/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I'm drinking the autumn naka black and I'm having mixed feelings.
The description is spot on. It's light, fragrant tea that won't offend anyone.
The endurance is above average when it comes to black teas and the price isn't bad at all.
That being said, I'm not vibing with it.
I really miss the chocolate and sweetness that I usually associate with black teas.
This one is more in the direction of oriental beauty than a lapsang let's say.
Basically my preference is a Sacher cake in a cup, strong chocolate+apricots burst of flavour.

>>20370462
Im not really sure what differences in processing there are between a fully oxidized black tea and a fully oxidized oolong that makes them taste different. But there is definitely a huge range in how blacks come out seemingly dependent on processing.
Ive been drinking the cheap autumn yingpan shan and this year's is kinda weird, it's got a bit of a sour kind lactic acid taste going on that i didn't notice in the 2022 version.
Looking at the listing for the naka im a bit confused.
>This one was given a high amount of oxidation, which means it is on the lighter side
I thought black teas were all mostly fully oxidized outside of stuff like first flush Darjeeling?

>>20370462
Shai hongs are kind of different to your usual chocolqty dianhongs

>>20370480
>I thought black teas were all mostly fully oxidized outside of stuff like first flush Darjeeling?
I thought so as well. I thought the lightness is associated with the degree of roast.
That being said I've had gaba black sample where I could see the roast but didn't taste it at all.
It was really sour, no roasted notes or anything that would indicate that it is black tea.

Which teas should I get from Seven Cups?

>>20370505
Ask if they have any new greens in yet

>>20370505
Maybe try this traditional tgy, you don't see em like this often.
https://sevencups.com/shop/chuantong-tieguanyin-traditional-tieguanyin-2022/
Also their 2022 yancha is on sale, for yancha the age is maybe even a benefit so worth considering.
They have some nice looking hibiscus flowers.
Beyond that i think seven cups is best for splurging on rare fancy teas like super premium greens or yellow teas,
Maybe some of this black tea
https://sevencups.com/shop/zui-chun-fang-drunken-peach-black-tea/

What does the market look like for value darker oolongs? Are they cursed to always be expensive?

>>20370603
For dark taiwan oolongs teahome is your friend. They aren't going to have that charcoal roast flavor of chinese oolongs but they offer teas with a good level of fermentation and a satisfying rost. I recommend the legend of tung ting, either the regular or special charcoal roast both have that nice baked goods flavor.
https://www.teahome.com/product/upteah/
The roasted version of this is good as well.
https://www.teahome.com/product/ao202700/
Haven't tried their "dong ding oriental beauty" but it's probably good too.
https://www.teahome.com/product/natea-2/
For dark well roasted tgy, im still looking for a good value tea that performs highly. I got some from purple cloud that was great but $30 for 100g.
For wuyi oolongs / yancha king tea mall seems like the best bet, i haven't tried their yancha yet but they have some cheap and mid priced offerings that look pretty promising.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/wuyi-yancha

>>20370619
Also some other posters have tried the king tea mall yancha and liked it.

If you are feeling lucky ktm also has this broken leaf da hong pao that is $5 a kilo.
It's probably too cheap to be very good but it's there. Shipping will cost way more then the tea.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/wuyi-yancha/products/spring-shui-xian-a-grade-medium-heavy-roasted-wuyi-yancha-oolong-tea?variant=44489748250854
For the people that were discussing this last thread this listing has stock, i guess there were two separate ones and the other one is mostly sold out.

>>20370416
Drinking some good ripe and it's super nice. Way better than the cheap ripe I have had before.

>>20370619
>>20370620
>>20370631
thanks anon I decided to go with KTM over teahome partially because the shipping is easier to understand and partially to try the broken leaf da hong pao for the lulz

>>20370737
oh dear god I just realized that I accidentally ordered 2x 300g da hong pao, what the hell am I going to do with that much tea

>>20370747
I've got a 200g bag of random da hong pao on my desk and it's pretty fuckin big.
The drink 20g da hong pao a day for a month challenge begins

>>20370737
Nice, let us know how it goes
For teahome they shipping is a bit annoying but it's not bad, when you checkout you select the shipping option instead of local pickup.
Then he emails you with a total including shipping and links to a payment service, kinda like a Taiwanese paypal invoice.
Shipping was about $12 for 500g and about $15 for 750g.

>>20370747
Boil it, something like 12g in 2.5 liters, maybe 15g.
Or get a big insulated bottle and just grampa brew a fistful at a time.

>>20370603
>>20370619
>https://www.teahome.com/product/upteah/
Just wanna say this is a really good tea and I'd say has a nice roasty charcoal note imo, maybe not to the level of a wuyi, but still very good, especially considering the price

>>20370148
>>20370369
I think the Bangwai would make a great token soft sheng cake to have around. but Fa Zhan He and Autumn Lao Man E were definitely my favorites so far

>>20370900
Did you get the selected charcoal roasted version or the standard version?
I thought both were good, the standard version is a bit more fermented and very smooth, the special version is a bit more complex but i honestly might prefer the standard.

RIP dimah anon

>>20371084
yorkshire sent a hit squad after them

My White2Tea order came in today. The Moon Waffles are legit. Wish I could've got a cake.

>>20370631
$5 kilo HAS to be trash

2011 Mengku Grade 3 Ripe Pu-erh tea Mini Tuo Cha
One Tuo, 150ml hot water, 20 minutes steep. Tasty. Rich. Cherry. but no tartness. slightly sweet. Thicky. Very small amount of woody astringency. its cheap and easy, dont have to break up a tea cake to make a cup.

Am I understanding wash steeps correctly? Here's what I've gathered.
>No wash: greens and very light oolongs (e.g jade tie guan yin)
>Wash steep: White, black, raw+ripe puer, dark oolongs:
However sometimes I see videos where someone washes a dragonwell and sometimes I see a video where someone doesn't wash a puer. What the hell is correct?

>>20371863
Whatever you feel like
When you watch videos people will frequently do a long first "wash" to skip the first brew ti get into the heart if the tea flavor faster so they can talk about it. Tea dealers and people that taste lots of teas tend to do this.
Typically i suggest doing a brief rinse if tea is dusty, if its old puer and the cake has some random debris in it, or if you are drinking a funky ripe and want to get past the weird funky notes. Otherwise it's not necessary.

Is pu-erh supposed to taste like tea with fish in it?

>>20372097
Shou is, yes. That's why all the pu-erh lesbians here only drink aged sheng they steal from KTM's warehouse

>>20372097
Lol some cups i drink sometimes do lol

Drink more lao man e

>>20371863
Don't take it too seriously.
For me rinses are just for getting the leaves open, I like to rinse and leave it to sit in the gaiwan with the lid on a couple minutes.

>>20372097
Shit stuff does

im just getting into tea. I got a blueberry green tea, a strawberry green tea with orange peel, current, rose petal organic marigold and cornflower
and a 3rd strawberry white tea with apple, rosehip organic murta guava rose and vanilla
did i choose well for my first teas?

pic related is the tea haul

>>20372352
Top tier. Let us know how you like them.

Hella /tea/, my gf brought me some white tea cake from china. How should I drink it?

>>20372390
Through your esophagus

Is there any downside to grandpa brewing?

>>20372416
+convenience
-nuance

>>20371628
imma be saying this same thing in like a week when my order comes in i bet, i got a little 25g thingy of the waffles

>>20372352
im not a big fan of flavored teas and i think its likely to give you a warped impression of what tea is like if you ever decide to drink anything unflavored. flavored tea is not really the norm but if thats the only thing you like then i guess just drink that.
>>20372390
you can just get a mug and fill it with boiling water and drop a quarter-size chunk in there. if you want to strain it out then leave it in there for like a minute or two and strain or leave it in for a few seconds and strain and then repeat that several times.

