/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Saving money is the number one goal, not nutrition or health. Hell, last time I checked, they let fat kids sit out of gym.

appetizing or not, that isn't a meal with nutrition in mind

>nutrition
>number one goal

Most of their food is processed food, are you serious

>>4136781
That's because gym classes are complete shit anyways. Last I was in school, you took tests on the rules of fucking basketball and whatever sport we were playing and got graded on it. The teachers are incapable of teaching it to people who don't know how to play, so you have people just wandering around who don't know what to do

Then you have stalls without doors and a coach with a macho attitude and I'm not surprised the meek kids stay the fuck out.

>>4136786
Grading in gym class is fucking retarded anyway.

>>4136787
Its usually pass/fail
If you dont participate or at least attempt to,you fail. It's not like you get a d- for being a terrible free thrower.

>>4136794
It depends on the school, some have timed laps and other stuff and grades based on achievements.

>>4136801
I got an A for showing up every day, drunk or not. Best floor hockey days ever.

That doesn't look too disgusting?

>>4136869
In case you haven't noticed, OP is trolling.

>>4136786
>>4136794
>>4136801
That's what gym in the US is like? We had compulsory PE until year 11 where we were graded on 'units' which were each a specific sport, and in each of those we were graded on skills like throwing, hitting a ball, running, whatever. In year 11 we did a unit on basic anatomy too. In year 12 and 13, we had Physical Recreation, where you just turned up and the class voted to see what we would do for that period, be it skip rope, a game of soccer, or go for a walk around the block. All of that was compulsory. In addition, in years 11-13, there was also an optional PE class where you would actually earn credit for what you did.

>>4136794
>Implying you don't
No seriously I used to be there all the time and got a d, while people who show up two times a year get As because they played a good football match.
Now I just stay the fuck out of gym class, it's fucking useless anyway, I never broke into sweat once.

>>4136944
>Now I just stay the fuck out of gym class, it's fucking useless anyway, I never broke into sweat once
And this is why you're weak. You're obviously still a child, so enjoy it while you can.

>>4136955
>weak
I do sports outside of school, not too often but still.
Would you like to tell me more about what valuable lessons you took away from gym class?

In my elementary school all our food came from giant cans. Veggies, fruit, pasta. The only days I enjoyed were pizza wednesday (local pizzeria) and fish fridays (catholic school). It became a big deal when they started offering cans of Hawaiian Punch. We never had anything to drink besides milk, water or juice. Pop was not allowed.

I threw up the canned mostacioli in 6th grade. I'm 29 now and still can't stomach the smell of it.

>>4136772

>>4136883
It varies depending on where you are in the country. In NYS, we had a very similar system when I was in school where gym was taught in "units." The problem, though, is that both the students are lazy and the physical education program is underfunded. For example, we used to have an adventure unit, for example, where we made use of all the rock walls, climbing ropes, et cetera through the gyms. The year before I entered high school, the one teacher left with the training for that unit retired. It's been something like 5 years and they still haven't trained any of the four PE coaches there.

The worst part is, our summer school PE system is, by all accounts, significantly better than the actual class.

The American PE system is shitty for many, many reasons. The "why"s just depend on what part of the country you're in.

If there's one thing I miss, it's school food.

Seriously. My first high school had an awesome dietetic menu that I never found anywhere else in the other high schools I've been to (about 6 of them).

All the other schools had pizza and fries and disgusting shit like that every single day. It was revolting.

It doesn't help that everyone utterly ignores the psychological aspects of food, of having a meal that appeals in taste and texture.

I'd say "severely underestimates," but really, it's UTTERLY ignored. No one gives a damn about the mental factor of food today, at all.

Everyone is obsessed over the chemical components of food, turning it from an enjoyable experience into a high school chemistry class.

Sickening, really. Why is the focus on what to avoid or what to have in your food? Why isn't the focus on physical activity, which is what you need to stay healthy more than anything else? Why such ignorance towards the mental benefits of enjoyable meals?

The last year of high school I didn't have to put up with shitty food because I took classes at a local college and wouldn't be at the school for the rest of the day after 10:20am.

Food was just as shitty as ever though. We had two lines in the lunchroom and one was for fake pizza/grilled cheese and the other was for some sort of speciality food served for that day. None of it was ever healthy, our school had a low budget plus it was ghetto. We did have a salad bar, but it was mostly a teacher thing as it cost students extra money to eat from there, I think a whole extra $2.00. One year they got rid of shoestring fries and replaced them with "baked" crinkle cut fries or baked tater tots. Everyone knew it was a joke though, it didn't make our lunches any more satisfying or healthy.

>>4136786
>tests on sport rules

That is fucking sad. Like you said, nobody fucking explains it. It took a while before I learned some shit and I was the guy who fucking explained it to the fat kids because nobody gave a shit about them.

Also fat kids stay fat, this doesn't do a damn thing. If you need your 30 minutes of exercise a day, this is good because you get to do it during school. There was this black kid who exerted the fuck out of himself (he was also an obnoxious pile of shit going "YEAH BABY YEAH YEAH YEAH") and would come back to the locker room sweating more than anyone else.

Then again, with dem nigga muscles, he probably didn't need that class

Why the fuck is it mandatory? Just give it to the fat kids only

>>4137237
>says he misses "school food"
>goes to 7 schools
>only likes the food at one of them

You're a fucking moron.

Gym class grading is entirely based on attitude. I was scrawny and unathletic as fuck no matter what we played in High School, but I still tried and had a positive attitude because playing games was a nice break from sitting in a classroom for 5 hours.

I always got A's even though I was one of the worst kids out there.

If fat kids really want to lose weight they need to take a class like Strength & Conditioning. If they don't, forcing them to take PE is stupid.

I miss school food. I'd often see kids, especially twig-thin young girls taking portions that amounted essentially to one potato or crisp bread slice, and the tiniest bit of sauce, and that used to irritate me to hell and back as kids. You don't grow if you don't eat, and here you are, provided with tax money with meals that have everything you need to that actually tastes fairly good, and you pass on it all because the star on the new TV show was the daughter of Ally McBeal and Skeletor and you need to look just like her. AND THEN THEY GO AND EAT CANDY BARS AFTER LUNCH.

Still, the food was good. My favourite was probably weenie stroganoff or meatballs, mash and gravy. And pasta casseroles were always big hits. And baked sausage and mash, and the pre-Christmas dinners with the whole set of ham and turkey and potato, turnip and carrot pudding, and so on...

Of course, not being 'murrikan, I was pretty privileged. Public schooling all the way from the crib to through university.

>>4137513
suomi, what are those patties on that plate?

>>4137521
Fish steaks. Imagine salisbury steak but from fish instead. Accompanied by sourcream and dill sauce. Delicious.

>>4137526
is that really what finnish school lunches look like? The one in the OP looks identical to the poop they've served at public and charter schools here in America

Ugh America

Now that I'm an adult I can easily ignore how pathetic this is, but sweet motherfucker.

Oh, and then I fucking hear on the news about some 9 year old girl complaining about nutrition or some mommy blogger. You know what that does? Fucking nothing. The very most, we add more canned corn to your food and maybe a bread roll.

The fact that appetizing food is a luxury is saddening. I can cook better food for such a cheap price. Tax money goes towards this and then kids still pay money for their food? That also confused the hell out of me. Maybe if we actually took a minute and think, we could whip up some good food. It's not that hard to be nutritious when you're not using processed shit. It's pretty hard to make your food taste like shit if you're cooking food correctly

>>4137513
that can't be your fucking school lunch
I'm going to cry

>>4136772
All I see in that meal is straight up carbs and fat.

