/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>4270464
faggot television for faggots

its great he breaks things down in a scientific manner so everything comes out perfect. I dont think ive seen one of his shows where ive gone how did he do that

I like the show

It's nice, without him we'd all still be opening jars of spaghetti sauce instead of cooking it ourselves like patrician chefs.

>>4270476
u srs?/10

Alton Brown is extremely entertaining to watch. He's also very educational. Thus, he's usually my recommendation when younger folks want to begin learning about cooking. He's also generally excellent for scientific types and (pardon the sexism) men due to his preference for experimentation over anecdote.

>>4270464
seems like a massive sperg

>>4270464
Alton Brown knows how to cook, teach, entertain and present in good manner and humour.
A+ would watch again

He's pretty good. Pretty entertaining, and very informative. He's basically the mister rogers of cooking. Certainly better than guy fieri, paula dean, rachel ray, and the rest of that crowd.

Cooking shows are so god damn different here in the UK. Maybe I'm imagining it.

Have you chaps seen any Saturday Kitchen with James Martin? Or Rick Stein? Nigel Slater?

I was suprised that from a guy who takes the scientific method to his cooking is a christian.

He's okay though, but there are better real chefs out there like the roux brothers.

>>4270525

He doesn't "take a scientific method to his cooking". He's an actor. He has an acting degree. He does not, nor has he ever, owned, ran, or even worked in a restaurant. He's not a chef. Heck, he's not even a line cook. He reads a script for a TV show, and that script happens to be scientific in nature.

In that regard he's doing exactly what reglious fundies do: take the stack of paper that someone hands you, then read it out loud as the truth. I just so happens that his TV script writers are a little more on the ball than the bible...

>>4270527
>r/atheism is leaking into /ck/

welp, time to kill myself

>>4270527
He does have a culinary arts degree, which is more than the majority of /ck/ can say.

You're crazy if you think Good Eats isn't a pet project of his and just some corporate bullshit.

>>4270527
You might want to look into some babyproofing; a kid could hurt himself on those sharp edges

I love that show. No homo, but I would totally suck AB's dick.

Too bad its not on food net anymore, so I cant watch it

i enjoy learning about the science behind cooking. the humor is usually very lame.

>>4270527
did alton brown steal your girlfriend or run over your dog?

He is an evangelical christian. He has no business talking about science.

I don't get the appeal. Average cooking, generic info. Looks like a friendly enough guy, but that's it.

>>4270604
I think it's lame on purpose. A lot of the jokes are like dad jokes.

>>4270606
>atheistfag buttmad that a Christian is better at science than most atheist

>>4270598
Youtube.s

>>4270604
>did alton brown steal your girlfriend or run over your dog?

No, I just find it odd that so many people seem to idolize him, yet he's nothing special. He demonstrates basic cooking to newbies and explains the how-and-why behind that. I can see how that may be appealing, but it's nothing exceptional. You could learn the exact same thing from cookbooks which have been around for decades. Alton is not a world-class expert, innovator, or michelin-starred master. His program covers cooking basics. Fawning over Alton is like fawning over a B-list actor or a minor-league sports player. Sure, they may be more competent than the average anon, but why look up to them when you could look up to the real experts instead?

>>4270622
Fawning over Alton isn't like fawning over a minor league sports player. It's like fawning over your little league baseball coach that really taught you how to bat, and made sure that practice was always fun.

It's the relationship. If you can watch his shows without learning much, it's fully understandable you wouldn't like it much. But we don't all start out as experienced cooks, do we? And cooking can be intimidating to a beginner.

Now quit your trolling. Or quit your holier-than-thou attitude of knowing who the "real experts" are, if you're serious.

>>4270606
I don't see him forcing his beliefs on anyone, so I couldn't give less of a shit what he does in his free time.

>>4270622
The good thing about Alton is that he does not pretent to be some world famous cook either.

He breaks cooking down to the basics in ways the average pleb can understand.

I would watch Good Eats instead of some Michelin chef that use spices I never have heard of and use 20different hardware that cost your shirt.

>>4270649
>use 20different hardware that cost your shirt
Which reminds me of a big reason I love Good Eats: AB goes out of his way to demonstrate ways to get things done without buying expensive specialized equipment.

I like him.

He's fairly entertaining, and he teaches basics things that you can apply to other parts in your everyday cooking.

>>4270656
The same.

I have been put off from trying so many recipes because they have loads of specialized equipment and/or just loads of ingredients that is almost impossible to find in my local shop.

I also love how Alton don't just make a show with 20random recipes, he makes shows dedicated to different ingredients and explore the different things you can do with them.

He's simply just fun to watch.
The way he breaks it down.
The way it's easy to follow.
The way he's so passionate, over-the-top and yet down-to-the-ground.

Bible-nut, yeah, but he's from the deep South or something, so that's what you get.

>>4270646
You cannot believe that the world is six thousand years old and be a decent scientist.
You simply cannot.

>>4270665
He was born in California.

>>4270670
Well good thing he isn't trying to be a scientist then. I don't see him trying to force me to believe the same things he does, so it is still completely irrelevant to the quality of his cooking show. The only reason you would hold whatever silly but harmless things he does off-camera against the quality of his COOKING show would be if you are a gigantic retard who won't listen to anyone unless they already agree with everything you think.

>>4270671
>The more you know.jpeg
Oh, well.

>>4270678
Evangelical Christianity is anti science.They should be barred from even using the word science.

>>4270670
You're projecting the beliefs of a minority onto a large population. Plenty of Christians call themselves Christians, practice as Christians, read the Bible etc, but do not believe everything every other Christian believes. Personally, I call myself Christian but don't believe in hell. And don't fucking tell me to make up some new name for myself just so you don't get confused. Go fuck yourself instead.

