/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>3839198
One's a pet and the other one is a barnyard animal

It doesn't make any sense to me either, but I suppose it's because some people equate eating dog with eating their pet, and that causes them some kind of irrational emotional response?

I've been told that in the UK a chippie will call "catfish" "rock eel" instead. Apparently the name "catfish" evokes memories of people's pet cat, so they call it rock eel instead.

>>3839198

I hand no idea that dog would come out just like Peking Duck....the more you know.

Isn't dog meat a bit chewy?

>>3839200
>implying a cow can't be a pet

people have personal attachment to their pets. if everyone kept a pig around the house as a loveable pet no one would want to eat pigs either.

Let me throw up a better example for you.
Lets say whales are now elves. and human beings hunt and or even farm them to slaughter them for their meat. they look pretty much exactly like humans, but they have long ears, and they can't really speak our language even if they can learn some tricks. different breeds have different levels of intelligence. some are like dogs, others are like monkeys, others more like apes. would you eat elves? where draw the line?

Most people wouldn't, not becuase elves are smart, we eat lots of smart animals, but because elves would remind us intimately of people we know and care about, the insides of a slaughter house with the heads severed would look like a cannibalistic nightmare, despite the similarities in appearance though, elves would have much different genes.

Now where do you draw the line? can you really just eat something that looks like part of your family?

I can't see a valid explanation. Same goes for:
>bugs = ew disgusting why would anyone eat that?
>pig meat = How can muslims not eat this? It's the best thing ever!

It's so much easier avoiding meat.

yes, I might have turned this into the daily vegan hate thread.

>>3839211
They CAN be, but society generally regards them as filthy barnyard animals that aren't suitable as pets because of their size and messiness.

In the end, they're both just muscles, bones, tissues, and organs; however, a cow can feed a lot more than a dog can. Not only that, but there's the whole mans best friend thing.

>Tfw you'd take a bullet for your dog

>>3839213
There are people who keep pigs, cows, and/or chickens as pets and eventually kill and eat them. They don't have to draw the line. The line is already drawn by rational, practical people, and retards who view their pets as being like humans. First we need to get the dumbasses to realize that dogs and cats are NOT people too, they are animals.

>>3839233
they do have to draw the line dipshit. If they eat the animals they've drawn the line above and don't care if theyre eating something that looks like their daughter, (or in your specific case, their daughters pet)

Basically no matter how you look at it, if someone eats the hypothetical elf theyre making a decision that it doesn't matter how smart and similar to me it looks and is, I will eat it if its not human(and tastes good)

>>3839233
you realise humans are animals too right?

I don't care what anyone does or believes as long as it does not affect my personally. If I want to harm myself by eating poorly and doing drugs, I should be allowed to. Don't even bring up health care costs, because I don't think that should be public.

The amish have it figured out. Why can't faggots and niggers form their own communities where they can marry and rape their children? Let them have some worthless state that doesn't have any infrastructure they can destroy and barricade them in. They can eat dog and other humans for all I care.

I'll move to the state with all the gun-wielding, bourbon-drinking redneck farmers and not have to deal with you disgusting pieces of rotting libtard atheist shitheads.

Dogs are far more sentient.

>>3839198
Sentimentality.

>>3839261
>>the amish have it figured out

What, you mean that place where they beat theyre women and rape them and their daughters and there's virtually nothing the law enforcement will do about it? Amish live in sin and keeping appearances are much more important than integrity there. Only a moron would want to live with the Amish.

The reason health care can't be private is because it forces the poor to go without it because most employers who work with them do not give them coverage and it's way to expensive to buy out of pocket. it's basically condemning poor people to an early death because the super rich doesn't want to food the bill and our terrible government is too busy blowing all our money on 'defense' because Idiots like my dad think china is going to invade us in 5 years and everyone from 18 to 40 are going to be drafted.

TL:DR youre an idiot, the amish haven't figured anything out except wife beating and daughter raping. Healthcare should be universal.

>>3839301
>amish are sinful people they rape da wimminz

Sounds like obvious feminist propaganda.

>>3839301
But I don't want any of those filthy poor people getting my money! They're poor, so you know they don't work hard at all. If they did, they'd be just as rich and fortunate as I am.

>>3839308
>Not condoning rape
>Feminist propaganda

Wat.

>>3839261
Heck yer, fuck dem hippies with der rights for dem colored folks and all that commie shit. All I's need is 'Murrica and muh tracter, heeyoo, haw!