>>20371863
do whatever you think tastes best. i find that usually only cakes need a wash really and thats only to open it up, and i drink that anyway. you should probably just drink the wash as a regular steep unless the leaves are from questionable orgin imo, but that doesnt mean i think the wash will always be as good as the later steeps, its just that something 'needing' a wash ist a pointless disctinction in most cases when you can just treat the wash as a normal, prolonged steep (which is what youre probably doing anyways if youre doing longer intial steeps and then shorter steeps once the tea has opened up).

>>20371628
Glad you like it! I've been shilling the 21 since late 21 apparently. I'm no white tea afficionado but its been a real nice occasional sipper. Something to break out of the winter ripe habit before fresh greens.
>>20372431
Just saw all 3 pressings are out of stock now. RIP. Anon last thread said Karst sucks but maybe theres another cheapish gem sitting around. The 16cent/g gongmei maybe.

>>20372508
>>20371628
I'm also sad Moon Waffles is sold out. I heard good things about the Nightlife cake, maybe it'd make a good replacement.

>>20371863
I just do it for everything compressed, fermented or aged

>>20372097
that's what bad shu pu-erh tastes like

>>20372390
boiling water is fine. the leafy white teas tend to be easy to brew, they don't really get bitter. some people even boil them on the stove

Anon who mentioned Del Cebador mate last thread (or anyone else), do you have another suggestion for a greenish mate like that? I can't find it in stock anywhere.

>>20372352
try some unflavored tea next time. flavored stuff can be very hit or miss and good tea doesn't really need flavoring anyway

Enjoying 2023 Fa Zhan He western style today, since I'm in the office and too lazy for a full gong fu session.
I've done some experimentation over the past month and ended up at
9g per liter, 85°C, 5:00
When brewing hotter it gets too bitter.

You don't get the nice flavor progression as in gong fu but it certainly works for me. Still keeps its essence - very enjoyable tea, not bitter, mild but pleasent astringency, tea high is kicking strong.
Have a good weekend everyone

>>20372841
I'm guessing there's some other Uruguay market mate that's similar
the greener Argentinian ones like Cruz de Malta or Kraus also make good summer yerba mate for me. I like to do terere with just a small sprig of fresh mint, the easiest and most convenient cold brew out there

>>20372317
the Autumn one from FL makes the perfect daily drinker for me. real intense wake up kind of flavor
today is a Naka day though

>>20372864
are you the guys from the fl discord? seems to be a popular topic right now. how does the lao man e compare to the naka? ive only had the naka and its probably my favorite raw ive had from fl.

>>20372852
Thanks. A lot of the ones readily available here seem to be Argentinian for some reason. I'll try out the Cruz de Malta.

And so it begins

>>20372869
nah I'm not on discord
the Naka I'm drinking is actually from cspuerh and not FL.

cspuerh Naka:
>apricoty
>really intense, sweet fruity-floral aroma
>strong minerality
>sharp, short bitterness
>cooling aftertaste

FL autumn lao man e:
>not fruity, more savory
>leathery, heavy, musky aroma
>also strong mineralilty, almost salty
>longer lasting bitterness

so they're pretty different

>>20372908
thanks for the tasting notes. those salty raws are always interesting to me; the jingmai miyun i also thought had a very strong saltiness.

Gonna yerba it up today

>>20372923
Forgot pic. Actually drinking Kraus right now, though I usually prefer Paraguayan.

>>20370747
This, ladies and gents, is how a cat smiles.

Third taobao haul. Not too much stuff, just some ripe, liu bao and a changtai sheng cake.

Summer is going to be here in a few months. It's too hot to drink tea normally and I make myself cold tea or iced tea or however you call it.
I make a 2 litre batch and then pour extra lemon and some honey into it. One of these usually lasts a day or two.
Anyone else have good ways to go about making cold tea?

so I ordered some "Lao Cong Shui Xian Dan Cong Oolong" from some sketchy site and chatGPT says that's an implausible combination of terms, did I get scammed?

>>20373055
Do you live in China? If not, what do you use to forward shipments from Taobao?

>>20373275
I've used both Superbuy and Pandabuy. Big differences between them that i've found:
1) I feel like Superbuy's exchange rate is a bit cheaper.
2) Pandabuy includes every box in the final parcel, and they also include a lot (and i really mean a LOT) of bubble wrap, which increases volume, thus shipping costs.
3) Pandabuy will ship with both EMS and SAL, while Superbuy ships tea to me only with EMS.

>>20373173
Not really, should be the same as this i suppose.
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/old-tree-shui-xian-varietal-dan-cong-oolong-tea-from-feng-xi-1

>>20371863
Never rinse Japanese greens, other than that there is a lot of subjectivity. I always rinse shu puer though.

>>20373173
ChatGPT is really bad with tea and it just makes shit up all the time

>>20372869
>how does the lao man e compare to the naka?
This is the 23 fall lao man e and the 23 spring naka small trees
Both are solid, lao man e is more punchy, naka has a much stronger aroma high pitched is a good description. Naka still has some bitterness but it turns sweet faster. Naka has a hint of smoke in the background but nothing dominatnting or even that prominent.
Both are great, based on the speed test i finished my naka cake first but the lao man e wasn't far behind.
Can't go wrong with either

>>20373055
Nice, looks fun

>>20373169
There is a recipe linked in the rentry for making strong cold brew. As is it's probably designed for adding ice when you pour it but if you like strong tea its solid. If it's too strong as is you can just use a bit less tea.

>>20373055
>changtai sheng cake
Those old chantai shengs are interesting, they run the gambit from super cheap and smokey to pretty nice. What is it specifically? What year?

>>20373503
Should be this, but third batch instead of 1st.
https://kingteamall.com/en-ro/collections/sheng-puerh-raw-tea/products/2006-changtai-long-ma-rui-ming-dragon-horse-ruiming-cake-400g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-chacha
I bought this cake out of curiosity. It;s quite hard finding okay-looking vendors on taobao that sell aged puer that hasn't been in dry as fuck storage and for 138 yuan, i thought "Sure, why not?".

>>20373570
Interesting. I'm the other taobao anon that bought bunch of xiaguan raws, both young and old and kinda lost all interested in taobao desu.
The cakes I've got are decent but they aren't better value than FL samples I've tried.
Might as well take the FL pill which is less of a hassle and same/better value.

Any rosehip enthusiasts here? I'm considering picking some up; never worked with it before. Is it one of those that needs to be simmered, or can I brew it like a normal tisane? If so, anything you recommend blending it with?

>>20373429
maybe it's because tea merchants selling to westoids just repeat what they heard from "some guy", like remember when "bazombo trance music" was supposedly a genre from the great underground music scene of kinshasa, and all the music poseurs were like "oh yeah my favorite genre is bazombo trance"? and then it turned out to be just some random phrase someone used to describe one album from one band and until they got busted everyone just acted like they knew about the whole bazombo trance scene all along? it could be something like that

>>20373650
Ive had a few blends with rosehip in it. Its spicy. I enjoy it. Brews findle normally, i didn't have any need to simmer it. I guess you could pair it with some mild stuff like oatstraw and nettle, maybe tulsi/holy basil, chamomile. Not sure if it would jive well with mint

I only have about 2 pounds of loose leaf tea left! gonna get some ground coffee to make cold brew now that the summer heat is upon us. Is there a coffee that is better for cold brew than others?

>>20373173
Use babelcarp.org
It checks out fine to me,
Old tree, single bush, water sprite, dancong oolong.

>>20373704
Ask /ctg/

>>20373711
oh okay. Is there a good tea to make cold brew?