The world is too big for the little box you're trying to put it in, my friend.

>>4270685
Okay.

>>4270685

>>4270689
He is not just a christian. He is evangelical. Look that up

>>4270689

>Personally, I call myself Christian but don't believe in hell

you might as well claim your are chinese.

words have meanings. a Christian has accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and believes in an afterlife either in Heaven or Hell.

now let us pray.

>>4270704
sing it, brother!

>>4270704
Christian only means that you accept that Jesus Christ is the son of God, the messiah brought down from heaven, and the Savior of mankind.
There are so many sects to Christianity, trying to say which one is the 'true' one is ridiculously stupid.

>this thread
Good to know we can still discuss food and cooking on a rational level.

Honestly, I think the fact that he's not really a chef and more of an ascended layman makes his show that much better for people just getting into cooking, or people who appreciate the why in cooking along with the how. He clearly knows his shit and the show is clearly his baby, and it makes it all the more enjoyable IMO.

>>4270697
Just did.

Preliminary research suggests that Alton is actually evangelical, but says nothing about evangelicals believing in a young Earth. That seems to be the Southern Baptists.

I'll look into it more later. Are you sure you're not trying to pack the world into a box consisting of preconceived notions? I find the odds that I'm talking to someone who actually is an expert on the differences between branches of Christianity vanishingly slim, but you never know.

>>4270704
It's true, I never claimed not to be lying when I say it. But since I do believe in Jesus, and rather diligently try to follow his teachings, and stay involved in my church, it's easier to lie. Is it my fault I think the Old Testament is hogwash?

I believe the point, though, that we're discussing is whether or not you can infer someone's beliefs based upon a given group affiliation.

Personally, I think you can't. When someone says "I'm a member of so and so church." it does not AT ALL give you the right to automatically assume their personal beliefs are in line with said church. People just aren't that simple, nor are they that trustworthy. A group affiliation is just a group affiliation. You have no idea WHY they might choose to maintain that affiliation. Case in point, my mother was a practicing Catholic for many years, and personally believed in Buddhism. Buddha didn't give a fuck about any "one true religion" though, and she didn't believe in God, Jesus or the commandments, so she wasn't breaking any rules she cared about.

>>4270724
>but says nothing about evangelicals believing in a young Earth. That seems to be the Southern Baptists.
Keep reading

>>4270745
That's a long wikipedia article, and I'm about to make breakfast. I'll read it later. There were a couple other hits I got I wanted to check out as well.

(polite sage I should've been using for the past three posts)

>Good Eats introduces the viewers the simplicity of cooking with relative information.

Good Eats is not a cooking show but more of a scientific informative.

>>4270751
I am pretty sure that evangelical means young earther

Alton Brown makes cooking easy.
>slightly troll worthy watch, but entertaining

i hate the show,
i hate the name,
i hate the guy!

I love him on twitter.

he answers a literal fuckload of questions every day, but to do it he writes his answer on a sticky note and takes a picture of his monitor with the question above it. Its amusing and he often draws like on Good Eats

Also PROOF ALTON IS A GOD CHRISTIAN WHO DONT GIVE A FUCK

He's really informative but comes off with that sort of douchey, flamer demeanor that exists in Southern California or the Bay Area. You know, the type that only buys Organic Gluten-free Fair Trade Natural products and is the most obnoxious locavore asshole. It bugs me slightly, but not so much that I can't watch his program.

>>4271193
I don't even understand why its being brought up. I'm atheist, but it defines me as much as the color of my piss.
In addition
ITS A FUCKING COOKING SHOW LOL

>/ck/ getting angry that Alton Brown does food science on his show while he's a Christian off the camera
this board is getting shittier and shittier everyday

>>4271211
it's because he makes a big deal about it
Although when you think of the foodnetworks demographic. It would be more shocking if he wasent. It's like saying I'M PART OF THE 95% OF THE GLOBAL POPULATION WHO HAVE IMAGINARY FRIENDS. It really serves no purpose other than to give people something else to agree with him on.

>>4271225
I don't remember him making a big deal about it.
Anyways, see the pic in
>>4271193

Stop trying to stir the pot for the sake of it, for fuck sakes.

>>4271225
When does he make a big deal about it? I've never seen this.

>>4270464
Doing shots in an Atlanta strip club with Anthony Bourdain

>>4271214

well 4chan is pretty full of edgy antitheists.

They claim t be atheist but they're really not, because they carry it to the point of a religion themselves.

>>4271736

fuck me, I can't breathe

>>4271736
clermont lounge?

>>4270525
oh look, another atheist who doesn't actually understand religion or the scientific method

>>4271856
Are you one of those anons that think religion answers questions that science has nothing to say about?
If so , you are an idiot.

>>4271104
no, it doesn't
There's a reason "Young Earth Creationist" is a term. It's because "Evangelical" didn't cover YEC beliefs.

My in-laws are Evangelical, are always trying to talk to me about how I need to be "born again" (I am Lutheran and rightly recognize the Evangelical "born again" philosophy to be a trumped-up misreading of John 3:3).

That being said, they are not YECs. One is a doctor. ANother is a chemistry post-doc. Another is a green tech engineer.

>>4271864

>points out that you aren't even correctly using the term "scientific method"
>start asking anon if he thinks that religion answers all questions

the fuck? How does your brain even logically connect the two? You're obviously more concerned about being edgy on the internet than actually having intelligent discourse.

>>4271864
No, I'm one of those guys that thinks the scientific method investigates falsifiable claims and nothing else.

>>4271895


OOOOH GOD THIS GUYS PENIS IS ALL UP IN YOUR ASSHOOOOOOLE

>>4271895
That is not at all true. Science investigates all sorts of things that are not falsifiable. You are a fool.
While we may never be able to prove that there is no god, we can certainly say that the odds are far from 50/50.

