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Can someone explain to me reasonably why do Asians use chopsticks instead of "Western" kitchenware?

Don't come with the tradition argument - there have been many practices throughout every culture's history that have become totally obsolote with the introduction of more convenient methods for the same goal, and honestly, I cannot imagine a more inconvenient method for puting food into your mouth than using two sticks with one hand.

And don't come with the expensiveness of Western cutlery either - Eastern economies have been the very definition of low-cost light industry producing - for instance - fucking kitchenware for the last century or so.

>> No.4646690

i always assumed it was how they prepared and presented the food. bite sized pieces, noodles, matchstick cut, etc. They all seem easier to pic up with chopsticks.

>> No.4646700

They're easier to use and more functional.

>> No.4646701

well, it could be that the food is prepared that way BECAUSE of the chop sticks

>> No.4646702

A fork is 4 sticks attached to one big one.

Chopsticks are 2 sticks attached to a big one that requires a bit more maneuverability.

Not much difference if you've got practice with both.

>> No.4646709

>>4646690
>They all seem easier to pic up with chopsticks.

Are you high?

One of the main ingredients of Asian cuisine is rice - how, in the name of fuck, is it easier to eat rice with two sticks than to scoop up the grains from the button of the bowel or the plate with a spoon or a fork?

>> No.4646715
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4646715

>forks
>convenient

Shit cracka, your eurocentrism is showing.

>> No.4646718

>>4646709
i don't have much issue picking up rice with chopsticks. Also, they like to lift bowls to their face and push it into their mouth.
They also use spoons, you know.

>> No.4646719

>>4646709
well since you apparently have never had rice prepared by an asian. see, it sticks together, so they pick it up in bite sized clumps.

>> No.4646723

>>4646709

Asians tend to serve their rice much stickier than is traditionally served in western dishes. It tends to clump up really well and is able to be picked up in decent groups.

Even if it isn't, then they tend to eat it by basically using the sticks to shovel it out of the bowl into their mouth.

>> No.4646727

>>4646709

Japanese portions are small. Its hard to tell from pictures but rice is actually served in thimbles and eaten grain by grain. Its easier to grab one grain at a time with chopsticks than a fork, which is too wide to fit in Japanese bowls.

>> No.4646737

>>4646700
How is it easier to use if people actually have to learn how to use these fucking things?

Forks have no learning curves mate, neither do spoons. And learning to usage of the knife+for combo is not much of a hidden Western wizardry either - it's a matter of acquiring the knowledge of cutting shit up. You know, stuff we picked up 2,5 million years ago.

>> No.4646741

I live in an asian community and basically raised by japanese fobs. Cousins and I were always taught never to shovel food into our mouths or we'll choke and it's really bad manners. Does the stereotype only come from anime or something?

>> No.4646744

i prefer wooden chopsticks to anything

I hate putting metal in mouth it nulls the flavor

>> No.4646753

>>4646719
I have, and despite the fact it sticks together, I still don't see how is it easier to pick the smaller chunks up with two sticks than to scrape up with with a fork or a spoon.

>> No.4646757

chop sticks are more versatile and convenient. forks are primitive, a lot of the time you need to use a knife together with it because it's not flexible like chopsticks. you also can't use forks as cooking utensils, but chopsticks are used all the time in cooking

>> No.4646760

>>4646744
Yeah, it's not like we haven't invented flavorless coating for cutlery or already flavorless plastic kitchenware decades ago.

>> No.4646764

>>4646741
Pretty much, the only time i have ever seen asians put a bowl to their face is to drink soup.
Also OP it is because they are barbaric heathens.

>> No.4646766

>>4646678
>Don't come with the tradition argument
Bro this is the only real explanation. Eastern cultures have history shoved up their ass.

>> No.4646773

>>4646753

That;s because you're a white boy and don't know how to use chop sticks well.

>mfw white people coming into dim sum and everyone laughing at them when they request forks

>> No.4646774

>>4646737
>implying you don't have to learn how to use a fork and spoon and knife

>> No.4646776

>>4646757
>you also can't use forks as cooking utensils

Non-conductive handles. Also, haven't you seen fucking barbecue forks?

>> No.4646779

white people:

>HURR DURR STAB FOOD WITH STICK

asian master race:

>pick up food with two sticks

>> No.4646780

>>4646764
This. Chopsticks are cheaper than cutlery, and thus more suitable for the primitive Asian savages.

>> No.4646790

>>4646773
>everyone laughing at them when they request forks
hah, i'm white and i laugh at these people. going places where you can't even use the fucking silverware is a disgrace. i'd love to see those people IN china.

