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Just movede up from pleb-level scotch and bought a bottle of expensive-ish single malt - Kilchoman Machir Bay. I haven't tasted it ye but the salesman said it was like Talisker and Laphroaig, which I drink now, only a step up.

My question: how much water do you use in a dram? I add a splash of highland spring water but I read that people add literally a couple of drops. Am I over-watering if I add maybe 30% of water to whisky volume?

>> No.4412691

Wait, we water our whiskies? I just drink my Talisker/Laphroaig neat. Am I doing it wrong? Isn't the point to it to breath fire?

>> No.4412695

This is going to blow your mind, but: add the amount that you're in the mood to add.

I usually don't add water but I sometimes do. Sometimes, I add ice.

The one thing that I never, NEVER do is use one of those faggy tulip glasses. I'd rather die.

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>> No.4412757

>>4412696
Enjoy your overpriced "collector's edition" whiskey

>> No.4412762

>>4412757
confirmed jellypoor.

>> No.4412769

>>4412691
Well if you drink the good stuff it's a bit pointless to drink it neat as you just get the alcohol burn and lose a lot of the subtle tastes. If you drink cask strength you have to water it or you might as well be drinking cheap vodka for all the taste you're getting out of it.

>> No.4412772

>>4412696
I hope you didn't spend much on a whisky that says "rare and old" with no age statement. Also its a blend which isn't ideal.

>> No.4412775

>>4412762
There's not even an age statement, and it's a $150 blend of Speyside with "some" expensive 1980s whiskey mixed in. You can get the 20 y.o Speyside from Costco for like half the price.

I would much much rather get two 18 y.o. laphroaigs or something.

>> No.4412779

>>4412772
it was blended specifically to taste like the hundred year old whisky they dug up from antarctica.
it was blended by richard paterson. he's kind of a big deal.

>> No.4412791

>>4412779
The way whisky is made has changed alot in the last 100 years, they probably didn't cut as much back then so you'd get the foreshots and fients included. I'd imagine it tastes rough, metallic and possibly a bit fishy

>> No.4412810

>>4412791
that's what they thought when they dug it up, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK2qQcgkM00#t=2m57s

but turns out that wasn't the case at all.

>> No.4412815

>>4412791
>probably

Alcohol history is the most well preserved. We still use recipes from a thousand years ago. Unchanged. There is no probably, there is or is not. If you are not sure, give someone a call.

>> No.4412821

>>4412775
I bought my ex a bottle of johnny walker blue

It was not worth the price.

>> No.4412829

>>4412815
The recipe in whisky is probably the same because scotch whisky has to be 100% malted barley under the Scotch whisky act(however varieties of barley have changed). However practices with the stills have changed such as cutting, which didn't happen in the early days to maximize alcohol yield. Also heating methods are more reliable now days and use steam jackets mostly (which wouldn't have existed thousands of years ago)

>> No.4412837

>>4412691
A little water helps bring out the flavor of scotch and whiskey.

>> No.4412844

>>4412837
You should try it neat to begin with and add water to taste not all whiskies need water (in my opinion) by some do benefit from a splash of water (usually cask strength whisky)

>> No.4412859

>>4412844
Obviously. Not saying that in a douchey tone, I just assume people treat it like adding salt to a dish. At least that's what I do.

>> No.4412865

>>4412859
you'd be surprised. I've seen people pour 50/50 before wasting perfectly good malt.

>> No.4412979

>>4412829
Cutting didn't happen in the old days? yes it did.

I will give you that the heating could be more reliable today. But I've seen people keep wood burning brick ovens at a constant temperature today, so i wouldn't doubt people could do the same for whiskey hundreds of years ago.

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>>4412865
What. I don't even drink scotch and I know not to fucking do that. I would slap their shit.

>> No.4413010

>>4412979
It had to be cut to actually increase the alcoholic content when moving it from the wash still to the spirit still. But they didn't do cut the foreshots to the same extent as todays standards as the majority of scotch whisky distilleries began as small illicit stills in the highlands where the English tax man found it difficult to get to them.

>> No.4413060

>>4412674
>Am I over-watering if I add maybe 30% of water to whisky volume?

don't sweat the small stuff dood. once you pay for the "good" stuff, all the phony stiffs will be satisfied.

bottom line: the more you pay for liquor or wine, the better it is. that's a fact. unless you have some brains, but OP already waived that option.

>> No.4413106

>>4413060
I'm not so sure that expensive booze is better.

Are you sure it isn't just your mind going HEY! I bought this shit for alot of money so it tastes better then cheaper shit.

I seem to recall some french blind wine tasting competition that an american wine won because they didn't know where the wine was from.

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>dram

Everyone you drink with despises you, whether they say it to your face or not.

>> No.4413119

>>4413106

Yes, that was 37 years ago, and it was only a big deal to some butthurt California residents.

Also, those were and remain among the most expensive of wines from California, so I'm not sure whether it proves what you think it proves.

>> No.4413122

>My question: how much water do you use in a dram?
None.

>> No.4413124

>>4413107
this picture breaks my heart. you can see they are comfortable together and have probably had a long and happy history together. she is still in love and excited to be with him. but if you look into his eyes, you can see that his heart is no longer in it.

>> No.4413126

>>4413122
In 75% of the Whisky I've had, I'd agree with you. But some really do taste better with a couple of mls of water in them.

>> No.4413142

a small ammount (1/2 - 1 teaspoon) may open it up.... or may make it slightly insipid.

different whiskies react differently... talisker, for example, becomes sweeter with just a touch of water

>> No.4413370

>>4413106
i think the important one was where the same wine was served in two different bottles and rated differently based upon how fancy the bottle looked