>>3839301
>>3839309

The Amish mind their own business, and as a reward, we leave them alone. Faggots and niggers should get a clue.

End the federal government, and let all the faggots move to a state where they're welcomed. Once there, they will have the representation they need to control their local government and enact gay marriage. No more help from Uncle Sam.

Same goes for the poor. If all you liberals want to take care of each other so bad, then do it.

>2012
>not slow roasting your dog after plumping him up for 3 years
ishiggidydiggidy

>>3839329
I'd love to, that's easily the biggest mistake the republican party ever made. They've been trying to correct it ever since but they're too busy trying to push a bunch of other bullshit through at the same time that NOBODY BUT FUNDAMENTALIST FUCKTARDS WANT.

>>leaving the amish alone

just because they mind their own business doesn't mean they should get a cart Blanche to commit whatever crimes they want to innocent women and children.

>>3839329
>not realizing the majority of federal funding goes to traditionally conservative states.

>>3839216
>Dogs
>Not filthy

Rolling around in your own shit is a-okay now?

>>3839284
No, they aren't. They're cuter. You imprint sentience onto the cute widdle puppy and interpret actions guided by instinct as "sentience", when it's not. If you want to talk intelligence, pigs would be a far better bet.

>>3839342
>>3839341
>>3839329
>>3839319
>>3839261
>>>/pol/

Why is this shit on /ck/? Why can't you faggots ever just keep your politics shit on the board designed for politics? Why do you have to spread it to every other fucking board? We don't care. We never did.

>>3839349
butthurt liberal conservative jew stormfag nigger spic big business conspiracy traditional bigot tard detected

>>3839342

Right, and it's those states when combined, that are producing the most agriculture for this country. Yet farmers get paid shit because...you guessed it, the federal government. They wouldn't even need the rest of the country if you weren't putting a strain on them.

Silicon Valley? Hollywood? Those industries can force people to spend $50 on a video game/movie or go to jail for piracy. Their the same people who want cheap food, automobiles, and clothing for their families, but produce nothing of material value for this country.

The government forces them to pay-to-play through taxes, but it's not enough.

>>3839329
>Faggots and niggers should get a clue

The difference is that the Amish live a world completely separate from ours. Of course we never hear from/about them, because they don't have that goddamn technology (and because nobody gives a fuck). You're implying that blacks and gays should go and start their own society and be completely cut off from the outside world.

>>3839413

I'm not implying that. I'm saying that's exactly what they should do.

>>3839408
>Yet farmers get paid shit

Excuse me? Farmers get huge amounts of subsidies from the government, especially for products like corn which can be refined into a huge variety of different products (CS/HFCS, ethanol).

You think there aren't rich farmers? Boy, you're livin' in a Hollywood world.

jesus there are so many bad threads on /ck/
angry butthurt errwerr

>>3839423
>>3839413
>>3839419
>>3839408
>>>/pol/

>>3839423

Of course there are rich farmers. There are poor software developers.

The point is that for an industry which provides one of the single most important contributions to this country, the revenues are pale in comparison to banks and movie studios which (while they do make contributions) provide far, far less.

>act in a movie
>$20 million for each starring role
>write loans
>$1 million/year with bonuses
>play football
>$60 million contract
>run a chicken farm that provides nourishment
>30k/year
>teach a class full of students who will inherit and be responsible for our planet
>30k/year

>>3839457
>>far far less
thats because poor people need to eat dumbass, you realize that the more farmers make the more people have to pay just to fucking _subsist_ I don't need movies to live, I need food. you want farmers to be paid more? good for you. find a way to do it that doesn't shit all over health care and the prices of food.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh6ZDusOGwU

Force feeding ducks and geese so they become sick with enlarged livers = delicacy
Eating dogs which are bred for food and kept in better conditions than pigs = you sick bastard fucks

The western world has developed some sort of a barrier of what's appropriate to eat and what's not because there's been a very long time since people here were starving.

I don't hate Koreans for eating dogs. Actually, I wouldn't mind tasting one either. It's just some small-minded human waste blowing insignificant and harmless cultural differences out of proportion. We live in such safety and seclusion here in the western world that we can actually afford to have people hate civilizations they have never ever even met a member of just because of their eating habits.