>>4646757
>you need to use a knife together with it because it's not flexible like chopsticks

no, you use a knife with it because you need to fucking cut something. serve some chinese person a 16oz ribeye and tell me how those chopsticks work out.

>> No.4646791

>>4646776

Again, barbecue forks are not as efficient as the chop stick equivalent - tongs. Please don't tell me you stab your steaks and chicken before resting

>> No.4646797

>>4646774
Again, if you have learned cutting shit up, either for cooking or for some other practice, you have learned how to use the knife and AGAIN the usage of forks do not require any additional skills to begin with. Putting the two together may be a problem for 3 year old, but I have seen 6 year old Asian kids struggling with their retarded little sticks, while European kids the same age are completely capable with the knife + fork combo.

>> No.4646805

>not eating with your hands

you plebs disgust me

>> No.4646813

>>4646805
>africans calling anyone else disgusting
Don't you have an infant to rape?

>> No.4646822

>>4646791
>Please don't tell me you stab your steaks and chicken before resting

Hey, dude, I'm not the one who refuses to use the more convenient tool. But please, tell me, what do Asians do, when they are served a steak or a healthy size of fish fillet?

>> No.4646827

>>4646822

They don't get served giant hunks of meat, they serve it already cut into pieces. Never been to korean bbq? or a sushi bar? You obviously don't even know how to use chopsticks

>> No.4646831

>>4646827
a fork can eat small pieces of meat, as well as large pieces of meat if necessary
chopsticks can only eat small pieces of food, and this system of eating provides no possible method of cutting

i thought chopsticks were supposed to be MORE versatile?

>> No.4646834

heh, asians are too dumb to carve anything but a pointy stick.

>> No.4646839

>>4646805
Ethiopian master race

Your hands are the most articulate and versative cutlery you have.

>> No.4646840

>>4646827
see
>>4646831

Check and mate.

>> No.4646842

>>4646839
they can also be used effectively as toilet paper!

>> No.4646844

>>4646822
Asians serve food cut up into smaller chunks. It's probably a reason as to why they aren't as fat. If you are eating piece by piece, you don't feel like you haven't finished your food. If you order a massive steak, you feel like you wasted money if you don't finish it. If you are eating it portioned up, you generally finish when you are full.

If you can't flake your fish with chopsticks, I don't want to be eating it.

>> No.4646848

>>4646844
we're not talking about portion sizes in this thread, we're talking about the versatility of our eating utensils.

>> No.4646852

>>4646831

try eating sushi with a fork

try eating hot pot with a fork

chopsticks only use one hand what makes you think we can't use a knife too? forks are shit and anyone that still uses them is a dumbass. eat shit WHITE BOI

>> No.4646856

Asians use forks and knives if served Western food like steaks. I think some have a little trouble with using it, but a lot of Asians adapt well to forks, spoons and knives.

Chopsticks are primarily used at home or at Chinese/Korean/Japanese restaurants because the food is conveniently suited for such utensils, even the rice. Using chopsticks are still practiced today because when you get the hang of it, it's actually very easy to eat with it (if the food is suited for it, of course).

So western food, especially huge chunks = use appropriate utensils.

Asian food = use appropriate utensils or whatever you feel comfy with. Eating noodles with chopsticks is fucking ace.

>> No.4646859

>>4646852
>try eating sushi with a fork
>try eating hot pot with a fork
honestly, how are either of these even remotely difficult?

>> No.4646864

>>4646852
uhm, if you can't eat those things with a fork, you may be mentally or physically deficient.

it's not about whether you can or cannot use a knife, because a knife isn't a part of your eating utensils. a fork, on the other hand, is paired with a knife all the time.

ITT: mad asians who need someone else to cut their food for them.

>> No.4646865

>>4646859
Try eating sushi with a fork. It can get fucking messy and just ruins the sushi.

Well, if you don't know how to use chopsticks, then by all means use a fork. But you'd fare well with your bare hands.

>> No.4646866

>please explain things to me without bringing up any of the perfectly legitimate explanations - OP

>>4646773
I'm white, live in my city's Chinatown and have numerous Asian friends of different descents. Personally, I get offended as fuck when I'm out eating at an Asian place and the server brings me a fork or asks me if I want one.

>> No.4646871

>>4646864
oh, and using a knife with chopsticks would be a pain for many people, because they're used in the dominant hand. a fork, on the other hand, is not, and the dominant hand (which will be better at cutting) will be more well suited to using the knife

>> No.4646872

Oh and point of fact:
You only stab a fork into your food when you are using it to hold down something to cut it.