>>4271899
Not really, string theory is not falsifiable and we damn sure study that.
My asshole contains no penis.

I've been watching from the first season, and I'm on season 8 now. He knows his shit, and he doesn't assume you know the basics, and just glaze over "elementary" stuff.

He is educational, and he's encouraged me to get into making things from scratch that I used to always buy pre-packaged, and that is priceless.

Beer, pasta, bread and bacon come to mind, but I'm sure there are more.

>>4271907

Dude, put the katana down and look at yourself.

>>4271920
Do you understand that quite a bit of theoretical mathematics is not falsifiable? Yes or no?

>>4271895
Oh I just got it, you are hiding behind the subtle distinction between scientific method and science.

Well I will give you your hollow victory and say that science has plenty to say about the existence of god.

>>4270712

>>4271907
I repeat,
>the scientific method investigates falsifiable claims and nothing else

>>4271931
do you understand theoretical math was considered philosophy until the 20th century when math professors got buttmad about being considered liberal arts professors?

>>4272003
>the scientific method investigates falsifiable claims and nothing else
But it doesn't necessarily.

>>4272008
>do you understand theoretical math was considered philosophy until the 20th century when math professors got buttmad about being considered liberal arts professors?
...or until technology progressed to the point where some theories could be tested?

>>4272015

Yes, it does necessarily. That's is in fact the definition of the scientific method.

>>4272017
>theoretical math is not falsifiable
>theoretical math is falsifiable
o-ok

>>4272015
Yes, it categorically does. What the FUCK do you think the "hypothesis" stage of the scientific method fucking is you double nigger

>>4270501
I've always considered him to be the Bill Nye of cooking.

>>4272185
>I've always considered him to be the Bill Nye of cooking.

I wholeheartedly agree with this comparison. Especially considering that I grew up with Bill Nye, and then started watching Alton when I moved out and really started cooking on my own.

ITT: The biggest fucking idiots of /ck/

Enjoy your foodnetwork, you tasteless dilettantes.

>>4274834
>>4274834
B...but Bill Nye is an atheist and a brilliant human being?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFgOU

>>4270527
I want sauce on this
god I want sauce on this so hard
I have always had a feeling he's full of shit

>>4274859

>Implying that Alton Brown is representative of Food Network
>Implying that half of /ck/, at any given time, isn't fast food threads

Get off your high horse. I've worked for chefs (yeah, in pretty decent French restaurants, for example), that referred me to Good Eats to better understand how to make something (caramel sauce, for example).

>>4270476
His videos can /thread a lot of threads

>>4274881
that's because Good Eats is Cooking for Dummies, only in TV format

to make another metaphor, Good Eats teaches you how to mix and apply paint. it does not in anyway get you closer to being a painter, beyond that

His pad thai episode is so bad it's not even funny.

He plates up the dish and a giant milky pool comes running out all over the plate and I damn near puked.

>>4274881
Dilettantes working for dilettantes this would not surprise me. Fastfood threads are terrible but they're not kidding themselves. Or think they're remotely sophisticated.

>>4274868

I don't think I've actually watched the science guy since somewhere in the 90's, but damn, he's still cool as fuck - he's a lot older than I remember, but still cool as fuck.

Nonetheless, what Alton Brown does on his show (a show about food), is pretty much what Bill Nye did on his.

I am certainly an atheist (typically not outspoken in any way, and I don't intend to derail the thread in any way), and the science guy gives good reasons for actively being atheist (as much as that makes sense).

That said, I really don't care what Alton Brown believes, because he is typically quoting Harold McGee, Julia Child, or any other number of established food writers/etc... In any case, he make a good show, and adds quite a bit of new ideas (particularly when it comes to equipment).

>>4274905
> quoting Julia Child
> any time, ever
stay plebeian

>>4274896
>Good Eats teaches you how to mix and apply paint

I used the example of making caramel. The first time I did it I burnt it. My chef said, "don't worry, as long as you know where you went wrong. Lets mix the burnt caramel into our homemade vanilla ice cream and serve burnt caramel ice cream as a dessert special." Guess what, the burnt caramel ice cream sold out.

There are certainly books that you could learn much more from than Good Eats - let alone working in a restaurant under an experienced chef. But I have read books, and worked in/do work in restaurants, and other than brute trial and error, it makes a whole lot of sense to have the "basics" of what's really going on when you cook something explained to you...

>>4274917
> My chef said, "don't worry, as long as you know where you went wrong. Lets mix the burnt caramel into our homemade vanilla ice cream and serve burnt caramel ice cream as a dessert special."

your chef deserves to be hanged by his thumbs and naturally you are just as bad

>>4274924
oops, sorry, forgot the rabbit ears
> your "chef"

>>4274907

I first learned how to make crepes from a French exchange student. She was from Brittany/Bretagne France (around the area that crepes come from). I couldn't entirely remember how to make them, and then I looked it up and came across Alton Brown's recipe. Guess what, it was almost identical as to how I was taught by someone who grew up in the region where crepes are from. It was only later that I learned that Alton Brown's crepe recipe/technique is a complete rip off of Julia Child...

>>4274935
guess what, it is impossible to fuck up EVERY recipe you copy, over the course of a career as long as Julia's. Few people understand though that she was a gourmet, not a chef. Some of the shit she wrote... my god. Also, what she preached was not French haute cuisine, just random French dishes adapted somewhat for an American audience
also, crepes are fucking simple to make... there is no 'ripping off' there, just an age-old recipe

>>4274924
>>4274929

I'm sorry I learned how to cook from a Chef who knew what the fuck he was doing and was a fucking awesome teacher.

