/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>20546509
The cheap ones suck because they have crappy parts in them. But here's the rub - every method for cooking the rice is the same. You can cook it in a donabe, a pot, a crock pot, an insta pot, they all come out identical if you following cooking instructions properly and don't overcook it.

If you are eating rice on the regular, sure go for it. But if you do rice like <1wk, just pot cook it.

>>20546522
How fucking dare you slander the humble donabe. They do short grain rice better than all cookers. Fact. No contest or question about it.

>>20546522
I do rice like +3 times a week. I went from pot to cheap insta cooker cause mom wanted me to have it when I moved out. What makes this worth?

>>20546509
it doesn't have to be that exact model of zojirishi but make sure whatever you buy is at least from zojirushi

all the other brands are dogshit

>>20546509
>>20546528
At your consumption rate, a cheap $20 one is fine. So unless you're an absolute dipshit or hipster faggot, there's no need to waste money on a fancy cooker.

>>20546553
t. Zojirushi salesman

>>20546528
it's a machine that cooks rice kinda good. if you have the money I'd get the induction one because the regular model takes like 40+ minutes to cook white rice and over an hour to cook brown rice.

if you don't have the money just cook rice in a pan or get some random one that looks good.

>It's 2024 and there are still faggots on /ck/ creaming themselves over an overpriced meme zojirushi
It's a fucking rice cooker
I don't see you faggots waging wars over toasters and sandwich makers

Whats the best rice cooker if I just want to have a cook/keep warm function?

>spend $300 on induction zojirushi at start of covid
>it works ok i guess
>gf scratches up bowl with metal tools over time bc women are retarded
>go to order replacement bowl
>model changed ever so slightly, bowl doesnt exist any more

it still works ok but i find myself using a pot sometimes anyway because it takes half the time for the same result

for the price, i wouldve expected available replacement parts and i dont think its worth it if you have any other kitchen purchases the money could go towards

I searched for a rice cooker with stainless steel pot and found this
https://yunhai.shop/collections/tatung-6-cup-accessories-and-replacement-parts/products/6-cup-electric-rice-cooker-and-steamer-pea-green
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS-BaviL0iE
Anyone used it? First time ive heard of it. Seems pretty cool. Its technically a double boiler/steamer but can also cook rice.

>>20546509

I'm drunk right now and I just realised that those things are designed to look like cute pigs.

>>20546936
If it has a stainless steel pot, isn't paper thin, and isn't made from some unknown backyard heavy metals ridden foundry, then it'll do its job
Just note that stainless steel pots take slightly longer to heat up, so I just nuke a soup mug's worth of water in the microwave as I measure and rinse the rice

>>20546957
Apparently its been made since the 60s. Watched a review on youtube and a woman used her for 25 years before it started having problems.

>>20546528
>>20546584
At 3+/times per week, a $250 rice cooker costs about $3 per use over 5 years. Over 10 years at 3x per week that's $1.50 per use.

And if you eat rice 5x/week it only costs $1 per use after 1 year. And pennies per use going beyond that first year.

Obviously it depends how much youre making rice, but 3x+ per week is easily in the territory where a $100-250 rice cooker makes sense.

If you're eating rice less than once per week, then the $20 unit makes sense.

>>20546932
What model?

They have replacement bowls for almost all the models from the last 10-15 years. If its sold out you can try emailing them and they can try to get one for you.

>>20547108
Couldn’t imagine eating rice 5x a week.
Doubt even the biggest weeaboo faggot could manage that.

>>20547122
You realize people eat rice every single day in some parts of the would... Right?

Not even just everyday, sometimes you'll make a batch of rice for breakfast, pack the leftover rice for lunch, then get home and start another batch of rice for dinner (leftover rice gets used for fried rice)

>>20547108
Neat I guess, but still I'm kinda halted on the price. The amount of rice I cook is like 4 cups after cooking.

>>20546790
This one looks neat, if not expensive ill prob just scoop this

>>20547122
I'm hispanic and where we're from, we are raised on white rice. It's not an asian thing dude.

>>20547108
This is one of the most autistic, pseudo-intellectual posts I've ever read on/ck/.

>>20547389
>figuring out cost-per-use is pseudo-intellectual
Honestly surprised you have enough mental function to write out a multi-clausal sentence like that. How poor are you that the idea of figuring out the cost-utility of something is autism?

>>20547122
You have autism.

>>20547108
why don't you compare cost per use for a $20 rice cooker and see how superior it is then?

>>20547265
My family's been using that stainless Khind cooker for over a decade and counting by this point, no issues whatsoever
I think Khind is a Malaysian native brand though, even if I hear they sell their appliances overseas too

I have one and it's exceptional. I make rice 4-5 times a week so it's worth it to me. If putting rice on isn't step one to 99% of your meals, I wouldn't get it and would stick with a cheaper one. It has a large footprint too, which may make it even more annoying if you're limited on space.

would it be worth it if someone wants to do more than just the basic white or brown rice?

>>20547664
Its ability to cook various grains is probably its main benefit outside of being sturdy enough that you can take it for granted for a decades.

>>20546509
i love it. my brother bought one and he loves it too. i would say if you are only cooking long or medium grain rice it might not be worth it, but for short grain rice it is. also it'll keep your rice warm without drying out for a loooong time. i've had leftover rice for breakfast before. if you're going to use it a lot and you have the money it's a nice appliance to have. if you're not going to use it often or if you don't have the money to blow on fancy crap you don't necessarily need, just stick with your cheapo.

>>20546944
delete this

>>20546932
>>20547114
yea being able to get a replacement bowl was a big reason i spent extra for a nice machine. i'm pretty certain anon who couldn't get one is doing it wrong, not to mention a jackass for thinking that his gf is dumb because she's a woman and not just because she's dumb. that said, we have the one OP posted and it gets used a lot and the bowl looks brand new after at least 3 years of use.

