/ck/ - Food & Cooking

No beans (it's fucking chili con carne, not chile con frijitos), spicy as fuck, with some cheese on top if it's cold out.

i like the textural difference beans add, fuck the police. now that that's out of the way...

>Bean?
yes
>Hot as fuck?
not quite hot as fuck, but fairly hot. i do like it to be accessible to others who dont like heat as much as i do
>Little sweetness
No.
>Topped with...
cheese. often served over rice


i like to chop up bacon, crisp it up in the pot, and cook my vegetables/meat in that grease.

>topped with pasta and cheese
Jesus christ no.
Serve with rice. No cheese.

inb4 stop liking what i dont like

oh wait

Chili is the ONLY dish where I enjoy beans. I've been rediscovering foods I disliked as a kid and have come to realize for nearly all the foods its simply the way they were prepared that I disliked. I never had chili as a kid and decided when I made it for the first time I would try it with beans and it was great. Still hate them in most other dishes though

>>4484588
>>4484585

in what region is rice a common way to serve it up?

personally, i like it quite hot, with a lot of cheese, sour cream, and tortellini...
great for a bears/packers game

>Bean?
A mix of light red kidney beans and black beans. Possibly also can of Campbells pork and beans.

>Hot as fuck?
Hot enough to notice but not so hot as to detract from the experience.

>Little sweetness?
Just a bit. I use a lot of onion and it naturally gets sweeter the longer it cooks, and I like to melt a lump of chocolate into it.

>Topped with pasta, cheese, and onions?
No. Over rice, or alone.

Anyone I eat with is free to do whatever they like to it, as long as it doesn't involve cilantro.

>>4484613
second post you quoted here. my family is about as white as the rice we put our chili over. since chili is a great way to keep meals cheap, rice makes it even moreso.

parents from the northeast US and i live in florida.

I like the chili itself to be mild with hot sauce at the table. Saltine crackers and tamales as sides. Beans don't matter, but only one style please. Red kidney is preferred. If there's three pounds of beef, then there should only be at most half a pound of cooked beans. 6:1 ratio.

After all, it ain't a bowl of red if there's a dozen different colors. NO bell peppers. Fuck off. That's a bigger abomination than the beans.

>>4484616
Try exchanging the kidney beans with rosecoco beans.

Cincinnati chili is where it's at. No beans, plenty of onions.

>>4484648
That looks like it's taken from a 1950s advertising campaign to get housewifes to serve processed food by products.

>>4484649
I know, it's delicious

>>4484648

my nigga

>>4484571
>Bean?
Black, kidney and baked

>Hot as fuck?
It's a meal, not a lost bet

>Little sweetness?
Bit of corn, honey for richness

>Topped with pasta, cheese, and onions?
Cheese if i have it, sour-cream otherwise.

3 way, cheese coneys, oyster crackers, and an icy coke

fucking mouthgasms

>>4484694
That's acid reflux, not mouthgasms.

>Spgahetti with chilli con carne
>Half a pound of shit tier cheese

I'll pass, thanks

>>4484648
>>4484672
>>4484694

Greek bean stew is not chili, midwesternfaggots

A plate of cheese. How nice.

Bean?
>yes
Hot as fuck?
>between medium and hot.
Little sweetness?
>NO
Topped with pasta, cheese, and onions?
>shredded cheddar, raw onions, sometimes a small dollop of sour cream.

sometimes i like veggies in my chili but other people will poopoo that a lot of times. chili baked in the oven with a corn bread topper like a pot pie is some of the best shit around.

Am I the only one that uses pinto beans?

>>4484761
enjoy your strangely seasoned tomato soup.

>>4484885

>tomatoes in chili

no

I like to slice up some chorizo and toss it in. It gets nice and tender when simmered along with the rest.

Once when I didnt have any beer I decided to pour a shot of bourbon instead. Felt bad man. It was edible but it became way too heavy.

>>4484896
>tomatoes in chili
>no

Next you'll say you don't use cabbage either?

What is it about chili that people find so amazing?

It's basically just minced beef in sauce. I don't ge the hype.

>>4484906
>minced
There's your issue.
Diced beef, heart, or even game is MUCH better.

