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4321498 No.4321498 [Reply] [Original]

I was surprised that not having electric kettles in America is more common than not.

Do any Americans recognize what is in the pic right away?

>> No.4321501

It's a pitcher.

>> No.4321506

>>4321501
Be specific...

>> No.4321514

>>4321506
what are you retarded? its a pitcher. sure its something else thats kind of obvious by what you said in the original post you fag, but without cheating and looking it up online most of america including myself will look at that and see a cheap plastic pitcher.

>> No.4321515

>>4321506
It's a white plastic pitcher.

>> No.4321520

>>4321506
>expecting americans to recognize a milk pitcher

protip: they get their milk in cartons and jugs, not bags.

>> No.4321521

>>4321498
Milk pitcher...

>> No.4321523

Milk pitcher, you filthy Canuck.
Not even murrcan here (from Italy).

>> No.4321525

>>4321506
It's a white plastic pitcher filled with regret.

>> No.4321526

>>4321514
Take it down a notch friend-o...

>> No.4321532
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4321532

>America doesn't have <insert random object>
>Obviously inferior

These threads are always fun.

>> No.4321535

>>4321532
Don't be so defensive, there is nothing like that from my original post.

I am just interested in the little cultural differences. Relax.

>> No.4321536

I buy My OJ in a bag, also mile in disgusting

>> No.4321538

>>4321536
>I buy My OJ in a bag
I didn't know this was a thing.

>> No.4321537

>>4321523
ding ding ding

>> No.4321543

>>4321535
You took that as being defensive?

You probably think I'm American too?

>> No.4321545

Why would anyone need a separate pitcher for milk?

>> No.4321546

What if you decide to use another beverage in lieu of milk? Do you get arrested??

>> No.4321557

>>4321545
Because only recently has milk come out of cartons and jugs. Before that, it came from cows.

>> No.4321558
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4321558

>>4321545

you put the bag in the pitcher and snip a corner off for pouring

>> No.4321562

so you leave the milk open in the refrigerator in that pitcher? Doesn't it pick up the "taste" of the stale refrigerator? Why not just use a glass pitcher with a top on it? I am curious, not angry, btw. The only open top pitcher I use is for draft beer at the table.

>> No.4321563

>>4321562
We must have post pretty close together, I didn't see your post when I started mine.

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>>4321562
yes, it just goes right in the fridge.

the individual bags are small enough that they are consumed before any off flavours have a chance to develop.

>> No.4321576

>>4321558
huh, that's actually kind of cool.

>> No.4321721

>>4321562
read >>4321575
also I guess you could put in it a glass pitcher, assuming you meant pouring the milk out of the bag and then into it, but you'd have to clean that pitcher every so often.

>> No.4321790

>>4321576
Yeah the pitchers are the same shape as the bags. The worst is when my roommate would use a fork or shitty serrate knife to open the corner of the bag... sometimes you'd get like 5 erratic streams.

>> No.4321798

>Buying an electric kettle when the stove does the exact same thing

I expect this behavior from inferior yurodumbs

>> No.4321804

>>4321798
>what is efficiency

>> No.4321817

>>4321521
what is even the point

I'd imagine it would spoil faster, being exposed to more open air. Also milk gallons are recycled, and those plastic bags are probably the first and last use of the plastic

>> No.4321818

>>4321798
>Buying a stove when a wood fire bordered by stones does the exact same thing

>> No.4321825

>>4321818
Well, idk how it is in yuropooria, but here in America every house comes equipped with a stove. Shocking concept, I know.

>> No.4321831

>>4321798
An electric kettle boils in less than a minute, but using an old fashioned stove-top kettle takes ages.

>>4321558
So it just pours out of the corner of the bag? Doesn't it spill everywhere? Using the more traditional plastic bottles at least have a solid spout/opening for pouring out, and a screw lid to stop it going off.

Just not sure I see the point in bags of milk.