Like I said, that dessert sold out that night (= a chef who knows what he's doing, no questions asked). I also went on from there and have worked in awesome places, based on what I learned there and his recommendations.

I would really like to hear where you all learn the basics (meaning, the basics necessary to work in anything more than a grill, deep fry, pizza or fast food place.

>>4274949
> that dessert sold out that night = a chef who knows what he's doing
no it just means a shameless hack perpetrated a scam on an uneducated and unwary public

> I would really like to hear where you all learn the basics
in the kitchen, practicing standard recipes from decent cookbooks until you get them right EVERY time? do you have any idea how long it took me to learn to fillet a fish? fuck.

or from an actual chef? in a restaurant or learning institution? where you do the same, but with the benefit of personalized feedback?

>>4274945
>also, crepes are fucking simple to make... there is no 'ripping off' there, just an age-old recipe

I've literally seen hundreds of crepe (and galette) recipes. There are variations, don't be an idiot.

It is an established fact (Brown even said so in one of his books or something) that he is completely copying Julia Child's recipe.

I'm not justifying Julia Child. If anything I'm admitting that what Alton Brown does is research, and takes established recipes and things that work, and a lot of the time makes them even easier/more effective, in part by actually explaining what is happening to the food when you cook it.

Please, explain your situation in a way that can possibly justify being an asshole towards a show that does just this (i.e. gives awesome advice, recipes, techniques, and most of all, references).

>>4274961
> Please, explain your situation in a way that can possibly justify being an asshole towards a show that does just this (i.e. gives awesome advice, recipes, techniques, and most of all, references)

I am not illiterate. Therefore, I do not need what the Food Network is selling - basic techniques, age-old recipes. Boring shit, iow, some of it so mis-understood and/or mis-represented that it's funny/sad.

>>4274957
>or from an actual chef? in a restaurant or learning institution? where you do the same, but with the benefit of personalized feedback?

If you actually worked in a kitchen you would know that the majority of chefs really do not understand why what they do works. They have learned from rote memory/repeated practice/technique.

"If I do this, and it looks, smells, and tastes like this, then I am doing it right." Those kinds of chefs may be world renowned, but really aren't the best teachers, unless you start when you are 13 and work as a slave...

If you worked in good restaurants since you were 13, I doubt you would have the time to be on /ck/; its simply a shit load of work, and a ridiculous amount of hours.

>>4274969
(cont.)
have you actually tried this, for example?
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/lentil-soup-recipe/index.html
it is fucking disgusting and the technique is all wrong too

>>4274969
God I wish that's what they were still selling. Now it's just cooking reality shows and semi-homemade recipies for soccer moms.

>>4274976
> the majority of chefs really do not understand why what they do works
again, those are not chefs, just hacks who should be hanged by their thumbs
> If you worked in good restaurants since you were 13
no, I have not, or I wouldn't be here, indeed
but I take pride in knowing the whys and wherefores of what I do, in thinking before doing and in not cutting any fucking corners

>>4274979
>have you actually tried this, for example?

Honestly, I've only ever tried a handful of his recipes. In any case, I only ever use the recipes from the show, and not from the foodnetwork website (which I immediately realized is shit tier transcription, and not even worth looking at).

I typically use Alton Brown for techniques (such as different uses for basic kitchen equipment), and for basic frameworks for recipes I haven't really made before.

Pulling up one random recipe and calling it disgusting, let alone "the wrong technique" makes no sense. He doesn't really give techniques, but basic, template type formulas and techniques to make dishes. I mean, anything not strictly American he always admits is his interpretation and dumbed down version of (which doesn't mean people who like him are following those recipes exactly as they are written).

>>4274985
>again, those are not chefs, just hacks who should be hanged by their thumbs

I had a particular chef that I learned from in mind when I wrote that.

Guess what, this particular chef was also one of Thomas Keller's teachers, not too far back in the day. I've been primarily French trained (although I live in America), but as far as the West goes (as that is what I know), I will not back down from my previous statement that a vast majority of renowned chefs don't entirely understand the processes of what they are doing. It doesn't really matter when you've spent the better part of your life developing those skills, but you must not have very much experience if you really think that chefs are "hacks" if they can't explain the physical/chemical processes that are occurring to an intern...

>>4274995
> calling it "the wrong technique" makes no sense
oh, really?

> Place the olive oil into a large 6-quart Dutch oven and set over medium heat. Once hot, add the onion, carrot, celery and salt and sweat until the onions are translucent

see, this is wrong on so many levels. first off, if you are going to just boil your ingredients afterwards for 45 minutes and then puree them you don't need to sweat them because you obviously don't care about look and texture, you can just boil them and be done with it

second, by sweating them instead of sauteeing you give up on the delicious flavors from the Maillard reaction.

>strictly American
no such thing unless you mean shitty fast food

>>4275004
> you really think that chefs are "hacks" if they can't explain the physical/chemical processes that are occurring to an intern...

I really believe that chefs indeed should be able to explain not the "why" necessarily but the "how" and "wherefore" in great detail and with clarity

>>4275020
>strictly American
>no such thing unless you mean shitty fast food

You have clearly never watched the show, which has a recurring theme of cooking American food.

Yes, America (the United States, if you want to be anal about it), despite being a very young country, does in fact have a large number of dishes, let alone regional cuisines (just look at Cajun or Creole food) that clearly originated from this country.

I liked it years ago when it first started. But I quickly came to loathe Alton Brown. He's annoying as fuck. And while he has some good tips and tricks, and some good explanations for why things work the way they do, it's a show for beginners, not for people who already know what they're doing in the kitchen. Unless you just like listening to his annoying voice.