>>20373720
https://www.amazon.com/KBOUS-Fine-Black-Loose-16oz-454g/dp/B06VY6J1WQ/

>>20373720
>>20373725
Actually this is probably better for cold brew, the al kabus is tea dust, this is big leaves
https://www.amazon.com/Alwazah-Triple-Traders-Loose-Ceylon/dp/B07DZ4M75Z/

>>20373725
pass

>>20373720
>>20373731
Okay
https://dragonteahouse.biz/xiaguan-brand-dian-hong-yunnan-black-tea-300g/

>>20371081
sorry for late reply but I got the standard version

>>20373773
I just had some this morning, good stuff

Dragon tea house has a 200g 2023 xiaguan yunnan white tea for $25.
Not cheap, but maybe worth trying.
https://dragonteahouse.biz/xiaguan-brand-yue-guang-bai-yunnan-high-mountain-white-tea-cake-200g/

Received my order from tea-experts.net
I got a lot of goodies. And as requested he put in the extra cake to compensate for my free shipping since I placed 2 orders which in total exceeded the free shipping margin.

>>20374321
Let us know how the commiecha is, I was thinking about picking some up for shits and giggles

>>20374339
That guys gaba tea experiments are interesting, fun to try, not something i was in a rush to buy.
Nice commie cakes

Trying the 2023 Prosbloom mini from White2Tea, just grandpa-style in the cup. I don't know much about tea compared to many here, so my notes might not be worth anything. I can taste the charcoal smoke at first, and it's a tad bitter, but it fades to a sweetness on the tongue that's actually quite nice, even honey-like as it lingers. Smells a bit like tinned sardines. Has an earthiness. This is my first proper shou pu-erh and it's interesting to experience.

>>20374560
I swing between like and dislike when it comes to Prosbloom. I got a few with my Shulloween bag last year. There's something unique about it but I can't quite figure out what it is. Like a dark fruit sweetness more than a bright crisp one. It's pretty subtle, though. Nothing wrong with it as a daily drinker, but I prefer it as an occasional puzzle I have only a few more attempts to really understand. Thanks for the writeup.

>>20374321
>tea-experts.net
this isn't the correct website, where did you get it?

>>20374620
https://tea-expert.net
Its a Chinese store run by a Chinese guy on an island in southern china but i guess he is a massive russiaboo or something since his site is only in Russian.

>>20374819
he sounds like he tongues nigger anus

>>20372416
some teas aren't great for it due to how bitter or astringent they become, but generally it's a pretty great way to get a lot of brews out of the same leaves in my experience

>>20373055
does all liu bao have the strong wet dirt taste? I tried some awhile back and couldn't get past that

>>20374856
>some teas aren't great for it due to how bitter or astringent they become,
and this is when you add milk and it becomes delicious.
Drink 7 grams of ripe puerh boiled in about 200 ml water for 7 minutes with milk.

>>20374819
>but i guess he is a massive russiaboo or something since his site is only in Russian.
Chinese tea has long been popular in Russia because of trade proximity to China. They have a stronger tea culture than most of the west. It should not be surprising that there are tea vendors vendors that cater to the region.

sex with tea

>>20374560
I tried another new tea (to me.) These are the experiences of someone who's drank many teas, but is only now learning more about them beyond the basic types and so on, so my notes might not be of use to people who have more experience or knowledge.

I tried White2Tea's Dancong Oolong Chatou, because I was curious what the quality of such a stem-y tea would be like. The package has a nice dry woods-y smell when opened, like a crisp fall day (rather than the wet leaf smell of the shou pu-erh I tried earlier.) The soup is clear and almost transparent, but when you drink it, it isn't at all thin. The taste is nectarines, or the liquid from inside a can of mandarin oranges but more tart (I know those are also nectarines.) It's a bit dry, and it lingers in the mouth for over a minute at a time. More floral, to me, it doesn't taste like licking a rock as some oolongs do.

I have a huge mug of it (I am a lazy grandpa-style brewer) and I am going to go have to make more in a second because it's almost gone. I'm going to have to buy more of this I think. To me, it's very drinkable (especially for the price,) but it might be too one-note for others.

>>20374577
It's very forward to me, and when I first take a sip for a moment I'm like "oh, that's a bit much!" But then I keep drinking it. I make another mug with the leaves. I don't know if I like it or not, but I do know that when I finally retired those leaves I had a weird craving for it the next morning. It's an interesting tea.

>>20375925
to me it tasted like popcorn and seaweed. try the three spot guanyin

>>20374577
Don't suppose you're in the UK. I've got a bunch of the minis and not a fan of them, I'd happily post them out to someone.

Bros, is there a way to know how hot water is for steeping without investing in a specialized kettle?
Recently I've been getting into yerba mate and it asks for 60-65°C water. I already have an electric one but it doesn't tell the temperature.

>>20376095
you can buy a seperate thermometer, they are cheap
for 60-70 degrees water you can also just jam your finger in there. if it doesn't burn, it should be okay to go. you could also get a feel for how much time it takes for the water to cool down enough

>>20376095
I held an instant read thermometer in a normal kettle for like three years before I bought one of them schmancy temperature set kettles. It works the same way. You should have an instant read thermometer for cooking either way, they cost something like ten bucks. If you use the same kettle you can start to tell by the sound, traditionally people used to use the size of the bubbles, both of these are pretty accurate, actually.

Is it just me or is the naka small trees really similar to fa zhan he?
Granted my water is hard and tongue fucked from drinking all of these raws but both to me seem similar.
Both are fun little punch with some sweetness.

>>20376197
i thought the fa zhan he was a bit darker like almost the depth youd expect from a ripe, with the intial steeps being a lot like lychee before the intensity fades down and it becomes more light and relaxing, the naka small trees to me has almost a latex or plastic smell and taste with a bit more bitterness and astrigency but is much more heavy in the lychee flavor. i havent had both of these teas in like a month, these are the observations i made in my tea journal. both were good but i liked the naka small trees more. these differences are not ginormous its just that im looking for differences and this is what i could find.

>>20374339
"Lova Shu GABA Puerh" sample
Dark chocolate taste, with a pleasent muddiness, like stale lake water, no fishy aromas, slight bitter aftertaste. Pleasant, albeit not very "complex" tea. Tastes better than some of the improperly stored Haiwan/Tae Shu cakes I had. Like it

>>20374422
I guess it's similar to the sampler I just tried. They are still very young, so I want to give them some proper aging with a boveda pack and humidity control.

I just just can't seem to discern any major differences in the shu teas I tried so far. They all taste kinda similar to me. And if this young often taste "fishy".
>>20374321
The rectangular bricks are shou.
The two cakes are the only sheng ones which, this young, are not enjoyable at all in my experience. Just too astringent.
So please pardon me for not being able to report on the commie mass murder glorifying puerh cakes.

>>20376060
Thanks, but I'm not.

>>20376318
hmmm... ya slight vanilla aftertaste. more steeps bringin out rhe subtler notes

>>20376197
I didn't get the same intensity of citrus notes with the naka as i got with the fa zhan he. I found the naka to be more in the direction of floral. I also think the naka was more bitter. That said the naka also has a summer of that traditional stuffed in sacks in the farmers house over his hearth storage which introduced some smoke and some more roundness / smoothness to the leaves vs how they would have been in they were pressed in the spring and stored in a dry warehouse.

>>20376318
Damn i didn't get any of the gaba shu, just black and oolong, based on how those tasted i think the treatment would be more suited for shu.