Pizza - Carbs and fat
Cookies - Carbs and fat
OJ - Carbs
Chocolate milk - Carbs and fat
Corn - Carbs and fat

Why the fuck is nothing green on that plate? Why isn't any protein served? Holy fucking shit.
Drop the corn for peas. Eliminate OJ for water. Give them white milk. Switch pizza for anything else that has meat.

>>4137554
Sorry, fucked up there. Corn shouldn't say 'and fat'

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/09/28/161941282/some-grumble-about-change-as-school-lunches-get-leaner-and-greener

>>4137554
>peas
Canned peas
>water
Use the drinking fountain
>white milk
They offer some
>anything else that has meat
Here's some corn dogs

>>4137565
I wonder if any of that means more appetizing food. I know Americans don't care about taste, but other countries can do both nutrition and edibility.

pic is just fuck. One school is serving food like this? Everyone should be serving food like this. This is hardly a representation of what I'm seeing in the school I'm working in. Healthier food just means more canned shit and bread rolls.

I guess it's like eating a HotPocket and a Lean Cuisine at the same time. You'll feel like a fucking fat pleb

>>4137534
I'm sure that the school cafeteria industry subsidizes the processed food industry. That and a lot of people are too lazy to cook.

>>4137266

to an extent I agree
a badly balanced meal that a child actually eats is better nutrition than one they forgo altogether.

It should be about ensuring that a child will get good nutrition on a longer scale through an actual variety of edible food.

the meals are just made to sound good on paper, but really they're pig disgusting and in only by some retarded standard are they 'nutritious'

Less effort and money, who gives a shit about what the kids eat.

>>4137580
Our school served chicken sometimes but it always tasted incredibly shitty. I don't know what the hell they do to it.

Also criticizing that meal while I can:

The presentation is clearly to look good for npr.

A whole pear? N-not canned or anything, but a whole pear? That already tops all the schools I went to.

Broccoli in a cup? I don't get it. The other thing looks like mixed fruit.

Those potatos look OK, but cooked that well. Could they at least make the carrots/green beans look anything more like it didn't just come out of a can?

That chicken has no skin on it. Also I wonder why seasoning is so taboo, that's pretty damn plain.

That is a pathetic excuse for a salad. Lettuce and a little tomato on top.


It's like their idea of nutrition came out of a kids show. "Apples and oranges and salads are healthy kids"

4/10 for trying. I can only imagine how shitty that chicken tastes though.

>>4137266
Because parents are stupid as all hell. Anything that tastes good is bad apparently. It's no wonder the only thing kids eat is the junk food. It's hard to make a shitty pizza or burger or fries and it's cheap as hell.

>>4137586
At the heart of the problem, we have the warped competition standards, and kitchen staff who have no say at the whole process, I think. There would always be the option to fill the kitchens with motivated mexicats, give them a monthly budget, have extra mexicats handle sourcing raw materials from wherever the best deals are individually every day or week, and then have staff members evaluate their rate of success every day. Then do a cross comparison with other school kitchens. And finally, let the mexicats share a capped percentage of what's left over the budget. Presto, motivated and capable service producers.

>>4137608
>That chicken has no skin on it. Also I wonder why seasoning is so taboo, that's pretty damn plain.

This. I can't believe how fucking ridiculously fearful schools are of any type of seasoning. I mean jesus christ, it's in the milligrams. My school didn't even carry salt or pepper

>>4136955

Nobody I fucking know took anything out of gym class to where it actually made any sore of difference on their wellbeing.

>still a child

At least find another post to practice your condescension skills, that was just random as hell. Is this the new thing, calling people children? you so adult

> have gym all throughout schooling at least 3x a week
> gym is every day in highschool
> 3 days if your chosen activity (3 teachers, 4quarters, so 12 different options in all including archery and roller blading)
> the other two days were fitness days where we spent three minutes rotating at stations doing running, jump rope, sit ups, push ups, and stair stepping until class was over
> was still really fat, never skipped

I went to public school, but it was a good one in a predominately white town that made good money from multiple lakes around, plus our teachers some of the lowest paid in the state. So not all public schools were bad.

Who the fuck even decided to pair-up Pizza and Corn? That's disgusting. Nobody eats those two things together.

I'm trying to remember the details of my school lunches, but I appear to have blocked out the trauma.

>>4137554
>OJ/milk
>carbs
>2003

How's Atkins going?

>>4137531
Yup. Admittedly, that's a very tidy plateful. The kids assemble their meals from a buffet line, and as such when observation fails some like to ignore the salad, or overload their plates, or just downright go LOLOLOL I'M TAKING 300 SAUSAGES ON ONE PLATE AND DROWN IT IN MUSTARD YO. But kids will be kids.

I actually noticed that the schools post their menus online ahead of time, too. Today's meal at the local schools would have been... salisbury steak, mash, peas, shredded bok choy and cucumber cubes, or a secondary option of cheesy vegetable steak for the salisbury steak. Not bad. Couldn't find a picture though.

That rectangular school pizza was fucking delicious.

>>4137633
> could take as much as they wanted of anything

So how did the school have enough? I think pretty much everything fed to me at lunch was doled out by hand so portions were controlled. And if you were able to take 4 scoops of corn or something the lady ringing up your lunch would see and you'd get into trouble.

>>4136996
Teeeeeen giiirl squaaad

>>4136772

>nutrition's the number one goal
>tray with chocolate milk, jell-o, cookies, and pizza

Texas master race reporting. What kind of backwards, third world schools did you people go to? We had sandwiches and salads available every day. Multiple varieties. Chef salad, caesar, multiple dressings with light options, etc. We also had pizza (normal pizza that didn't taste like soggy cardboard) in addition to the daily lunch option: chicken nuggets, enchiladas, etc.

They'd also ladle chili into a small bag of Fritos (yes, directly into the bag) and top it with cheese. I miss school food.

Pic related: they'd cut the side open, not the center like in the pic.

>>4137761
>TFW all northern school food sucks

I lived in north carolina for a while and the food was good, but not so here.

>>4136772
Grew up in San Diego and that is almost exactly what my lunch from elementary school through HS was like. Bad memories

>>4137683
Only when nobody was looking. The portioning is looked after in elementary levels - at least half of the plate had to be salad or so, and while sauces or stews were generally by "as much as you want" principle, "meatier" things such as the fish steaks, salisbury steaks, sausages and the like were rationed. Also, cafeteria ladies paid attention to how physically big the person in question was. Fatties get the average dose, but plainly physically big kids get a bit more, especially the athletes. Even if that wasn't really "by the guidelines"-practice.

Later on, in highschool, it was generally "do as you please as long as you don't act like a retard".

>>4137761
Oh, I forgot to mention that they also had cans of Hawaiian Punch in the lunch line (in addition to the typical vending machines). I fucking love Hawaiian Punch.

>>4137761

It's called a, walking taco. :)

School lunches were so much different, my sister claims of having fucking Taco Salad with bowls made out of taco shells, those little bags that had a sort of shaved iced with fruit flavoring, fried chicken, frito pie, (MADE IN THE FUCKING BAG OLD SCHOOL STYLE) and real mash potatoes with white gravy, and she was only in school 8 years ago.

My senior year of high school, which was about 3 years ago, we had no meat other than fish or chicken, and we only had fish during lint or whenever Catholics can't eat meat on fridays.

All potatoes were sweet potatoes, always in the form of fries.

Instead of ketchup, we had a sort of cheap tomato paste which was gritty and taste like shit.