>>4275050
> Cajun or Creole food
pig-disgusting slimy-spicy fatty stews of EVERYTHING
oh yeah. gimmie dat soul-food, boy

>>4275059

Really? REALLY?

That's really the best you could do? I thought at least you would say that those are really French/African cuisines, and not "really" American. But resorting to simply trying to dismiss a pretty wide range of food by resorting to whatever the equivalent of ad hominem would be in this case (i.e. saying it is disgusting, and doing so based on unfounded stereotypes at that), is simply retarded.

I suspected you were merely trolling awhile back, but other threads/boards are slow right now, so I continued. In any case, you do realize that I could take ANY cuisine in the world (say, for example, that from whatever shit hole you are from - and I'm not even from the U.S. South, and don't consider that the food I identify with as American) and make a stereotype about it and dismiss it outright as not worth my time (which in your case is literally the equivalent of saying, "I don't like this food, so it doesn't count; I do eat fast food, so that is the only thing that comes from America...").

>>4275079
well those really are memories of African recipes and everyone knows that
what I was trying to say here is that it there is nothing particularly American about them, if you discount an unhealthy fascination with lard

>>4275081

Lard has less saturated fat than butter.

>>4275095
I have no problem with lard, in itself

>>4275081

So where are you from?

What culture did you grow up in, and what cuisine were you taught?

You clearly have no idea how culture, particularly food culture, has developed. There is virtually nowhere on Earth that has a cuisine that is not the result of multiculturalism (yeah, a new word for an old phenomenon). You do realize that tomatoes are from America (the continents), right? It's almost like you are saying that every Italian food that uses tomatoes is actually American...

>Yeah, that last statement was hyperbole, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about, and in such cases hyperbole is necessary to convey a point.

>>4275081
lard has been given a bad rap, America has pushed it aside in favor for unhealthy hydrogenated oils.

>>4275110
> What culture did you grow up in, and what cuisine were you taught?

Romania (bit of a melting-pot, if you take out the Slav, German, Hungarian and Turkish influences in our cooking you are left with nothing, really).

What little I learned formally was French "international" cooking (hotel fare, basically), at a no-name culinary college here. Antiquated stuff, but I haven't messed up a sauce in the past ten years, that I can recall.

>>4275135
>Romania

You forgot Gypsies.

>>4275110
> every Italian food that uses tomatoes is actually American...
that is of course not so
however, if you go to Italy you will discover to your surprise that TOMATOES ERRYWHERE is just the bit that Americans understood and adopted about Italian cooking/
It's actually quite complex stuff.

>>4275155
Gypsies are like southern American negroes when it comes to food - it's either soup or stew, and it's spicy as fuck. the end.

>>4275135

You said:

>well those really are memories of African recipes and everyone knows that

And then when I asked where you were from you said:

>>4275135

>Romania (bit of a melting-pot, if you take out the Slav, German, Hungarian and Turkish influences in our cooking you are left with nothing, really).

So I'm confused. Are you admitting that there is no such thing as Romanian cuisine as well (assuming there isn't distinctly Romanian fast food that I am unaware of - although most of my Great-grandparents immigrated from Romania, it is one place I have yet to visit).

Have you ever actually been to the States? I get the impression that many people abroad have very little knowledge about what America is actually like. (It is certainly the same thing for a good amount of Americans, the difference is that American media pretty much dominates the globe (hence the fact that you are writing in English on an American site...), and also the fact that the most outspoken Americans are backwoods retards that have never gone to another country and have no idea about the rest of the world other than what U.S. media/advertising has told them their entire lives).

>>4275157

Well, tomatoes are a new world food after all.. as is maize, which replaced chestnuts in polenta. Italian food would be very different today if not for the new world, more so than perhaps a lot of other european cuisines.

>>4270464
Alton is bad ass

>>4275164

I was just about to respond to this post, but you made my point exactly. Thank you. While I admitted I was writing in hyperbole, I'm glad at least there is someone else here who knows something about food...

>>4275163
> Are you admitting that there is no such thing as Romanian cuisine as well
oh, yes. there is no such thing. but you really should come here, the resulting mix is rather nice (although southern Slav influence means many of us cook really fucking bland stuff)

> Have you ever actually been to the States?
I can neither confirm nor deny. I did visit Mexico though. Make of that what you will.

Chinese invented rice so really, risotto is Chinese.

>>4275164
chestnuts? heh.
it was millet in Romania until very late in teh 18th

>>4275175
>Chinese invented rice so really, risotto is Chinese.

However bad this thread might look, nobody is going to fall for your obvious troll...

>>4275171
>Have you ever actually been to the States?
>I can neither confirm nor deny. I did visit Mexico though. Make of that what you will.

Well, you most likely ate much more authentic food than most Americans ever do (see the daily Taco Bell thread). The U.S. is definitely more influenced (culinary wise) by Mexico than vice versa, so I really think that you most likely don't have a very realistic idea of what American cuisine is like. Sure, it's nothing amazing, that has been refined for hundreds of years, and due to the mix of cultures and the short amount of time it has existed, most "American" cuisine is heavily influenced by immigrant cultures. Nonetheless, as the "new world", there are a number of ingredients (corn, tomatoes, potatoes, etc.) that Americans used in conjunction with a plethora of combined cuisines from Europe, Africa, and Asia, at the least.

>>4275200
>you most likely ate much more authentic food than most Americans ever do

*you most likely ate much more authentic Mexican food

You can taste the boiling rage going on here.
Now just add a pinch of salt.

>>4275205
heh
yeah

have a good day, fellow Romanian
I'm off to sleep

>>4275207
>You can taste the boiling rage going on here.
>Now just add a pinch of salt.

We've reached over 100 posts. I would recommend two good pinches of salt, just to begin with.