>>20546932
>>gf scratches up bowl with metal tools over time bc women are retarded
My cousin scratched it all up with a steel wool. Why are women so incompetent in the kitchen nowadays?

>>20547864
Feminism "promoted" women out of kitchens and home economics in general and generations of knowledge was destroyed

>>20547451
1. You trying to calculate the cost per use of a kitchen appliance is absolutely USDA-Prime autism. I bet you probably also calculated the cost of opening your fridge door and boiling water on your stove or in an electric kettle.

2. Your math isn't even correct. Assuming Op makes rice only once a week and eats 3 servings of it like he had said, that's 52 times in a year / 260 times in 5 years. Therefore a $250 appliance used over 260 times over 5 years would be $0.96 per use. And more frequent usages above once a week would yield an even lower cost per use number. And yet somehow you managed to calculate $3 per use.

3. Given that Op already has a $20 cooker, if we apply same math, that's only $0.07 per use vs the $0.96 of the Zojirushi that you're trying to shill... a savings of almost 14x. And yet, you with your shit math of $3 per use over 5 years, still tried to justify that as a good deal.

So not only are you autistic as fuck, you're also retarded.

>>20547917
>he can't even reply to the right person
lol

lmao even

>>20547935
>>hurr durr look at me guys, I was only pretending to be retarded

>>20547917
Now THIS is the most autistic post I've seen on this website

>>20547917
It's absolutely worth calculating the cost-per-use of an appliance of questionable utility for most, and it's a quantifiable answer to the question "is it worth upgrading." Or perhaps you instead believe that
>nah brah not worth
>yeah dude totally worth
Is the only way to answer such a question properly. Seriously, how much in savings do you have? It sounds like the concept of reasoning about money is foreign to you

i bought a "Yum Asia Panda Mini Rice Cooker" a year and a half ago for £100, i use it 3-5 times a week and a housemate potentially about 2-3 on top. never used any other function on it, might do one day. but its a solid item. sure cooking on the stovetop is easy but you just cant beat whacking the rice on and being able to fuck off for hours at a time without ruining it

>>20546509
Just get a pot. You don't need to schedule your rice cooking. It's OK to spend time for cooking.

>>20548864
For a staple like rice, it's better to just have it be a hands off experience.

>>20546509
bought this at costco works per4fect, wouldn't spend more.

>>20546509
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_HOrMmWoMA

>>20548864
You "spend time" hovering over a pot of rice (once a month), I trust my appliances to make me a perfect batch (every day of the week) while I do much more important tasks.

>>20546509
just cook your rice on a normal pot instead of wasting money on this stuff.
>>20547122
Welcome to latin america, gringo.

>>20547892
daily reminder that if the women in your life are vapid, dumb, or otherwise useless, that solely reflects poorly on you. i'm sorry if you find yourself surrounded by morons but like attracts like.

I want to get one for weeaboo aesthetics but i already have one of those 7 in 1 crock pot things that i use almost exclusively for rice and have zero reason to use anything else.

>>20547114
>$80 for a thin metal bowl
same shit happened with my air fryer basket and the replacement is like $50 minimum which is like 80% what the entire air fryer already costs

>>20549412
$80 for a part on a $250-300 machine that only needs to be replaced when you do something stupid, or after ~5-10 years of use (depending on your use patterns) isn't really that big of a deal to me.

I went ahead and planned ahead and simply bought a replacement bowl when i ordered my rice cooker, so i would have one on hand when it does eventually wear out and I don't need to worry about them not making them anymore since I already have it.

>>20546509
zojirushi is old news
cuckoo has surpassed it

>>20549454
Cuckoo doesn't have any models that approach what zoji offers in japan.

Also Zoji JUST refreshed their entire north American lineup in the last few months and they're phasing out the older models slowly as stock dwindles.

>>20549461
well played
but i want you to know that in the end, cuckoo will win this arms race
just wait

>>20549480
Good luck next time gook

>>20549058
>much more important tasks
Like what?
>>20548973
What do you mean? Just put rice in a boiling water and wait amount of minutes it says on the package. You don't have to babysit it.

>>20549615
>and wait amount of minutes it says on the package
The package says use a rice cooker and the manufacturer's recommended settings.

It’s incredible how much spergs hate rice cookers. No other appliance generates this level of seethe.

>>20549715
Japan? There's no saving you then. You guys fall for all sorts of marketing.

>>20549780
It's honestly hilarious
Seething about rice cookers and proclaiming that stovetop is superior (it's neither superior nor inferior) is basically the equivalent of "nooooo you can't use a toaster to conveniently toast your bread, you need to whip out your cast iron pan to heat two slices of bread nooooo"

>>20548381
>calculating the cost-per-use of an appliance of questionable utility
>appliance of questionable utility
>questionable utility
If you need to crunch numbers for an appliance that you're rarely gonna use, then you have no reason to upgrade in the first place unless you either want to just splurge or you need it to do a very specific or hard-to-replicate task. Is the concept of cost-benefit analysis so foreign to you that you have to pull out a calculator everytime you're confronted with a situation whose answer is so blatantly obvious?

>>20546509
I got mine from a goodwill a couple years ago for $20 because the people working there didn't realize it was worth a lot more (which would prompt them to put it on the online auction site). As someone who has used a regular pot or a $40 walmart slow/rice cooker their entire life, it definitely cooks the rice a lot better.

Wait until pic goes on sale, say $130-140, and buy it. It cooks everything well including rice. Not worth full list.

>>20548381
People digging at you are right.
Not only is your math fucked, if you have to go into that kind of depth for an under $500 purchase that not only saves marginal time (acting as though all of the time cooking rice is active cooking is idiotic, so you're only really saving the time when you put the rice on and have to leave the vicinity in such a manner that leaving it on the stove is a bad idea+possibly reheat time-cleaning differential, so maybe a couple of hours over a year for most people), but also the fact that the primary function is perfectly well served by $20-30 versions.

