/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>4934326
Its kinda like a Gyro.

Just go to your nearest Arab restaurant and order a delicious shwarma sandwich.

The secret is in the meat.

>>4934338
>>4934343

This. It's called shawarma/gyro in the states.

>>4934338
>>4934343
>>4934360
>thinking shawarma or gyro are anything like the döner
Ameritards in charge of foreign food.

>>4934326
>but i dont think so.

>>4934362

Why are you shitposting, anon?

>Doner kebab (/ˈdɒnər kəˈbæb/; Turkish: döner or döner kebap, [doˈneɾ̝̊ keˈbap]) is a Turkish dish made of meat cooked on a vertical spit, normally lamb but also a mixture of veal or beef with these, or sometimes chicken. The dish is also widely known by its Arabic name "shawarma" or the Greek name "gyros".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab

>>4934362

This.
Döner is far ahead from shawarma or gyros.
You have to taste it to get the awesomness of this "fast food".

>>4934326
Whats great about the Doener?

No Corners. You can't corner the Doener

>>4934383

If you tried shawarma served in an Arabic restaurant or gyros from a greek restaurant, you know the difference between a döner and shittier fakes.
It tastes completly different, plus you will never get a good döner in the states. it s even hard to get a good döner outside of germany.

>>4934389

>You can only get it here, it's impossible to replicate, it's not good unless it meets my definition of good.

Yeah, okay.

>>4934394

Döner is science bro.
Complex science.

>>4934407
>science bro
You mean
>broscience

>>4934383
They use completely different spices in the meat, and completely different sauces to go with it. They taste nothing alike. You might as well say "you want a döner, just get a Reuben sandwich, it's meat, cheese, sauce and some shredded green stuff, same thing really".

>>4934412

+ Doener is cut more thinly than Gyros or Shawarma in my opinion.

>>4934389
>he doesn't like gyros.
ur a fag.
Since you're german I ebt you hate turks too, them and every other ethnicity.

>>4934426
It's okay to hate dirty immigrants but love their food.

>>4934326

>Germany
>Doener
>Kebab

I don't have a remove image

>>4934426

Im a Russian living in Germany.
And i didnt say that i dont like gyros, I just know that it is completly different and not comparable to döner. .

Angry lazy Greek spottet?

>>4934449
>angry lazy Greek
That's a bit redundant.
>implying there's any other kind of Greek

American here.
It is true, doener is awesome and not similiar to gyros or sharwama. I tried it for the first time when I was in Berlin and god damn, I loved it.

I was in germany few weeks ago and ate 2 döner kebaps every day for a week.

Good shit, can't find anything that tasted similar here in Sweden where we have jihad everywhere.

But yeah, gyro is pretty similar, but there was something different with their meat..

500-600g for 3 euro was awesome though.

>>4934455
Why? It's just a sandwich, can't be that good. Might just as well make yourself a PB&J.

>>4934449
I'm so sorry, you're right they're utterly different and I too like both, although I think shawarma are inferior. Bored Englishman.

>>4934466
>there was something different with their meat
No pork and more goat.
Also different spices.

>>4934468are you salty? it is that good

I think people are a little exaggerating by saying it's not like gyro or shawarma. It is similar, in many ways.

I think what sets it apart, something that you'll likely not find in North America at all is the bread it's placed in. Imagine eating a gyro inside of a panini bread. It's fucking amazing really.

>>4934474

I like my doener with veal,

>>4934326
Kebap can either be really awesome or total bullshit.

But you really can´t tell how the the kebap will just by looking.I pay 2 Euro in my favorite kebap place and shit´s awesome, the meat, bread, sauce everything.

Theres like in every bigger city in Germany a expensive turkish restaurant you may pay 8 Euro for a kebap but than you will know what a good one tastes like.

In general turkish cusinie is heavily underrated, I ate shit in Istanbul you guys cant imagine.

>>4934474
Whatever it was it tasted sweeter and it felt more meaty, tender.

Fucking hell, now I'm real hungry. That simple mixture of meat, sallad and sauce inside soft bread is great.