I want to go target shooting with him

his guns are sexy

Alton Brown is the Bill Nye of the Food Network

>>4275244
Better than Mrs. Ray.

>>4270557
Holy shit this thread got bad fast.

>>4275244
/thread

>>4275244
>>4275244

B...but Bill Nye is an atheist and a brilliant human being?
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFgOU

>>4275420

You could have just told people to read the thread instead of reposting...

>>4270464

It's a great show. I enjoy watching it whenever it is on.

>>4270604
I-...I always liked the jokes.
I also liked unwrapped even if I don't eat half of the shit they make on that show.

>>4270464

Good Eats is a great show. Alton Brown is like ... the Julia Child of the technological era, to some degree.

He doesn't go into technique like Pepin or classical interpretations like Child, he goes into history, production, chemistry, nutrition, law.

It's a very good show.

>>4275353

Shitposters have realized that Alton Brown threads can be destroyed by somehow making it about him being a Christian and it will dissolve into a 300 reply /r/atheism shitstorm

Based Alton Brown.

Probably my favorite Food Network show.
I kinda wanna drive to Marietta and kick it wit' him

>>4275549

B...but Bill Nye is an atheist and a brilliant human being?
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFgOU

>>4270527
>reglious

>>4275615
what does that have to do with anything that the person you're responding to said

>>4275625
Did you even read the thread?

>>4270606

This picture only serves to raise my respect for him.

>>4275681
That's Gary Sinise,Clownshoes.

>>4275664
yes. what he posted had nothing to do with what he replied to.

This guy is awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzzVdhyKjww

>>4275699
2/10 made me look

>>4270606
Yeah, how dare he

>>4270525
He's not a chef and never claimed to be.

>>4270598
Get your Youtube downloader ready.
http://www.youtube.com/goodeatscomplete

Unless what you meant was new episodes.

>>4270464
Greatest cooking show ever made as well as the greatest cooking show that will ever be made.

>>4271193
>i'm a skeptic, but i don't apply skepticism to my religion

>>4275873
>whyeveryonehatesatheists.jpg

>>4270563
I see what you did there.

Actually one of my favorite shows they ever produced on Food Network.

Really informative. He was like the Bill Nye of cooking.

>>4271211
I'm with this anon.

Good Eats is so great that Alton Brown is the only male on my top 10 television personalities I'd like to fuck list.

You can apply Christian principles to your life and not even believe in god. Fucking atheists man.

I like how this conversation went from AB worship, to atheism/Christianity trolling/raging, to Amerifat/Eurocunt trolling/flaming, to understanding and an eventual setting of the dust.

>>4275957
Welcome to 4chan.

This thread went from 0 to /pol/ real fast.

>>4275965

People get really mad when they don't have shared beliefs for some reason. It's a shame.

>>4275903
B...but Bill Nye is an atheist and a brilliant human being?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFgOU

>>4276035
>implying the atheists are as much to blame as the religious people who have killed and tortured them for millenia.

>>4275164
>chestnuts were the precursor to maize in polenta
... no... chestnuts were /A/ precursor, not /THE/ precursor. Before maize was introduced, a product that grows well no matter where you put it and what you do to it, each region of Italy made polenta from whatever local products were most common. For example, where I'm from, it was chickpeas (chickpea polenta is still somewhat common today). In other parts, it was chestnuts. Yet others it was buckwheat. Others it was fava beans (which dries quite nicely into a falafel-like thing, though square shaped). Saying that polenta before maize was made from chestnuts implies ignorance of all the other things used to make it, as well.

>>4276482

Chestnuts? Stay on topic anon, this thread is about how Alton is a christian and therefore incompetent.

I'd worship a statue of that guy.

Coolest bro-cook ever.

>>4276405

>I failed history class

It's ok, anon-kun :)

>>4276540
You trollin

He is a good man and he is trying to get more people into cooking. Which is more than can be said for a majority of /ck/

>respecting a celebrity, let alone a right-wing fundamentalist Christian one

Oh you guys

>>4276583
Only a pretentious idiot would wear a rolex.

>>4276600

considering the handgun, i'd say insecurity is behind the choice of watch.

>>4276600
He's saying "Look, I like to cook and am rich, but I like guns so I can relate to you".

>>4276600

>poorfag detected

That's not even an expensive model of rolex in the pic. It's like the cheapest one they make

>>4276583
>carbon steel
I thought all steel had carbon in it. Steel = iron + carbon, basically.

>>4276641

You are correct that the technical definition of steel is iron plus carbon. However in the cutlery & cooking trades "carbon steel" refers to steel with a relatively high carbon content as opposed to mild steel or stainless steel.

>>4276637
I don't think you understood his post.

>>4270598
its all for free on hulu and youtube

>>4276647
>>4276641

High carbon steels are extremely hard, and fantastic at holding an edge, but you need to baby them a bit more than stainless or they will oxidize.

I have one, but I don't use it as much because I usually don't want to be bothered cleaning it immediately after using it.

>>4277118
I have a cheap one, they are not as fragile as you might think.
Start using yours more and dont worry so much about babying it until it actually starts to have problems.

I really enjoy it. Kinda sad that it's over. I want to see alton keep doing different dishes and foods - even if he's done pretty much anything anyway.

Carbon steel = any steel not stainless and carbon content around 0.12-2%

I used to weld pipes, I should know.

>>4270527
>hurr durr he's just reading a script!

You do realize he's not just the starring actor of the show, right? He created it, wrote it, directed it, etc.

>>4277227
Lies

>>4277321
Here come the tinfoil hat brigade.

>>4277227
I'm failing to see how that doesn't make him a hack still.

>>4270464

This nigga told me it was a good idea to put salt on popcorn kernels before they're popped so that the salt will be "inside the pop-corn" or some shit. This is bullshit. You just end up with a bunch of oily salt on the bottom of the pan.