>> No.4321835

>>4321831
>ages

Takes mine only a minute or two

>> No.4321838

>>4321831
Having used both, I'd say both boil in closer to five minutes

>> No.4321840

>>4321825
You're a bit dim really aren't you? The person you're replying to was making a point that you can say "why do this, when this works fine?" about most things going back to very simple concepts.

>> No.4321843

>>4321840
>You're a bit dim really aren't you? The person you're replying t

Are you? My point is that there is no point in BUYING an electric kettle when 99% of people already have a fucking stove.

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>>4321838
You've got a shitty electric kettle then. Mine takes under a minute and it's nearly 10 years old. Maybe the ones in the States are a bit different? In the UK they're pretty fast boiling.

>> No.4321852

>>4321843
lol, so instead of buying a kettle to boil water quickly, you'd rather warm it up over a flame? Well each to their own I guess.

Most houses come with a floor you can sit on, so what's the point in buying a couch?

>> No.4321855

>>4321846
Why would I even use a kettle when the microwave has more uses and can boil water in seconds not minutes?

>> No.4321856

>>4321831
>So it just pours out of the corner of the bag? Doesn't it spill everywhere?
No, it is a very controllable pour.

The point? Less garbage, less space, hermetically sealed... many things come in diverse packages, just because something seems different to what you are used to doesn't mean it is pointless.

>> No.4321857

>>4321846
>shitty
>electric kettle

Pick two. Unless for whatever reason you bought one for more than $20?

>> No.4321858

>>4321498
Yeah, Americans don't have a tea culture like in the UK. Who knew?

Anyway, I've always been curious about how a lot of countries use bags instead of jugs for milk. Pretty cool idea, I think.

>> No.4321859

>>4321855
Why would I even use a microwave when my stove has more uses?

>> No.4321862

>>4321852
I seriously ask this myself. I miss the soft, clean carpet from my real house, these tough dorm carpets haven't been properly cleaned in years.

Desks are boring and overly restrictive.

>> No.4321863

>>4321858
Half of Americans drink tea daily and instant coffee is a big market.

>> No.4321864

>>4321856
What sizes do the bags come in? Single Liters?

>> No.4321861

>>4321859
Because the microwaves is faster.

>> No.4321866

>>4321859
>people who heat the entire oven to warm one breakfast roll

Worse than hitler.

>> No.4321867

>>4321862
Carpet is terrible stuff man.

>>4321861
Oh okay, kind of like how an electric kettle is faster.

>> No.4321872

>>4321858
They have a sweetened iced tea culture

>> No.4321875

>>4321864
Yeah, I buy bags that in turn contain three 1 litre bags.

>> No.4321876

>>4321856
So what about when the bag is low? If you tip it up quite far, won't the bag fall out?

>> No.4321877

>>4321867
It's slower than the microwave and has limited uses. There is no benefit.

>> No.4321880

>>4321877
>It's slower than the microwave
See how long it takes you to boil 1 liter of water in a microwave.

>> No.4321881

>>4321867
You will never know the feeling of feeding your rat/bro bits of veggies while crosslegged, sipping on coffee, and arguing on 4chan.

Not to mention it was great to just keel over and start rolling around with a gf.

>> No.4321882

>>4321857
Well yes, generally.

ie:
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Search/ID72/33005908/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CHome+and+garden%7C33005908/pp/50/q/KETTLE.htm

They cost more than $20 (£15 or so in my currency), but once you've paid for it, you've got it for decades.

>> No.4321883

>>4321876
No, it stays lodged in there right to the end, you have to pull out the empty bag, it won't just fall out.

>> No.4321884

>>4321863
Coffee is much more prevalent here, and if you drink a lot of coffee you're less likely to drink instant, I think.

>instant coffee is a big market.
Yeah, I guess. I don't really know a lot of people who drink instant. It's mostly reserved for non coffee drinkers to keep in their house for guests because it keeps forever.

>>4321875
So you keep two bags in the fridge with no pitcher? What other sizes do the bags come in? We have gallon and half gallon. Those are the most common.

>> No.4321885

>>4321880
I don't know about your weak ass microwaves in Europe but I doubt it takes more than a minute.