We never had chicken nuggets.

Spaghetti had no meat, and the sauce was the tomato paste.

9/10 of the baked chicken was white meat and obviously extremely dry, and the horrible taste of the tomato paste was not worth trying to moisten the chicken.

The only time we had good food was the last week of school, in which the lunch ladies and the principal pretty much went wild and grilled us burgers and smoked sausages outside the cafeteria using a lot of the schools money.

Shit was cash.

>>4137885
If you are in the US, you can thank budget cuts and government regulation for the decline in quality.

My younger brother, who is a Jr in high school, says the current lunches are absolutely fucking shit, while they used to be palateble.

They aren't any healthier either as everyone would rather bring their own packed lunch anyway.

All the kids who do purchase school lunch are required to take essentially everything, even the shit they wont eat, such as the stale sweet potato fries, so a bunch of food is going to waste as well.

School coaches are telling their athletes to bring their own lunches as well, as they new lunch program is so low in carbs that 2 basketball players and a swimmer actually passed out during after school practice.

>>4137761
>school gets subsidies from brand name food products
>doesn't understand why this school can provide substantially better food
Let me guess, you also had vending machines and product advertising in the school cafeterias, didn't you? Schools get money for letting companies advertise their products like that, and I imagine a shitton more if they seriously include a bag of Fritos as the main course of a lunch.
Northern schools, especially rural ones, tend not to do this. And many schools up north, particularly in urban and rural areas (not so much the suburbs) are suffering budget cuts and thus food nutrition are one of the things that suffers.

>>4137931
Hey, it's that guy that's obsessed with advertising. Having a good day today?

>>4137947
I have no idea what you're talking about and I think it's funny how you're trying to derail the subject.
But in any event
>implying what I just said isn't true

Its just whether the school is a part of the NSLP or not.

Schools under the program do not even get to choose what to serve based on popularity.

>>4137950
Except you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

Region/location makes no fucking difference. Its just whether the school is under a government regulatory commission or not.

And I see nothing wrong with schools cutting deals with add companies, less wasted tax dollars.

>>4137958
Region and location makes all the difference.
You're telling me if one state has an education budget cut while another states doesn't, that that doesn't make a difference?
You're telling me if one school district allows for brand name product subsidies while the other district doesn't, that it doesn't make a difference?

What's wrong with you?

>>4136786
>tests on the rules of fucking basketball and whatever sport we were playing
Mine's just had us doing something physical, like dodgeball days, or running a mile, or basketball, or four square etc.


I still don't even know how american football works, I literally go on /sp/, look at some names on there, and mention them and let the other guys talk.

>>4137959
So basically, you're telling me that schools in Texas are superior because we have enough common sense to cut deals with large companies interested in advertising their products to their target audience?

Texas really is the greatest state in America.

it was all about taco bar wednesday for me

just picture a tray piled to the sky with taco related fixin's

ohh god today is wednesday

muh tacos!

>>4137984
>are you telling me that schools in Texas are superior?
No you dolt, but it's no surprise if they have extra money and are providing you with brand name food goodies at lunch if they're signing on to company contracts.

Stop trolling. And "government regulatory commission" doesn't mean shit unless you're referring to a specific agency. You sure you know what you're talking about?

its nutritious if the entree is a vegetable (ie: pizza)

>>4137959
>implying what I said has anything to do with individual districts
>You're telling me if one state has an education budget cut while another states doesn't, that that doesn't make a difference?
>You're telling me if one school district allows for brand name product subsidies while the other district doesn't, that it doesn't make a difference?

You were babbling on like a retard about "northern" schools, as if that somehow made a difference.


>>Its just whether the school is under a government regulatory commission or not.

This is the key.

It wont matter how much income the school itself has, all the lunches are CONTROLLED BY THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT.

SCHOOLS DO NOT GET TO CHOSE WHAT THEY SERVE IF THEY ARE UNDER THE NSLP.

>>4137989
>referring to a specific agency

http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/lunch/aboutlunch/NSLPFactSheet.pdf

now fuck off.

>>4136772
Listen OP, the food is shit, and you're right, kids would bring lunch or eat Cheetos from the vending machines, my middle school had an ala carte, and in my high school, I ate fast food nearby.

But it's free or dirt cheap to those on a low income, and for several kids, that really is their food to live on, instead of having that extra pocket change and the choice to waste it on half a bag of Doritos and being hungry.

>>4137991
>as if northern schools make a difference
Oh okay, because all northern and southern schools are the same, huh?

>>4137994
And thanks for bringing this up. This only is a control for what the school needs to provide, this has no mandatory regulations for company brand name contracts within school districts. This is a rule is separate and only set up by local districts and some states.

Now you can kindly fuck off.

>>4137989
But you've stated multiple times that we actually have money to feed our students and haven't been burdened with budget cuts because of our superior financial decisions. Are you drunk?

>>4138009
...are you drunk? 2/10 Got me to respond.

>>4137761
We had lunches like this in my high school, too, we had a salad bar, baggie line, school lunch line, pizza line, and gourmet line.

That was because I went to a technical high school that had a culinary program.

Who cares about the kids, vote for more school funding so that every high school become technical schools

>>4138017
>Schools get money for letting companies advertise their products like that, and I imagine a shitton more if they seriously include a bag of Fritos as the main course of a lunch.
>Northern schools, especially rural ones, tend not to do this. And many schools up north, particularly in urban and rural areas (not so much the suburbs) are suffering budget cuts

You made a pretty good argument for how much better Texas schools are here. Are you sure you're in a clear state of mind right now?

>>4138043
>setting up a good argument for
>implying implies
yawn.jpg

Yeah and I could also say that you having Fritos for lunch is setting up a good argument for why there's a higher incidence of childhood obesity in Texas too, but that's multifaceted and twisted logic, innit?

>>4138053

Not that Anon. You're an idiot; stop posting.

>>4138064
Lolk samefag. No1curr but you.

>come up with a meal plan for 5 days/weeks
>different food every day
>make it relatively healthy, all made in the morning
>price it near the same scale as the old lunch
>present it to the principal, senior lunch lady, and school board

If they like it, good for you.

>>4138077
Another anon here. Indeed no one currs but you.

i am that anon

my biggest problem is that i care too much

>>4138091
>being this butthurt about an internet argument

>>4138100
>maybe if I don't properly punctuate my sentences nobody will notice my samefagging
/diff anon
Can you stop arguing now? We all know you're the same.

>>4138105
And you're paranoid too. I'm actually starting to feel bad for you at this point.

>>4138005
>And thanks for bringing this up. This only is a control for what the school needs to provide, this has no mandatory regulations for company brand name contracts within school districts.

If they are under the commission, they cant chose what to or not to include.

>This is a rule is separate and only set up by local districts and some states.
No shit, sherlock.

>>>Its just whether the school is under a government regulatory commission or not.
>>>SCHOOLS DO NOT GET TO CHOSE WHAT THEY SERVE IF THEY ARE UNDER THE NSLP.

Fucking READ.

2/10, I'm being trolled by a dumbass

>>4138142
You can calm down any time now.

Provide sources now and relax. You can't argue with reliable sources.

Back in 6th grade I went to a school in roswell. The lunches were provided by Pizza Hut or dominoes or something like that. It was pretty great.

>>4138168
Roswell NM?

All I remember is that the food in middle school and down was horrible. I always brought some snacks for myself to eat. In highschool it got a bit better, there was a few choices plus we even had some packaged icecream you can buy and a snack/drink vending machine with some pretty good juice in it and tasty snacks that I horded in my locker for whenever I wanted a snack between classes. Wasn't that bad in highschool.