He makes it seem like it's essential to do a lot of unessential things, like buy fancy salt, and waste salt on things that shouldn't be salted. He's a salt apologist.

>>4277343
>He makes it seem like it's essential to do a lot of unessential things
Yep, then out of the other side of his mouth he's prattling on about "multi taskers"

>>4270622
I bet you hate Bill Nye too, faggot.

>>4270527
>He doesn't "take a scientific method to his cooking". He's an actor. He has an acting degree. He does not, nor has he ever, owned, ran, or even worked in a restaurant. He's not a chef. Heck, he's not even a line cook. He reads a script for a TV show, and that script happens to be scientific in nature.
>In that regard he's doing exactly what reglious fundies do: take the stack of paper that someone hands you, then read it out loud as the truth. I just so happens that his TV script writers are a little more on the ball than the bible...


Do you believe everything you see and hear on the internet? This butthurt is a good example of someone who has no idea what he's talking about. Brown has cooked extensively, and is considered quite good by many of the regulars. Just because someone says its so, doesn't mean it is.

>>4281219

My, you're right. The man is a fraud.

>>4277343
>salt apologist

8/10 giggled

I think Alton's a decent guy. The show is good. A lot of Amerifats need to see more "science based" shows.

Sometimes he does simple things like.. just take you through the history of something or explain what something, that most Amerifats might not be familiar with, is. I don't see a lot of other shows out there doing this and they fill a good niche.

I watched Alton take 20 minutes to make a cup of coffee once, never again... and he bores the living shit out of me.

Early Life

Brown was born in Los Angeles, California. He was in the Boy Scouts. He received a degree in drama from the University of Georgia. He began his career in cinematography and film production.

In the late 1980s and early 1990s, he was the cinematographer for several music videos, including The One I Love by R.E.M..

Career

Brown notes that he was dissatisfied with the quality of cooking shows airing on American television, so he set out to produce his own show. In preparation, he enrolled in the New England Culinary Institute, graduating in 1997. Brown says that he was a poor science student in high school and college, but he focused on the subject to understand the underlying processes of cooking. He is outspoken in his shows about his dislike of single-purpose kitchen utensils and equipment ("unitaskers"), such as garlic presses and margarita machines, although he adapts a few traditionally single-purpose devices, such as rice cookers and melon ballers, into multi-purpose tools.

TV series - Good Eats

The pilot for Good Eats first aired in July 1998 on the PBS member TV station WTTW in Chicago, Illinois. Food Network picked up the show in July 1999. In May 2011, Alton Brown announced an end to Good Eats after 14 seasons. The final episode, "Turn On the Dark", aired February 10, 2012.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alton_Brown

He graduated from cooking school in 1997 and his show started in 1998. He's just an actor. All this time I thought he was genuine.

Oh well.

>>4281289
>He graduated from cooking school in 1997 and his show started in 1998. He's just an actor. All this time I thought he was genuine.

>He graduated from cooking school in 1997 and his show started in 1998
>He graduated from cooking school in 1997
>He graduated from cooking school

>He's just an actor

What?


Alton's recipes and techniques are far more approachable than pretty much every other tv chef. The only other tv chef that has ever even begun to reach the depths of technical explanation is perhaps Julia Childs, who also shared the same nonchalant and devil-may-care attitude and approach to the subject that Alton shows.

This makes them both far more suitable to making the topic seem approachable, and their recipes attempt-able by all.

The only people that may actually approach the level of scientific explanation is perhaps the folks at America's Test Kitchen. I believe it is arguable that ATK is really just a spin off of the Alton Brown style of educational cooking television.

More people in the US have learned more about cooking from Alton, Julia, and the folks at America's Test Kitchen than all the other fancy chefs ever named on this board combined.

>>4281289

I have to say, Sceak, quoting Wikpedia is the most worthwhile thing I've ever seen you do.

Nonetheless, I feel like everybody is already aware of the fact that Alton Brown is not a cook/chef, and went to culinary school for the sole purpose of creating a show he was basically in charge of for over a decade, and which is both well researched and filmed, especially considering the budget.

What Good Eats gives you is basic principles, history, general food knowledge you really can't find anywhere else on TV, innovative uses of kitchen tools/techniques, and also a number of basic recipes, which are there solely for the purpose of demonstrating the general principles he outlined in the beginning of each episode.

Yeah, he's not a real chef (let alone cook), but he clearly loves food, and has a good team behind him figuring out good ways to cook for people who aren't professional chefs (and I've met a few professional chefs who have learned from his show).

What I really want to know is, how the fuck have so many people here actually seen Good Eats, and nonetheless have such a low estimate of it? I mean, if you've seen this one particular TV cooking show, you must have seen others, right? Nobody, as far as I've seen, has actually given a better cooking show that is, or has ever been, on TV.

>The one exception that I can think of, which I've only recently started watching, is one of Heston Blumenthal's shows (In Search of Perfection).

>yeah, I'm American and don't have access to all the British cooking shows. But for the most part, they really aren't anything different than what we have in America.

>>4270464
Two words: dinosaur chicken.

>>4281332
>Two words: dinosaur chicken.

Google search "dinosaur chicken".

Nothing.

>care to try again?

>>4270525

I made this comment, didn't expect the thread to get ruined by faggots who seem to hate the guy.

He wanted to make a tv show about cooking and how to practice "good eats", he never claimed to be a 3 star michellin chef and most of you are overplaying his importance.

>>4281329

Maybe, but he, himself, is just a puppet. An actor. Somebody presenting a scenario and script. He was not really inspired by his grandmother, his scientific blabbering is not his own, he's just a stupid Hollywood actor.