>> No.4646875

>>4646859
>>4646864

It's much easier to eat them with chopsticks over a fork. If I ever saw someone eating sushi with a fork I seriously would start laughing

>> No.4646877

>>4646856
But that's my whole fucking point. The Western set (knife+fork+spoon) is universal already while the Eastern (chopsticks+spoon) is essentially useless outside of its own cuisine. Why do Asians still use chopsticks then?

>> No.4646879

>>4646864
What the fuck are you on about? A lot of asians can eat those with a fork, except for sushi which is fucking retarded with a fork (might as well use your hand).

>> No.4646883

>>4646865
>Try eating sushi with a fork. It can get fucking messy and just ruins the sushi.
It's easy as hell. I usually use a fork because the container I typically mix wasabi and soy/oyster sauce in is too tight of a fit for rolls held on the sides. You just don't know how to use a fork mate.

>> No.4646892

>>4646875
regardless of difficulty, the fork+knife CAN do things that chopsticks can't. and the whole fucking argument for chopsticks is supposed to be their versatility.

>> No.4646894

>>4646877

BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO EAT WITH CHOPSTICKS WHEN EATING THEIR OWN CUISINE YOU RETARD. JUST LIKE EATING A STEAK IS EASIER WITH A FORK AND KNIFE IT IS ALSO EASIER TO EAT SUSHI WITH CHOPSTICKS. HOLY FUCK YOU'rE RETARDED.

HURRRRRRRRRR WHAT IS DIFFERENT CULTURES

>> No.4646899

>>4646894
you're not too bright, are you? this entire thread has been about which is an objectively better set of utensils, so the "hurr different cultures, dont compare them" statement is a complete waste of time.

>> No.4646900

>>4646877
Did you even fucking read the responses in this thread? Some foods are not best eaten with a Western set. These Asian families eat noodles and other Asian food that are best suited with chopsticks. You think they don't use Western utensils when they eat Western food?

Chopsticks are useless outside its cuisine, but their food 90%+ of the time is their cuisine, so it's only understandable that they use utensils that suit their cuisine. A lot of Asian families don't eat steaks and shit all the time.

>> No.4646901

Because "Asians" identify with using chopsticks more than western cutlery because it's a significant part of their history, and because they serve the function perfectly - from the point of view of their cuisine, better than cutlery. Them being WESTERN and all, you fucking shitleaking mutant crack trollop.

Is this really what /ck/'s trolling level has degraded to? The basest of intentional logical fallacies, the one single worst troll line of "hurp durp I am stupid on purpose"? You really know things are bad when even the trolls start falling apart.

>> No.4646902

>>4646883

>mixing wasabi and soy/oyster sauce

Know how I can tell you're a white cracker that can't use chopsticks?

>> No.4646908

>>4646902
I know how to use them, and I also know what I dip them is "wrong".

Guess how many fucks I give.

>> No.4646910

>>4646899

>guys why do asians use chopsticks to eat asian food when forks and knife is so much easier to eat steaks with?

>> No.4646911

I'm Chinese, don't really care either way. Stabbing shit is easier, the exception might be soups or something.

>> No.4646912

>>4646908
Oh, and every once in a while I eat the pickled ginger on the sushi after I dip it.

>> No.4646913
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4646913

>>4646700
>easier to use
>more functional

You've obviously never seen and/or used a spoon before.

>pic semi-related

>> No.4646915

>>4646883
No, you don't know how to use a chopstick. Use the appropriate utensil, moron. Like how one uses a fork and a knife when eating up steak.

>> No.4646916

>>4646899

They're better at different things. You're trying to compare apples to oranges

>> No.4646917

>>4646877
>>4646900

Never once in my life I had a problem using the Western set of kitchenware for eating Eastern cuisine. I eat noodles the same way as I eat pasta, if the sushi falls apart because of the fork, it was a poorly prepared piece of sushi to begin with.

>> No.4646918

>>4646910
no, the question was,

>guys what do asians do when they have to eat a steak?

oh, they use a fork and knife, you say? gee, i can't think of any reason where i'd be forced to switch utensils like that.

>> No.4646919

>>4646916
the point stands that anything chopsticks CAN do, a fork/knife set can also do. meanwhile, the reverse is not true.

>> No.4646920
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4646920

>or a healthy size of fish fillet?

Is that even a serious question? You pick it appart. With your chopsticks.

>> No.4646921

>>4646915
Aww, you're cute.

I also sometimes get General Tso's Chicken and some sushi, then dip the sushi in that sauce.

>> No.4646922

>>4646913
Try eating noodles with a spoon

>> No.4646924

>>4646916
>comparing apples to oranges

Yeah, you're stupid.