>>4137984
Maybe it's a southern thing. We had multiple options when I was in middle and high school for hot lunches--2 lines which included the bullshit, non-nutritious but still very delicious pizza (regular pizza) and nearly Chik fi' A quality chicken sandwiches. Then there were the options for the salads and baked potatoes and then hot lunches with a few veggie options and a protein and bread-based carb. In elementary, it was specifially hot lunches with veggie/bread-carb/protein combo with milk to drink. I'm 27 though.. so things may have changed.

>>4138023
I'm all about technical schools. Give kids skill options.. not everyone is cut out for/can afford college.

>>4138169

Is that the one with the aliens or is it the other Roswell? It was the alien one.

>>4136772

Good old square cafeteria pizza. Hell, my friends and I used to call it box pizza since it was square and tasted like cardboard.. Good times.

>>4137534
>>Ugh America
Sorry your third world country doesn't feed its kids. Maybe if you bitch about it on 4chan you can serve them lintballs and toe fungus for lunch.

>>4138217
Realistically though, there isn't much point in serving my child the nutritional equivalent of belly button lint. It's literally just food in their tummy at that point. I mean the children aren't hungry, but they're not really getting what they need either. So it's nearly the equivalent of not getting to eat, minus the hunger.

>>4138228
> It's literally just food in their tummy at that point.

That's the point. As crappy as it may be, you're not gonna convince me that corn, bread, milk, some kinda fruit and some bread thing with cheese or beans or something is the equivalent of eating nothing.

>>4138256
You're correct--but I will tell you that serving them cardboard pizza is not going to bring anything to the table but empty calories.

Say, do 'murrikan teachers dine in the cafeteria, on the same stuff the students are expected to eat?

Where I'm from, it was at the very least expected, if not mandatory, as teachers were expected to also keep an eye on their class to ensure that they behaved. Other than that, though, most teachers also ate the same stuff as the kids without the slightest of a problem.

>>4138342
No, Murrka has holy grounds installed in every school called the Teacher's Lounge, where legends and myths come from and no kid can go, with few of them making the journey and telling the rest of the kids of their venture.

So, Murrican Public School Attendant here.

I have to say, most of the food isn't terrible. The Pizza in OP's picture is actually much better than the "gourmet" stuff they have every day. The "gourmet" pizza pretty much falls apart as you pick it up and the cheese has no flavor.

What really pisses me off though is that they outsourced their Milk to some shitty off-name brand, and they no longer carry desserts. They used to have Chocolate Chip Cookies that were god-tier, but then they changed to Oatmeal Chocolate Chip (still pretty good) and then Oatmeal Raisin. Shit tier. We also used to have Rice Krispies Treats and a fully loaded Ice Cream Chest. Then they got rid of it all together. Oddly enough, no one seems to have noticed.

I think the school board is wasting too much money on trying to give us "Alternative Choices" (we now have a Salad Bar, Sandwhich Bar, and an A La Carte line where you get the expensive, good food in addition to the Regular Line. Poor shits like myself can't afford it and the Free Lunch Program doesn't cover it.)

>>4137615

The problem is that schools are by extension government jobs, and government jobs are first and formost solely about job security. Look at tenure and teachers.

Now you have idiots who are going full retarded the other way and are looking for a way to cut every last dollar out of the program.

>>4138359
Oh, we have those too. Mysterious places of which only few things are known, such as the occasional loud swearing emanating from within, as well as the perpetual smell of bad coffee.

The teachers did eat in the cafeteria though. And ignored the portion size limits too, on the days there were such. What a bunch of jerks.

>>4138368
I see this "government = inefficiency" argument being thrown around whenever 'murkan education system's faults are discussed, but... isn't it really the constant arguing and shitty politically motivated compromises that make it shit, not the gubmint oversight?

>>4138391
it comes from people taking econ 101, only halfway paying attention, and never bothering to do some research for themselves. a lot of "classical" economics argues that markets operate efficiently (according to a fairly abstract definition of efficiency) in the absence of transactions costs, subsidies, and taxes, and when information is relatively costless. that lessons is consistently misapplied to all sorts of scenarios including this one

>>4138367
Bro I went through school like, 20 years ago and it was still the same square pizza with the odd wrinkles in it.

I had free lunches because poorfag and I can thank the gov't for buying most of my super-swole physique. I think it's the bull sperm or beef hormones or something? Anyways, I thought it was fine.

I can't complain. I sneered at anybody who didn't like the school lunches.

>>4138406
Did you guys have Nacho Days?
It's fucking crazy during them. It's practically the only day when most people don't bring bagged lunches

>>4138367
>say, most of the food isn't terrible. The Pizza in OP's picture is actually much better than the "gourmet" stuff they have every day. The "gourmet" pizza pretty much falls apart as you pick it up and the cheese has no flavor.
>What really pisses me off though is that they outsourced their Milk to some shitty off-name brand, and they no longer carry desserts. They used to have Chocolate Chip Cookies that were god-tier, but then they changed to Oatmeal Chocolate Chip (still pretty good) and then Oatmeal Raisin. Shit tier. We also used to have Rice Krispies Treats and a fully loaded Ic
>>4137761


Again Americans showing they have no sense of nutrition, and no taste in food.

>>4136772

No wonder our kids are getting fatter.

Back in my day we didn't those two extra sides. It would have been corn (or fries or tots), the pizza, and milk. Anything else you paid for separately.

>that square pizza thing...brings back memories.

the new obama standards at the school here is horrid, the food is more disgusting than ever and students are not allowed to have a dessert unless they get a vegetable so at the end of the day it's literally hundreds of dollars of uneaten vegetables being thrown away. students are also not allowed to use their lunch card unless they get a "balanced" meal otherwise it counts against their snack points.

so say they just want nuggets? well they need to take a fruit, vegetable, and milk they don't want too.

>>4138422
We don't even have vending machines here. The only ones we DO have are filled with SmartWater.

I don't know what the fuck is going on in Texas, seeing as I'm a Florida Betarace

>>4138422
Once again, foreigners stupidly form a consensus based on the tastes of the American garbage that frequent this board.

I don't even know why I bothered to type this, you're pretty much irrelevant to us.

>>4137266

Frankly that doesn't make any fucking sense.

The psychological aspect of food is nothing more than food that is bad for you in high quantities. A steak can be tasty as fuck, but if I eat one everyday it's probably not the most healthy thing. Add in anything that is high in fat or sugar....those are things that taste good.

I can appreciate good food, but this is school food...it needs to be enough to fuel the kids and give them some balance in their diet.
>What's pictured is shit, I know cause that's what they fed me.

>>4138428
>ve vending machines here. The only ones we DO have are filled with SmartWater.


And that is good how? How do you suppose tap water compares to "Smartwater". Is it that you like overpriced, mass marketed shit?

Why wouldn't you just install better filters in your drinking fountains?

>>4138426
That sounds like one ass-backwards system. Like I said, we don't even have dessert. The closest things we do have are the "Things That Almost Resemble Fruit Suspended In Sugared and Acidized Liquid

>>4138438
Hey man, I'm just a student. I don't have control over it. I can't even buy it since I'm too poor to even pay for my own lunch. They're too busy wasting our tax dollars building new school buildings, rearranging the curriculum, and buying expensive textbooks and electronic toys to care much about the small things.

>>4138426
Why don't you just learn how to properly cook vegetables then? Is it that damn complicated?