>> No.4321886

>>4321858
You can get bags of milk at Tesco, ASDA and Sainsbury's, but no one tends to notice them because they're just not popular over here.

>> No.4321887

>>4321856
>less garbage

Put that sort of plastic is non-recyclable.

>hermetically sealed

The caps in the US have that too, they snap the first time you open them

>> No.4321889

>>4321881
They are dust traps that off gas formaldehyde and VOCs... I haven't had carpet in years and don't miss it man.

Maybe in the winter time it would be nice, but I just wear slippers. So much cleaner.

>> No.4321890

>>4321882
I have a perfectly functioning kettle passed down from my great-grandmother.

>> No.4321893

American here. I don't own an electric kettle because I really have no use for it. I don't drink tea, just coffee, and I have a drip pot for that.

>> No.4321898

>>4321880
lol, I have a 1300 Watt microwave and that shit will boil a cup of water in like 20 seconds.

>> No.4321899

>>4321883
Really? How? Sounds like witchcraft to me!

Might try it sometime, but don't like the idea that we have to buy a jug ("pitcher") specifically for them.

>> No.4321900

>have electric kettle
>Think they're awesome
>No big deal that most of my fellow murrikans don't have one.

You'd be surprised at the number of stove top kettles here.

>>4321884
I'm a coffee lover and drink instant a lot when I'm living in a dorm. Only the nescafe packs, though. They're really good for being instant.

>> No.4321895

>>4321885
Not everyone is European, just a heads up.

>>4321884
Yeah, I just keep the other two bags in the original bag they come in. I am pretty sure they only come in 1 litre sizes, anything smaller/bigger is in a carton.

>>4321887
>Put that sort of plastic is non-recyclable.
Nope. Plus, old grandmothers slit one end, wash them, and use them as bags.

>> No.4321896

>>4321889
>formaldehyde and VOC's

Let me guess, you got them chemically cleaned?

A quick vacuum every month or so is painless.

Also fuck slippers, no one should have to wear shoes in the house or be scared of lying on the floor for any reason whatsoever

>> No.4321901

>>4321896
No, carpets naturally off gas that stuff over their lifetime. They aren't really made out of great stuff (at least the average artificial kind).

I just hate the idea of having something that can never be properly cleaned, especially with a dog.

>> No.4321902

>>4321893
I'm in the same boat. I know a few tea drinkers and they all have some sort of way to boil water that isn't the stove or a microwave. Usually it's a kettle.

>> No.4321904

>>4321893
I use mine a lot for noodle cups/bowls along with tea and such.

>> No.4321907

>>4321900
>I'm a coffee lover and drink instant a lot when I'm living in a dorm.
Yeah, exactly. People who drink instant usually have a valid reason like that.

>> No.4321908

>>4321901
What does a dog have to do with anything? All they do is shed and you can scrape that right off, and scrub any muddy spots.

It's a pain to clean, but so much better than being upright 24/7

>> No.4321909

>>4321890
If it takes 5 minutes to boil, I'm really not surprised.

>> No.4321910

>>4321900
You can get an excellent espresso OR single serving drip coffee machine for like $40 each

They just plug in and take two seconds to clean, man, fuck that instant jazz

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>>4321900
>coffee lover
>drink instant a lot
>nescafe

>> No.4321913

>>4321910
Only reason is space. I just don't have space in the dorm for a coffee pot. Well I could if I pitched my kettle but I use it for more things than coffee.

I want a press but never get around to buying one.

>> No.4321914

>>4321909
Well I find it hard to believe an electric kettle can boil a reasonable amount of water in less than a minute. Water is a bitch to heat, so if anything your kettles probably boil an ounce at a time

>> No.4321915

Electric Kettle vs Stove vs Microwave for boiling water:

http://www.treehugger.com/clean-technology/ask-pablo-electric-kettle-stove-or-microwave-oven.html

tl;dr - kettle wins.

>> No.4321916

ITT: Americans getting trolled. There is no way you fucking yurofag brits drink milk from a bag, what are you from the third world?

>> No.4321919

>>4321914
Depends on the volume of water. I'm talking about enough water for say 2 cups.