Buy the cheap one if it's something that will somewhat help you, then save your $$$ until the purchase doesn't stress your budget.

Additionally, you're not valuing time. $/use is only a sensible metric if you have a dollar amount for your time and effort. Something costing say $3/use is nonsensical in a vacuum. If it's saving you $5 of time and effort (for a net +$2), then it's a good investment. If it's saving you $1/of time and effort, then that's a loss of $4/use and it's a poor investment. To better visualize it, if there were a coin slot on there, would you be willing to put in $3 every time you used it until you hit the purchase price? Really though, since you're spending all the money now, you can't even use that $3 figure going forward because of the time value of money so you have to offset future discounting.

This is all a shitton more mental effort than any purchase of this nature deserves. This is what you should be doing for things in the thousands. If you want to do even ok with money, you're not even considering purchasing anything where you're tempted to do this at such a small dollar amount for anything with competent substitutions at 10% the price.

>>20550100
I'm not the guy that did the math

is /ck/ incapable of cooking rice in a regular saucepan?
its the easiest shit in the world yo

>>20550555
yeah let me stand in front of my stove for 30 minutes instead of pressing a button and walking away

I've put some rice on to cook in the cooker but in the water I put left over beef flavouring from a noodle cake, I ended up having to add extra water to be able to mix all the flavoring in but let's see how this turns out, I set it to quick cook instead of the standard white rice setting

>>20550631
Alright it's nice but you wouldn't want to eat a lot of it at once, I will try dulling the intensity a bit with some other flavors

>>20550645
Alright tomato sauce works but it maybe works too well, soy sauce makes it worse but your best bet is soy sauce combined with tomato sauce
or probably even better just have it plain but in small quantities

>>20547864
Women don't figure things out, they need direct instruction to learn and older generations are providing less of that as time goes on

>>20550398

The people saying the rice cooker can cook better than doing it on a stove are just assuming since how would they know? They dont know how to do it with a pot. Yes maybe they tried once or twice and made mushy or al dente rice and concluded that its impossible. But remember that sushi masters before they are allowed to even touch the fish, spent 10 years just cooking rice! The philistines on 4chan dont have that kind of experience and refinement. How would they know what good rice tastes like to give an opinion?
I myself has spent the last 5 years or so honing my skills on the stove top. The difference is i dont do it everyday like the masters so i am still far from their level. Still i am confident i am better than all the simpleton on here who can only CONSOOM.
I might even write a book about it someday.

>>20550880
>>20550935
cope and inhale more of those stove fumes boy

>place stainless steel pot on scale
>weigh up desired amount of rice in pot
>weigh up correct amount of water in pot (1.5 times the weight of the rice)
>add salt
>put lid on
>get it to a boil
>turn the heat to low
>wait 20 minutes and do the rest of your cooking
>perfect rice everytime

The only thing these rice cookers do is turn the heat down once it reaches a boil. Otherwise the steps are exactly the same for basic pot method and advanced rice cooker.

>>20550940
Your $250 model will never cook as well as the $500 one. Better ask mr Shekelberg for that raise!

>>20547122
when you have a nice rice cooker, it's really easy to incorporate rice into your everyday diet.

I went from eating no rice at all to a bowl for breakfast and a bowl for dinner.
I make 3 cups of rice, and then it's on keep warm until I finish it, and if tastes as good on day 3 as it does fresh.

>t. Cuckoo 150 dollar rice cooker I got for 70.
I might try one of those 300 dollar ones but I dunno how much better it can get.

>>20550952
>I might try one of those 300 dollar ones but I dunno how much better it can get.
kek like nostradamus i am. You should save up for that $1000 model, it has touch sensitive buttons!

>>20550955
I work, anon.
the money I make is for spending, and I can't take it with me.

>>20550960
Btw eating 3 day old rice is disgusting imo.

>>20550955
people with disposable income spend it, correct.

>>20550963
that's just, like, your opinion, man

>>20550968
That fresh rice it makes must tastes terrible if it tastes exactly the same as 3 day old one.

>>20550972
it must, must it?
just because you need it to?

I know everyone's going to flip their foreskins but as someone who has owned a few rice cookers and even perfected my stovetop technique, this fucking thing is easily the best AND easiest rice maker out of all of them. Perfect rice every time, never burns at the bottom, only costs like $8 and t doubles as a storage/tupperware/microwave container.

I'm just not going back, not buying a shitty unitasker appliance that costs more money and takes up space again.

>>20550977
Imagine eating 3 day old rice on day 1! And having to pay top dollar for that pleasure! Must be nice!

>>20550987
you've run out of steam, kek.
take care man, have a nice day.

>>20550955
>>20550963
>>20550972
>>20550987
cope

>>20550990
Btw i am actually asian and everybody here owns a rice cooker but nobody eats 3 day old rice. Its unthinkable. The longest theyll go is to have last nights left over rice for breakfast, but no longer.

>>20547108
this, ironically, proves why you should never go for zojirushi unless you know fuck all about cooking.
Rice dishes tend to be on the cheaper side due to rice itself being dirt cheap. By your own reasoning and calculations, using a 'rushi at 3 times per week means you're probably increasing the price of making your own rice fivefold at best.

Ironically, the best min-maxxing techniques requires using the most basic of rice-cookers and a precise understanding of the water-to-rice ratio required for the type of rice you're using and how much starch you're rinsing off. All you need is a heating resistance that stops when it reaches temperatures upwards of 100°C. Anything else is redundant -for rice.

but the real reason why chinks and japs use advanced rice cookers is not because they inhale insane quantities of rice (they do, but it's usually takeout or outside, so in the end they don't make much rice at home and they'd rather make a huge batch and use the leftovers the next day) because they actually use rice cookers for everything from baking bread to cooking steak in a manner very similar to sous-vide, as well as steaming vegetables. The zojirushi being multifunctional helps a lot with that, and is more of a thermomix in that regard.