>>20376342
>I just just can't seem to discern any major differences in the shu teas I tried so far. They all taste kinda similar to me. And if this young often taste "fishy".
Yes, im not saying shu all tastes the same but it trends to go in a few different directions with minor tastes differences between batches.
Shu is usually made with bush tea from plantations instead of nicer leaves and when it's made with the fancy stuff its expensive.
Outside of people trying some w2t cakes you won't see a lot of discussion about expensive shu here, the value proposition is tough.
Shu is nice for cold weather, rainy days, when you want to drink some tea that's easy on the stomach.
My personal advice is to explore other fermented teas, i find liu bao scratches the same itch with more chocolate and less fish. I also enjoy a nice fu brick of basket of liu an.
I guess if you wanna be convinced shu can be excellent you can get a 100g sample of this stuff that's 40¢ a gram. It still has a bit of fermentation funk but it tastes like german black forest cake with cherries.
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/00135-mengku-bojun-2020?page=2

Im drinking fake biluochun i got from ebay. I should mention that the seller is now banned, so hopefully it's not giving me too much lead

>>20376756
are you the same anon that always has goyslop on his computer

>>20376784
No. I dont go on 4chan much. Too much of a discordfag nowadays honestly

I can't stand beeping, especially on my kettle. I opened up the bottom and put a wad of superglue inside the speaker plus a little mountain on top. Didn't change the timbre, but did cut the volume significantly. Easy to do, very worth it.

Tried the w2t Firebat again after a couple of months. Worse than I remember. First few times I had it, I thought there was some flavor under the smoke. Now all I taste is the smoke (and a bit of burnt meat I guess).

Trying to think of some ways to make it more palatable. Maybe really long rinse/first brew then discarding it before brewing as normal? Or I'll toss it in a spice grinder and use it a dry rub.

>>20376843
I disliked Alienist myself. These smoking and roasting experiments seem to be hard to pull off without overpowering the tea.

>>20376843
A really long rinse should take the edge off. Is it better in the later steeps?
You could try airing it out as well. I've got a cheap ""yancha"" with a shitty roast I'm trying to air out a bit at the moment.

>>20376756
how is it fake? doesn't the name just describe how its processed?
got the same keyboard btw. quite decent for the price, takes some time getting used to the limited layout and those shortcut keys though
>>20376738
I've never tried fermented teas from other regions. But I'm sure I'll look into it someday.
The tea you posted, I might include it in my next order. thanks
>>20376815
Me too. On some kettles it beeps even when you remove and place the it on the base. for such a case I'd just pull that piezo fucker out completely.

>>20377104
I wasn't sure what the consequences of pulling it out would be. Would I have to replace it with an equivalent ohm resistor?

>>20377185
no, you don't have to replace it with anything. If you have no prior soldering experience, before fucking something up on the pcb, I'd just recommend seperating the top plastic housing part of the piezo using a knife and removing the metal plate inside.

>>20377185

>>20377185
I usually just cut the trace to it with a stanley knife

I removed the speaker on my last but on my new one, the buzzer is in the base and it seems glued shut. Really kiked. At least it's very tame in how often and much it beeps so I've been fine with it.

I don't like the giant puer cake I bought

>>20377564
Boil some
8g in 1.25 litres of water, bring to boil, reduce to low simmer add tea, cover and let it go for 20 minutes.

>>20377564
how giant we talkin

>>20377564
that's fucked dude sorry

Good time to buy weeb green tea?

>>20377564
Gift it to a local lesbian organization

How do I search Mengku Rongshi teas at taobao?
Mainly I want to hunt for some specific vitnage of Arbor King, Cha Hun and Ben Wei Da Cheng.

>>20377810
Good taste friend
Try
勐库戎氏
Or
勐庫戎氏
Babelcarp.org is a huge help for getting the right chang runes for searching on taobao.
From what ive seen even the mid 2000s mengku cakes have nice looking leaves, pretty processing.

>>20377730
Yeah, preorders are opening or have opened by now. Most harvests will be by end of month, with some more in May

>>20378210
which websites?

>>20378297
I use yunoni.life
Not sure about others or what other people here think of yunomi but I like it

>>20378402
I can also vouch for yunomi, I get all my greens from there. I prefer my matcha from sazen tea though, much cheaper and still high quality.

>>20376738
"Yunnan GABA Yellow" similar to white tea, but more fruity, sweet in the aftertaste

>drink my morning green tea
>take a huge shit
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
its tea time alright

everytime i read up on oni hagi ware i always see people mentioning the color changes of them as you use it for tea, but ive never actually seen documented examples, does anyone have any pics of it?
i havent noticed anything like it on my hagi cup other than tea staining but maybe it only happens with certain oni hagi styles

>>20379608
yeah I also haven't really seen examples. I guess the uneven white glaze with poores would eventually stain a bit

Farmer leaf video tomorrow or later william forgot the mic in his tea shop. No mentions of sourcing oolong for this season so far, only talking about processing pueth white and black tea. Drought like next year should be a good spring for tea harvest apparently.

>>20379780
He mentioned new fa zhan he. I wonder what else he'll source

>>20379803
Yes processed by his wife too like last year.

>>20379608
That probably refers to tea staining the pores and cracks overtime, called 七化け.

>>20379608
>>20379871
Also search 萩焼の七化け on google images and you'll see many more examples.

>>20378750
>>20378402
any recommendations from yunomi? i want to try japanese greens especially deep-steamed stuff. hojicha, genmai and bancha also looked good too

trying to avoid samplers though

Is this fair market price?
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2022-dayi/products/2022-dayi-7542-cake-357g-puerh-sheng-cha-raw-tea?variant=42834198659302

>>20380740
It might represent what dayi is charging for those cakes these days but its a pretty inflated price imo.
Its out of stock right now but teas we like had a particularly nice 2010 version of this cake for $75
https://teaswelike.com/product/2010-dayi-7542-batch-001/
Unfortunately because of it's status as a benchmark for raw puer the 7542 specifically has an intrensic commodity price that's higher then it's value as good tea to drink.
Might as well save some money and get one with 14 years of age on it.
https://kingteamall.com/products/2010-dayi-7542-cake-357g-puerh-sheng-cha-raw-tea?variant=30380353618023
Don't forget your free sample of old tea if you order from ktm
https://kingteamall.com/products/1999-laotongzhi-908-7542-recipe-cake-357g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha?_pos=27&_sid=88efbafb9&_ss=r

>>20380320
I'm too new to give any solid recommendations myself, maybe the other person who chimed in about yunomi could help.
I will say though that I absolutely love the Shinichi Kihara kyobancha. Seems to me like a less harsh hojicha and it's really yummy. Off memory it has maple, sweet sort of taste with a smokiness that is tasteful and not too overwhelming. It looks like they restocked it which is nice but they were out of stock when I placed a preorder so I ordered the obubu kyobancha instead, really hoping it's as good. Kyobancha is dirt cheap too so I'd say it's worth the try. I'm a shill for it at this point
>>20378750
Good to know you like the stuff, was looking to place a matcha order sometime soon

>>20373173
so my "Lao Cong Shui Xian Dan Cong Oolong" arrived. it's ok but I was hoping for something else, I'm disappointed. it just tastes like 'tea'. not bad at all, it's obviously very high quality compared to "tea" but for what I expected it's just kinda lifeless. similar disappointment when I tried the puerh. just not that interesting. like I was drinking a dead thing.

I had some oolongs from taiwan that I loved, the taste was like nothing I've ever had, I want that again. I guess not oolong is the same? do I just need to stick to taiwan oolong? what exactly should I be looking for in oolong, what are the words to look for? if it matters the taiwan leaves seemed much less dried out and dark if that makes any sense. this chinese stuff is almost like it's been baked.

I think I finally see the yerba mate light. It's quick, it's easy, it's unoffensive and mild, it leaves a nice buzz. There's nothing to dislike, except that's not enough to make it a daily drinker.

>>20380982
to me it's the perfect pick when I want a lot of caffeine and don't want to pay attention. just put some hot water in a thermos and you can sip on it for a long time

>>20380966
Yeah dan cong is charcoal roasted, not as heavily as something like wuyi oolong but its definitely got that kind of treatment.
I don't have a ton of experience with dancongs but try messing around with brewing parameters some and see if it helps. More tea, hotter water, shorter brews.
Oolong is on a spectrum from really green and unroasted to heavily fermented and deeply roasted.
Sounds like you are looking for lightly fermented/ lightly roasted oolongs.
Taiwan is definitely the way to go for those as that is the big trend with taiwan oolongs these days, you can also find pretty green tie guyan yin but its a lot more annoying to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to buying TGY.
Ive been drinking a lot of the teahome teas from taiwan recently but ive been going for the more heavily fermented roasted ones so I can't comment on their lighter offerings. They tend to be a bit more old school in general in terms of deeper ferments and more roasting so maybe not the best choice for you.