Hmm. Since I'm a vastly superior Scandinavian ubermensch, I can't help but wonder if yanks would burst into tears over me eating reindeer or bear because "POOR LITTLE RUDOLPH AND WINNIE!"

>>3839457
And none of that is by fault of the federal government.

>30k/year

Try 60k a year, national average, without counting the rich industrial farmers.

>HURR PRODUCTS THAT ARE IN HIGHER DEMAND WILL COST MORE THIS IS TOTALLY NEWS GUYS

ECONOMICS 101 UP IN /ck/

>>3839467

Tax Hollywood and the banks more. Duh.

>>3839487
We already do, moron. That doesn't change the fact that entertainment is in higher demand and lesser supply than farmland.

What are you arguing about? The government actively pays farmers to work.

What the fuck do you want? To ban the entertainment industry and force everyone to be farmers? To render it unviable as a business model and for it to dissolve, leaving millions out of work?

It sounds like you're just complaining about modern society to be edgy and cool.

One thing about these American "republicans" I find particularily amusing is their insistence on their right to everything they get on the mercies of their "gubmint", and their society at large, as something "earned by their own work". I suppose lacking education, sociopathy and delusions of grandeur are civil liberties, though. On the other hand, I'd prefer to treat it as a mental illness. Anyone thinking themselves deserving to be a "free self-made man" is just another retard with no concept of society in dire need of re-education and medication.

>>3839513
>On the other hand, I'd prefer to treat it as a mental illness. Anyone thinking themselves deserving to be a "free self-made man" is just another retard with no concept of society in dire need of re-education and medication.

>>3839502

>That doesn't change the fact that entertainment is in higher demand and lesser supply than farmland.

Please tell me what this "supply" is that you're referring to. $0.10 DVDs? Infrastructure for legal digital downloads? Movie theatres? Get real.

Also, if there is true supply and demand in the entertainment industry, then why do all ticket prices for new releases cost the same amount of money? Wouldn't ticket prices on the first night for a movie like The Dark Knight Rises reflect the high demand?

>>3839198
>cow meat = dinner

Fuck no.

>>3839518
>Wouldn't ticket prices on the first night for a movie like The Dark Knight Rises reflect the high demand?

They do, you moron. That's why second hand ticket sales are so high for midnight showings. That's why James Holmes got to shoot up a crowded theater at 12:00AM.

You really don't understand modern society, and you really should just stop posting.

>>3839516
What? You aren't seriously saying you deserve to drive an SUV just because you can afford it, do you?

>>3839525

It's like you HAVE to be either an ultra rightist blame all the world's problems on colored people or an ultra leftist blame all your problems on society and capitalism on this fucking site.

I hate you 4chan, I really do.

>>3839521

>second hand ticket sales are so high for midnight showings
>second hand

You still haven't answered my question.

The theater charges, let's say, $15 a ticket for a movie. After the first week, the price continues to be $15 despite a drop in sales.

>>3839534
You asked if supply and demand applies to movie ticket sales. I proved they did.

Stop changing the goal posts.

>>3839538

What you described is scalping.

>>3839540
>If I call it a fancy name it'll change it!

You really don't understand modern society, and you really should just stop posting.

>>3839538
No you didn't because the people who make movies never see a dime of that money. what IS in supply with high ass demand is a service where people buy tickets for you for opening night and you have to pay them for doing that.

>>3839214
I'm in favor of farming insects for food

but look at these things, they're gorgeous!

>>3839546
>No you didn't because the people who make movies never see a dime of that money

You're saying that nobody makes any money off of sold out opening weekends?

Okay, I think there's a point where delusion has taken hold over the board, and that point is... now.

>>3839214
No, avoiding meat is a knee-jerk escapist reaction.

The real easy way is to just eat everything, including so called "disgusting" foods.

I never got why humanity limits itself to all the pleasures of the world when we only have about 70-80 years on this earth, and that's it. After that, no one knows.

>>3839547

Indeed.

>>3839549
youre retarded, People don't make money in opening week ends based on supply and demand with the the sole exception of the number of seats they can fit in a viewing. that was the point, if you can't stay on topic get the fuck out.

>>3839557
>People don't make money in opening week ends

>EXCEPT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HOW THEY MAKE MONEY BASED ON SUPPLY AND DEMAND LOLOLOL

Okay, I think there's a point where delusion has taken hold over the board, and that point is... now.