The only reason I could see someone buy a rice cooker, even a cheap one, is if they only have a 2-stove setup and don't necessarily want to have to juggle with them when a rice cooker can cook rice/potatoes safely without any oversight and save you a hot plate.

>t. lived in Taiwan and Japan for years with several gfs, all with the exact same rice cooker addiction

>>20546790
>I don't see you faggots waging wars over toasters
that's because nobody makes good toasters anymore.
if you want a good one you have to find a vintage Sunbeam and put a modern three-prong power cord on it.

>>20551003
Newest zojis have 36-48 hour keep warm modes.

>>20551163
Even if everyone in asia had top of the line rice cooker they still wouldnt eat 3 day old rice.
Some people (me included), when theres some rice left in the pot and we plan to eat it as left over for the next meal, will unplug the rice cooker. I dont know about other people but i find rice thats been on kept hot for hours to be gross and i prefer to eat it cold. Thats how its been done for thousands of years and im fine with it and prefer it.

>>20547122
chicken and rice is the quintessential body builder fuel.

I just use this recipe from ThatDudeCanCook for a perfect rice with no need for a dedicated rice cooker:
https://youtu.be/SvE30j3lEF4
the tin foil seal is not even necessary btw

>>20546509
I had to upgrade my $20 rice cooker to my saucepan during a move

>>20550940
Induction range (cringe I know)

>>20551003
it seems like a lot of boards have that one moderately expensive product that the 18yos don't have the money or space for, so no one can have one.
on /g/ it's macbooks/tablets, on /lit/ it's ereaders, I'm sure /ic/ hates Intuos or Wacom or whatever.

not to mention all the tards that misinterpret stoicism with asceticism, and think you're not supposed to have anything you actually like.

>>20551782
meant for
>>20546790

>>20551782
It's more when the retards try to justify a purchase like this as though it's some great economic boon for them. Sure, get one. It won't hurt me if it does hurt you financially. That said, it's still a bad idea for a lot of people who post here. The cheap ones work just fine. Sure, they don't have all the cool features, but they do the job. Don't fuck up your finances and you can afford one easily enough soon enough.

>>20550979
>microwaving plastic

you can't just make these blanket fucking statements, you don't speak for anyone.
>I totally don't care, but here's a scenario I literally just made up
no one, not a single living human, is putting themselves out financially in order to have a rice cooker.

you fucking weasel.

>>20552377
lolk

>>20549454
how did they surpass it? i like the way cuckoos look.

old faithful. good enough for m asian mom to use for 10+yrs, good enough for me

>>20554063
Based

>>20552350
It's high quality and designed to be microwove anon, it's perfectly safe

the $20 works almost as well, except.it tends to overcook the rice in the bottom and make it sick

>>20551309
>5 minutes on the boil
>10 minutes on low heat
>10 minutes with heat off
The point of rice cookers has never been to make "perfect rice". That title is clickbait, he knows it, and you should know it.

The point of a rice cooker is that it's a fire and forget device. You wash your rice, put the right ratio of rice to water depending on the type of rice you've got, and you let the rice cooker do its job until its sensor detect that the bowl gets too hot, meaning the water was boiled off.

OF COURSE a pot on a stove offers you the most control over your rice. You can put a lid, take it off, steam your rice and/or boil it but at the end of the day you still need an extra pot on the stove and you watching over it. It's not like they didn't know about steamed rice before rice cookers existed.

On the other hand, if you happen to live in a household that only has one portable wok/induction stove (common in Asia, for students, young couples, roommates, or single retards), that you just came home at 9pm and all you want is to take a shower after being repeatedly raped by your boss (figuratively and/or literally), you don't really give a fuck about whether your rice is "perfect", you just want it along whatever slop you've bought from the nearby 7/11.

I tend to do some meal prep during the week end so I don't have to bother with dinner. I just plop whatever protein i've made during the week end in the microwave, get the rice cooker going, and by the time i hit the shower i've got a perfectly decent meal awaiting me without me having to worry about burning anything. Besides, tweaking your rice to water ratio and tailoring perfectly to your type of rice can achieve results so close to that video that I don't even get the point of either buying a zoji or doing what that guy does.

>>20550562
>staring at the pan like a retard instead of preparing other shit on the meantime or just knowing the timings
lol
lmao even

>>20546528

any instantpot will cook standard short med or long grain rice in 4-6 minutes at high pressure at the same quality as the best "rice cookers" (which have pressure and infrared).

>>20546553

would buy a tatung over zojirushi every time. if price is identical still tatung.

>>20554365
>any instantpot will cook standard short med or long grain rice in 4-6 minutes at high pressure at the same quality as the best "rice cookers" (which have pressure and infrared).
Only tastelets that can't discern texture variance believe this.

Compare instapot rice directly to zoji rice, especially when using short grain japonica rice. If you ACTUALLY think the results are identical you should get your head checked.

>>20554375
he doesn't have a rice cooker.

>>20554365
>would buy a tatung over zojirushi every time. if price is identical still tatung.
Whys that?

>>20550949
bad methodology

>>20551003
>but nobody eats 3 day old rice. Its unthinkable
sorry, but i know for a fact this is simply not true.

>>20554401
Because he is autistic and hates nonstick with a passion.

Tatung features are dogshit, the only thing they do is a stainless steel inner bowl which is not worth the price when everything else about it is identical to a $15 rice cooker. I'd rather have a zojirushi or Cuckoo with tons of modern features.

>>20554414
>tons of modern features.
like what?

>>20554375
the zoj commercial cooker that (non-sushi) jap restaurant rice comes out of is just a 20 cup instant pot with 1 button. all standard varieties taste excellent from this machine. cooking glorious nippon 1000 variety rice with unique characteristics is another story.

