while tickets piled up at my station. Half the time the head chef had us take out an amuse bouche or some small dessert depending on if it was before or after a meal. And you know what? I didn't get a fucking tip for shit.

Suck it wait staff. I hope iPads take your jobs.

>>4996822
>leaving a longer paper trail than need be

You silly silly fucker

>>4995297
I worked minimum wage tech support before

I've seen this system in place at other restaurants (well, may be a different vendor, same idea though).

What's especially stupid is that the tablet automatically calculates an 18% tip on your TOTAL bill (including tax!), and you have to override it if you want to tip a different amount (or tip in cash, or not tip).

>>4995241
>sleekly-designed conveyors

NO!!! DRONES!!! DRONE DELIVERY IS THE FUTURE!!!!!

Then we don't even have to go to the restaurant. Just sit at home, punch order in on tablet, drone flies in through open window and sets GOAT DEEP DISH PIZZA on table, flies out. Credit card automatically charged (plus 20% tip for the drone, because batteries are expensive).

Only complication I could see is with specific orders.

And I don't mean simple things like medium-rare or whatnot.

I mean really autistic things like:
>no onions
>lightly toasted
>butter on one slice only
>no ingredients that contain eggs/dairy
>vegetables on the side
>substitutions
>etc.
Granted, these people shouldn't be dining in restaurants, but they do exist.

>>4997716
Moreso at places like Applebees where people show up because they're too lazy to microwave a TV dinner, not because they want a dining experience.

>>4997706
I'm still hoping that Amazon's Drone service is an elaborate joke. They'd have to deal with a whole lot of bureaucratic bullshit from the FAA.

>>4996786
Part time, full time, doesn't matter. Obamacare's employer fees are based on FTE, "full time EQUIVALENT". Ten waitresses working four hours a week each are one FTE. Two waitresses working twenty hours a week each are one FTE. One waitress working sixty hours per week is 1.5 FTE.

>>4997721
The customer is always ri- I mean entitled.

Many of them do think it's okay to be picky at low-end places. I was once at a McDonald's during lunch rush, and this lady held up the line with her anally-retentive order.

Couldn't stand her bullshit, so I left. On the bright side, she saved me from eating at McDonald's, my last choice for lunch, but her sense of entitlement was completely uncalled for in a fast food establishment.

If people can do this at McDonald's, they sure as hell will do it at Applebee's. Once again, they SHOULDN'T, but they do. And that's the reason why I think electronic orders will take some time to get used to. Because there are these fucks who still create a need for human interaction.

I would definitely like this sort of technology to take off, but there will always be that one thorn in the side.

>>4997724
Indoor drones don't come under the auspices of the FAA. They can only regulate the public airspace, not private indoor airspace.

But yeah, Amazon's announcement was just a publicity stunt to drive traffic to their site for "Cyber Monday!"

>>4995635
I saw a guy today buying a book entitled Tablets for Seniors and I realized that old people are legitimately flabbergasted by the advent of pushing buttons that do stuff.

>>4997737
Well, if Amazon's Drone service were real, they'd be traveling in public airspace quite regularly.

Also, I've never heard of a Drone that can last 30 minutes while carrying a load, and this is not taking the return trip into account. Ones I've seen typically last 10-15 minutes, and that's without carrying any loads.

>>4997743
No idiot, they're flabbergasted by the /absence/ of buttons they can push to do stuff. Tablets don't have buttons, I can't even explain to my mom who's not even 40 what a browser button is.

>>4995105
Elephant bar has this... It worked some what for my order. U can add extras and take off ingredients perfectly fine but I still got my order wrong soooo yeah ur still gonna have idiots in the kitchen who can't read. Also the food sucked there wouldn't recommend

>>4997752
The point is that generational trends have shifted in such a way that understanding how to operate technological device is ingrained in younger generations and the generation that never figured out how to set the fucking clock on their vcr now has to deal with a screen that flashes a bunch of pictures at them with the hopes that the legacy of Steve Jobs' simplification of technology is enough to allow even the technologically inept masses to expreience modernity

Also, that Boomers like to bitch about more current generations unceasingly with their narrow view of the world they created

>>4995261
I noticed alot of people who complain about bad service or shitty bitchy waitresses mention Applebee's alot. Could be that.