>> No.4646925

>>4646842
As long as you wash your hands, and don't cross contaminate hands, you're good.

>> No.4646927

>>4646921
Good for you, really.

>> No.4646931

>>4646925

righty for eating, lefty for wiping

>> No.4646936

>>4646773
do you eat with your hands when you go to indian restaurants for a curry?

>> No.4646937

Asians have a different style of food all together.
I wouldn't go at a bowl of pho with a fork and knife just like I wouldn't go at a steak with some chopsticks.

>> No.4646938

>>4646936
Fuck yes I do.

What do you think flatbreads are for!?

>> No.4646942

OP here, I came to the conclusion that it's peer pressure. Too many Asians use these inconvinient pieces of shit so the sensible minority among them have been always oppressed and now that they are embarrassed of how retarded they were they argue with bullshit like "tradition" and "versatility". It's like Muslims and their suicide bombers and Americans with their clapping at the end of movies - they cannot help it.

>> No.4646946

>>4646936

yeah. do you eat steak with a spoon?

>> No.4646948

I like chopsticks because they force me to eat more slowly, so I actually savor the food and enjoy the taste instead of just shoveling it down.

>> No.4646949

>>4646942
I'm guessing the most Asian thing you've ever eaten was a kebab , right?

>> No.4646954

>>4646948
I hope you're not eating non-Asian dishes with chopsticks. Because eating an Asian dish with chopsticks shouldn't force you to slow down.

>> No.4646961

>>4646779
White People Master Race:

>Leave bowl and/or plate on the table where it belongs.

Yellow Scum Bag Asians:

>AWWW RET ME USE MY CHOPSTICKS SO I CAN HAVE MY HEAD INSIDE MY BOWR AND SHOVER DA FOOD DOWN MY THROAT WIF MAH SOPHISTICATED CHOPSTICKS

There. I fixed your post for you.

>> No.4646965

>>4646922
I have and do all the time? What's so hard about breaking the noodles into smaller pieces before you make them?

>> No.4646966

>>4646954

I'm not terribly adept with them.

>> No.4646967

>>4646965
Well, you can pick up more strands of noodles at a time with less effort than if you broke it up into smaller pieces before scooping it.

>> No.4646979

>>4646741
It's a Chinese thing.

>> No.4646997
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4646997

>eating noodles like a mongloid instead of twirling them on a fork

>> No.4646999

>>4646997
It gets difficult when you're half way into the bowl and you're trying to catch them with a fork while they're floating around in broth.

>> No.4647010

ITT: people with no hand eye coordination.

>> No.4647011

i am asian, i find chopsticks more precise and easier to use for 90% of food, mainly anything not large pieces of meat or liquid.

>> No.4647029

ITT: Dumbass Americans who can't figure out how to use chopsticks properly

>> No.4647042

Here's a perfect example.
Two of my friends and I were eating at a chinese place the other night. One of my friends can't use chopsticks.
We ordered some dumplings and some crab rangoon as appetizers, and when it was brought to the table, we all took some to put on our plates. My friend who can't use chopsticks had a really hard time trying to pick up the soft dumplings and the crispy wontons without destroying them with his fork, and got all pissed. My other friend and I had zero problems picking up the food easily and in tact and transferring it to our plates. Chopsticks are there for a reason. Learn to use them and stop being a narrow-minded ass.

>> No.4647054

>>4647042
Stop being a fuckwit and use a fork.

>> No.4647058

HOW JAPANESE EAT SOUP WITH CHOPSTICKS
PICK UP WATER LIQUID WITH CHOPSTICKS? NOT SPOON? HOW GET LIQUID IN MOUTH
CHOPSTICKS CAN PICK UP LIQUID??
NO???
YESS???????
HOW?
HOW DO THIS
HOW DO THIS THING?
DO SOUP NOT EXIST IN ASIAN?
HELP UNDERSTAND ME THIS

>> No.4647060

>>4647054
I use the proper utensils for the proper foods. Learn some manners and etiquette, you uncultured buffoon.

>> No.4647068

>>4646894
>dat small 'r'

>> No.4647069

>>4647058
Chopsticks are hollow. They use them as straws to have the liquid, and pick up the solid parts normally.

>> No.4647073

They used to use forks and spoons in China to eat, and chopsticks to cook. It just kind of ended up that they would eat with the chopsticks too, to save having to swap to fork and knife. Spoons are still used.

The cuisine there does not necessitate a fork and/or knife. Perhaps it is easier, but it's not necessary. Why would they swap?

>> No.4647075

>>4647069
What this man said.
God, some people are really stupid

>> No.4647082

>>4647069
R-really?