>>4484906
chili is an easy way to get a hearty, flavorful meal for very cheap.

however, as with anything else, there are those irritating purists who refuse to accept any other method but their own.

>Beans
Yes, I like variety. I use black, pinto, and kidney beans in mine.
>Hot as fuck
I like my food spicy but for chili I prefer it to ju st have a little kick. Not burning my fucking insides
>Little sweetness
No not really, I add tomatoes and onions and that is sweet enough for me
>Toppings?
Sour cream and a good sharp cheese. All of this on top of a baked potato and it's a damn good meal

>>4484918
And irritating hacks who try to change proven recipes.

>>4484927
>change proven recipes.
Some are content to make their own based on existing recipes.
Or do you expect them to come in and have the original recipes whited out at gunpoint?

>>4484922
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.

>>4484918

It's not being a purist, it's just the damn definition of the dish. If you take fettucine alfredo, substitute lentils for the sauce and rice for the pasta and still call it fettucine alfredo it's just dumb. Same with beans and cheese on pasta.

>>4484571
>Beans?
yes, pinto
>Hot as fuck?
im not trying to prove my manliness when i eat chili, but there is heat of course
>Little sweetness
No sugar or chocolate or anything like that
>Topped with...
cheese, chow chow and corn bread

pic related, its chow chow

>>4484943
But I'm expressing myself in my food like the special little snowflake mom always said I was

>>4484943
Find the earliest "definition of the dish".

>>4484943
>durr every dish has to be made to the exact definition

if i add a piece of cheese to a burger, it's still a burger.

>>4484948

Sure thing - chili con carne, meat with chilis. Precolumbian origins, then later adapted in San Antonio.

Beans were used during the depression as a meat substitute, but it's like making beef stroganoff with hot dogs because you're poor, it's not the real thing.

>>4484973
But is a turkey patty with ciabatta buns, fish-sauce instead of ketchup and coleslaw instead of salad/tomatoes still a burger?

>>4484973

It's actually a cheeseburger then. See, it's something different, so we call it something different!

>>4484980
when you add beans and cheese to chili, you arent subsituting, you are adding.

but yes, that would be a burger... just not a very good one, and certainly not a HAMburger.

>>4484983
so call it chili with beans for all i care. it's a variation, not a completely separate dish.

>>4484571
lots of beans, lots of tomato sauce, hot enough to open your sinus cavities, slightly sweet, topped with onions, greens, and spices

>>4484979
as long as theres meat and chilis in it, it can be "meat with chilis" anything additional isnt altering those two aspects

coq au vin is "rooster with wine" but youd be hard pressed to find a decent recipe without mushrooms and onions as well

>>4484986

>he thinks a Hamburger is called that because of ham, not the geographic origin!

>>4485013
i was differentiating between a "burger" and a "hamburger". the emphasis was the simplest way to do so.

please, learn to comprehend what you're reading before you respond.

>>4485022
please, learn to not be wrong before you speak

>>4485024
please, learn to point out where i was wrong before assuming anyone will take your word for it.

I don't usually like chili because people tend to fuck it up. The argument that chili isn't chili if it has beans in it is dumb. As is if it doesn't have beans. Of course it is chili, I prefer chili without beans. I like it to be flavorful, spicy is good but not hot for the sake of being hot. I can take the heat, just make it taste good too; smoky,rich, complex, and hot. It can have a little sweetness to it, but it isn't a requirement for me. I like to have it in a bowl with chopped raw onions and cheese on it at the very least. Toss in cilantro, and chopped raw tomato with a little lime maybe a dollop of real sour cream and I am pretty pleased. I won't eat it over spaghetti or rice, I don't like it that way. I don't mind it over nachos, a hot dog, in an enchilada or burrito. I even like chili as the focus of a meat pie or empanada. Chili is good in chunks, I like chunks of meat(s) but I would not turn my nose up at ground meat in chili. Don't put big chunks of green bell pepper in my chili, that's just unprofessional. Please Please Please, do not ever but corn or tofu in my chili, it makes me weep. You enjoy your chili the way you like it, I will enjoy mine. I don't know why chili is such a point of contention for /ck/.

>>4485029

Sure is butthurt here.