>>20554401
built like a brick shithouse. people in taiwan are still cooking with units from the 70s. you can also just cook soups, stews, extend it into a steamer.

>>20546944
>>20547683

>>20554418
Different types of rice, rice porridge, bread or cake, oatmeal, etc.
>>20554425
No they've got high end commercial units in Japan that are far more than just a single button no-frills rice cooker. Pic related.

>>20554425
the black and red $700 rice cooker is hardly an uncommon site at japanese restaurants.

>>20554438
you're right, i was ignorant

i use non-stick daily btw

>>20554444
Quad quads
Based

>>20554438
Yup, they're just not imported to the US normally as the market for commercial high-end rice cookers isn't exactly massive in the US. Not to mention the regulatory approval and translation work they'd need to do.

I just bought a Neuro Fuzzy, what am I in for if I also only used pots and cheapo wallyworld cookers?

>>20554557
Make sure you buy decent rice. No point getting a $200 rice cooker just to put $2 bags of rice in it.

the stovetop works just fine if have the 80 IQ required to measure 2 quantities and set a timer.
I know that's a lot to ask.

>>20546509
this

>>20554365
The worst thing about Tatung is that it's not even an overengineered piece of crap, it's just a basic piece of crap with a zojirushi price tag on it. They're like the newer lenovo thinkpads.

Unless you're in taiwan and you're getting it at a yard sale/discount like everybody else, you're a dumbfuck and you deserve to get your money stolen.

>>20554953
have a snack, anon. your blood sugar is low.

How are you supposed to clean a rice cooker? I hate making and having rice because it's so tedious. Rice gets stuck to the bottom no matter what, and trying to clear that out without ruining the lining with steel wool or getting puffed up rice down the drain causing clogs is a nightmare.

>>20555026
lol wut

i cook rice

when im done eating the rice I turn it off and let it sit for 10-20 minutes with the lid open to cool the rice before putting it into a bag and throwing it in my fridge for fried rice later.

Then I just use warm water and a soft sponge to remove any rice starch residue remaining in the bowl.

Takes like 1-3 minutes of actual "cleaning"

>>20547108
>At 3+/times per week, a $250 rice cooker costs about $3 per use over 5 years
Check your math.

>>20555061
I have actual rice sticking to the bottom, and the only way to get it off without risking scraping off the "non-stick" shit is to let it soak. It's a simple cooker with no control besides cook vs keep warm.

>>20555026
Clean? Just make more rice in there, problem solved.

>>20555162
Ahh, I don't have those issues, I have an IH+Micom Zojirushi.

>>20546509
I got your pic related off of ebay for like $64 in 2018. totally worth it. I cook rice about 4 times a week though. Its very nice to set it up before work and come home to half my meal done.

>>20546509
Who eats so much rice they need a dedicated machine to cook it? Just throw that shit on the stove or in the microwave.

I like mine but am I supposed to add more water than usual when I add seasoning? Last time I assumed the dryness was because I didn't add enough water for the chicken I cooked in it, but this time I only used goya sazon and it still came out dry. When I do jasmine rice it comes out fine so I know it's not the cooker's fault.

>>20546509
Zojis are really great if you make rice on the regular and last fucking forever. Mine is going on 25 years, still works like new. If you don't make rice that much something cheaper is fine.

been using pic related for years and still makes perfect rice every time. any rice cooker over $30 is consoomer weeb bullshit

>>20549480
How many companies does cuckoo compete with in Korea?
Zojirushi competes with Tiger, Panasonic, Hitachi, Toshiba, and Mitsubishi

>>20555468
I have a similar model from the same company. That's the one rice always sticks to the bottom in.

gf uses a cheap rice cooker but always fills it up to the top with water and boils everything in it for like an hour

>>20551182
accurate

>>20556012

I was talking mad shit about rice cookers until I found one at the thrifty.
you all were right, the quality/effort ratio renders all other methods obselete, except in terms of price, which can be mitigated somewhat.

I won't eat my hat, but my words, absolutely.

>>20554596
agree

>>20546509
>I want to upgrade my small $20 walmart one that works pretty well already
Why do you want to "upgrade" a thing that is already doing its job? It's a rice cooker, what difference do you think it’s going to make?

>>20547135
I've heard people say many times that a greeting in some asian countries is literally translated as "have you eaten rice yet" but somehow no one ever dropped the trivia that in Japan, the words for breakfast lunch and dinner is literally like, morning rice, afternoon rice, evening rice.

>>20556184
Sorry I didn't finish my thought, I was going to say I only evebtually found out after trying to learn Japanese on duolingo and realizing what it said was dinner clearly had the word rice in it.

>>20547108
This and also I can tell you in a decade of consuming /ck/'s faggotry on this topic there are two widely accepted price points for S-tier rice cookers.
>The $20 special
>The $200 Zojirushi
ymmv but this is what the board consensus has been. With everyone trolling the other side while agreeing that everything in between is absolute dogshit.

>>20556527
Oh, yeah. And then there's the use-a-pot faggots who can't figure out why we use toasters. But they're an outlier in this discussion.

>>20546509
My $20 rice cooker always works perfectly too, but I still just make rice in a pot most of the time. Really don't understand the need to acquire so much tech for such a simple task.

>>20556553
More heat for your rice and less heat for the rest of your house.

>my $20 toaster always works too, but I still use my oven to make toast
every fucking time.

>>20556836
Yeah I don't see the problem with that. I have a toaster but regularly make toast in a pan

>>20557651
>hieroglyphics
https://youtu.be/qHqX6Vbt9SI?si=6WZnURWSbfay6lG8

>>20546509
I just bought one, price was completely insane. These things are legitimately about 10x the price of the cheapest rice cookers

I'm mostly hoping that it'll cook medium and short grain rice to the ideal texture without having to wash the rice

And also I'm hoping that takikomi gohan comes out really good in it

I'll come back after doing some testing

>>20557820
>without having to wash the rice
Lol

Buy Musenmai (rinse free) rice if that's what you want. The rice cooker won't help you.