>> No.4647103

>>4647082
What, you live in a flyover state or something? That's why there's always this horrible "SLLLLRRRRPPP" sound going on when Japanese people eat ramen. Gotta get that broth, yo.

>> No.4647106

>>4647069
No they aren't.

>> No.4647116

>>4647106
>implying chopsticks aren't all traditionally naturally hollow
>all made from hollow bamboo wood
>cuisine centered around chopsticks has a cup of miso soup accompanying every single meal
>no
getaloadofthisguy.jpg

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>>4647116
Are you fucking retarded? Chopsticks aren't a quarter foot wide, they're made from flattened bamboo not the whole damn stalk.

And they use a spoon, like pic related.

>> No.4647154

>>4647058

They use spoons you dipshit.

I'm American, and find this thread horribly embarrassing.

I eat my steak and potatoes with a fork and knife. I eat sushi with chopsticks because I rarely get rolls that don't have something besides rice or seaweed on the outside. If I tried using a fork the sashimi would fall off.

I use my hands when eating pizza.

Why is this such a hard concept?

My favorite complaint is from an Amerifat earlier in the thread that complained chopsticks were useless because he couldn't shovel in big chunks of food into his gaping fatass maw. They're good enough for me to shove a big ass piece of nigiri sushi in my mouth.

>> No.4647155

>>4646913
Japanese people use spoons if anime is to be believed.

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>>4646727
>grain by grain

>> No.4647182

Chopsitcks is just those yellow bellies way to culturally conquer you. I'm never learning how to use them. If we continue on that path we'll end up crouching over latrines and wiping our arses with a dirty toilet stick.

>> No.4647196

>>4647154
>Using chopsticks to eat fingers
You know that they don't use chopsticks to do that in Japan right?

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4647203

>>4647182
u mad, round-eye?

>> No.4647207

>>4646942
Except we dont actually clap at the end of movies.
Ive seen that happen maybe 2-3 times, and its always one group of people

>> No.4647209

ITT White people

>> No.4647210

>>4647203
Of your nasty fucking uncleaned toilet? Hardly.

>> No.4647236

>>4647203
American and I own a fairly good bidet like that. I think it's fucking barbaric to only use paper, and baby wipes don't even come close.

Just ponder this. If you had mud on your hands, would you wipe them with a dry rag and call them clean?

Now replace mud with pure human shit. Please come out of the stone age, it's about time.

>> No.4647262

>>4646678
I always assumed (sorry OP if this sounds a bit too close to the "tradition" argument) that they still use them because they always have. With other items, it may be easier to transition over due to less frequency in usage. People eat anywhere from 2-6 times a day though. If you've been brought up eating using a certain utensil, as was your father and his father's father and so on, when were you going to make the big switch? It's almost like asking why people don't switch which hand they hold their fork in while eating. Something people use multiple times every day is not something easily done away with.

On top of this, as you can see from your thread, there is still some debate over whether or not western utensils truly are easier to use. I side with you on the superiority of the fork, but I'm an American and I only use chopsticks when dining in asian restaurants.

I guess what I'm trying to say is *shrug*, fuck if i know

>> No.4647264

>>4647196

I hope that was supposed to be sushi instead of fingers.

I can use chopsticks to pick up nigiri, but most of the time I don't if I'm eating at a place that doesn't gyp me on size.

>> No.4647265

>>4647236
All I can say is that we shoulda nuked Asia into oblivion when we had the chance, dirty slant eyed pigdogs.

>> No.4647438

>>4646678
because you just dont understand how superior it really is.

>> No.4647452

>>4647236
THIS. SO MUCH THIS.
Unfortunately, I can't install a bidet because I rent (american here.) So I have been having to use mountians of baby wipes instead. I'm looking for an after market bidet that I can hook up to my regular toilet. Is there such a thing? Because it's driving me crazy not to have one. I used to have one in my old house, before I moved to another city for work.
I agree, it's barbaric to just use paper. Ugh.

>> No.4647455

You people act like chinks didn't have spoons, well maybe not the japs

>> No.4647489

>>4646753
It's easier for me. Maybe you're just bad at using chopsticks.

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>> No.4647515

The only reason people bash chopsticks is that those people suck at using them. What other reason would people hate on two sticks used for eating?

>> No.4647535

>>4647515
People who have found more efficient ways of getting food from their plates to their gobs?

>> No.4647550

>>4647535
such as hands

>> No.4647554

>>4647535
>Says the person who can't use chopsticks.

Chopsticks are extremely efficient. I'm as white as a grain of rice in Antarctica, and I can pick food up with chopsticks just as efficiently (and more so in some cases) than a fork.
The Right Utensil for the Right Dish.
Learn it, live it. Don't be an uncultured, unrefined jackass.