>>3839534
>Implying theaters don't drop the price after the opening weekend

I'm guessing you've never been to a theater before? too capitalist pig dog for you?

>>3839563
I forgot about mentioning late-run theaters and afternoon showings to the faggot.

>>3839559
you really are a dipshit.

going to leave you to your retardation after I point out one little thing moron.
>>3839521
>>HURR SECOND HAYND TICKET SELLS ARE SO HIGH SO IT IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND DURRR

>>3839557
>>no youre a retard, the tickets selling high have nothing to do with the movie industry, its a completely different supply and demand, one for the service industry to provide high paying customers with opening night tickets so they don't have to worry about it. The only supply and demand that affects the movie theaters is their number of seats for the opening


>>3839559
>>HURRr YOU SAID SUPPLY AND DEMAND HAW HAW DAT MEANS I'M RITE YOURE DELOOSHUNALLL

No, afraid not, youre the delusional dipshit here. You made a statement about how second hand tickets rising in price proves that supply and demand affects movie theaters and hollywood, Which was proven wrong. When i told you the real way Supply and demand effects theaters, you acted like a shit head despite being the one with an asinine argument you still haven't let go of.

TL:DR no U.

>>3839198
historically dogs were considered useless as beasts of labour. The cant pull a plow, you cant ride it. So they bred it and ate it.

also its doesnt taste that great.


also the amount of retardation in the thread is uncharacteristically high, for /ck/ that is.

>>3839572
>If I make my opponent's posts sound stupid, that makes me right! LOL!

Insulting someone over and over again does not prove them wrong, sorry to burst your little bubble.

Okay, I think there's a point where delusion has taken hold over the board, and that point is... now.

The only fixed resource for a movie theater are the seats. The price of the ticket does not change based on the number of seats available. If it did, they would build smaller theaters and have fewer showings. Or, alternatively, they would build larger theaters and charge based on the location of your seat. The reason they don't do this is because supply is so high. A movie can be experienced in a dozen different ways. This is not true for baseball games which are once-in-a-lifetime events. Sure, you can watch a recording or broadcast of a game, but the demand to have a seat at the actual event is much higher than that for a movie.

>>3839584
>The price of the ticket does not change based on the number of seats available

>Implying private showings and lounge theaters do not cost more than just average tickets

my god, it's like none of you have ever been to a real theater before and you're just going by bumper sticker logic that's "supposed" to make sense

>>3839584
>demand to have a seat at the actual event is much higher than that for a movie.

The demand to have a seat at a theater is higher than buying the Blu-Ray a year later, too.

>>3839586

The ticket prices at an IMAX with 100 seats are the same at one with 200 seats.

You're confusing the cost of a premium service (private and lounge theaters) with the cost of producing and distributing a movie.

There is no limited supply except what is created artificially.

Strawman Argument: The Thread

And you know what's even more sad? People STILL reply to them in a serious manner

>>3839588
The ticket prices at an IMAX are higher than a regular theater.

>You're confusing the cost of a premium service (private and lounge theaters) with the cost of producing and distributing a movie.

What the fuck do you think a premium service is but restricted supply and higher demand?

>>3839589
imageofthatgraphwithbarsshowingthatguywhopostsstrawmanargumentinathread.jpg

>>3839590

>restricted supply and higher demand

Finally. You get it.

>>3839590

>demand for a service
>demand for material goods

Not the same thing nor do they work on the same principles.

>>3839593
Now you're just acting like a baby and trying to shout "CONSPRIACY CONSPIRACY ITS ALL JUST A BIG THEATER CONSPIRACY" over and over again.

Face it, movies are in higher demand than food. That was the original argument. That's why tickets STILL cost $15 compared to the dollar a day you could arguably use to survive off of food.

>>3839594
>Movies are not material goods

okay, whatever you say, Mr. Redefine everything until I win

>>3839596

>Face it, movies are in higher demand than food.

Except with food the supply and demand is real. It's not created through scarcity via market manipulation.

>>3839597

Are you implying a digital download is a material good?

>>3839600
are you implying that a digital download is something metaphysical?

>>3839597

>okay, whatever you say, Mr. Redefine everything until I win

No. Arguing "supply and demand" was important to get you to understand the difference forces at play.

>>3839598
Now you're just acting like a baby and trying to shout "CONSPRIACY CONSPIRACY ITS ALL JUST A BIG THEATER CONSPIRACY" over and over again.