>>20557988
man I hate washing rice
I'd get musenmai if it was around, I don't live in Japan rn

i have a 3 cup cooker that cost me 20 bucks and it makes rice (up to 3 cups!). not sure what all these fancy ones do

>>20557991
Just your rice in a fine mesh strainer and run water through it for 2-3 minutes while using your hand to agitate the rice grains.
It's barely any effort.

>>20547122
I eat rice almost 4 times a week and live in the south. It's mashed potatoes of side rice the other side has to be veg or fruit otherwise what am I doing with my life.

>>20549404
Only problem with crock pot is the cleaning but yeah they are good alternatives.

>>20558049
>>20549404
if the zojirushis are way easier to clean that seems like a big advantage honestly

Why the fuck are getting details on models so difficult

There's someone selling a NS-LLH05-XA but I can't find any info about it anywhere

>>20547684
Every woman has as least 1 catastrophic gap in what men expect to be common knowledge, whether it's metal utensils on rice cooker bowls, what the moon is, how a credit card works, whether ww2 or the civil war happened first, etc

>>20558423
>NS-LLH05
I believe that is a version of the NS-LHC05 but instead of 120v - 60hz electrical it's made for 220-230V - 50/60hz

They don't officially make models for Europe though so I'm not really sure where the NS-LLH05 is meant to be sold as it DOES have muti-language buttons which is rare as usually Zoji makes the models either Japanese OR English writing, not both.

But yeah, look up the NS-LHC05 to see the manual and shit.

>>20558451
>what the moon is
one girl i know with university and shit suddenly when we were walking to the village nearby noticed that the moon could be seen at day...
And she spends all the summer in the rural, she was not all year in the city. was a very what the hell moment

I just found out it was zou 像 (elephant) shirushi 印 (emblem)

the romanization they chose is so misleading, everyone ends up pronouncing it completely crazy as a result

>>20555061
>i cook

>>20558529
Zōjirushi is the correct pronunciation for 象印, look up what rendaku is.

>>20558529
>像 (elephant)
象desu
像=statue

I'm sure Mitsubishi rice cookers with Basmati cooking capabilities will soon be sold around the world.
Of course it can cook medium grain rice like jasmine rice.
Prices in Japan are $193 and $340

>>20558451
>whether ww2 or the civil war happened first
I honestly had to think about this one

>>20558903
not talking about the rendaku, I meant the wacky vowel phonemes they pick
>>20558981
wow I didn't even notice

>>20555468
>>20555929
This is more of less the free one I got but even a lesser known brand. Its great. I think you're doing something wrong if the rice is sticking.. I can let mine sit forever on warm and no stick. Left it all day and just got a thin 2 grain layer of crunch at most. You sure you got enough water, dude?

>>20557820
Okay I tried doing a really basic cook of 2 gou (I assume this is what the size of the cup that came with it is, it says 180mL in the manual which is about the right volume for a gou) medium grain white rice with nothing but rice and water. Also I washed it pretty thoroughly, I'll try not washing it one of these days to see how that goes as well.

It came out really nicely honestly. Medium grain calrose seems like it's almost good enough as a substitute for real short grain rice.

I'll try takikomi gohan next, what are some easy ingredients I could be using there

>>20560623
>I use terms like gou and gohan but I don't know how to flavor my rice
the worst type of weeb.

>>20560774
it's a japanese machine bro, even the text on it is japanese. Do you know what thread you're in? Not my fault the fucking cups are gous and not imperial cups

>>20554427
keck

>>20546790
why do the mum and dad look like siblings

>>20560795
>even the text on it is japanese
Not if you buy a north American market one.

>>20560795
Aren't the measurements just 100 grams/ml per serving

Its pricey. But it really does cook perfect set it and forget it rice with a timer you can set to be done at a specific time. We use ours couple times a week.

>>20560849
my machine is all gou for some reason

>>20546509
If the cooker is not made in Japan it's trash.

>>20560856
assembled*
Nothing is made in japan nowadays.

>>20560880
what are all the vietnamese and brazillian immigrant factory workers doing then

>>20560880
I'm sure some of the parts DO come from china, but the ones made in japan are at least MOSTLY japanese products, and it wouldn't shock me if Zoji had 100% made in japan models just to flex on chinks.

>>20560420
Any other romanisation system would wind up with an even less accurate pronunciation for English speakers. What would you even suggest? Zoozirusi?

>>20561343
if you split the zou and the jirushi apart with a space or something I think anglophones would get closer to the mark
I hear people say zowji - rooshy at the moment after all

A joke way to trick an anglo into saying it as close to right as they could probably manage would be to spell it zor-jiddushi, since that would get closest to making them use the vowels they're supposed to use and the dd would trick them into doing an alveolar flap when speaking quickly which is the same phoneme as the らりるれろ consonant, but they'd still fuck up the intonation and stress so you don't really win

>>20561416
>zowji
If "zow" rhymes with HOW, then this wouldn't happen anyway since the actual English name is Zojirushi, not Zoujirushi.
If "zow" rhymes with HOE, then that's unavoidable for American/British English speakers since that's just how the vowel phoneme is pronounced, as a diphthong.
>zor-jiddushi
Zor wouldn't be accurate for any rhotic English speaker, the dd wouldn't be accurate for any non-American English speaker.
At that point you may as well give up and just present the name as is. Ad hoc transcription schemes are subjective and suck ass 100% of the time.
I get that there's a myth about Japanese phonetics being simple, but you realistically can't expect anyone, let alone English speakers, to pronounce foreign words perfectly.

>>20557651
>NW-PH10E8-BZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIJiSaJD8IQ
12 year old Panasonic rice cooker vs.