>>4281331

Whatever. He's a fraud. A liar. Janeway doesn't look straight at the camera, knowing a billion people will hear her words and see her face, and say "I am the Captain of the U.S.S. Voyager."

William Shatner doesn't go around the world and conventions pretending he's an accomplished military man.

It's just so ... whatever. Alton Brown just died.

Farewell.

>>4281362

Shatner didn't really graduate from star fleet academy either.

Alton actually did graduate from culinary school.


And it hardly matters. Shatner and Alton have combined to teach more people more about space travel and cooking than any of the actual "real chefs" that people around here want to drag out as model TV personalities.

It turns out that people educated in both cinema and cooking can produce better cooking shows than people that just worked in xyz restaurant breaking down chickens and vegetables as sous chefs.

>>4281362
he isn't an actor, though.
He's a cinematographer.
He is legitimately interested in food, and was inspired about it. Just because he didn't become a professional chef doesn't mean he doesn't like food.
And do you seriously think that the stuff he talks about is "isn't his own" science? Are you asserting this should be original post-graduate work studies, and not simply do research? Because nothing he's ever talked about is so complicated that anyone with a library card couldn't learn it.

God, you are a great-A cunt.

>>4281368
Seriously.. if we are going to hate on someone.. can we just hate on this douche bag?

I'll take anything Alton serves me over anything this cock sucker could ever come up with.

>>4281362

I'm not sure why I'm still responding to you Sceak... Oh yeah, its because I'm drunk.

Guess what, I'm usually drunk when I post here, but I also typically get good feedback from my posts. Yeah, I post as anon, that is the entire point of the site (go find a shitty Canadian vegan board to get banned from). I know it's worth a shit claiming that I typically make decent posts (despite my alcoholism), but you do nothing but shit post.

I would like to say that you are somewhat worthwhile here, insofar as you bump threads (that aren't fast food related) on a board that is slow as fuck to begin with. However, every time you show up a thread goes to shit and tends to 404.

Once again, I'm not sure why I (or anyone else) is actually responding to you, but fuck off or actually do something other than shit post (I would say "troll", but you actually seam legitimately stupid, and not capable of that level of internet).

>>4281385
And thus, it is determined that even a random drunken asshole is a better poster than sceak.

>>4281368

I'm not dissing the show. Good Eats remains, in my book, a great video course/encyclopædia on food from an American perspective.

I do not agree with how it was created, though, I do not like who created it, and where he came from.

I'm a bit shaken by all this, it's like learning Santa doesn't really exist for me, but ... I think I just might take a dentist appointment.

>>4281395

You're a fucking moron.

>Good Eats remains, in my book, a great video course/encyclopædia on food from an American perspective.

Good Eats is the brain child of Alton Brown.

>I do not agree with how it was created, though, I do not like who created it, and where he came from.

If you think it is a good show, then you like how it was created. End of story. If you don't like Alton for making a TV show when he came from a cinema background... then you need to ask yourself... why do you like all the other "real" chefs out there that are making TV shows, when they don't have a cinema background?

At least Alton went to school for both. Most TV chefs just worked in some dingy back alley kitchen in their teens and then had family connections to get them in front of some cameras.

>>4281395
>I do not like who created it, and where he came from.

So a guy makes a great show that teaches people how to cook that he writes and directs himself but you decide to hate him because of his background?

No one give a fuck how you decide to respect others, people should be respected on their own merits, and alton has done enough.

>>4281430

Annuit coeptis, bitch.

>>4281462

Alton Brown is a puppet. He might have had the idea, the picture in his head, the vision. Sure. Granted. Ever since, though, he's been but a puppet reading a script.

He has zero merit. Because he went to school to get into character and hasn't managed to snap out of it doesn't make him a Food God.

Rachel Ray > Alton Brown < Someone working at Burger King.

Fuck Alton Brown. If I ever see him, I'm taking a swing at him. No homo.

>>4281554
If I met you I would rape you. Like, just right there in the street. No one would help you. They know who you are and what you do.

>>4281592

I agree with this post entirely.

>pic related

If this is not you, Sceak, let us know (or let all of /ck/ think you really look this stupid).

>>4281622

I posted this one on /hm/ yesterday, just before the thread got deleted.

That one was like, last late spring/early summer. This one is a week or two ago.

Sage for off-topic.

>>4281622
>>4281635

Egads, who is responsible for thawing this Neanderthal?

>>4281635
I have changed my mind. I don't know what made your nipples look like that, but whatever it is I do not want it on my dick.

I will instead rape you with your dick, which I will take with me when I leave and bury in a vacant lot in Atlantic City.

>>4281622
>>4281635
>Sage for off-topic.

As if this hasn't turned into a "Sceak is not only a shit poster, but also an ugly motherfucker" thread...

>>4281670
>I will instead rape you with your dick, which I will take with me when I leave and bury in a vacant lot in Atlantic City.

Redeem this thread and post pics of the cutlery you will use to take of Sceak's dick.

>>4281670

I'm not sure either, but I hope it'll go away as I lean up.

>>4281673
>the cutlery you will use to take of

*the cutlery you will use to take off

>>4281674
what timezone are you in? when do you usually go to bed?

>>4281680

EDT. 5:00AM on weekdays. Why?

I already posted my phone number and my e-mail, why are you trying to get me banned?

>>4281686

Hey Sceak, wanna drive down to Rhode Island and suck me off?

It will pretty much be a vegan experience, but will nonetheless help with your iron deficiency.

>>4281698

No car, no passport.

If you wanna text 5147560885.

>>4281686
just wanting to know when you finally go to sleep and stop replying to every fucking thread.

>>4281712

Well I'm happy to know I'm not the only one who F5s this board.