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4582242 No.4582242 [Reply] [Original]

I make most of my own bread now and I want a stand mixer.
It seams I only have two choices:
-shit sunbeam/Hamilton beach hand blender that will easily burn out
-monster kitchen-aid that will last longer than I will but runs $300+

Is there a middle ground or do I just have to overcome my laziness and do it by hand?

>> No.4582275

>>4582242
Also mixer appliances general

>> No.4582279

Get a bread maker, fuckface.

>> No.4582300

>>4582279
I make flat bread.
+ bread makers only make bread.
Mixers are not a single task machine like the pleeb tier bread makers

>> No.4582309

>>4582300

Then stop being a cheap fuck and get a Kitchen-Aide. Amazon has them for $220.

>> No.4582317

>>4582309
I can't do anything about that. I'm a cheap fuck like a $5 whore.

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4582469

we had some trouble with the kitchenaide mixer, shaft is loose and the shredder attachment has a worn shaft.

they will fix it but you have to ship it off and wait...

you get what you pay for
if you do a lot of baking and stuff get a mixer that will last and be done with it
I am damned tired of paying $300 every 1-2 yrs for a fucking mixer that I can't rely on

Go with a commercial Hobart

>> No.4582483

>>4582469
Thanks for the honest advise.

How much do you work your mixer to go through a kitchen-aid every year or two? Must be a commercial kitchen

>> No.4582500

>>4582483
me and my wife and my uncle use it for pizza dough 3-5 times a week , for coookies, breads and to make coleslaw, it gets used on average 2-3 times daily

>> No.4582509

>>4582500
Coleslaw? How about y'all not user the damn thing for everything and you might get more use our of it.

I can't imagine what shit you use that for if your user out that often for two people.

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>>4582509 3 people do all the cooking...
this attachment is for cole slaw, grated cheese etc

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>>4582509
salad shooter

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>>4582509
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>>4582509
>>4582509
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>> No.4582570

>>4582300
One of the best tricks for bread makers is to only make the dough then make whatever you want out of the dough- cinnamon rolls, focaccia, French bread, etc.

>> No.4582571

>>4582570

Yep, this.

A stand mixer would be nice to have but for the bread kneading, you can pick up a barely used breadmaker for like $10 on craiglist because people make bread once, it's not what they envisoned, and they never use it again.

>> No.4582582

How about one of these?
http://www.thekitchn.com/ankarsrum-swedish-super-mixers-185830

>> No.4582627

>>4582570
>>4582571
you must have lots of storage space

or else your couters are full and you have no workspace

>> No.4582642

>>4582469
...so you bought a consumer grade product, then put enough hours on it to strain a professional grade product and are surprised it broke?

This is like buying an F150 and using it to pull a 6000lbs trailer every day and being surprised when it breaks down in 6 months.

>> No.4582816

>>4582242

Honestly, Target sometimes has Kitchen Aids for $200. I'd shell for it, but I actually like kneading dough. I'd want it for the whip and other attachments, but if I had it, I'd probably use it to knead doughs, I must admit.

I don't mind not having it, because I neither have the space nor the desire to resell it if/when I move far away, so...

>> No.4582998

>>4582816
Its almost a month's rent for me (yes be jealous) so I will have a hard time justifying the purchase. It will definitely go up on my wish list though; That is unless I luck out and find a good garage sale one.

I like kneading dough too but I don't always have the time for it to be an everyday thing. I guess I better start saving.

>>4582582
>I complain about a $200 appliance
>he links me a $700 appliance
logic

>> No.4583002

>>4582998

You know, if I hadn't been in $1,500.00/mo. apartments, I would be, but they're not all that much better. Not here, anyway.

It's a nice piece, it last a long time and has a good resale value. I just have enough kitchen crap for the ... stability that I'm willing to upkeep here.

>> No.4583019

>>4583002
Say what you want but my apartment is probably a box compared to your swanky place(unless someone is ripping the mother loving shit off of you). It at least has a good sized kitchen, but that all that matters anyway. I would rather spend my time there. I will have to do with a few free appliances and a couple of good knives for now.

>> No.4583078

I've been through a few Kitchenaids over the years. The problem is that, short of a Hobart N50, there are not many great comparably-sized units out there. I would up picking up an A200 a few years ago, and use it quite a bit. With that said, 20 quarts is huge, and you have to make a LOT of bread to be able to use the mixer. I'm in the process of selling the Hobart, now, and will likely pick up a Globe SP-10 to replace it. Definitely more expensive than the A200, but uses the same #12 attachments that I already have a selection of, and is sturdy enough not to burn out like the KA units.

The key with KAs is to never make large quantities of low-hydration dough. It kills them on the quick.

>> No.4583194

>>4583078
what is considered a "large quantity?"

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>>4583194
It's hard to say, objectively. Unlike most commercial mixers, I'm having a hard time finding a capacity chart so I can give you a more specific answer. A good mixer can do 70% of capacity, by volume, of a 55% hydration dough. That would mean that in a 5-quart KitchenAid Professional HD, the ideal would be approximately 3.5 quarts of dough. Unfortunately, none of the KA mixers come even CLOSE to the 70% (and neither do most small commercial mixers). In reality, the Pro HD model can probably do 40% of capacity, and the Artisan model even less.

The good news is that it's rare to make a bread with hydration that low. Usually, it sits in the high 50's to low 60's, percent by weight. Plus, you can always just break up your batches into smaller quantities, and knead individual loaves one at a time in the event that you do want to make something that is very low hydration.

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>>4583222
I think the biggest problem with the KAs is that they don't give you a lot of indication that something is wrong. In my experience, they work great all the way up until they just eat it and die. Sometimes, the safety mechanism that prevents overworking or overheating kicks on and the mixer gives itself a time out. In that case you can just wait it out, and the mixer will work the next time you try it. But sometimes, it's toast, and you have to buy a new one.

These days I have the A200 for heavy duty or bulk work (plus meat grinding), and a KitchenAid Professional HD for small batches of higher hydration doughs. It has lasted me 6 years. Unlike the other KAs I've had in that same time period, this one is starting to make grinding noises, which tells me the transmission is probably toast. Time to shop for another small mixer, I think.

>> No.4584637

>>4582242
I bought a kitchenaide at a garage sale for $20. Probably won't see one that cheap again because all the geniuses out there are deluded by ebay and think all their shit is gold. Anyways, one of the good things about their quality (and a lot of people buying things like that and using it once a week if that) is that they tend to get resold multiple times rather than tossed in the trash because they broke. That unfortunately is what happened to mine after I fucked around and broke the bowl.

> -shit sunbeam/Hamilton beach hand blender that will easily burn out

How many mixers have you actually burned out? I have all sorts of appliances that I bought new for 10-20$ at the dollar store that are functioning. And if they break, the 10-20$ spent to replace them will not be missed.