/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>magically
it eventually spoils, just very slowly

>>20375103
botulism can still happen

Only the seam on the side of the can is welded. The top, and bottom are affixed with a double seam before pressure cooking. Cans used to be soldered shut on the side, often with lead, but once we noticed that this was making the boomers retarded we switched to welding, so most Gen X, Millenials, and Zoomers are safe from this avenue of lead exposure.

>>20375103
>Submerge a cucumber in seawater
>It turns into a pickle
Bullshit

>>20375103
What a fucking idiot lmao

>>20375103
>this raw meat is perfectly safe to eat
>but not that one
>or that one
>this one you can eat raw no problem though

It's all horseshit.

>>20375103
>put egg in fire
>egg explodes
>put egg in water
>put water in fire
>egg cooks
this always fucked with my head

>heat bread
>its still made of the exact same materials
>let it cool back down
>it still tastes different

>>20375122
Rate of spoilage depends heavily on the conditions the can is stored in, as well as what is stored within the can. Acidic foods will eat through the can for example, and wide variations in temperature can accelerate degradation of the food. Properly canned and stored food can last almost indefinitely.
>>20375124
Botulism is primarily a concern with home canning. Clostridium Botulinum is a bacteria that can only thrive in an anaerobic environment, such as within a sealed can, but will be killed as long as you heat the contents of the can sufficiently which is almost guaranteed with an industrial pressure cooker used in professional canning operations. Other precautions can be taken at home to ensure you don't have any risk of botulinum toxin forming, such as measuring the PH of your canned goods before sealing ensuring it is below 4.6 so clostridium botulinum and other bacteria cannot grow.

>>20375133
>fish is dangerous to eat raw
>except sushi which is fine
>no really bro trust me they did something to make it safe now pay them lots of money

>>20375144
are you even real?

>>20375103
>if you heat milk once it turns into curds
>if you heat it twice it turns into cheese

>>20375147
Flash freezing kills most parasites in fish that pose a risk for eating raw. That being said, I'm not a fan of sushi. I find it pretentious, and overrated.

>>20375103
>sugar makes something prone to rot
>putting lots of sugar in something preserves it

>>20375128
where is this vinegar sea you speak of?

>>20375124
>OMG MY FACE IS FREE OF WRINKLES HELP ME SATAN

>>20375148
Don't mix my post up with all the other posts in the thread, or else it will just become another anonymous post. Which it is.

>>20375103
>>20375128
>>20375133
>>20375139
>>20375141
>>20375147
>>20375156
>>20375161
I don't like the way this thread is making me feel.

>>20375158
I eat sushi with cooked fish only. I don't know why more people don't do that. It eliminates the main concern most of them have. Smoked or baked salmon, smoked tuna, boiled or baned crab, etc. It's perfect. I really enjoy sushi and its taste.

>>20375141
>melted butter on something
>wow its amazing
>cold hard butter on something
>meh its still good i guess

>>20375103
>claim that germs, bacteria and air exposure cause spoilage
>germs and bacteria exist on everything
>there is air in the can
>lol guys the food won't spoil even tho there is air, germs and bacteria inside the can

>>20375103
>add no eggs and your cake falls apart
>add an egg and your cake is thicker
>add two eggs and your cake falls apart

everyone here is just pretending to be stupid for the lulz right?

>>20375183
it just doesn't make any sense the more I think about it anon

there would be air inside the fucking can

do they remove all the bacteria somehow before they seal these millions of mass produced cans?

>>20375183
Wait, there are lulz?
What are lulz?
What can i do with lulz?

I once knew a girl(22) who thought that flies just came from trash.
No really...She was a high school graduate who believed in spontaneous generation...somehow.

>>20375103
>bag of yeast takes months to go off
>add it to a cake and it activates within hours

>>20375103
>put food in the ground
>it grows into more food
>put that food in the ground
>it turns into even more food

I never bought it for a second.

>>20375103
>take egg
>scramble it
>poach it
>fry it
>it tastes different
>its all the same egg

>>20375124
you're more likely to win the lottery than get botulism from canned food

>>20375147
the japanese who invented sushi already had invincible immune systems from surviving multiple childhood illnesses, it's us moderns who have delicate tummies

>>20375187
If I locked you in a tiny room with no way for air to get in or out, how long would you survive in there?

>>20375304
Me? Not very long. But I'd assume my body would still decompose and rot.

Because it's full of bacteria.

>>20375231
>Take egg, add heat
>it comes out dry and sticky

>Take rice, add heat
>Add egg to heated rice
>The heat of the rice cooks the egg without drying it out

>>20375139
the heat of the water cooks the egg

>>20375425
Why didn't the heat cook the egg? Why do you need to add water which usually makes things colder to make it hotter?

>>20375103
>add no salt to water
>food is fine
>add salt to water
>food is more moist
>add too much salt to water
>food dries out

>>20375438
the water is a medium used to transfer the heat from the fire to the egg, the fire on its own is too powerful for the egg

>>20375103
>use X heat for Y hours
>food is fine
>use 2x heat for 0.5y hours
>food is burned
>same amount of energy went in

>>20375139
fire is hotter than water

>>20375444
>>20375446

So why didn't the fire cook the egg? The same amount of heat went into the egg. In fact, more heat would go in through convection than the mere surface area of the egg exposed to fire.

>>20375448
Because the fire is way above the boiling point of water so the water inside the egg turns into steam. Only a tiny amount of steam is needed for the egg to explode and the egg doesn't have time to cook before that happens.