But I've got just the solution - it's my famous HAMburger. It's a beef patty with mushroom gravy on it, and a loose corn bun on the side!

Now I know those picky people will say it's salisbury steak, but fuck them! It's a HAMburger!

>>4485044
nice. check out my deconstructed omelet.

>>4485055

It's not bad, but I'd deconstruct it a little further. Add the egg's parent and some potatoes, and now you have a really special omelette. And the best part is because it's an omelette it's vegetarian!

>Beans?
Kidney and black beans.

>Hot as fuck?
Nope, but some hotness doesn't hurt !

>Little sweetness?
I love corn with my chili.

I usually serve it on rice and add bell
peppers on it when feeling fancy.

>>4485044
I actually use ground sirloin in my salisbury steak, so I feel that the label is accurate.

beans are ok but I prefer no beans. I like it very hot with a little sweetness to balance it out. I'll only want it topped with cheese if I'm having it on nachos.

>>4484943
>tfw i think i'm the only southerner in the thread to this point
This guy's right. I'll point out more on why he's right later, but ^5 for 4484943

>>4484947
>expressing myself in my food
I know you're lite-trolling, but name your own food. Chili a la Anon. Whatever. Just don't throw random shit together and just call it "chili".

>>4484973
>if i add a piece of cheese to a burger,
You have a "cheeseburger". If I order a burger and it comes with cheese, I may get upset. If I order a cheeseburger and am served beef'n'bun, I would likewise be upset. The SonicBurger does not come with cheese, because they know what's up. You should, too.

>>4484948
The earliest definition of chili?
>1660s, from Nahuatl xilli, native name for the peppers.
Originally, the dish 'chili' is literally just the roasted peppers. If you add meat, you have "chili con carne", the most common incarnation of the dish, and always specified as such by any competent restaurant serving it. If you go to New Mexico and you order "chili", you're probably getting a bowl of their famous green chilis. Chili con Carne is another dish. Chilis and beans is something else entirely, but chili con frijoles is of course acceptable.

Some people try to just call their chili con carne "chili", but it's often low quality shit that nobody cares about anyway, or it's just some guy making it at home and still nobody cares. But if you're serving more than family and friends, and you're not sucking at it, you're calling whatever you're serving by its proper name.

All that said...

>Beans
Nope. I don't mind the dish made with chilis, beans, and meat, but when I go for chili, it's chili con carne

>Spicy
Hotter than most can handle, please. I liked it when my glasses fogged up. I wear contacts now, but I can put on some sunglasses for heat-testing purposes :)

>Sweetness
If that's what I'm in the mood for, I'll stir in some honey. Doesn't happen very often.

>Topped with
Cheese, if it's particularly bad chili...

>2013
>adding red pepper to chili
>adding tomato to chili
>adding beef to chili
>adding onion to chili
>adding corn to chili

sure is casual in here

>>4485323
>But if you're serving more than family and friends, and you're not sucking at it, you're calling whatever you're serving by its proper name.
i know multiple successful eating establishments that list "chili" on the menu, and it has all kinds of shit you'd get pissed off about.

i think i might make some chili with beans tonight, post it in a thread, and call it chili.

>Beans?
Hell yes

>Hot as fuck?
Enough that it has a good bite to it, but not enough that I can't taste anything over the fourth circle of hell eroding my taste buds.

>Little sweetness?
Just a teeny bit. Whatever sweetness the onions/peppers used in the dish impart, maybe a little bit of sugar to bring out flavor.

>Topped with pasta, cheese, and onions?
Onions and cheese yes.

It also has to be meaty as fuck. I've tasted some chilis where the meat to everything else ratio was like 20%-80%.

>>4484588
>Serve with rice
Start running.

>Bean?
Of fucking course
>Hot as fuck?
>Little sweetness?
Both, a like a nice balance. Something that has a bite to it or a bit of afterburn, with some sweetness (Pineapple works wonders)
>Topped with pasta, cheese, and onions?
Cheese is a must. For a base I like to use pasta or cornbread.

>>4485340
Wendy's might be successful, but it's not exactly fine dining.

captcha: eoblish questioning

>>4485372
>avoiding the point with a snide comment

talking about restaurants here

also, chili isn't exactly a fine dining dish.