>>4934489

True about the Turkish cuisine.
I fucking love adana kebab or köfte....dayum

>>4934497
Gyros have the best pita, shame it's hard to get outside of Greece. Very easy to make though. Every recipe says bake in the oven and fry but i've had better reproductions just frying the leavened dough.

>>4934489
Some of the best stuff is the simplest tbh. One of my favourite things was whitebait out of some little place in the market behind the grand bazaar, near the stoves and right next to the river. I think I had bad luck though, all my non-kofte dindins were expensive and I only had one really nice meal.

>>4934362
more like you goddamned unwashed foreigners telling us some bullshit story when we ask the name of something. you fuckers lie more than a goddamn drunken red injun.

that being said, i would greatly enjoy some gyro right now.

Canadian here.
I stayed in Kreuzberg for 1 week and next to my hostel was a "doener" shop names Mustafass gemuse kebab. I was surprised when i saw the queue...there were like - im not even kidding - 20 people waiting to buy a doener. So i queued too, and every minute waiting for this döner was a well spent minute. pic related, i googled it.

>>4934562
every time when i am in Berlin

>yfw an American has never tried a European micro burgery dish
>yfw they dont accept the fact that European micro burgeries have been the worlds most innovative force in burger cookery
>yfw they get all uppity about how they invented the burger and how burgers are an icon of American culture and thus unmatched
>yfw they dont even know that the hamburger was invented in, guess what, Hamburg, a German city

>>4934678
>yfw i've never once heard anyone claim American has invented the hamburger
>yfw this is common fucking knowledge where it's made
>tfw this is bait and you're just going hurrrr americans
>tfw we actually do accept that you assholes can cook

muhh, looks like shit.
3/10, wouldnt eat.

>inb4 nazis cannot cook

>>4934678
You're a moron. Hamburgers were created by german butchers in America from leftover beef cuts put into a sandwhich. They were named after hamburg because german immigrants
>inb4 troll

>>4934687
is retarded, and I hope he isnt american because goddamn I have to live in the same country his ignorant ass does

>>4934687
>>4934678
The hamburger sandwich was invented in Hartford Connecticut in 1916. Prior, hamburgers were a pan fried patty of beef mince served on a plate. They are now called 'hamburg steaks' when served in this manner. When made with onions mixed into the mince and accompanied with gravy or brown sauce, it is called a Salisbury steak. The Salisbury steak was invented in 1888 in either Dobbs Ferry, Schenectady or Albany New York.

>>4934703
No. It was invented by a French immigrant, actually. Hamburg steaks were already a well-established meal at the time and especially popular in France, so much so that Escoffier considered it amongst the classics of Haute cuisine.

iskender kebab is best döner kebab

fuck that pita shit, at least wrap it in a lavash or something

>>4934703
>>4934714
>>4934717
Actually, hamburgers were invented in 1784 by the German Otto Freiherr von Hamburg zu Lichtenaue who liked a dish of simple pan fried minced beef along with lettuce, tomatoes and onions. Now he usually liked to eat while he was playing cards with his noble friends but he did not want to put the cards away while eating so he ordered his cook to come up with something. The cook formed patties and assembled the burger as we know it today. It has been called "A Hamburg zu Lichtenau sandwich" since then or, short, a "Hamburger". They call it "beef wellington ensemble with lettuce" in Britain since WW1 though.

>Americans in charge of cuisine history

>>4934383
They're similar but definitely not the same. Different seasoning, different way of cutting the meat, different sauces etc.

>>4934726
lavas sucks :/

>>4934737

stop lying idiot. everyone knows that we americans invented burgers - sadly. go away with your pseudo historical buger story.

>>4934760

3/10

>>4934760
>counter troll detected

>>4934737
ISNT THAT HOW SANDWICHES WERE INVENTED, BUT YOU JUST CHANGED THE NAMES LIKE A BUTTHURT YUROPOOR.

>>4934562
i stayed at that exact same hostel. i just followed the queue which lead me to Curry36.
pic related, currywurst with steamed onions. was delicious.

>>4934784

Germanfag here.
Normally I like the western german currywurst more than the berlin one, but curry36 is too damn delicious.

ohhh germany, my fast food heaven <3

>>4934783
Hamburgers were invented first, so your argument is invalid.