Husband 5:11
Panasonic: sweet wins
Zojirushi: dry texture

Wife 6:26
Panasonic: rice is firm and fresh wins
Zojirushi: Rice is falling apart

Friend 8:11
Zojirushi wins

Mother 9:06
Panasonic wins

Father 9:06
Draw

>>20561466
>At that point you may as well give up and just present the name as is.
if there was an as-is to choose from then that would be great, but there's no such thing, unless you mean just giving up and not romanizing. If you mean hepburn or something you can't tell me anglos know what to do when e.g. they're presented with a letter that has a macron above it
>realistically can't expect anyone, let alone English speakers, to pronounce foreign words perfectly.
of course, but different romanization choices will still result in different pronunciation choice frequencies in the wild. If you did an experiment where you brought in thousands of English speakers and checked how they intuitively decided to pronounce loads of different romanized variations of a word, some of those romanizations would result in higher rates of those English speakers picking some phonemes over others. The romanizations are not all going to produce the same pronunciations all at the same frequency as every other romanization. If for some reason someone cared, they could empirically find a romanization that resulted in English speakers using whatever phonemes they're aiming for at a higher rate than the others. No-one would ever actually care enough to bother, but they could.

>>20561562
>if there was an as-is to choose from then that would be great, but there's no such thing
Actually there is. It's called choosing any of the romanisation schemes out there, because my point is that none of this shit matters because it is simply not possible to reproduce standard Japanese perfectly for every English speaker across all dialects.
Here we're only talking about the English side of things, you'd have to deal with a range of dialects and idiosyncrasies on the Japanese side as well.
>different romanization choices will still result in different pronunciation choice frequencies in the wild
I can assure you out of all the standard romanisation schemes out there for Japanese, Hepburn is the best choice for English speakers, but then you'll have to pick a suitable system for each language, which brings me back to my first point.
>some of those romanizations would result in higher rates of those English speakers picking some phonemes over others
Some phonemes are simply nonexistent in most English dialects. You'll never get an American or British English speaker to not naturally pronounce HOE with some variation of [ow]. On the other hand, I'd say I pronounce Zōjirushi fairly accurately because my local dialect has [oː] as the HOE vowel.

>all this pronunciation talk

Do they actually care if anyone outside of Japan pronounces it correctly or do they just care if it sells?

>>20561577
>I can assure you out of all the standard romanisation schemes out there for Japanese, Hepburn is the best choice for English speakers
In general that may or may not be true, but if you have a particular phoneme you want English speakers to use in a word, it's entirely possible that some other way will get them to use that phoneme at a higher rate than hepburn for that word. It necessarily isn't going to produce every single phoneme from English speakers at a higher rate than every other possible romanization scheme, that's literally impossible. Different romanization schemes will produce different frequencies of different pronounciations.
>Some phonemes are simply nonexistent in most English dialects.
Yeah but you might still aim for a particular approximation phoneme over another

>>20561582
no-one cares, not even me who's talking about it

>>20561584
You've tried but even in this situation the best you're going to get is Zojirushi, anything more "accurate" and you'd end up with something janky and retarded like Zoh Jeelooshee.

>>20561596
I mean until you run the experiment you don't know. I'm optimistic in the dd trick though, for whatever reason that's actually a pretty reliable way to make anglos do alveolar flaps across a very broad range of the most common dialects

>>20546509
>don't talk to me or my son ever again

>>20561496
Notice that everyone used to the 12 years taste says it won, while the friend who is not used to the 12 year taste says the zoji won. Reading the comments it seems like they've changed their mind after using it for a while.

>>20561611
>across a very broad range of the most common dialects
Which ones? As far as I know only North Americans regularly pronounce /d/ as a flap. You might hear it occasionally in British English speakers but that's rare.

>>20561635
Very common in Australia, NZ, Ireland, NA, and yes, some British dialects like West Country or Cockney, sometimes in RP
They all do the flap in e.g. 'ladder'

>>20561660
Thanks. I can now mock aussies more accurately.

>>20547108
>costs about $3 per use
You know that's enough to justify abandoning rice right. If I cut out the trash carbs and went straight to stir fry veggies it'd be healthier, cheaper and probably tastier.

>>20546509
I bought one of these despite my chinese mum claling me an idiot for spending a whopping $50 (second hand but mint condition) and even shes in love with it..

one glaring setback after having this is i now notice what bad rice is like when eating out, and thinking i could have had way better rice at home.

genuinely, every time i have rice at home, a couple times a week, i think 'man, i love this stupid machine'

>>20562678
>one glaring setback after having this is i now notice what bad rice is like when eating out, and thinking i could have had way better rice at home.
That's mainly only a problem at shitty Chinese places.

Also low-end indian food has some shit-tier rice sometimes too.

Nicer Chinese places have fantastic rice though, so it's clearly possible, most places just can't be fucked as the average person won't notice or care.

rice never turns out as good in a cooker as it does when i cook it on the stove

>>20562969
that's because boil in a bag rice doesn't work in a rice cooker.

>>20546509
Literally cost me $10 for a rice cooker I've been using since 2017
>>20564275
>>20564275

>>20560623
tried a takikomi gohan with my 3 cup (gou) (0.54L) zojirushi

realistically all I actually did was after washing 2 gou of rice and filling water up to the 2 gou line was dump a mini can of edamame that I had and chopped two onions into it, then added some soy sauce and aromatics.

I was surprised that when it was finished it expanded a lot more than I was expecting and came right to the top of the bowl, so maybe 1 or 1.5gou would be better if I'm going to add many other ingredients next time since it's such a small machine. The rice came out nicely but the flavour was pretty mild. It's going to take some experimentation for me to see what actually works the best for doing takikomi and similar recipes in a zojirushi. Will try some oyster sauce next time, and it'll probably also be worth introducing some fats, like a sesame oil or something.