Or is it that American's taste buds are all broken, they can't appreciate the flavor of good vegetables.

I sure as shit miss the chicken patties and pudding from high school man...

>>4138445
Are you really this stupid?

>>4138442
*building new school buildings every few years
I swear at least 5 schools are under active renovation as of now.

>>4136883
As an Amerifag, I'm jelly......in more ways than one thanks to school food and school PE

>>4137761
That looks really fucking good. My grocery store is open for another hour and a half, I think I might do this now.

>>4138451
>the food is more disgusting than ever

And where is the issue with this?

Are you implying that chicken nuggets by themselves constitute a meal?


The mere fact that Obama implemented such a plan shows there is something fundamentally wrong with the way Americans eat/cook, regardless whether the plan works or not.

The point is you all either don't know how to eat properly, or cook properly, whether or not Obama implemented this plan, because it was suggested in the first place.

>>4137761
>Texas #15 for obesity nationwide

Big surprise. Seriously, why would people think feeding kids junk food for a meal everyday makes sense?

>>4138470
You don't eat any better in foreign schools, you're just focusing on America because we're the most popular subject on this board. It boarders on obsession, actually. I'm not even that other Anon that you're arguing with, because like most Americans, I couldn't care less what you think.

>>4138470
school lunches must cost less than $2, they are not allowed to cost more
all lunches must be low sodium
all vegetables need to be boiled

have fun making that taste good to kids

>>4138472
Only #15? I figured we did better than that. That delicious jealousy. I love it.

>>4138485
Those are unrealistic expectations. A product I once purchased is
Health Valley Organic Chocolate Multigrain Toaster Tart

Do you see something here? That means there is fundamentally something flawed about the way Americans (generalizing, yes) think.

You are trying to say there is something even more fundamentally wrong with the system.

>>4138482
And why is ignorance a good thing again? You can either try to agree, disagree, or ignore a opinion, and at least the first two options give you a chance to see a different perspective, whether its correct, or incorrect is irrelevant.

Are you all so stupid as to ignore other opinions, which might (i'm not claiming to have the solution to your country's problem) be correct, or at least give you insight from a different perspective?


I am a American by the way. Way to make a faulty assumption.

>>4138482
>You don't eat any better in foreign schools
Do you seriously believe that?

>>4138498
I had a feeling that you were an American. It's really no secret that most of the anti-American trolling on this board is posted by other Americans. It's actually pretty pathetic. I think our lack of a real culture is the reason you get bored enough bother with this silly crap.

Salads and decent quality produce is on its way to becoming mainstream (salads have always been available in schools that aren't in a slum) so there's really nothing to talk about anymore, but I'm sure you're bored enough to sit there and kick a dead horse... unfortunately.

>>4138506
Of course, because it's a fact.

>>4138514
Do you seriously dismiss everything you disagree with as trolling?

Its not about salad and decent quality produce. Its about actually preparing it properly.

I also only told you half the story, I am Chinese American, I have culture.

ITT: One aspie from Texas can't control his autist level and is whining about everything and anyone that disagrees with his opinions.
What a sad fucker.

>>4138532
Yeah, the Americans here like to pretend to be Asian too, so I figured that was coming. They have to feed hundreds of students a day, how do you suggest they cook the food, my trolling white, American friend? Ovens and steamers are the most efficient way to cook food.

>>4138520
Spoken like a true American.

>>4138545
Arguing a point is being Autistic now? You need to walk away from the computer and get some fresh air, 4chan is starting to effect how you perceive discussion.

>>4138561
Ever stop to think that more than two people disagree with you? You're arguing in a school lunch thread dude, breathe for a second and let some oxygen get to your brain.

>>4138554
Americans are good at stating facts, I agree.

>>4138553
Its not unexpected you would throw red herrings.

Whether I am American or not dosent matter, the point is my argument is equally valid.

Why bother acknowledging I am American in the first place? Is it because you thought you could win this argument?

And what difference does it make what culture I come from?

You admit you don't have any taste in food?
You admit you dislike the flavor of steamed/roasted vegetables? Is it really THAT hard to properly roast/steam vegetables?

It's your choice here, either you admit you have no taste in food, or you admit that Americans don't know how to cook, or both.

Steamed/Roasted vegetables taste fine when done properly, and if you argue you can't put resources to properly cook, it just goes back to the "Health Valley Organic Chocolate Multigrain Toaster Tart".

>School budget is tied to property tax revenue
>You live in a blighted pit

Enjoy your square pizza kids! Remember, ketchup is a vegetable.

>>4138583
The congress bill states that "tomato sauce is a serving of vegetables." Not that ketchup is a vegetable. Do you even do your own independent research, and not just toss around misphrased news headlines?

Also, in the right quantity (1 slice of pizza, perhaps), with the a decent quality tomato sauce, it very much could qualify as a serving of vegetables (doubtful).

>>4138577
You are really kicking that horse. What are you going on about at this point? The food is steadily getting healthier in schools. The food is baked/steamed and you agree that that's perfectly acceptable. A couple people say they saw people throwing away vegetables so now all of America hates vegetables and healthier food options? You're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Do you just want to have the last word? Are you really that childish?

People! We have to work together: in order to fix the system!

>>4138623
I'm saying that unless we teach Americans to enjoy vegetables, and we have schools properly cook them, it dose not matter how healthy the food is, these are fundamental and much larger problems.

>>4138633
Some Americans like certain vegetables and others don't. Google "personal preference." Unless you've personally tasted the food, you have no idea if it's cooked properly or not. Do you read Yelp reviews and immediately assume a restaurant is bad because a reviewer said so?

>>4138648

Motherfucking told.

>>4138625
it is on my bucket list to punch him right in his fat face, I want to feel it squish under my fist and watch it swell up as he falls on the ground with a bloody nose. I will put all of my frustration and broken dreams into that punch.

>>4138698
so say we all

>>4138433
I know why you bothered to type it. It's because you are upset at being ridiculed, especially so when you know the points of ridicule to be truthful.

But don't mind the ridicule - you are relevant to us! Without you, we wouldn't know how badly things could be.

>>4138820

This is hilarious, you lost that other argument and now you're back to start another one. Fuck, you Americans get bored.

In Australia we just had a lunch store. You could buy salad rolls, pies, nuggets, fruits, sandwiches, snacks, and whatever the days special was. The only food program we had was a free breakfast program for kids if they wanted it.
We also had access to the teachers microwave, so I'd bring last nights leftovers, or a thermos full of soup.

So glad I didn't grow up in 'Murikka. I think I would've starved.

>>4138853
naw bro, it's not the school food that makes our kids starve
it's our fucked up media

HS was actually fucking nice.

Panini,flat bread,Stromboli,a really good sub bar,bosco sticks,curly fries,ect.
Hell you could walk up town to a pizzeria and get genuine good pizza for 1 dollar a slice,and other food.

This was a hick town BTW

I'm pissed off that I did not take gym serious and use the weight room.

>>4137761
and this is why I thank my parents for providing me with a tasty, packed lunch everyday.

>>4138891
in my school they separated buyers and bringers to different sides of the room and I wanted to sit by the window with people I knew so I would buy every day even though it was terrible. food was half edible, but the portions were tiny. 4 nuggets, a scoop of corn, and a milk, if you wanted juice the carton was half the size of the milk one.

There was no cafeteria when I went to school. And I went to a school of ~3000 students.