>> No.4321920

>>4321916
We don't. Canadians do.

>> No.4321922

>>4321915
>900 watt microwave

pls go. That is like the weakest powered microwave you could possibly buy

>> No.4321923

>>4321919
Ah. Well I'm basing both on a little over a liter.

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>>4321913
Really? Cuz here's my espresso machine, roommate's drip machine, and a hot water kettle on a 2x2 fridge top

>> No.4321926

>>4321922
No its not. 650 is probably the lowest, but we have different electricity wattage power jiggerwatts in the UK than the US, so who knows.

>> No.4321927

>>4321922
I've seen as little as 700 watt microwaves. Anything less than 1000 is useless.

>> No.4321928

>using a microwave

You have to be kidding me. mmmm soggy reheated food anyone?

>> No.4321930

>>4321928
The urodumbdumbs brought it up

>> No.4321940

>>4321930
No we didn't. Someone was saying "kettles? hurr hurr, use a microwave its faster"

>> No.4321943

>>4321940
>getting this defensive over the suggestion of a microwave

LOLopeons

>> No.4321948

The problem with electric kettles in the US is the low voltage of the power lines (110V vs 230-240V in Europe)

This essentially halves the possible power of electic kettles in 110V countries.

>> No.4321950

>>4321940
Because the microwave is indeed faster? If people are asking why we don't have X, we explained to them that it's because we have Y and it fits our needs.

>> No.4321953

>>4321950
>Because the microwave is indeed faster?

No they're not. Unless you have a >3000W microwave, which I highly doubt.

>> No.4321956

>>4321950
I don't like the idea that an any second my super heated water can explode.
I'll stick with my stove top kettle thanks.

>> No.4321957

>>4321953
Yeah, microwaves are slower than kettles which are weaker. I'm sure, you're right.

>> No.4321964

>>4321846
US house voltage is half what it is in the UK, which means our kettles are inherently slower and less powerful.

>> No.4321966

>>4321956
So leave a wooden spoon in it or a tea bag or something.

>> No.4321975

>>4321966
I actually don't have any wooden spoons or chopsticks and a tea bag sitting in lukewarm water for a few minutes won't taste all that good.

I'm perfectly satisfied having a tea kettle that can boil large amounts of water.

>> No.4321984

>>4321975
>I actually don't have any wooden spoons or chopsticks and a tea bag sitting in lukewarm water for a few minutes won't taste all that good.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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>>4321948
japan's only got 100V and they do alright

>> No.4322027

>>4321964
>hurrrr voltage guys

You have no idea what you are talking about.

>> No.4322045

I'm Canadian and I've never seen bagged milk in my entire life.

>> No.4322087

i dont understand how the bag stays in the pitcher.

>> No.4322088

>>4321948
voltage != wattage

>> No.4322131

>>4322045
I seriously doubt that.

>>4322087
I just finished a bag and checked. I can turn the pitcher upside down and the empty bag just stays in there. Just friction/pressure of the bag against the pitcher I guess. When the bag is full it presses against the pitcher, giving even more stability.

It it spilled everywhere and flopped out people wouldn't use it.

>> No.4322189

>>4322131
Apparently Albertans use mostly cartons for their milk. Not sure about anywhere else.

>> No.4322399

>>4322189

As an Albertan who has lived in BC half his life, I have only once seen bagged milk, it was in a little private owned grocery in a small town in BC.

That's the only time in 25 years I've ever seen Bagged milk.

>> No.4322428

>>4322088
This shit again? Here's the copypasta from another thread:


In the USA a standard household outlet is 110V, 15 amps. (maybe 10 in old houses, but 15 is typical). Therefore the most powerful electric kettle that could exist in the USA for use with a standard outlet is 110 x 15 = about 1500 watts. In practice they are usually a little smaller, usually around 1200 watts. Go visit Wal-Mart's website (or Amazon, or similar, and look around for specs).