Today's tea: Blue Willow Tea’s “Black Sticky Rice”
The tea is a Yunnan Dianhong scented with “sticky rice herb” (nuo mi xiang) which as the name suggests it supposedly tastes reminiscent of sticky rice. Typically when it is added to tea it is combined with cheap shou mini tuocha so this tea is kind of unusual. The dry leaves look fairly typical for Dianhong but you can really smell the nuo mi xiang. It really is vaguely reminiscent of cooked rice or porridge but has a sweet herbal element to it as well. The tea has the malty undertones of the Dianhong with a sweet rice porridge flavor coming from the sticky rice herb. Additionally, there is prominent perfumy herbal note from sticky rice herb which I expect to be divisive as it is a bit strange and sticks out. The scenting is strong enough to hold up to repeated steeps but does start to tapper off after awhile. This is an interesting tea. I don’t think would prefer it regularly over plain Dianhong but is nice as a change of pace. I shroud try some more sticky rice herb teas for comparisons sake. I wonder if it is possible to grow sticky rice herb yourself. The seeds look like they may be hard to find.

>>20381056
I will add the sticky rice herb has a surprisingly strong aroma. I came back into the room with the tea after having left for a while and I can still smell it.

>>20381056
Interesting stuff
Yeah i only ever see that sticky rice herb in ripe puer cakes so it's nice to see it presented with some other tea.
My favorite floral scenting in tea so far has been osmanthus. I had some osmanthus oolong a while ago from tea expert that was quite nice, the floral aspects blended well with the tea

2022 Yunnan Sourcing "Suan Zao Shu" Old Arbor Black Tea Cake. This was really good as a strongly brew tea with ripe and milk.
What other black teas have this flavor profile??
Can someone tell me which black tea on awazon would have a flavor profile the same or similar as the Sun black tea?

>>20381539
>2022 Yunnan Sourcing "Suan Zao Shu" Old Arbor Black Tea Cake.
What other black teas have this flavor profile? It is very complex and deep flavor. it's definitely premium tasting for lack of a better description.

>>20381539
>2022 Yunnan Sourcing "Suan Zao Shu" Old Arbor Black Tea
>Strong, malty, fruity sweet, with some dark chocolate bitterness
You would probably wanna look an dianhong black tea.
As far as awazan goes they have several yunnan old tree black teas, i haven't tried their loose leaf teas so I can't comment on how they taste but that's probably what you would want to try maybe get 100g samples of a few of them.
The teas like this one
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=1086
I wish they had more detailed flavor descriptions, they have a lot of similar batches of tea.
You could also try this
https://dragonteahouse.biz/xiaguan-brand-dian-hong-yunnan-black-tea-300g/

>>20381596
Cause the YS Black tea was good. Like it was good and I like say that i have a palate that can detect high quality items like wine, coffee, tea or w.e. When you drink it, it is like a bomb in your mouth. I'm not sure if $3USD per cup is good though lol cause I have to make 3 - 4 cups at once. 7grams per cup. I suggest you try it if you haven't.
Thanks for the recommendations.
I tried the Jin jun Mei from awazon and it wasnt that good compared to the YS Sun Arbor one.

>>20381596
I am just going to assume more expensive is better when it comes to black tea, which isn't true for ripe.

>>20381609
>cause I have to make 3 - 4 cups at once. 7grams per cup. I suggest you try it if you haven't.
Do you brew western style or gongfu?
With 7 grams in a gaiwan you should be able to make 4-5 decently strong infusions with the same leaves.
I don't rebrew leaves when brewing western style like some people do but usually 3-5 grams is plenty depending on how big the mug im using is.

>>20381614
It's definitely possible that awazan loose leaf just isn't that good. Kind of a weird store. But jin jun mei is tough to get for good prices. The "real" stuff from the wuyishan protected region starts at like 75¢ per gram and just goes up from there.

>>20381624
>Do you brew western style or gongfu?
Lemme tell you, boil water on stove, 150 ml per 7 grams and add maybe 1-2 grams of ripe, boil 10 minutes, add milk. Fucking good.

>>20381624
>3-5 grams is plenty depending on how big the mug im using is.
I find that literally boiling it on the stove is better. A good strong boiled ripe and the milk really compliments it.

>>20381641
>>20381624
This is like western style, but its important the tea needs to be boiled too. Then strain tea leaves, put tea back in pot and add milk and reheat.

>>20381596
>dianhong black tea.
Alright. What makes the Suan Zao Shu tea special? pretty new to black teas, ive just been drinking supermarket black tea like twinnings and Yorkshire and ceylon black tea blends from HK cafes and steeped tea from Tim Hortons in Canada. Ahmad black tea isnt bad, but the profile of that YS offering was something else. I will have to try a dianhong, what about the bio lii chun black tea?

>>20381654
Okay so that tea from YS is made in some village in the middle of nowhere in yunnan, they use the large leaf assimica varietal of tea plants, the same ones that they use to make puer.
So what makes it different / exciting is that its not very common to use that kind of tea plant to make black tea. It's also probably sun dried instead of being dried with hot air like with tea from the big plantations in india or sei lanka or something. That's also why it costs more, it's more labor intensive.
A lot of shops that sell puer will get these black teas made from the trees they usually use for puer, they tend to vary quite a bit in flavor depending on how the farmer makes black tea.
A few that have some
So dianhong is a black tea made in yunnan, its more likely to be from the plantations then the small villages, but it should share a lot of that flavor profile.
Chinese black teas in general tend to taste different then teas from other parts of the world.
I haven't tried bi lo chun, it gets recommended here a lot.
I would suggest trying some different Chinese black teas and see what shares the flavor you are looking for. That xiaguan dian hong i linked that's like $12 a box would be a good starting point, see if it scratches the same itch

>>20381679
>dianhong
How about your Awazon recommendation? Cause I also need to buy a new ripe cake.

>>20381715
Give it a shot, like i said i haven't tried their loose leaf

Thoughts on this store?
https://shop376019999.taobao.com/
The prices seem way too good to be true but I want to believe

>>20381788
Sorry im not at my pc right now, prices are good, those gift boxes and tins and shit from mengku don't strike me as something people would counterfeit.
Look at the seller /shop stats, have they been around for a long time? Do they have lots of sales? Is the store named store817497 or some other spammy kind of name?

Puerh smells like an unwashed vagina. It smells like a vagina at 11 PM.

>>20381852
They have CSH which I know is highly faked. Some are below half of what's offered in official CSH US storefront, so that seemed like a redflag.
Not sure how to view sales

>>20381898
Doesn't modern CSH have authenticity qr codes? Half off does seem suspicious but sometimes MSRP really is a lot more than wholesale. Official brand stores tend to sell the tea at full price. How does it compare to CSH's Chinese outlet store prices?

>>20381898
I think its probably legit. If i get a chance tomorrow i will log into taobao in my desktop and look more closely.

This one's kinda lacking in taste. Sum dark chocolate going on, not much else

>>20376318
This one was much better

>>20382056
My paranoia thinks QR codes and fancy holographic stickers are easily defeated just by swapping the fake product with the genuine wrapper. If they go a step further they could probably steam the cake and lift the embedded paper tag out of it I'd imagine.
Dunno the Chinese outlet prices
>>20382176
Okay sweet, I'd like some inputs on that store.