>Bean?

yes, kidney

>Hot as fuck?

spicy, please.

>Little sweetness?

I usually eat with cornbread.

>Topped with pasta, cheese, and onions?

cheese and onions.

Beans? Fuck you! Who the fuck puts beans in Chili. Cunts. That's who.
I'm so angry right now.

>>4485405
My father who migrated to the US after WW2 as a kid and came back in the seventies always made with beans.

Fuck the police, and you.

>>4485372
nice evasion, bro

>>4485399
Which restaurants?

And while I wouldn't pay $200/bowl for any chili, there is an art to making it well. How many people agree with what you call "well" is a different matter, separate from the semantics of the name of the dish.

>>4485412
Thanks :)

>>4485340

You want to argue from authority? Fine - chili cook-offs don't allow beans.

http://www.chilicookoff.com/Event/event_rules.asp

>>4485323
I'm not a southerner, I hate you people. I just don't think dishes should be arbitrarily renamed. Not to mention chili is San Anton based, not that shit bit of land of East Texas.

>>4485466
>I just don't think dishes should be arbitrarily renamed
>uses arbitrary group with arbitrary rules to define chili

>>4485480

Except it's not arbitrary at all. Chili con carne has a long history, and the dishes doesn't have beans or spaghetti it it. Skyline 'chili' is its own thing, it's just not chili. Greek fucks just didn't know any better.

>>4485466
that post wasnt appealing to authority, it was providing a counterexample. if the post argued that chili with beans is chili because these restaurants do it, THAT would be appealing to authority.

I think of chili as a hearty, filling stew-like food. And let's face it, anyone who thinks meat and sauce is good enough probably is a picky eater and has problems with vegetables.

Green chilies, a bit of cocoa powder, ground beef sauteed with onions, light red kidney beans, and tomatoes are all perfect ingredients. Level of spice is up to the individual person, I like mine to burn my tongue but not be inedible. Serve with some good shredded cheddar cheese and a dollop of sour cream.

>>4485493

You're right - wasn't the guy you originally responded to. In your case it's not an appeal to authority. Cheerfully withdrawn.

>>4485492
>dishes never evolve

by your logic, we should all be eating hunks of meat roasted over a fire, since that's where it all started. right?

>>4485480
>International Chili Society
He's not talking about a bunch of backyard BBQers...

chuck steak
beer
a fuckload of habanero and jalapenos
cummin
oregano
coriander
beef stock
sugar
tomato paste

cook on low heat for 5 hours until meat falls apart

done

>>4485500

Would you like to try my HAMburger?

>>4485501
looking back , i can see how that could be construed as appealing to authority. i'll try to be more careful about it in the future.

>>4485502
id just like to say that this organization doesnt exactly derive its authority from anywhere.

i mean, it started in 1967. chili has been around a bit longer than that.

regardless, i'm not going to sit here and argue semantics all day long. some people believe beans/pasta/cheese/whatever has no place in chili. more power to them. others like to doctor it up (it is peasant food, after all). good for them too. as long as we're all enjoying this wonderful thing known as chili (and chili with beans, and Cincinnati style and whatever other ideas people have come up with).

This is how I made my last chili.
>made a mirepoix of carrots, onion, and red bell pepper instead of celery
>Added 2 sam adams summer ales
>Added chicken breast marinated in summer ale and peppercorn
>added some chopped Louisianan hot links
>added 1lb ground beef
>added 2 cups water
In retrospect that water really wasn't need, the beer was enough and next time I do this I won't be adding water
>added 2 cans of pinto beans (didn't feel like cooking beans the day before)
>Used spices including 5 spice, cinnamon, red pepper, bay leaves, etc
>added Newmans own pineapple salsa, GWARBBQ sauce (GWAR's bbq sauce), hot sauce, agave nectar, and teriyaki sauce
I don't have exact measurements, just did it to taste.
Let it sit in the crock pot on low all day. It had way to much liquid in it so it kinds was more of a gumbo or stew than chili, but it tasted kick ass.

Mustard good in chilli?