We would have to pack our own lunches, organize potlucks, or walk to a nearby place during lunch time to get lunch. Also if you lived within 3KM of school you would have to walk, ride a bike, take the public transit, or carpool. 70% of the kids walked to school. We had maybe 6 school buses. Every year from grade 3 all the way to grade 12 we would have to take gym. There was no credit given, but it was mandatory. And for some it was the best time had in school. There was monthly fitness tests, and one group project every semester. Your group would choose a sport, give all the rules and regulations you can remember, do a demonstration of the sport, and answer questions, no researching, just off the top of your head stuff on 1 piece of paper. Every kid in our school knew all the rules and regulation for basketball, football, soccer, and baseball. Everyone. In grades 6,8,9, a 10 there was compulsory nutrition class. It wasn't super in depth, but everyone knew the difference between soluble and insoluble fiber, and you would have to memorize the recommended 2000 calorie daily diet along with the necessary vitamins and minerals.

Nowadays it's a fucking mess. Kids are obese, don't know how to play sports, texting in class, dropping out to be thugs or bums. What the fuck happened. Seriously.

i fucking cringe looking back at the food schools gave us when I was in that awful system. at my school we had the "normal" school lunch line which served a main course, a veggie or two, some fruit, a bread and chocolate milk. It was almost never healthy overall. The only people that used this line were the nerds and the hispanics on the foodstamp meal plan. The food tasted like absolute SHIT.

Then we had the "fast line". This line served strictly hamburgers, cheeseburgers, fried chicken strips, and fried chicken sandwiches. All were accompanied by a huge fucking serving of greasy over salted crinkle cut fries. You could get lunch here for I think about $3, this is where most kids in high school got their lunch.

Then we had the "snack line", which is where the kids with the money got their lunches. Hot pockets, frozen burritos, fries, chips, sweet snackie cakes, burgers, fried cheese, fried pickles, fried tacos, fried twinkies, you name it. The things in this line costed a little more and EVERYTHING there was extremely unhealthy and usually deep fried.

And then we had the soda machines, about 15 of them to choose from. Everyone bought a soda with their lunch, it was obligatory. I mean if you weren't eating a mountain of french fries, fried burritos and two mountain dews then you were either a fucking nerd or a heathen mexican on foodstamps. Everyone was fucking fat at school.

I didn't really have friends in elementary school and didn't really care to socialize with others. After lunch I would help the janitor clean the cafeteria. If kids left their food trays on the table I would sometimes eat their leftovers.

I did qualify for reduced lunch, but I didn't want to waste my parents money everyday. Told them to keep the money and I'll just eat the free lunch.

The free lunch was for kids who forgot their money/lunch bags. It was always 'peanut butter and jelly graham cracker sandwich and regular milk'. If I was lucky I would sometimes get leftover lunch delivered from a nearby middleschool.

>>4138941
Maybe the kids didn't want to hang out with you because you were the weirdo eating their left overs?

But in all honesty, you sound like a really sweet person. Helping the janitor. Reminds me of how genuine kids can be when they want to help out.

I remember in grade school only the poorest of the poor got the school lunch. Everyone else packed their lunch. I used to always use my charm and wit to get free hot fries from this kid who always packed hot friesand didn't have a lot of friends. I was actually a popular kid back then so I would sit at the cool table and eat my lunch then move over to sit next to hot fry kid to mooch. Damn I was an ass. I think he liked it though.

Then when I went to a private high school it was completely different. Almost everybody bought lunch in the cafeteria. The food was okay, but nothing special - definitely better than what was served at the public schools. I think everyone in public school who bought lunch were super poor and used "lunch tickets" aka free lunch paid for by the taxpayer.

>>4137796
Wow SDUSD system sucks. I was in the better part of the LAUSD system (around AHS, SMHS, and TCHS) and our lunches were pretty fucking good. They actually cooked things properly (pizza was actually fucking pizza not like OP's pic), etc. They enacted the "junk food" ban right after I graduated. Sucks for the new students there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovO18E-hgew

Don't know if any anons have seen/know this. I hate the French but damn they got it right on this one.

>>4136772
>>4136772
>>4136772

>Those little cheap rectangle pizzas

Where can I get those? I am 28 and I greatly desire this delicious substandard cattle-feed from my youth.

>>4139102

No clue, but I enjoyed putting ranch dressing on the pepperoni ones

The food is only going to get worse. Some schools are already banning peanut butter and other "strong allergy" foods. And then put restrictions on the kinds of food a kid can bring from home.

>>4139111
>restrictions of kinds of food a kid can bring from home.
What??

>>4139119

My brother in middle school has had chips/candy taken away from him at lunch. These were things my mom allowed him to bring in. The school claims that since they banned those foods from their vending machines, that means they are banned from the school. The also have bans on "sodas" and "energy drinks".

>>4139111

Dude, peanut butter was always banned at my school and that was back in the nineties. I used to bring it in anyway because the kid with the allergy was a douchebag and I wanted him to die.

>>4139123
That's terrible and fucking unnecessary

>>4139119
in australia that's already a reality. kids get detention for bringing peanut butter sandwiches to school because there's always one kid who's allergic. (at the very least i got a detention at my primary school the one time i brought one in, when i was four.)

>>4139125
>>4139130

I hate this kind of pandering to people bullshit. If the kid is so sensitive to peanuts that the simple presence of it will set the allergies off, he just needs to stay fucking home.

>>4139102
You and me both. Those things were fucking delicious, sometimes I'd get 2 or 3 slices if I had the money. Those were the fucking days.

I'll find out who supplies schools with food and see if there's any way to order non-bulk from them and report back.

>>4139130
I never got into strife for that. Weird. Nineties semi rural queensland primary schools just don't give a fuck.

I'll throw in my two cents I suppose

I remember the primary school food being mostly crappy, with Sausage rolls, pies, ice creams and iceblocks, all that type of shit. But they did do fresh sandwiches and rolls to order. I loved the shit out of my chicken and salad sandwich, but fuck the mayo. I remember I died a little when they stopped making those because they were too expensive and kids just didn't want to eat fresh food. Since my parents both worked early and late and didn't have enough time to raise me, and since I was only small with no sense of how to make shit, I had to eat at the canteen. I remember I got fat. Very fat, which sadly is something I am having to fix now. There was also a McDonalds day, where the school bought a fuckton of cheeseburgers and fries and sold it to us at an inflated price. In reality, it was genius. Then they served the leftovers to us cold for like, 20 cents less, so they made a huge profit. I remember high school being shitty too with the same issue, but this time, no fucking made to order sandwiches. I remember telling my mother to stop at the bakery in the morning so I can get something healthy made to order for me since it was on the way and it was nowhere near as bad as the shit food they served there. By the time I could make my own food, I was in the hospitality kitchen making my own food because I was in with the hospitality teacher and we always ate a lot of leftovers from functions. It was all healthy and well made by either the students or myself. Then I quit and became a music student, which pissed him off. I never got free lunch again, but I also made my own, so whatever. We had the pizza too. Although, instead of being that shape, they were lazy and made that shit out of bread rolls. They cut them in half, put sauce on them, cheese and whatever topping and baked it. It was fucking gross.

>>4139139
>>4139102
This

Americans are used to shitty mediocre food, why the fuck would they need to change?

I miss school dinners.

>Fast food option or traditional.
>Fast food option for plebs.
>Favourite 'traditional' meal often consisted of mince and dumplings with chips, and jam roly poly with custard for dessert.

Good times.

>>4139963
I wouldn't trade my school meals for anything, we have 3 free options: The normal, the vegetarian and the soup, and then there's the paid lunch which costs around 4 euros and usually is something great like a steak or something like that. All the meals include salads and bread too. Damn I'm going to miss the foods when I graduate.