What the fuck do you want? No matter what you argue, movies are still being taxed higher than farmers. No matter what you say, the government still supports farmers more than the entertainment industry.

Stop being a edgy faggot and actually argue with me, or go back to >>>/pol/.

Both my parents are vets, I grew up surrounded by animals, I love animals (more than people most of the time), etc.

And I hunt - birds, rabbit, deer, and moose. And fish.

It is always hard for me to kill an animal and I always feel a mixture of exultation, profound sadness, guilt, etc. I ran over a cat and moved its body off the road with tears in my eyes. I could *never* kill a dog or cat. 99% is to do with an emotional bond I have with them, but I also don't believe in killing/eating largely carnivorous mammals.

Just the way life goes. We feel a deeper bond with animals we grow up with or have a strong social connection with. It may seem hypocritical, but it really isn't at all, it makes a lot of sense.

>>3839604
>hurr look at me i'm a teacher xD by the way let me ignore your argument altogether

worst type of retard on 4chan

>>3839606

It's not a conspiracy.

>>3839607
>I ran over a cat

>I could *never* kill a dog or cat.

Too late you already did

>>3839609
Stop being a edgy faggot and actually argue with me, or go back to >>>/pol/.

>>3839610
lol you are right, but I should amend that statement with "purposely kill".

>>3839613

>calls someone an edgy faggot
>wants a real argument

Pick one.

>>3839616
Stop being a edgy faggot and actually argue with me, or go back to >>>/pol/.

None of this shit has anything to do with food. Even the original post was a vaguely relevant piece of trollery, and stil you shitheels managed to go off on an entirely differenent tangent.

Somebody just permaban Republican White Jesus already. Everyone knows who I'm talking about. Threads spontaneously combust in his wake.

>>3839607
What separates carnivorous mammals from carnivorous sauropsids in your eyes?

It certainly can't be intelligence, because sauropsids contain some of the most intelligent animals on the Earth and are at least comparable to synapsids in that figure.

>>3839622
I eat fish (which eat fish) and waterfowl/upland birds which eat invertebrates among other things.

I don't know, something about eating carnivorous mammals doesn't seem right. If you think of the ecosystem as a pyramid, with the apex carnivores on top, killing one will have a larger impact than killing an herbivore/opportunistic omnivore.

There is just something off-putting about it. I can't describe it.

>>3839627
That doesn't answer the question, though.

Carnivorous sauropsids are very important in their ecological niche, usually.

>>3839628
I don't hunt predator birds/lizards though.

>>3839629
What about piscivorous waterfowl?

>>3839631
They aren't obligate carnivores though. And bird-on-fish isn't mammal-on-mammal.

>>3839634
>obligate carnivores

But they are, objectively.


>And bird-on-fish isn't mammal-on-mammal.

Why?

>/k/ visitor here
Scientifically, dogs are descended from a predator animal. This means they are less healthy to eat, and the nutrients you get will be lesser than an herbivore or "prey" animal. We run into this same problem with dolphins, although dolphins are slightly different with the large levels of mercury in their systems.

That and the fact that my dog is a part of my family. He earns his keep when I hunt and asks very little in return. If you can find me a pig or cow that does the same thing, then please, do so.

>>3839638
>Implicating that pigs aren't god-tier pets that provide both companionship and larder
>Implicating that pigs aren't more intelligent than dogs, proven through numerous studies on the subject

Dogs still are a predator animal, by the way. Effectively, they're a subspecies of grey wolf. Not that this relates.

>>3839213
how the fuck is that a "better" example? That's one of the most retarded analogies I've ever heard.

>>3839642
Indeed, it is. With the exception of pigs, maybe, the most intelligent animals on Earth are generally not eaten or are banned to even hunt. Whales are the only proven self-aware family that are still hunted regularly.

>>3839641
I understand that pigs are supposed to be more intelligent than dogs, but even then a pig won't (to my knowledge) help me fight a boar, retrieve ducks or track. It's not the intelligence, it's the companionship and loyalty that makes a dog.

I've got nothing against pigs, but they are a perfect animal for meat raising. Requires less land than cattle, easy to feed and relatively (muslim bros aside) tasty. Intelligence in this area is a non-issue, since it's not like the pig is talking to me or making tools.

For the record, if served dog I would eat it, not to offend the host, but it's not like I'd actively seek it out. Tried some locusts once and they were pretty delicious though.