>>4997760
Elephant Bar is such a ripoff gimmicky place. It's like a Jungle themed Cheesecake Factory. Terribad.

>>4997779
Never been to cheesecake factory... But yeah elephant bar was a complete waste of time and money. Never again

>>4997785
>tfw you always thought cheesecake factory was a warehouse themed eatery that served cheesecakes on conveyor belts

I was so disappointed when I found out it wasn't

We have this everywhere in France.

I always use it.

>>4996728
>>4996941
>being a luddite

>>4996874
We should bring back railroad switch operators too.

Or maybe you should just get an education so you won't have to worry about your betters replacing you with a robot that does your job for free and without complaining.

>>4998687
>confusing luddites with humanists
>being this ignorant

>>4998698
Yes, because society works on the principle that EVERYONE can have only the best, cleanest, highest paying jobs, and there's no tiers or services that are needed to help everything to function normally.
Could you live in more of a fucking bubble?

>>4998764
>wanting to spend more time interacting wit strangers
>being this normalfag

>>4998767
You're right, we should never ever replace menial tasks with technology to make our lives more efficient.

>>4998767

Our worst jobs today are far better than the dirtiest, low paid jobs of the past. Stuff like coal mining and quarrying is far better thanks to machines and technology, and other professions, such as those of blacksmiths have been replaced by modern factories.

Fewer people work in those industries today but those people have other, better jobs. Working in KFC is infinitely better than having a mine cave in on you.

I was walking down Sukhumvit Soi 7 in Bangkok (Food World grocery store is there) when I saw that they were repairing the sewer. Some Thai guy was standing in waist-deep black sewer water with no protective gear on. Poor bastard.

I'm sure the Applebees waitresses would be qualified to do his job, or the job they do a block away on Soi 9.

>>4998399
>>4998402
Well, of course you do. And the reason is because your government makes it so expensive to hire and fire workers that touchscreen ordering systems are very much worthwhile to the company.

Oh, and as a result, your underclass and teenagers are even more unemployed than in the U.S.

In the U.S., it's fairly easy to hire and fire low-level workers, and customers often customize orders ("no ketchup, extra onions, I'm on Atkins so I don't want a bun"), so McD's hires dumbasses and high school students to work the counters.

>>4995231
If I could walk to the kitchen, give my order, pick it up, and fill my own drinks... I would. Waiters are literally pointless.

>>5001092
You seem very, very defensive. Has someone bruised your patriotism today? Need to talk?

>Eliminate tips
>Eliminate chances of disgusting teenagers spitting in food for fun
>Eliminate minority and lgbt waitresses and waiters forging offensive shit left by "bigoted" customers and stealing money
>Company can (but probably won't, greedy fucks) lower prices as a direct result

I'm very okay with this.

Correct response to this:
>let restaurants introduce this as they see fit, customers will respond to it based on whether they like it or not. If people hate it, or certain people hate it, then certain restaurants will continue to use waiters to cater to that need.

Incorrect response to this:
>they're taking muh jobs!

Also incorrect response to this:
>yes! they need to put this EVERYWHERE, and anyone who doesn't like it is a fucking luddite! Embrace the future, retards!

Technophilic communists are just as bad as anti-tech folks. If you introduce a product and people don't like it, then you should change it, or only cater to the niche that does like it. Don't stamp your feet and call the people who don't like it names and try to force them to change their mind. People can use whatever they damn well want to use.

I went there a few years back. We did not order any alcohol. Only 3 meals and 3 sodas. Some how the total came to over $100. I will never eat there again.

>>5001628
*tips fedora*

>>5001634
>We did not order any alcohol. Only 3 meals and 3 sodas. Some how the total came to over $100.