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4647635

>>4647150
>>4647116
>>4647106
>>4647103
>>4647082
>>4647075
>>4647069

>> No.4647722

>>4646737
they're much easier to produce

>> No.4647755

>>4646678
Because it is considered barbaric and needlessly aggressive and bloodthirsty to have metalcast weaponry on your dinner table - and yes, for the purposes of the definition, the tines of a fork count as such since the tines pierce the flesh.

It's the same reason why depending on which region of Whitey-white nations you lived in, you either eat with both elbows on the table or elbows off the table, either is seen as an act of aggression and violence (elbows off nations believe elbows on tables mean you'll just pick up the tableware and stab away, elbows on nations believe people with elbows under tables are hiding daggers for surprise attacks).

>> No.4647789

>>4647755
I hear we shake hands today as a perversion of a tradition to clasp wrists as a sign of trust when meeting, which originated from allowing the other party to check whether you were hiding a knife up your sleeve or not.

>> No.4647801

>>4646678
I've always assumed it came from some deep seated stupidity personally.

>> No.4647988

>>4647755
>Because it is considered barbaric and needlessly aggressive

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze

Anything else? Didn't think so..

>> No.4647994

>>4647988
I didn't realize people started using chopsticks after Imperial Japan spread them everywhere.

>> No.4648003

Why doesn't every single person on the planet use these >>4647494
Truly the most versatile and useful tool, it's just plumb fucking retarded to use anything else.

>> No.4648007
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4648007

>entire thread screaming about what's better to eat food with
>no spork
>no motherfucking titanium folding spork with integrated can and bottle opener

get gud

>> No.4648010

>>4646877
Read that over again mate. You might learn something.

>> No.4648025

Were you not a pleb, OP, you would realize that most, actual asian foods are better eaten via chopsticks. Faggot.

>> No.4648030

>>4646946
I do.

And I love how every old dude looks like they saw a ghost with what I'm doing.

>> No.4648043

>>4648030
Maybe they're actually seeing a huge fucking idiot.

>> No.4648048

>>4647154
I use a fork when eating pizza.
I eat steak with chopsticks or sometimes a spoon.
I eat kebabs using a knife and fork.
I eat sushi with a spoon.
I eat Indian curry meat with chopsticks and drink it from the container.

I'm Japanese and I like pissing off everyone of you.

>> No.4648056

>>4648048
You really need a break from the board.

>> No.4648058

>>4648056
I just love pissing off every single person I see when I eat out.

Fuck tradition.

>> No.4648062

>>4648003
how do you cut something when the fork is at the other end of the knife..?

>> No.4648077

Actually, there are a few more good reasons to use chopsticks (easily made on the spot, and easily disposed of):

1. preventing transmission of diseases, such as Hep-B (which is widespread in Asia)
2. easy to use on the go for giant invading armies
3. easy to produce if you're out in the woods and forgot your spork

>> No.4648097

>>4647054
Man, people keep telling you that Asian people find it easier to eat Asian foods with chopsticks. If you're not gonna accept that answer, why are you still here?

Also there's tradition, in that kids are raised using chopsticks, so obviously it's easier for them. But I'm sure the tradition started long ago because the style of food involves picking up whole pieces of stuff without stabbing or breaking it. Chopsticks are probably easier to manufacture than forks, as well. Out of bamboo, perhaps?

>> No.4648131

whito piggu too stupid to use chopsticks go homu

>> No.4648148
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4648148

>implying you can't do the same with superior western utensils

inb4 some faggot bitches about a CRT in a 8+ year old photo

>> No.4648150

>>4648148
Feels cumbersome as fuck compared to regular chopsticks.

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4648156

>>4646917
>if the sushi falls apart because of the fork, it was a poorly prepared piece of sushi to begin with.

>> No.4648157

ITT: white weeaboos versus "normal" white people.

>> No.4648158

>>4648156
>implying that happens with true japanese sushi
>implying true japanese sushi isn't folded a thousand times, capable of slicing a filthy western sandwich clean in half

>> No.4648167

>>4646709
I don't think you've ever eaten rice man. Its probably just efficiency, easier to make chopsticks than spoons and forks.

>> No.4648208

>>4648158
top fucking lel

>> No.4648235

>>4647154
>I eat sushi with chopsticks

You are such a bolshevik.

>> No.4648240

>>4647236
I just keep my hands extra special clean, get a toilet paper strip, fold 3-4 times, lick the clean surface and use it, do it again with a new set. I also push inside for the most clean. I probably have a cleaner asshole than you.