>>20380966
you're probably looking for lightly oxidized, unroasted oolongs then. try some green teas too

>>20382360
>My paranoia thinks QR codes and fancy holographic stickers are easily defeated just by swapping the fake product with the genuine wrapper.
It is probably not worth doing unless the cake is really expensive. Removing the wrappings also kills the resale value of the original (real) cake so that kind of scam is hard to scale. I have heard however that wrapper swapping and reuse does sometimes happen with old expensive aged cakes. It seems far more practical in that context.

>>20381865
Why do you think it's such a hit among Xena Warrior Princess fans?

Drinking the 2021 and 2023 tang fang liang zi side by side.
The 2021 version is definitely nicer.
I like both but 2021 is slightly sweeter, it's more mellow, better body feel, and maybe even stronger... just way more comfy.
Is it worth the extra $25. Maybe? I feel like if you are willing to buy a cake for $80, might as well make it $100.
But I'm looking at his website and looks like it's no longer available which is a shame.
This could be my cake for a special occasion.
I'm kicking myself that I forgot to add the zhu tang to my order.
The bangwai is nice but I'm not vibing with it. Something is missing that I cant put my finger on, I usually like sweet cakes.

>>20383507
yeah the sample of the 2023 I got was nothing special. I enjoyed the Zhu Tang more

Can tea mess up your teeth? I've been noticing mine are extra sensitive lately since I've increased my tea intake. (I brush and floss and so on, but at the end of the day they've never been great to begin with.)

>>20383614
Beyond staining not really. It's pretty close to ph neutral and no sugar unless you add it. Only thing I can think is if you're drinking it really hot that might irritate things.
For what it's worth my teeth are not great and I drink a lot of tea and it's fine. If anything they're less sensitive than they used to be a few years ago when I drank soda.

>>20383605
How is it?
Does it make you feel good? Any nice after taste or something?
I know it's supposed to be sweet but so are yellow flakes(meh) and bangwai(not feeling it).
The 2021 has this nice feel that makes me wanna go to bed and take a nap.
Funnily enough I would say the 2023 has more pronounced apricot flavour compared to the 2021, but in the it doesn't matter.

>>20383633
>Does it make you feel good? Any nice after taste or something?
very sweet, strong floral aroma that also comes back in the throat. I don't recall any special body feel, but I'm also not too attuned to that, I only get it in some raws. the chen sheng hao naka feels nice IMO

>>20383731
>the chen sheng hao naka feels nice IMO
I'm not too amazed by the FL naka. It's good, but I would probably not buy a cake.
The csh #1 is apparently quite good.

>>20383753
>The csh #1 is apparently quite good
the yin banzhang cake also sounds tempting. not too expensive for a banzhang cake from the banzhang specialist brand

Western style brewing is disrespectful to the plant and the farmers. You don't have to go all the way to gong fu but brewing tea for several minutes with water at or just under boiling completely ruins the tea. Yet people expect it and if you serve them a well brewed cup they look at it, and you, weird. The same way that coffee has been ruined by mass produced, over-roasted, stale beans, tea has been ruined by mass produced, stale tea that suggests boiling water and 3 minutes+ is a proper cup.

Sipping the cheapo haiwan from awazon, toasty and warm smells with a bit of fruity aftertaste, no funk, this is bretty good relaxing ripe.
I saw some anon ordered the xiaguan 8663 from there, if you're around how was it?

Is yerba mate actually cancerous?

>>20383910
It's basically like drinking plant derived fiber glass.

>>20383919
The highly filtered and refined product is fine, but if you're drinking the stuff out of a bombilla, you're getting fine particulate that is very similar to fiber glass, or, for this argument, asbestos.

>>20383926
>>20383919
Well.. I'm glad I've only drunk it a few times, then.
Jesus christ that's horrific.

>>20383888
"Western" style brewing is a myth and Chinese people do long steeps in big teapots outside of grandpa style too. Short infusions came from Chaozhou and only got popularized across China after the 1950s. It was originally for yancha, not for pu'erh, btw. CZ-style brewing for sheng really only became a thing after the 90s.

Also, it's functionally impossible to brew tea at boiling unless you decoct (keep at a boiling temperature on the stovetop) in a saucepan or something similar. Any vessel you pour boiling water into is going to sap heat quickly, even preheated ceramics. In practice the drop is quite rapid, especially when starting from a boil (100c -> >80c in less than a minute). Optimal tea brewing temperatures and infusion times are at best a guess and vary with every style and variety of tea. Insistence on short infusion time for every tea in the world is just as reductive as insistence on long infusion times. Some people like to buy CZ-style heaters with larger Yixing pots and simmer teas for hours at a time.

tl;dr You should stop LARPing.

>>20383928
There's nothing larp about how disgustingly bitter tea gets when steeped hot and long

>>20383919
Even the loose leaf tea?

>>20383926
>>20383919
Do you have anything to back this up? I can't find any information about it.

>>20383935
"Tea" isn't a universal and you should fuck right off if you're not going to cite specifics after going into a whole spiel about disrespect to farmers you've never met before.

>>20383957
fuck off, tea bag drinker

>>20383960
I accept your concession.

>>20383910
>Is yerba mate actually cancerous?
The concerns seem comically overblown.
Some yerba mate is dried over wood fires so it contains some small amount of particles of wood smoke which is cancerous, like how grilling meat in a charcoal grill or eating smoked meat or toasted bread is "cancerous"
Totally silly and overblown, but if you are worried about it you can easily buy hot air dried yerba mate that has no smoke.
Now on the other hand drinking hot liquids over like 70°c is a documented contributor to throat and stomach cancer, so if you are making yerba with hot ass water that nearly burns your mouth when you sip it that's going to increase your cancer risk by a few %. Same thing applies to drinking hot ass tea too.
>>20383919
>>20383926
Schizo shit

>>20383888
>brewing tea for several minutes with water at or just under boiling completely ruins the tea.
Stop drinking shitty tea

>>20383888
darjeeling and some other indian teas are some of the tea types that are better when brewed western styled imo

>>20383890
nice. Haiwan ripe always delivers

>>20383888
>brewing tea for several minutes with water at or just under boiling completely ruins the tea
you know most Chinese brew tea like that too? and often the traditional way to brew tea in tea making regions was to boil it. there's also literally nothing wrong with using boiling water for most tea
gong fu brewing was a niche thing only used for a few select teas until relatively recently

>>20383988
This is wholly incorrect, and I don't care to explain why. No one of value uses yerba in that way.

>>20384076
>But in my shithole we drink yerba mate this way, unlike those people in the shithole next to us
Nobody cares

>>20384094
We don't drink yerba in my shithole. I use my bomba as a salt pig.

Has anyone in the us tried this weee asian grocery website?
I know a few people were looking for unsweetened bottles of tea and they have quite a bit and apparently free shipping if you spend $35.

>>20384301
They also have a few tenfu brand puer cakes. I know tenfu makes a lot of white tea products.

Here it is, the mystery mid- to late- 2000s Ban Zhang ripe puerh. Last week my neighbor surprised me with this gift, hence the thread edition (I think?). As I mentioned it was stored in very dry conditions for the last weeks or months. My plans were to let this sit in storage for a while, but I couldn't resist and had to brew some up.

DAMN I'm glad I did because it's excellent. Feels like a light fermentation. Very little on those dark, rich dough or chocolate notes. Instead it taste much more mellow with a lot of aged flavor that's just great. I thought only well aged raw puerh could taste like that. Smelling the leaves was like being transported to grandma's old farmhouse. Antique furniture, leather, a dirty cellar. Real nostalgic energy. The aged flavor reminds me of the only traditional wet storage raw puerh I've ever had, from KTM's Project #1. This ripe doesn't have the same dank muddy garden vibes, but it's somewhat in that direction. Maybe more dry earthy notes rather than wet ones. I've only had one session with it so far so we're still getting acquainted, but I can not believe one of the best ripes I've had was a handoff from a neighbor who didn't like the style.
Here's a photo of the spent material. I should have taken a shot earlier.
>>20383890
Koi gaiwan vibes

>>20381865
then get the stuff that smells like sticky rice

>>20384737
Sounds nice, i love a nice aged tea taste

>>20384035
Is there chocolate flavor?