>>4934326
Lemme show you real food, not your disgusting sandwich.

I could cum over this tasty bread filled with even more delicious meat and vegetables 24/7

How much do you pay for your favorite döner?
2,50 here.

>>4934837
Forgot the tasty picture.

>>4934841
that does look tasty

>>4934784
>Staying at a hostel

Haven't you seen Hostel, dumbass?

Britfag here. Haven't had a greasy Doner in years - they're the ultimate past drinking food.

>>4934430
Fun fact.
Doner kebab is NOT a Turkish thing.

It was invented and introduced by german enterpreneur and it simply catched on

>>4934882
don't worry, i won't fall for their tricks. if a hot girl comes up to me and says she wants the D, i know that can only mean she wants to have me brutally murdered.

I heard the same stuff like OP for years. When i vistied my aunt in LA I found this doener restaurant.
eatatspitz com

it was okay, but highly overpriced (probably because it is LA), I paid 9 fucking USD for a doener...

The best part of döner is the salad, but without the meat, it's not filling at all. I wish more places would just substitute falafel instead of offering it in a separate dish.
Can we talk about how it's impossible to get döner for less than 3€? It's literally greens and scraps of meat stuffed in bread, why would it be so much?

>>4936513

Normal price in my city is around 3.50€.
Some sell it also for less, like 2,50, 2,80, 2,00 , 1,50.

If they have better meat with a good quality, the price is higher(?). there are also a lot of different types of skewer, some are more expensive, some less.

>>4936513
>why would it be so much?
Because it's a pound of greens and scraps of meat stuffed in bread. How is €3 a lot of money anyway? €3 is ridiculously cheap for a full meal, no matter the amount of effort put into it. Are you 10 years old and living off of pocket money?

>>4936572

This is almost certainly the guy who was claiming the other day that an $8 Chipotle burrito is exclusive high class dining for the very wealthy.

He could also be a troll, or a deranged old miser.

>>4934326

Döner meat wrapped in a lahmacun is even better.

>>4936588

>tfw no good döner place in your stupid university town

Donner's are shit tier here in the UK, though it's just nomenclature.
Shawarma's are the real Turkish deal and fucking delicious, dat mace.

>>4934326
Is it any different from what we can get here in Denmark?

I used to live right next to a place called Bazar West in Aarhus, which was sandnigger infested to the core, but made it as authentic you could get it outside of Arabia.

doner meat on a rotating spit. can it be replicated in a conventional oven?

>>4936719

Roast it in a loaf pan on low heat in the oven, then slice and broil chunks until crispy.

Basically, this: http://www.seriouseats.com/2013/05/food-lab-tacos-al-pastor.html but substitute in the particular meat type and seasonings for whatever variant you want.

>>4934326
here's why it is awesome.
Döner Kebab is just a specific turkish preparation for meat grilled on a spit. If you order a Döner in Germany, this is what you get:
a quarter flatbread (or bread roll of some kind) filled with a ton of meat, iceberg lettuce, chopped red and white cabbage, tomato and cucumber, onion and a variety of delicious sauces.
A döner is so big that it WILL fill you up, guaranteed. And you can get one almost anywhere for 3,00€ to 3,50€. You can customize it if you don't like a certain kind of meat, vegatable or sauce and it's done within two minutes.
Any questions?

>>4934326

german here.

sigh.. well. Doener is not awesome. it just has its popularity because you got salad and can choose different souses to meat served inside of one piece of bread. for a cheap price. that is all.

all other fast food in Germany is usually dry sandwich or burger shit. if you want a salad or different ingredients you cant have them unless you pay extra. and even then you need to find a table where you have to put all shit open. Doener is just this all in one piece.

i used to like it few years ago because it was really different but now i cant eat it anymore because meat in Doener is utter quality. the salad usually some cheap vegetables mixed with low level souses bought in supermarket. it barely taste like a food anymore. not to mention the Arabs or Turks trying to rape you off with cents. old times when Doener was good are gone. people eat it only because alternatives are even worse and more expensive.

my usual fast food now is soup or pot kitchen next to my workplace. you need more time to eat and be more carefully with it but at least they cook with natural ingredients and not with caned souses and meat which looks like it was glued together. when being in the City then i usually eat salad with Grill-wurst and fries.