>>3839641
>implying implicating=implying
>implying that's what he was implying in the first place
his dog is part of his family as well as (and this is important, so pay attention) his hunting partner. Pigs are not hunting partners.

>>3839471
>shoving that long hard tube down that throat

WeirdestBoner.jpg

>>3839457
30k a year for being a teacher!! thats good pay!!! thats almost as much as a police oficer makes... fuck all them poor poor people barley getting by in life with their 30k a year jobs plus benifits... poor poor worker is at the bottom of the list for high paying government jobs... wow even being a poor teacher still brings in almost three times the income of a poor non government worker... ehh fuck it tax the people making 12k a year even more so that the poor poor poverty stricken teachers making 30k a year with a three month vacation can afford to eat.. how about the poor poor government secritaries who make more then teachers and do even more complex paperwork... poor poor secritaries with their 401k plan who get to retire in 20 years and who have great benifits... how do they even manage to live making only 20 plus dollars an hour

>>3839648
>but even then a pig won't (to my knowledge) help me fight a boar, retrieve ducks or track

You could arguably train a pig to do the last two things, and a wild boar to do all three.

>It's not the intelligence, it's the companionship and loyalty that makes a dog.

Pigs provide both of those. Keep your story straight.

>For the record, if served dog I would eat it, not to offend the host, but it's not like I'd actively seek it out. Tried some locusts once and they were pretty delicious though.

At least you aren't retarded about it.

>>3839652
Just about ANY animal could become "part of the family". This doesn't mean you rally to protest against other people who don't have that particular species as part of their family and desire to eat it. Emotions should not come into play with what's logical and measurable, or you get Christfaggotry.

>>3839659
The first of your responses was the most suprising. I'll have to look into that, as I've never heard of a pig being used for hunting, being a prey animal after all. I will stand by that my dog is a part of my family in a way a pig could never be. I've not really been candid, my dog is not a "pet". I could say my horse is, since she is just there for me to ride every now and then, it's not like I have to use her to get to work, but my dog is both a tool and a member of the family.

I understand what you mean, but I could no more buy dog meat at the supermarket than I could chimpanzee meat. It's all about the culture you're raised in, I think, and it's up to us to decide to not judge another culture by our standards. This is why I have nothing against the hunting and fishing of whales by inuit tribes and northern european island nations.

Don't hate Koreans, but here's the difference:

Dogs chose us. They domesticated themselves upon realizing the mutual benefit of a continued relationship.

Beef cows were bred to eat. The only reason they exist in their current form is because we created them to eat them. We cannot release them back into the wild because there is no wild.

Even the most babied teacup poodle maintains dog instincts and, under the right circumstances, would kill/die for its family and would be able to survive in reasonable "wild" surroundings.


We owe it to dogs to not eat them.

When did all the lame /pol/ trolls come to /ck/? It has been like this for a month or so, pretty lame.

>>3839638
>the nutrients you get will be lesser than an herbivore or "prey" animal.
you got this backwards, the meat of a predator is richer than a herbivore, it can still be a bad idea to eat it though. I am personally in favor of eating dogs, but if you eat the liver of any predator, it will kill you.

>>3839657

I think you missed the point. It's not that 30k is bad pay, but that it is far more work and responsibility than jobs that pay more but require less of those things.

Why be a teacher when you can make a fortune writing loans to poor people?

>>3839685
>They domesticated themselves upon realizing the mutual benefit of a continued relationship

Debatable as hell whether or not they were attracted to us or we captured members for food or protection. Could be both. Also, dogs WERE eaten as food during times of shortage. That's one of the reasons they were domesticated in the first place. Remember, it wasn't until after the Neolithic revolution that wolves were domesticated. Those that domesticated the wolves weren't really hunting by that point.

>The only reason they exist in their current form is because we created them to eat them

No, we domesticated a few choice members, and then killed off the wild forebears. Otherwise we would still have aurochs along side cattle, ala wild boars and pigs, grey wolves and dogs, wildcats and cats. Funnily enough, it's entirely possible for domesticated species to go back to their wild roots after the fact (see: dingoes). Even cattle could arguably regress back to something resembling their auroch ancestors given the right ecology.

>We owe it to dogs to not eat them.

Why? Because they provide companionship? Anything can provide companionship, that's not a good enough reason to not eat members of the species that aren't your companion. Humans are sentient, which is why we (most of us) don't, before you even start.