>>20375448
you can bake an egg you just can't bake an egg at 1000 degrees

>>20375103
Let's get it out onto a tray...
>hissssssss
Nice!

>>20375139
Water can't get hotter than the temperature at which it shifts the state of matter + a couple degrees K/C, tops. (This does not take into account parts of the egg touching the metal vessel in which the water is heated.)

This is how you can boil water in plasti containers in a fire as the water also limits and retards the temperature shift of the vessel it is contained in.

You can read more about it if you study the concept of "enthalpy" (part of the broader subject of thermodynamics), and, more broadly, also, fluid dynamics. The wikipedia articles are so-so, but if you have access to a university library login you might be able to get access to Enrico Fermi's book on thermodynamics which contains really great portions on enthalpy and is not very difficult to consume with some other aides, even for beginners.

>>20375739
**And still retain its state, it should be added, although maybe obvious.

>swallow cherry tomato whole
>comes out unrecognizable in poop
>swallow peas and corn whole
>comes out unchanged in poop
????

>>20375731
The fact that he is still alive has given me to motivation to attempt indian food

>>20375231
>take clear egg substance
>aggressively punch it with a spoon
>it turns into a fluffy paste
Scientists will pretend its not fucking magic

>>20376850
akshually, its good question, does you stomach manage to break down tomato skin chemically, or it just gets crushed with pressure?

>>20375731

>>20377144
You're a retard.
No one uses spoon.
You use whisk or fork if sol. You're adding air

>>20377151
Chemically

>>20375147
>Thinks sushi is served fresh out of the water with no treatment to kill parasites and other pathogens
>Laughingsluts.tiff

>>20375103
Did you know many of these canned foods have added dihydrogen monoxide? This stuff is present in alcohols and venom too. Stop ingesting dihydrogen monoxide. Aka kys.

>>20375103
You missed a step.

>put food in metal cup
>weld metal cup shut
>heat can to pasteurize contents
>food doesn't spoil

>>20375103
I don't get these weird retard-posts. Is OP a troll, or actually dumber than a bag of shit?

>>20375103
>i sure love eating this cow that was violently slaughtered
>what the heckerino are you eating a dog?!
cows are smarter than dogs you carnists are idiots

>>20375127
that seal doesnt look very tight
i can see gaps

>>20378482
Little of column A.
Little of column B.

>>20378524
Have you considered the fact that I know this, but I simply don’t care?

>fry up a ribeye and eat it while piping hot
>it's delicious and rich
>put it in the fridge and eat as leftovers tomorrow
>it tastes like dollar store meat

>>20375103
>>20378623
>heat rice
>tastes good
>heat it again
>poison somehow

>>20378524
I know this is bait, but
>1
Most people who aren't TV-brained retards don't care if you eat dog as long as its raised and slaughtered humanely.
>2
Slaughter of cows is quick and mostly painless. In factory farm abbatoirs its stressful as hell for the cow but thats a problem with factory farming, not slaughter.

>>20378650
Hey, abbatoir tech here. Actually it's almost entirely stress free. The most stressful thing for the cows is that they are in a new environment, but if a raiser has transported them a few times they don't really care. We can tell when the animals are stressed.

Stressed carcasses will retain higher PH, resulting in dark meat, which is basically impossible to sell. So we actually go out of our way to make it as stress free as possible for the animals. It is in our best interest to make it non stressful.

Some groups are now beginning to return to dark meat loss sales though, they argue that financially it's worth it to take a hit to the value of the meat to process it more efficiently. There I would agree with you.

>>20378914
Sincerely thank you! I wondered why my dad's buds meat tasted funky and was so dark.
Any other knowledge to drop?

>>20379025
Yeah do not use the CBP on your thigh unless you want a doctor to yell at you about how retarded you are.

>>20379034
Negro, very sincerely,
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>20379034
>>20379043
What the fuck is CBP and why would it go on my thighs?

>>20379043
>>20379044
Captive Bolt Pistol or what people usually call a cattle gun. It's the thing that kills the cow. Don't shoot your leg with it no matter how much people tell you to do so.

>>20375163
On the Worlds Edge mountains.

>>20379051
Your poor leg!! :[
Is there any lasting damage?

>>20378524
I actually think its nigh time when promoted dogs to cattle status and started eating them. Dogs used to be useful household companions, helped to guard the house, hunt, herd livestock, but they dont do any of this shit anymore. Dogs are now just fashion items and baby replacements for antinatalist liberals, even worse so, we crossbreed dogs into tiny, barely functional ugly breeds like animal version of bonsai, its disgusting. Instead we should breed massive fucking cow-sized dogs for consumption.

>>20375163
the vinegar sea is what we call your moms vagina

>slaughter cow and eat its flesh
>perfectly fine
>take out dick and cum on cow
>sent to jail

>>20375139
>>put water in fire

>>20375407
fuwamoco's face cheeks sandwiching my erect penis

>>20379411

>>20379421
i love this stupid image you posted. made me laugh. thanks. :)

>>20379262
Just a little chunk missing.

>>20375168

>>20378524
effetivamente non me ne frega un cazzo

>>20379051
>use bolt gun on my leg
>doctor yells at me for being a retard
What gives?

>>20375187
>do they remove all the bacteria somehow before they seal these millions of mass produced cans?
They kill the bacteria after sealing the can by heating to very high temperatures. This process is known as "canning."

>>20379391
>fucking cows