>> No.4648246

I wonder about that too op.
I can use chopsticks quite deftly and find them functional but they can't beat western style cutlery.

>Don't come with the tradition argument

I'm sorry but that's exactly what is going on here.
Asians are very hidebound when it comes these practices.
Eating in this manner is part of their cultural identity and they won't change even if more practical methods are available.

>> No.4648247

>>4646678
they're useful if you're good at using chopsticks.

/thread

>> No.4648262

>>4646678
>"Eastern economies have been the very definition of low-cost light industry producing...kitchenware"

What exactly does making cheap cutlery have to do with using it?

>> No.4648265

>get chop sticks
>try to chop
>shit doesn't work

fuck china

>> No.4648270

>>4646913
I've always referred the flat-bottom spoons. They hold the soup/food so much easier.

>> No.4648280

It's not that fuckin hard you gumby

>> No.4648296

>>4648270
I've always hated them. I look like a drooling retard every time I use them.

>> No.4648309
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4648309

Because all their silverware is in the basement.

Backgound:
How do Asians name their children?
They throw a handful of silverware down the basement stairs and whatever sound it makes that is what they call their child.

>> No.4648328

>>4648309

What do you call a Chinese rapist?

>Rai Ping Yu

>> No.4649999

>>4648328

If I was a K-pop star, I'd want to be called Ki Mo Chi.

>> No.4650011

>>4648240
Lower colon enema is cleaner. Maybe we should meet up and measure it out though.

>> No.4650015
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4650015

use your hands.

>> No.4650023

>>4646700
For what? There are extremely few (but a couple I suppose) situations where you nither want to spear something, or can simply scoop
it up. Sushi seems to be the only thing that comes to mind, but you can also just pick it up to eat it.

Do they have a function? Yes. Are they easier to use and more practical? No.

>> No.4650026

>>4646702
Though one is meant for spearing, the other meant for picking up. I suppose you could spear things with chop sticks but everyone would think you're being odd.

>> No.4650031

Am I the only smelly dumb american scum that finds it easier to eat noodles with chopsticks?

>> No.4650033

>>4646757
> forks are primitive
While neither are very advanced in any way, one being two sticks and the other being a tiny
spear with four prongs doesn't make either more primitive. If anything Chop sticks are, as they're literally sticks.

>a lot of the time you need to use a knife together with it because it's not flexible like chopsticks

Tell me a situation you would need to use a
knife with your fork where chop sticks could simply pick something up.

> you also can't use forks as cooking utensils, but chopsticks are used all the time in cooking

I use forks all the time in cooking. L2 use different cooking utensils m8

>> No.4650039

>>4646773
>Everyone laughing at them
>Everyone in the restraunt turns and laughs at ignorance that someone isnt as high and mighty to use traditional though impractical utensils
>Reddit

>> No.4650059

>>4650015

This is the "traditional" utensil in the Arab world. Kids are taught that it is proper etiquette to pinch morsels of food between the thumb and two forefingers of your right hand.

This is why nearly all Arab food is sandwiches (eg falafel and shawarma), finger food (stuffed grape leaves/peppers/pastries), or is scooped up with pita bread (hummus, foul, shakshouka, babaghanoush).

>> No.4650067

I prefer chopsticks for Asian food because it allows me to enjoy my food one small piece at a time rather than shoveling it into my mouth with a fork murican-style. Great american eating with a shovel and pitchfork has its place, but with Asian food I just end up overeating and getting too much sauce and feeling shitty and it doesn't feel appropriate for the food.

>> No.4650070

Differing presentation due to cultural norms, when it all comes down to it. Typical European/Western foods tend to be served closer to as it was, if that's the right way to put what I'm trying to get at into words. As in a chicken breast is served as such, rather than cut up for a meal, same goes with a steak. A typical Western meal tends to be served individually as well. Each diner is given their own "self-contained" plate, consisting of much of everything that constitutes what's considered a full meal: protein, veggies, starch, etc.. East Asian is often communal, where cut up foods are better suited for the purpose of sharing with friends and family. Chopsticks facilitate this process by letting people pick up and set food onto their plate faster than a fork and knife could manage. There are exceptions, but in general these points are typically the case.

>> No.4650131

maneuverability, I guess. They become like 2 fingers and allow more precise movements if needed.
I feel much more confident if I want to pick something out in a dish with chopsticks than a fork or spoon. I also like using the longer bigger ones for certain frying applications.

Then again, I grew up with chopsticks so it's second nature to me.
And why does this bother you OP? Are you struggling with chopsticks?

>> No.4650132

>>4646709
>Hi, I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'll throw around assumptions like I do.