The disgusting cunts going "square pizza was the shit i'd kill to eat them all day everyday now" is why our food is the same shit it is now
Nobody actually and seriously cares.

>>4138932
mountain dew
Its funny when your young you only want shitty food. Of course some people never grow up and survive on twinkies and instant noodles, like the manchildren they are.

This one is for the britfags. It was this shit tier fizzy drink (soda for you yanks) called panda pop. Due to licensing it was the only soda you could get. It was what all the badasses would drink. It cost 20p and tasted like shit but in school it was king.
>pic related

Senior 'Murrikan HS student here. Today was "Hispanic day." We were served:

-Tacos (soft shell where the meat is BOILED (their stoves and such are in full view on the other side of the lunch line), then strained into the tray. Cooked with onions, red peppers, and I think i tasted a little garlic.
-"Mexican rice" (rice that was just boiled in leftover beef stock, but with diced green and red peppers)
-Diced (canned) peaces
-Cole slaw
-Banana
-Drink options are white/chocolate milk, tea, or flavored water (regular bottled water, fruit juice and Propel is extra dosh)

Fucking horrible. Out of all the food they give us, Mexican day is the worst.

>>4140035
Oh, and baked beans, which are just redeyes in barbecue sauce baked with bacon strips overtop of them.

>>4137610 It's hard to make a shitty pizza

That's a good point. How is it that schools can actually manage to make a shitty pizza?

>>4140019

Did your school have a tuck shop?

>Primary school after school club.
>TFW the student run 'tuck shop' finally opens.
>Queue of kids scrounging their pennies together for a bottle of that pop and either a Freddo, Space Invaders or some assortment of penny chews in a bag.

Also special school days like 'non-uniform' when tuck shop was open.

Lets make options for a school of about 100-200 kids. Ages 10-18.

I'd say spaghetti with tomato paste/sauce, with the option of hamburger meat.
To hazard a guess, if you had about 6 stoves for boiling noodles it might take 15 minutes before lunchtime to cook the noodles, 20 minutes for the hamburger, sauce would simmer at 30 minutes. So all of that at half an hour. Garlic bread could be a side, maybe two buns or sticks. Can't think of another side.
A salad bar with pre-packaged lettuce, tomatoes, olives, etc, could be cut and sealed every weekend to use for the week, and then thrown out to restock. fruits would be replaced every 2 days.
Um... Milk, chocolate milk, water, juice. No pop.

Feel free to correct my retardedness. This is probably for a higher-middle class school. Does anyone else have ideas or something they would've like in their cafeterias?

>>4140071
no tuck shop.
but yes about school dinner.
space invaders. poorfags monster munch. 20p a bag.

freddo. the cheapest chocolate bar 15p. was okay until they changed it from regular cadbury chocolate. Didn't taste like real chocolate.
>also the label looks like feels good man frog.

Alright, so it seems like the biggest challenge is that schools can't figure out how to make healthy food that is inexpensive and easy to make in bulk, as well as being delicious and palatable to children.

So, here's a few sample menus. These could easily be done, especially if school systems pair up with local companies to order large quantities of fresh product.

>Make your own wrap (get a pre-portioned wrap of a whole wheat tortilla with a few options of meat, like ham and american, or turkey salad, let kids pick their own toppings like lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, and condiments like mustard and mayonnaise packets)
>fresh seasonal fruit, like watermelon slices in the summer. Orange or apple slices would be good for the winter.
>Baby carrots with a yogurt-based dipping sauce.
>Small package of animal crackers
>Milk

You let the kids get involved in what goes into their own food. You let them pick their fruit from 2-3 options, so that if they don't like oranges they can have apples instead. You give them dipping sauces so they can be actively engaged while eating. You give them something sweet in a small portion so they learn HOW to eat less healthy food properly.

>Chicken and veggie stir fry (chicken, broccoli, carrots, and a teriyaki sauce, heavy on the vegetables. Cooked in large batches on a big griddle.)
>Brown rice
>Green salad (lettuce, sliced tomato, shredded carrots) with salad dressing
>fruit salad with a slightly sweet yogurt base.
>milk

Again, you have a lot of sauces and flavor varieties, you give kids a bit of choice like what salad dressing they want, and you have a mix of things that are prepared fresh and prepared ahead of time.

>>4140759
Con't

>Chili, made with lots of corn, peppers, tomatoes, black beans, and carrots, as well as ground beef. They get a small-medium sized bowl, and the older kids can fill it themselves as much as they want.
>Toppings, like grated cheese, fresh tomatoes, corn, and small tub of sour cream.
>Their choice of either a small baked potato or a small bag of whole grain tortilla chips.
>fresh seasonal fruit
>milk OR water

Again, they get some choices. And I forgot to add, but schools should really start offering small containers of water for their students, as an option alongside milk. Unsweetened juice would be fine, too.

>Fishsticks, four, if they're the average size
>small containers of tartar sauce or cocktail sauce
>Steamed fresh broccoli (a little salt and pepper)
>Steamed carrots (same)
>seasonal fruit
>milk or water

Fishsticks aren't the healthiest option ever, but so long as you're not serving them with french fries, they're really not so bad. And if the kids are more likely to eat them, then great!

Anyways, yeah. There are healthy things that kids will eat. It's just a matter of finding the right balance between healthy and delicious.

I'll admit I've got a lot of the fresh salads and fruits on here, which some kids won't touch, but they need to learn to touch them at some point. Any kid who goes hungry because he won't eat fresh vegetables is a prick anyways.

>>4136883
PE usually graded by "effort"

Went to a private school for middle school. Cost around $18,000 when I went there, about $25,000 now. The lunch room was buffet style all-you-can-eat. Sandwich bar with several types of meats, breads, cheeses and other stuff. Salad bar as well. Two types of desserts. There were two main dishes, one "hot" and one "cold." Twice a week there was an ice cream bar with 6 types, sprinkles and shit. As a kid coming from an inner city school with shitty lunch food, I was in heaven.

They did some renovations since I've left, but it's still the same.

http://www.kentdenver.org/Menus

>mfw when people generalize about a country of 300+ million people and their eating habits.

>Most processed corn ever.
>Lasagna with real dairy cheese and white flour pasta.
>A fruit cup, probably with added sugar.
>Chocolate milk.
>Cookies

This is not nutrition, this is money-saving food.

Lunch cost for school - $0.35
Student payment - $20 for showing up

>>4140876
Also went to a private school. Mine had several lunch lines/stations, each serving a different type of cuisine. Each station had it's every day stuff then a special that changed daily. This meant that at any given time, there were about 20 different options.
All the food was locally sourced. Teachers organised trips for lower school students to go see the farms our food came from. By the time a student is in upper school, the interest in going to the farm to see where the vegetables are grown is far gone.

An affiliated school two days' drive away from mine had the students and faculty grow and care for vegetables for the entire school. I think students even worked the kitchens there.

>>4139088

>people saying that the gourmet lunches will lead kids into obesity

>>4140921
That's clearly a breadtangle of pizza.

>>4139125
>>4139111

That feel when there's a kid at your school who is allergic to potatoes. School faculty hears about it so potatoes are banned. No one is allowed to bring in anything to school containing potatoes.

>>4140876
>http://www.kentdenver.org/Menus
That looks heavenly. I'm jealous. I don't expect public schools to quite be at that level, but they could certainly get a lot closer than they currently do.

>>4140921
It's not lasagna, it's that shit-tier cheese pizza public schools serve.

>>4140943
>>4141018
Ah shit, even worse.