>>3839697
>Why be a teacher when you can make a fortune writing loans to poor people?

It isn't that easy. Getting into business is a hell of a lot harder than Hollywood teaches us, and there's a hell of a lot that go bankrupt every year, moreso during a recession. Yes, there are lucky individuals that make wealth, but it's not "glam & glitz" for every Jewish banker. Why do you think old money live so stringently?

Being a teacher is consistent, steady work with a huge amount of benefits. There will always be a demand for them, just like doctors or lawyers. Being a businessman, is, at its very nature, taking risks.

>cow meat = heart disease

Fix'd

>>3839718

I won't argue that Doctors are overpaid and overvalued, but lawyers...come on.

So, I'll ask the question again, why teach when you can chase ambulances and defaulted loans and make a small fortune?

>>3839679

I'm not sure if other anon is right about being able to train pigs, but I do know that pigs are opportunistic predators. They'll kill and eat some smaller animals and the occasional bigger animal. As far as I know they'll eat just about anything since they are omnivores.
I have also heard stories about pet pigs getting protective of their owners and attacking burglars and stuff, but as far as hunting goes I've never heard of a pig being trained to hunt anything other then truffles.

we 'genetically engineered' dogs from wolves over tens of thousands of years. it is something that has perplexed scientists for a long time. all dogs on the planet are descended from wolves, barring none. not one breed of dog shares its lineage with any other wild canine. this presents a huge problem; how do they exist, where do they come from? wolves can not be tamed. wolves have never been tamed in the history of the world. they stick with their pack, and if a lone wolf is separated and held captive, it will attack anything and anyone, and eventually die from starvation/dehydration. even wolves taken from their pack directly after birth, or ones born in captivity, act in the exact same way. even more perplexing is that if a wolf is born different, a genetic mutation, smaller or sickly, deformed etc. it is immediately killed by the pack. they will tear it to shreds.

so how the fuck did we get dogs? logically, we can only assume that primitive humans rescued some of these deformed wolves. these new 'dogs' evolved to form a bond with mankind. that is why they are man's best friend. they joined our pack families willingly as they realised it was mutually beneficial. they were used for hunting, for security and companionship, and were fed and taken care of in return.

why would you ever want to harm the broest of all animals?

>>3839345
Clearly never owned a dog. Very few of them roll around in their own shit and they only do that because it masks their own dogscent for hunting prey. Pigs roll in their own shit because they're faggots. Tasty tasty faggots.

>>3839734
>we 'genetically engineered'

No. We selectively bred, akin to cats. We artificially selected traits that would most benefit us, probably unintentionally at first.

>it is something that has perplexed scientists for a long time

No it hasn't. It's actually fairly clear cut these days.

>wolves can not be tamed. wolves have never been tamed in the history of the world. they stick with their pack

All of these things are wrong. Wolves can be and have been tamed before, both in modernity and in the prehistoric world.

>we can only assume that primitive humans rescued some of these deformed wolves

If so, we would be able to trace the genetic deformity back from dogs to wolves.

Wolves were either attracted to humans by food stores or were taken from the wild by random chance.

>>3839742
Clearly never owned a pig. Only factory farmed sow roll around in their own shit because they don't have any fucking space to roam. Otherwise, they shit separate from their living quarters and roll around in mud to keep cool.

>>3839725
Lawyers are paid highly because there's always going to be lawsuits waiting that need legal defense/offense. It's a fact of modern life. Before then, we settled disputes by shooting each other. Which would you rather have?

>So, I'll ask the question again, why teach when you can chase ambulances and defaulted loans and make a small fortune?

And I say again: Benefits and reliability. Lawyers go bust easily if they're shit at it or if they can't get good cases. Also, they require years of legal training and they have to pass the bar. Teachers require comparatively little, unless you're talking uni professors.

You keep thinking that there's something moral in being a teacher. There isn't. You've been to school, right? You're pretty much bound to have had teachers that hated their jobs and hated dealing with kids. In fact, that's probably the norm. No one likes to deal with kids unless they're their own and they have brain produced drugs to help out.

You teach because there will always be kids to teach, and because there will always be a paycheck waiting for you at the end of the month, and because you get to relax during the summer, and because you get free health care and so forth.

>>3839750

>implying teachers don't get fired for stupid shit

because dogs are fucking awesome and cows are dumb slow farting machines.

that dog looks crispy and delicious