>>20546509
I have a $30 one and it's fine. It cooks rice. I honestly think people who buy expensive ones are mentally unwell.

Travelers are exempt from taxes, so they can buy at a 10% discount.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xko3gXdtrd0

And there's a trick to get even more discounts...
It's to show the lowest price at another chain electronics store in the same city.
https://kakaku.com/kaden/rice-cooker/
If it's a chain store that has locations all over Japan, it's a sure bet.
>K's, Yamada, Yodobashi, Bic Camera, etc.

>>20560849
It's 150g roughly. I go be weight for maximum consistency and goodness of rice.

>>20547114
>an $80+tax+tip metal bowl
lmao lmao lmao

>>20546936
Just use an instant pot, that's what I make rice in. Best rice I've ever eaten too, stainless steel pot, and as a bonus it makes brown rice and wild rice in half an hour instead of 3+ hours.

>>20546790
>>20551108
toasters are for fags anyway. It's much better to slap the bread butter side down on a pan.

Are induction pressure rice cookers worth it? Barely used the steaming function in my current cooker.

>>20566526
nope

I just added canned tuna, canned corn, and vietnamese overly seasoned soy sauce to my rice in my zojirushi and it came out great. It sounds like it would be so basic and bland and yet I really like how it tastes. I'm very happy with it considering it took less than 15 seconds of my time to make and cost next to nothing.

I think I'll add some aliums next time, maybe also try adding some katsuo dashi. But I'm impressed at how good it is for how easy and cheap this is, rice cooker recipes are sick.

I added furikake to my last batch and I don't like how it changed the texture, I'm guessing the nori absorbed water.
just gonna season at the table, I guess.

>>20546509
the best rice cooker is a pot

>>20566788
That would be an affirmation of him.

>>20566811
Yea but he also thinks you need to spend 8-12 years learning to cook rice in a pot daily before you're ready to serve it to customers.

>>20566786
if it's just furikake then yeah, no point adding it early

>>20566813
Otherwise you guys can't compete with cheap rice cookers.

>>20566813
>>20566811
>>20566788
Donabe is infinitely better than an ordinary pot for short grain rice.

>>20546509
Not sure about that model but a good one gets you that "the rice cooks eggs" quality of cooked rice. Worth the money.

>>20566923
the rice cooks eggs...?

>>20566927
It's a meme ya dip!

How likely is it to get a rice cooker from the US through an airport to the EU?

>>20567154
Easy, it's not a restricted product or anything

It just won't work on EU electrics without a step up transformer.

>>20567160
And I guess it needs to be a more expensive one for 1430W?

>>20567216
Yea, 1500W would be $60-80 with 2000w+ being $100-150.

I'd opt for some headroom as the 1500W units might be 1500W from the wall, which means after steping down from 220v to 110v you might get some losses that would drop below the wattage you need.

>>20566835
Jiro uses a special HAGAMA and a stove.

How old is the NP-BQH10?

>>20567550
Amazon.co.jp first listed it in 2017.

>>20567310
Hagama or donabe compete for the best depending on what type of short grain rice you are using.

>>20567621
You are probably the ENBU & KAMADO-san bro that we always see in the rice cooker threads, right?
HAGAMA is for commercial use with a special stove, earthenware pots are for home use or small restaurants.

>>20567853
Rice autist. Been a while since I've been very active in rice cooker threads. I have a kumoi kiln donabe.

From what I've heard fancy Japanese restaurants will bring a donabe of freshly cooked rice out to the table for the guests to enjoy the aromas and freshest possible cooked rice. The best restaurants basically all use Kumoi kiln. Correct when you say small because their biggest size is around 6 go I believe.

Are there any LPG-powered rice cookers in the US?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OZtXuwkr1E
Any type of LPG can be used if you have knowledge of LPG

>>20567864
I'm surprised there were others who cook rice in earthenware pots besides him.
Perhaps a Japanese who has lived abroad for a long time?

>donabe of freshly cooked rice
The only people who would do that would be in a restaurant where they want to present a freshly cooked meal.
Or maybe a meal at a ryokan.
But in ryokans, more people use ohitsu than donabe.

>kumoi kiln donabe.
I've looked into it, and it seems to be more expensive than regular earthenware pots, but more durable.
I'm sure they can withstand the high heat stoves used in restaurants.

>>20567905
Just a white dude who likes rice lol.

Kumoi donabes are fully glazed, so you can apply full heat from the get go without risk of cracking. They are much thicker than average, so they hold heat super well also. I love the story and skill behind their production. The main dude there tastes the clay to know when it is ready to use hah.

When I was researxhing donabes I read about one instance where they were used at the table. I also saw a video of a dude making barside onigiri and he was using a kumoi donabe. Whenever I make sushi I always try to use it. Makes the whole ordeal that extra bit fun.

Recently I got an organic sun dried rice for the first time. Wakayama hinohikari. Very delicious.

Alright, I'll buy a rice cooker.
What's the best cheap one on Amazon? How's the Aroma one?

>>20568122
It's a rare Gaijin SAN lol

>Kumoi donabes
The price is 10 times higher than a typical donabe, so I want durability.
Donabe is basically used for cooking pots and pans, so many people have it.

>sun dried rice
Exactly!
As for pesticide-free or low pesticide, sometimes you can't tell the difference when you eat it, but only sun-dried makes a clear difference!
As long as the rice mills don't get the milling method wrong, it's perfect.
But wasn't the price pretty high?
Prices are pretty high in Japan, too.

>>20546944
>cute pigs

>>20546522
how do I do pot cooked rice without it being sticky and starchy? I can never get it right

>>20569471
wash it 5-6 times in a sieve til the water is clear. Use less water, don't salt it. Cook completely covered on the lowest heat for 20 minutes.

>>20569534
easier to just use the stove

>>20569437
please stop posting her on this board