Ah school food.
Complete shit, even more so since my HS was some ghetto underfunded art school, which meant we got all the leftovers from other high schools. Canned veggies, cardboard food, and a meager selection of 'snacks'. The menu never changed.

>>4137761
Another Texan here, I had no idea how lucky we were. Some of these posts are just depressing. They didn't do the Frito pie thing here though, I feel cheated now.

>>4136801
This. As an Ontariofag, I got graded by how much I could benchpress. For a skinny, late-blooming teen, trying to press while surrounded by like 30 new faces was horrifying. I completely fucked up due to nerves, and got a horrible grade. Fuck gym, man

>>4136955
Dude, I did the same, and I work out 5 days a week now. Two very different environments, friendo.

>>/Highschool/

>>4137499
what do you expect, it's fucking sceak.

I'm actually jealous of everyone itt, who got a choice of vegetables and shit.

In my highschool there were 2 lines. One had the usual garbage, pizza, chicken nuggets, chicken sandwiches, maybe a quesadilla, everything served with a heap of fries.
The other line usually did different foods, they'd have different pasta, sometimes tacos or something.

You wanted salad? That shit cost extra, and it was this pathetic tiny bowl of bland lettuce and a packet of dressing.

>>4138613
Ah... you do realize that what you're saying right now is complete apologetic asspullery? You have to be very, very alienated from what vegetables are in reality to call goddamn tomato paste industrial waste on a cardboard pizza "a serving of vegetable".

That people pull out the "vegetable is pizza lololol" card so frequently is because of what it represents - atrocious, intentional falsehoods legislated because of industrial lobbying combined with one political pressure group's unending desire to sabotage the other to keep them from "earning points for the next election".

If school dinners could be decided upon completely without the attachments of pressure from pre-existing food industry structures as well as the heartless realpolitik game players, the system would be far more efficient. Simple scheme - have a school and the cafeteria staff negotiate a cafeteria funding program between them, with realistic budget goals on both sides. Then have the cafeteria staff devise short term menus that are based on what produce yield the best quality/quantity/cost ratio in the local area during the current season. Namely, bargain-hunt. Even better would be hiring an additional staff member or a third party enterpreneur for the job of acquiring produce at the lowest cost alone, as that would allow the cafeteria staff to focus on their job.

>>4142241

You did have a choice. You could have brought your own lunch.

>>4142219
>MFW I look like him.

Yeah, well at least I don't take Nogainz Tarzan glamor shots of myself and post them online.

The purpose is not nutrition but to serve as a form of welfare so that poorer children get at least one hot meal every day. The challenge is to create meals that cost around a dollar per, and that is impossible without resorting to the worst processed slop imagineable.

CAFETERIA LADY i thank you my child hood was great because you smiled at me when i wanted food.

>>4140019
>Of course some people never grow up and survive on twinkies and instant noodles, like the manchildren they are.

some people were denied the chance to enjoy shitty bad for you food when they were young and their bodies could easily burn the calories.

Like me.

I was rail thin as a kid, and always sluggish and underfed because my hippie single mother only bought coop food, despite not being able to afford enough to actually feed us 3 meals a day.

Breakfast was either free trade/locally grown whole wheat toast/bread with imported no-hormone no-preservative butter or hand-mixed grain cereal from the local co-op with local organic certified milk.

I priced it once.
It was like $8 a meal, and our portions were SMALL.

I was always hungry after 10, and lunch was usually organic fruits and vegetables, no more than 1 cup of fruit, but all the bitter ass gross "nutritious" veges she could fit into a baggy, and a small tupperware container of mixed free trade nuts for protein, and bottled water.
$8-$12 per fucking meal.

>>4142320
I know that she had good intentions for you guys, but children use more energy and need more food than adults do. That's like looking at these vegan parents that fucking starve their kids from birth because they "think it's so much better for them". Good intentions, terrible ideas.

>>4142320
>hippie single mother
REALLY sucks to be you

>>4142259
As a former cafeteria lady, moments like these were what made life worth living. When you smiled at hungry kids and gave them food, and they smiled back.

Remembering that, I think I'll apply to volunteer to a charity kitchen next week. Just to remember that.

>>4142405
There were two cafeteria ladies at my school. One always looked sour and mad, the other was friendly and sweet. We all liked the sweet lady. Thank you for being a cafeteria worker, and not being a bitch about it.

Why people who hate kids, choose to work around them I will never understand.

I started eating school lunches from 79' on and I had many that looked like OPs pic. Back then the peaches would have come from a huge can and the cookie from a box, no extra would be spent on packaging. Lunch was about $0.60 which seemed like a good deal to me.

Between the soy hamburger, the grilled cheese that not grilled but actually baked with a vegetable oil coating, lasagna/spaghetti with a red sauce that somehow tasted like it had been electrocuted (very poor quality garlic does that), and the peanut butter and jelly with the peanut butter that tasted like cardboard (how do you fuck up pb?) I think those lunches went a long way toward screwing up our sense of food.

I actually miss some of those flavors but I think its a Stockholm syndrome, just with food.

>>4137526
>sourcream and dill sauce
I want to have my coffin filled with that sauce when I die. Its SOOO GOOOOOD!

>>4138382
>mfw teachers got tabasco hot sauce and salt&pepper shakers in their tables

Well,now that I think of it,the student at the middle school I was at had their spice privileges removed,because everyone would just go around pouring tabasco on other people's plates.
(im from finland too,damn I love our school food)

>>4138428
>seeing as I'm a Florida Betarace
Speak for your own baby self, I'm
>>4138023
and the school was in Florida. Stop using your ghetto backwater middle school for Florida's standard.

What I don't get is people expecting quality food. It's public school, it's free, and dirt cheap to free for the kids to eat. The good food I had was available because there were people willing to prepare it all, most of them students. Thanks to budget cuts, you're not gonna have any of that in public schools, let alone schools that have culinary students practice.

Not that I would agree to allocate funds to the food, it's lunch FFS, spend it on teachers and curriculum and programs worth a damn

>>4142745

Here's an idea: How about instead of picking and choosing between good food or teachers, we actually put money into our educational system so the rest of the world stops laughing at how utterly incompetent and pathetic it is in every single possible regard?

Just saying.

>>4136794
Ours wasn't. It was usually based on "effort"... but for the longest time, if you were not on the volleyball or wrestling team (the gym teachers headed both), you were not getting an A.

>>4138342
It's optional in many schools. Most teachers bring their own, some eat in the cafeteria. Others may leave to get lunch.

>>4138472
because Texas

>>4136772

>state mandated lunch
>completely deprived of protein
>fruit that no one will eat b/c of cookies
>probably chocolate milk

jesus christ we need to change something

>>4142866
>we actually put money into our educational system

>Let's just, like, you know guys, just like throw dollar bills at schools and hope it magically you know, makes things happen, you know?

This is how your vague "idea" sounds like.

>instead of picking and choosing between good food or teachers,

Well, you're gonna have to allocate the funds, that's budgeting. You can have a billion dollars and you still have to manage how it's spent.

>so the rest of the world stops laughing at how utterly incompetent and pathetic it is in every single possible regard?

Maybe public schools, what do you expect for free? If you saw my original post, hell I want all the high schools to upgrade to technical schools, even art schools and curriculum. Have every student develop skills that can be used their living, or at least a foundation for building up on when they go for higher education or a career safety net if they decide to do something else. Instead of giving them a diploma and hoping for the best.

carbs everywhere, no greens

>>4137513
The crap is that? that wouldn't feed a starving fieldmouse.