/tea/should get 10% off from awazon

今日もいい天気

>>20385435

>>20381865
*Ripe Pu Erh

>>20385435
本当だ

>>20384737
Sounds tasty anon, good result even though the cake seemed a bit sus.

>>20374321
On first look the leafs are strikingly small, but not broken.
Haven't had tea this good in a long while.
Very sweet, honey like liquid, with a slightly bitter almond aftertaste and slight flower notes resembling green tea. Due to being a poorfag I had to drink a chinese black of similar appearance till now that has none of these qualities and which is barely good enough for gonfu brewing.
Will definetely order larger quantities of this.

>>20386178
Brewing at 90°

>>20386178
Damn imagine hand picking / sorting all those tiny ass leaves.
Sounds like nice stuff. Im a fan of those wuyi black teas, you can usually taste the influence from wuyi oolong processing on the flavor profile.

>>20386260
>Damn imagine hand picking / sorting all those tiny ass leaves.
I read somewhere that handpicking is something that clients pay extra for, so i guess this is a sign that the tea is higher quality?

>>20386178
Also very effective. Had a good ~8 brews out of this tea

>>20383928
Gaiwans have been a thing since at least the Tang Dynasty, retard

>>20386479
And no one has used them for gong fu, just, you guessed it - brewing for several minutes then using the lid to filter out the leaves as you drink from the gaiwan

>>20386449
Im not sure how much mechanized harvesting there is in china, i think labor is still cheap enough that hand picking is preferred. But i might be wrong.
I know Japan does at least some mechanized harvesting but their teas are usually heavily processed with the steaming etc so there is less trade-off in leaf appearance.

>>20386527
I wasn't talking about harvesting. In videos from processing centers in China i sometimes see women manually picking twigs, broken leaves and other undesirable stuff from tea piles on bamboo trays, and i think this is an extra step that clients pay for if they have high quality tea.

https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/c11602/
Thoughts? Seems like there's a decent chance monks in Uji found a plot of very old (genetically) tea. It's probably not very good, but it's interesting.

>>20386449
As well as by hand, there are machines that do some kinds of sorting, I don't know the details but there's one here in this video. But I'll bet they charge extra for carefully sorted material.
https://youtu.be/Ua2dRUjeJUk?t=299

>>20386560
Thanks for the article, it was an interesting read.
>It's probably not very good
Could be great or just good, but a new cultivar is welcome to challenge the Yabukita regime.
Hopefully it's going to be affordable and not expensive because it comes from one of the original gardens.

>>20386568
Yeah, as far as i'm aware they do machine sorting and then, if you pay extra because you have very good shit, the tea goes through manual sorting, but i could be wrong.
Also, seeing the shu piles in these videos make my salivary glands go into overdrive. One just has to ponder the aroma.
Fuck i swear i can smell the puer now.

Looking at the FL Facebook, looks like he is busy with bunch of jingmai gardens.
Anything interesting in the past?
If it's all just fragrance I think I'll pass.
Sucking on also doesn't seem like a good time.

>>20386619
I've only had the miyun and yellow flakes and they were kind of mid. I'd rather just have the Bangwai. Maybe the higher priced stuff is more worth a buy?
I think FL's coolest stuff seems to be the obscure locations he finds and the Lao Man E he sources is also great.

>>20386619
>Sucking on also doesn't seem like a good time.
You mean sucking on a rock?
If you haven't experienced yan yun from a nice quality wuyi oolong you should get on that. Some nice mineral notes in tea can really enhance the finish.
Xiaguan and i think dayi have done some "mountain rock flavor" puer cakes in the past, unfortunately it doesn't look like ktm offers smaller portions for this one.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2012-xiaguan/products/2012-xiaguan-meng-hai-gao-shan-yan-yun-menghai-high-mountain-rock-flavor-357g-puerh-sheng-cha-raw-tea?variant=31278023737447
Liquid prost has the same cake
https://www.liquidproust.com/listing/1050350352/2012-menghai-rock-flavor-from-xiaguan

>>20386632
>I think FL's coolest stuff seems to be the obscure locations
Think so too. I'm sure there is a good jingmai but you will probably pay extra due to the name which I don't care about.
>>20386654
>You mean sucking on a rock?
Yeah, don't know why it's missing.
>Some nice mineral notes in tea can really enhance the finish.
Nah I'm not interested in anything rock like.
Same reason why I'm not ripe lesbian who enjoys wet leaves, dirt, and old decomposing wood in his cup.

>>20383926
>>20383919

>pop
I like when tangerines stuffed with tea split open. This is a nice aged raw puerh. Brews up ANGRY red with a slight cloudiness. Pretty generic and of unknown origin, but it sure is nice on a warm evening.

cold brew tea is pretty damn good yo

>>20387340
Love me some dried tangerine
Gonna brew some up right now
The only puer stuffed one ive tried is the ubiquitous golden horse brand ones.
The flavor from the citrus was a good combo with the ripe but the tea itself was uninspiring.
I was trying to shop around for some older/more premium chempi then the bag i got from fullchea but fuck does that stuff get expensive. KTM got a nice looking batch in recently but its like $40 for 50g of dried citrus.
https://kingteamall.com/products/2009-kingteamall-chen-pi-tangerine-peel-herbal?variant=44030870978790
Im sure the stuff from fullchea is good enough, i don't need to pay more to get some fancy TCM version

>>20387408
yo is the fullchea chen pi good quality? because they seem to have it for way cheaper than anywhere else

>>20387423
I'm drinking some right now
Its pretty good
Iirc there was one peel in the bag that was a little sour tasting but im pretty happy with it.
I'm pretty sure this is the one i bought
But this is the only one ive tried other then the ones stuffed with puer.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2017-xinhui-quotchen-piquot-11-year-old-trees-dried-tangerine-peel-dry-herb-pericarpium-orange-peel-chinese-tea-food-seasoning-50g
Im not sure on the full red vs half red vs green and which is better or why.
Im not sure which i will get when i order more. Maybe this
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/products/2017-xinhui-quotchen-piquot-shuangshui-production-area-dried-tangerine-full-red-peel-dry-herb-pericarpium-herbal-chinese-tea-50g
Also DO NOT store it with your tea. I put the bag in my pumidor overnight when it came in and the next morning it reeked of cirrus, had to take everything out and air it out.

>>20387423
Oh yeah and 50g is a decent amount, i usually only use 2-3 grams grampa style in a mug, sometimes i eat the peel afterwards.
I guess it gets really expensive when it gets older because it's supposed to be better Chinese medicine once its 10 years old. So that's why the the one batch on fullchea from 2014 is like $50.

>brew tea
>put ball with leaves in refrigerator
>reuse the next day
is this dangerous
am I doing a dangerous thing when I do this

>>20387507
Get out of the house right now that makes mustard gas

>>20387340
Turns out it's a ripe. What a rush!

Drinking Prosbloom again... it has a strong forward woodsyness with a bitterness less like overbrewed tea and more akin to a dandelion, a pollen-y bitterness if that makes sense, but by the time I've swallowed it, it tastes mellow with returning sweetness. On a whim I put a little honey in it (it's buckwheat honey, which is molasses and malt-y) and I think it's actually worse that way. Bizarre tea. And yet I keep on drinking it multiple times. I still don't know if I actually like it or not.