>> No.4650134

>>4646741
It's ok in chinese norms. I also know that each culture that utilize chopsticks have their own table manners involved with it.

>> No.4650178

>>4648296
you're supposed to sip from the spoon, not cram the whole utensil in your mouth so everything drips out of the sides of your lips

>> No.4650221

Why are chink sticks still being talked about seriously?

Get some proper silverware you stupid gooks

>> No.4650224

>>4650221
>Why are chink sticks still being talked about seriously?
>I like to complain about the topic while bumping the thread

Try to be a little less transparent in the future.

>> No.4650232

>>4650224
I'm sorry, I forgot

shamefur dispray

>> No.4650238

sporks are clearly more versatile than forks, why do white people still use forks then

>> No.4650239
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4650239

>>4650221
we proper silver now yo

>> No.4650266
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4650266

Hokey religions and ancient utensils are no match for a good fork and a knife at your side, kid.

>> No.4650267
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4650267

I usually come to /ck/ to relax, watch some "food porn" and maybe read a recipe or two.

This is the first time in my life I've experienced a thread that actually made me rage on /ck/.

How fucking retarded can OP get? God damn. I am out of here.

>> No.4650269

>>4650266
You're wonderful

>> No.4650279

>>4650239
>An extra utensil useless unless under certain circumstances
I know for a fact they make their rice sticky so it's adding an extra step in eating is annoying as fuck.

>> No.4652787

>>4647150
I fucking love these spoons compared to regular soup spoons. I don't know what it is about them other than I find them fun to use. Whenever we go to the local Vietnamese place (best fried squid of all the local fried squid) I almost always order the largest bowl of pho, knowing I won't be able to eat it in one sitting, just so I have an excuse to take a few of those spoons home. Sure, I'm sure it'd be cheaper to just go to a store and buy the spoons, but the one bowl for ten bucks nets me at least 2 if not 3 meals.

>> No.4652791

>>4647789
Correct.

>> No.4652794

>>4650267
Thought this was a picture of Ron Swanson so I read it in his voice

>> No.4652852
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4652852

RUSSIAN MASTER RACE REPORTING

SHIT CULTURES WITH SHIT UTENSILS NEED NOT APPLY

>> No.4652863

>>4652852
I'm pretty sure every country uses fucking spoons.

>> No.4652893

>>4652863
But what about giant painted wooden spoons?

>> No.4653015

Speaking from experience, you straight-up need chopsticks to eat cream cheese wontons. Shit's too hot to pick up and forks just mangle them horribly. Gotta have that gentle two-stick caress that holds your wonton firmly in place without crushing it and spraying hot cheese everywhere.

>> No.4653020

Chopsticks are just one-handed tongs, used for when you need to get food to your mouth without poking holes with it like forks.

>> No.4653027

>>4652893
Yes because we like paint in our food.

>> No.4653037

>>4646865
>2013
>Still eating sushi.

>> No.4653041

>>4646967
Or you know I could use a spoon and a fork. Spoon the brace the noodles and the fork to twist them into a bunch that stays on the fork.

>> No.4653042

>>4646999
If you're fucking retarded.

>> No.4653043

>>4647042
>Caring that food gets "destroyed"
>Fails to understand that it all turns to shit.
>Fucking asain plebs.

>> No.4653046

>>4647058
They stick their face in the bowl like the primitive animals they are.

>> No.4653048

>>4647554
You're full of shit you troll. Take your sticks and go pound salt in your ass. You are not welcome here.

>> No.4653050

listen jackasses. it was Confucius. He said that forks and knives are instruments of violence and war, and thus not civilized and unfit for a respectable table. And you know how those Asians are about their Confucius.

>> No.4653051

>>4648048
That is fine. Your rice grain dick is enough for me to laugh at. Guess who the universe got. Here is a hint. It isn't me.

>> No.4653058

>>4648262
Well I can spell it out for you.
It is so cheap even a poor ass asian can afford it. Yet they still use sticks like the primitives they are.

>> No.4653060

>>4650031
Yes I recommend a late term abortion.

>> No.4653063

>>4650266
I think I love you.

>> No.4653065

>>4653015
Only if you have bitch paws.

>> No.4653066

>>4646700
>2013
>being this full of shit

>> No.4653067

>>4653050
Yes the would suck is pud of they could.

>> No.4653085

>>4650131
What are you stupid?

>> No.4653091

ITT: /ck/ learns how to shitpost

>> No.4653100

>>4653091
Don't you know that /ck/ is nothing but degenerate hipsters.

>> No.4653205

>>4646678
>Don't come with the tradition argument

Get raped.