>>4936743

Not every Doener shop uses low quality meat/salad.

>>4936743
>i cant eat it anymore because meat in Doener is utter quality
>mfw
Wenn du ein bisschen über den Tellerrand hinausblickst, gibts hier auch besseres Fast Food. Das einzige was die Amis uns vorraushaben, ist mexikanisches Essen und eine etwas größere Auswahl an Burgerketten, die eh nur das gleiche anbieten wie McD und BK. Wir haben dafür den Döner, und ehrlich gesagt, es kommt darauf an wo du ihn kaufst. Wenn du Pech hast, kriegst du genau das, wie du es beschrieben hast. Schlechtes Fleisch, olles Gemüse, billige Soße. Aber wenn du das Glück hast, nen vernünftigen Dönerladen zu erwischen, ist das Gesamtpaket perfekt. Schnell, lecker, satt.

>>4936761

Did he just deny the holocaust?

>>4936743
Ich war nie n besonders großer Dönerfan aber du hörst dich an wie eine zickende Müslitunte. Und lern2english wenn du unbedingt auf nem englischsprachigen imageboard posten willst.

>>4936764
Yes. He also insulted your mother. And your dog. In fact, he said they're one and the same thing.

>>4936764
I'll summarize what I just said to him for you.
>you can get good fast food in Germany
>only things America has that we don't have are mexican food and more McD and BK lookalikes
>there are good and bad döner shops
>bad döners suck
>good döners are perfect

>>4936768
>>4936761
>>4936743

calm down my german fellows

>>4936764
The German ß ligature stands for SS. SS stands for "Schutzstaffel." The Schutzstaffel was the "defence corps" of Nazi Germany. Nazis deny the holocaust.
Anytime you see ß, it's a German covertly expressing his holocaust denial. And now you know.

>>4936761
>>4936768

>turkish minority strikes again.

hahaha.. anyway

the quality of doener dropped hard last years. sure someone will tell you to travel into some Berlins gourmet quarters where all high level politicians use to buy their doeners but what it comes on is that everywhere else its not that good quality unless you find some Turk who is trying to gain customers by spending more money on ingredients.

>>4936761
>Wenn du ein bisschen über den Tellerrand hinausblickst

dude.. its about fast-food next to your workplace or on the way to home. not some fancy restaurant you travel a hour to feed there and then blarck around your friends that you can afford the costly food.

picture related. this is what they put doener together today. fucking minced meat. when i used to love it it was finest parts of beef or lamb. especially lamb doener was awesome. it is gone today.

>>4936778

not all germans eat this one dude.
being westfalle i prefer more beans with wurst.

>>4936781

what the fuck?

>>4934466
Too bad you only get the useless muslims, serves you right for being a bunch of faggots.

>>4934466

Gyros has spicy meat, mostly pork. bit dry for my taste. but when you can drink some vine or beer to it it will became very awesome. also one of cheap food in Germany. btw its bit different than in Balkans or Greece.
you can get sauerkraut-salad to it haha

>>4936798

holy shit. is this food? they really dropped holy fries on filthy carton!

>>4934389
>It's hard to get good non-German food outside of Germany

Doner sucks in NL, i prefer Gyros here. The doner in Germany is kinda different in my opinion.

>>4937044
All depends where you get it. Up here we have some pretty decent Kebab businesses.

On a sidenote, I made chicken kebab myself tonight. Pretty good.

Döner originally came from Bursa in the 19th century, but I think Shawarma could be older, not sure. Then some Turk in Berlin (who died two weeks ago by the way) came up with the idea to put it inside of a Turkish flatbread so it could be a takeaway food and thus much more profitable.

Damn germans copying our food and claiming it s german..

>>4934430

>>4939195
germany is half turkish already, shut up

>yfw Americans cannot pronounce ü, ä, ö

>>4939777
>mfw antiquated umlauts are still being used

You're like the brits who don't understand why we dropped the "u" after every "o"

>>4939777
>dünäör

>>4934484
imagine eating gyros meat chopped on a toasted sub roll with corned beef and roast beef

>>4939784
Silly and unnecessary

>>4939784
That looks terrible