What was the "some how"? I'm always seeing Yelp reviews where idiots go "we only ordered x and the total "somehow" came out to over (insert huge amount here) as if the place was scamming them.

Either you looked at the menu with its clearly printed prices and ordered a bunch of food and drink and after whatever taxes and gratuities the total came out to that amount, or they charged you more than they advertised. So which is it? Shady business practices, or your poor financial planning?

>>5001628
>Implying desire is innate and considered rather than generated by market forces

>>5001628
well in my country it works everywhere
and where it's properly implemented in America it works everywhere
the only problem is when they half-ass it, so there's not much to wait and see about, it's something that's already been adequately tested

>>4995105
>Yes goy, it's wonderful that we are putting all these people out of the job!

For fucks sake, soon it's going to be so bad that kids will not be able to get any first shit tier job at all to get pocket change in high school.

>>5002836
my country has no tipping, a higher fixed minimum wage, more women out of work, and yet a lower overall rate of unemployment and poverty, yet we somehow managed to effectively use touchscreens, explain that

>>5002836

I bet chimney sweeps said the same thing when they were stopped from sending kids up chimneys.

>>5004293
but waittressing and whatnot doesnt have any proven connection to cancer...

I can't wait until families ruin every single one of the tablets in one night.
Do they really think American children can handle keeping their greasy, aggressive fingers off the expensive tech? That they won't get thrown on the floor or snapped in half because Timmy didn't get his sundae dessert?
What are they gonna do when the system or one of the tablets crashes or is broken? Just have someone sit in the kitchen all night waiting to bustle out there and fix it?

didnt uwink do this an then go out of business?

>>5004442
>Do they really think American children can handle keeping their greasy, aggressive fingers off the expensive tech?

children use tablets more than other age groups, if anything they would be the most careful

>What are they gonna do when the system or one of the tablets crashes or is broken?

replace it?

this idea has been around for like 10 years, dont act like even the most basic problems havent been figured out

Based Applebees. Holy fuck. I've only been there a handful of times because coworkers got to choose the lunch site, and was wholly unimpressed by the waitstaff each time. Took fucking forever to get attention. For our particular Applebees, this is the best possible move. Fuck those shitty bitches. I'm so down with robowaiter.

>>5004332
Give it time...

>>5004463
>children
>careful with anything

You've got to be fucking shitting me
Kids have absolutely NO respect for anything, theirs or not.

THEY BREAK EVERYTHING THEY FUCKING TOUCH

>>5004642
So basically kids=republicans?

>>4997760
The only time I ever ate at Elephant Bar, it was with my mother and her gay uncle. At dessert, he told us he had been living with AIDs for twenty years. My mother cried. The food was okay.

>>5004642
Kids in Japan are bigger shits than kids in America. Parents pretty much only discipline their kids when do something that directly affects another person they don't know. The tablets are built like tanks and they're fine in Japan.

>>4995594
well in real sushi joints they have the sushi plates on rotating belts that just go around and around the bar, and when you want one you just pluck it from the rotation. at the end, they count up your plates to tally your bill.

>>4996795
this is what they said when cars replaced carriages. when computers replaced typewriters. when dvds replaced video. its creative destruction through the nonstop crisis of capitalism. some call it progress. by any name, its inexorable. unstoppable. ineluctable. darwinian. adapt or die are your choices. crying maudlin and nostalgic tears is not.

>>4995716
is that a hegel quote?

>>5005695
in such "real sushi joints" they usually also have a touch screen to special order plates, because not every dish is in constant, or adequate, circulation

>>5006060
Usually you yell out to the chef. Touch screens are pretty rare outside of the chain family ones

>>5005695
What do you mean, "real sushi joints"? Even in Japan conveyor belt sushi is a gimmick. It's for when you want to have a variety of things and are willing sacrifice freshness (some of that shit could have been out on the belt for hours) and cut quality for convenience.

A sushi restaurant in my area already does this idea, and it's a pretty good idea.

>>5004332

Then why do we pay them so much in tips?

>>5007405
because they hold our food hostage