Chili with meat is not Chili. It's Chili con Carne.
Chili without vegetables even less of a Chili than Chili con Carne. It's beef stew for gringos.
Any hearty, filling vegetable stew with beans (and preferably peppers) is my ideal chili. Serve it over rice if you desire.

>>4485514
Eh, I'd use mustard seed if you wanted to flavor it, not mustard.

>>4485514
this post actually reminds me of a burger some local joint makes.

>the mulhauser
>topped with Uncle Monk’s famous chili, house made coleslaw, red onions, cheddar cheese and yellow mustard on a kaiser roll

for the record, "uncle monk's famous chili" includes beans. ohh nooo. but yeah, delicious burger.

>>4485507
what an awful recipe

>>4485498
Are you really that stupid? To properly apply your example, >>4485498 is opposed to calling all meat dishes "hunks of meat roasted over a fire". In which he'd be right. There's a difference between a steak and a ham. They were probably known as "boar flesh" and "auroch flesh" to the cavemen that first roasted them, not simply "meat". For as long as there has been language, we've used it to differentiate things. Including dishes.

>>4485513
That would indeed be a gumbo or stew. Putting one bell pepper and some spice in it does not a chili make, by any damn definition.

>>4485517

>implying the dish chili isn't shorthand for chili con carne
>implying chili isn't the spanish name for hot peppers

>>4485529
>Putting one bell pepper and some spice in it does not a chili make, by any damn definition.
Then what does?

>>4485513
>GWARBBQ
Okay, this I want.

>>4485529
>we've used it to differentiate things. Including dishes.
and ever since there have been distinct dishes, they've evolved and changed.

a prime example is that abomination chicagoans call pizza.

>>4485531
At a minimum, the dish must be comprised of a majority chilis. For chili con carne, more meat is acceptable, but still, lots of chilis. And not one bell pepper. Seriously, what the hell is the point of that...

some fucking cartoonist at DC must have loved chili for them to always do this sort of shit

>>4485528
try it
it's the best chili i've ever tasted

>>4485536
Don't they call it specifically deep dish pizza, though? Adjectives count, and modifiers to food (...con carne) are okay. But yeah, I would be annoyed if they're just straight claiming what they make is pizza in the traditional sense.

>>4485533
They were selling it their shows.
Also, they are making a beer and debuting it at the 5th annual GWARbbq this year,
>>4485537
Well, I wanted to add more spice but I was unsure about how the gwarbbw sauce would be as it's a fucking gut buster in it's own right.
Next time I do it I'm going to not use any water, and throw in jalapeno, green, red, and chiplolte peppers.

>>4485544
Chili purist here. Depending on the beer, I could see that being an awesome con carne.

>>4485537

Ummmm bell peppers are chilis

>>4485551
I mean not a dish with a bunch of stuff in it and only one bell pepper as the chili. I use orange bell peppers in my chili for colour. More than one. With more chilis in the dish. But one bell pepper in a crockpot's worth of food is not chili, by any stretch.

>>4485549
Hm. Most interesting. I wonder if I can order it online somewhere.

>>4485558
The merch store sells it
http://www.gwar.net/gwar-store
They are sold out though.

>>4485560
Damnation.

>Beans
Sure, I usually add both black beans and (at least what my supermarket calls) chili beans in mine. Extra, varied sources of protein never hurt anyone.
>Hot as fuck
It may be to those who aren't used to how I make it. I use a ton of chili powder, red pepper flakes and hot sauce in the base, then add more hot sauce on my individual servings.
>Little sweetness?
Never really messed with this outside of onions.
>Topped with pasta cheese and onions?
Most often I mix it in with macaroni, but I certainly love Cincinnati-style chili as well as my grandfather was born there and it was a staple from that side of the family. Also, topping with chili and the aforementioned hot sauce is a must.

Basically my chili consists of ground beef, sausage, two kinds of beans, lot of seasonings and a couple small cans of diced tomatoes with the chiles in them, which get added when I incorporate the mix with my macaroni. I also tend to make it with what turns into a basic roux by adding some flour over the meat and other parts until it becomes a thicker consistency, covering it in chicken/beef broth and letting it simmer to build the sauce around it.

I'll never understand why people make their chili really hot if they can't handle it.

It's like building muscle, it takes time. Just add more every few times you make it.