The UK has the same size breakers (10 or 15 amp, typically) but double the voltage. Thus, twice the power is possible. Now do a search for the power ratings of 240V electric kettles. A quick check on Amazon and Google revealed power ratings from 1500w through 2400 w. That's approximate twice that of the US models.

Now let's compare this to an electric range. A cheap electric range usually has 2400 watt small burners or 4000 watt large burners, which are equal to if not exceeding the power of a UK electric kettle.
The voltage alone, no. but the combination of the standard circuit breaker size and the voltage determines the maximum power you can get out of a plug-in appliance.
Power = volts x amps

US is 110V x 15 amps = 1650 watts maximum, assuming nothing else was on that same circuit.

UK is 240V x 15 amps = 3600 watts

Thus a UK outlet is capable of supping a lot more power than a US one. Or, in other words, A US electric kettle can never be more powerful than about 1500 watts or so whereas the UK models can be twice that powerful. A simple search for specifications of 110v and 240v electric kettles confirms the difference in power ratings. The only 240V ones with low power are small dual-voltage "travel" models. Look at the standard ones and you'll see that the US models are less powerful than the UK versions.

>> No.4322445

>>4322428
this is bullshti I have a electric kettle and it boils water far faster than the stove does which is gas.

>> No.4322456

I've found its rare to even find them in stores in the U.S. Electric kettles that is. That's not that you can't find them, I've seen them for sale at popular stores, but there's a very limited variety when it comes to brands and capacity.

I own a stove top kettle and there's nothing wrong with it. On high heat, I have boiling water in 2 minutes or less. There's really no need to have an electric kettle in most cases. Is it not common to have stoves readily available in small apartments or dorms and the like, elsewhere? Even most shit-tier housing in the U.S. at least comes with a stove of some kind.

Admittedly, if I lived in a dorm, I'd much rather have an electric kettle than have to walk down six floors to heat water on the filthy communal stove. That's about the only reason I can think of for having one.

>> No.4322484

>>4321957
>Yeah, microwaves are slower than kettles which are weaker. I'm sure, you're right.

A kettle uses a resistive element which is the most efficient way of converting electricity to heat. The element is in direct contact with the water. Again. Efficient.

A microwave has to run a highfrequency jig and use a magnetron generating magnetic fields and flinging electrons around and all this nonsense. The generated microwaves then have to bounce around in there and be absorbed by the water, if they even make it into the chamber in the first place. Far less efficient and much slower at heating the water.

The only reason microwaves exist is that you can't stick an electric element in your pizza. For heating water using a microwave is just idiotic.

>> No.4322488

>>4321498
What are electric kettles good for other than making tea?

>> No.4322492

>>4321838
I have a tiny electric kettle that will boil a cup of water in 10 seconds flat.

>> No.4322496

>>4322488
>Implying the only time you ever use water in cooking is to make tea.

Come on man, use your imagination. I always boil water in the kettle before making pasta or rice or boiling anything. It's far far quicker than putting cold water in a pan and waiting 5-10 minutes for it to boil. Kettle takes 60 seconds at most.

>> No.4322500

>>4322492
>yurotards actually believe this

>> No.4322510

>>4322500
I'm an American. I got it from a second-hand store as part of a travel pour-over coffee kit. It's white and says Brookstone on the side, with a slide switch to go between 120/240 volts.

People never believe me when I tell them. But it really will. 8 ounces is not a lot of liquid to heat up.

>> No.4322513

>>4322496
I guess I'm gonna be a typical american and say it's just not worth it.

>> No.4322522

>>4322496

I cheat a bit with the stove. I turn the burner on high first, then I turn on the hot water in my sink and fill up the pan. Toss that water down the drain, then fill again. Put the hot water on the hot burner and it will boil in about a 50-90 seconds depending on the amount of liquid.

>that nice water heater flavor

>> No.4322528

>>4321498
>Do any Americans recognize what is in the pic right away?

A European toilet.

>> No.4323110

>>4322428
Essentially correct but fails to note that the UK plug is fused, generally at 13A, so ~3kW. Also uses the top end of the 220-240 range while using the low end of the 110-120 range, which skews the numbers a bit.