Doin some gradpa brewing with cheap wuyi type oolong I got from a local store

>>20388331
I'm positively surprised.
I tried brewing that gonfu a while ago and that wasn't very pleasant at all. This tea is just not suitable for that brewing method. I suppose the leafs are just too broken.
But this way it tastes pleasantly sweet and "spicey" with some baked nut aromas

>>20388364
I wonder what variety they used. It kinda resembles spicey indian blacks, but has that typical chinese nutty dark oolong flavour from baking the tea

Hi, I have not been on 4chan for many years (it is a long story)abit scared desu. Anyway just got back into tea! surprised to see a tea thread on here!this is my latest haul.Also why is the captcha so hard?

>>20388387
Glad to have you back anon. Interesting teas. Is that real nip sencha? I suppose there are many chinese counterfeits?
If you're a satanphone poster you can use Kuroba + captcha solver to post.

>>20388427
Yes it is nip sencha.The zarai sencha I have here is actually quite interesting it is from a seed rather then grafted so it is just like what they would have drunk when they first started cultivating tea in Japan so it is a taste from the past. I do think it lacks that wow factor of jpn tea has now which I always like serving to guest but it is a nice relaxing tea to have on my own.

Would anyone here know what tea type this would be? It’s a vibrant green color. In the film “Green Tea” (2003), a main character always orders green tea. It is served with just a glass of hot water, loose leaf tea, and a spoon. The leaves just fall to the bottom of the glass. Is this even a common method of drinking tea in China?

@2:00 and 4:00
https://youtu.be/I4lcljJos2Y?si=8SCgZ5h3_4AeOEUR

>>20388364
I noticed as well that gong fu tends to just exaggerate the flaws in those cheap chinese supermarket teas, I think they're much better with other brewing methods. The harsh roast all gets concentrated in the first few steeps.

>>20388481
Not too sure what the tea is, but yeah it's a very common way to drink tea in China. Apparently they mostly drink green tea especially longjing, in a glass like that or in a bottle.
In the west people usually call it grandpa style. Works just fine with most tea that doesn't have much broken leaves.

Maocha release on farmer leaf in couple days.

Broke my gaiwain lid. So it goes.

>>20388736
Congrats on your new cup

>>20388642
I wish FL offered all their teas in the sizes of those maocha bags. 20 gram samples are on the small side for my taste

Which lumber slut should I try first? Should I get all four years, or just one year and try other ripes as well?

>>20389051
I think 100g cakes or maybe a tuo is really around the ideal size. Maybe closer to 70g. I'm not quite at the point where I'm going to buy tongs of stuff I like, but 20g isn't even really close to enough. When you're just starting maybe it's okay if you've never had puerh before and are just curious, but it's not really a sample.

The (357g) cake is the sample
20g bags are a sanity check when spending in the higher range of your budget to make sure you don't buy something you will hate.

>>20388481
>Is this even a common method of drinking tea in China?
It's basically the only way people drink longjing. Most tea drunk in China or Taiwan is drunk out of a glass like this, sometimes they have lids. That tea looks like a maofeng, but it's hard to tell.

>>20388642
Sale soon I presume?
2024 fa zhan he here I go(and bunch of the things, probably not jingmai cakes)

>>20389152
I don't know about the sale, didn't talked about it yet, might be with the release of the cakes so not yet. Black white and maocha first I think and second release with the cakes and the sales that goes with them if any.

What do you lads think of organic tea? Worth it over the regular stuff? I dont want to be drinking in some nasty monsanto herbicide cancerous dick killer.

>>20389200
>nasty monsanto herbicide cancerous dick killer
you should probably be drinking something else, teabags have a bunch of lead, if you want to be healthy please just drink water. so the answer is no, its not really any better than any other bagged tea you can buy.

>>20389171
I didn't know he has new white cakes on the way. Might get some.

>>20389207
Sorry i didnt mean those products especially its just a random picture i pulled. But thanks for the heads up. Is the lead in the bag? Or the tea? Sorry im not very knowledable.

>>20389057
One year and try some others. I've had it from two years and it's pretty similar. 2022 is a bit more burly, 2021 is smoother.
If I were to try some others I'd go for gingerbread man or red loon probably

>>20389215
it has less to do with the bag and more the fact that bagged tea is cheaper and therefore contains cheaper tea that is almost always lead contaminated in some way. even if you get more expensive teas that are not indian like the ones mentioned here they will still have varying amounts of lead, although it is not as much of an issue as it is for indian teas (the kind that is almost always put in teabags). also 'organic' is not a term any of us look for when buying a tea, that doesnt really mean anything and it sounds like its just a marketing ploy.

>>20389227
So what should i look for if i dont want to drink in the nasty stuff? And i dont like water!

>>20389231
i honestly dont really think it will make a difference what bagged tea you get, but you can probbaly minimize the health impact of bagged tea by buying loose tea and making teabags yourself (not difficult, e.g. https://www.amazon.com/Disposable-Filter-Cotton-Drawstring-Teal%EF%BC%883-54/dp/B078HQ3K5K?th=1)) or by using an infuser or a teapot with a strainer or some other similar method like maybe even using a gaiwan if you want. you can always not do any of this and buy loose tea and put it directly in the cup youll be drinking out of. but i think difference in the impact on your health between all of these options will be pretty marginial, which is why i suggest just drinking whatever tea you already like at the moment.

>>20389243
Sorry i didnt make myself clear :( i dont mind getting loose leaf if thats what it takes to avoid the bad stuff. But thanks for your advice!

>>20389255
>i dont mind getting loose leaf if thats what it takes to avoid the bad stuff
but you want entirely avoid it, because again tea is not very healthy, it will still have varying amounts of lead although likely less than just a grocery store teabag.

>>20389262
Where does the lead come from?

>>20389264
seems like the tea leaves themselves.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3821942/

>>20389200
>>20389231
>>20389255
Some /tea/ approved organic retailers from the OP rentry:

Chinese:
https://yunnansourcing.com/ (only the ones labeled as organic--they also have a US site if you're based in the States)

Taiwanese:
https://www.taiwanteacrafts.com/shop/organically-grown/organically-grown/?v=7516fd43adaa

Japanese:
https://www.yuuki-cha.com/

Indian:
https://www.darjeelingteaboutique.com/

>>20389285
Thanks i will check them out! Very helpful website!

>>20389200
There's also farmer leaf, I can't find the source for this right now but I'm sure William said that Jingmai teas are produced without pesticides because of government regulations, although strictly they aren't organic certified.

>>20389200
Newman's Own organic black tea is like $8 for 100 bags. Makes pretty good iced tea.

>lurk finally after wondering what you guys could possibly be talking about in these threads
>it's tea

>>20389336
Anon you should buy some ripe puer, you won't regret it.

>>20389264
NTA but there is lead, to some degree, naturally occurring in the earth, and as the plants grow, they will take some in. Same with many other contaminants -- cadmium, arsenic, many things that we fear are natural components of the world. So it's less about avoiding all the things entirely, and more about limiting intake to a reasonable amount. After all, bananas are radioactive! Just not in a way that matters to our health and well-being.

>>20389336
Do you like tea, anon? Would you like to like it a whole lot more? Take the /tea/ pill, I've only spent $100 on tea so far this year!

I want this teapot

>>20388838
Boveda packs arrived together with a bunch of chink shit

>>20389377
Is that a whole ass bootleg ipod nano?

>>20389377
Dude bovedas.

got this desk lamp. It's alright considering it was only 2€

>>20389068
Agreed. I feel like 100 gram is a great size.

>>20389383
Yep. Only 2€. A real steal

>>20389391
That rules. How much storage space?

>>20389518
SD card slot

Be honest puer lesbians, how often do you piss?

>>20389521
I love it. Good find anon.

new thread
>>20389604
>>20389604

>>20389373
>I want this teapot
I didn't bother to price shop or see if other stores had it, just found the first listing that came up
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2255800984511742.html

>>20389790
Thank you. YS has a matching tea cup for $80. I thought it would be much more expensive.