/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>20108657
nigger it doesn't count thousands of dollars, you don't need to buy the high end shit right away to get into cooking. you can go to a thrift store and walk out with all the basic kitchen equipment you need for under $100.

youre just full of shit and you know it

>>20108657
Who's spending thousands in pots and pans and utensils as a beginner cook?

Stop trying to justify your bad choices.

>>20108657
sticks are free, buddy. unless you are in a megalopolis

>>20108689
Ugh... why you're burning cabbages?

>>20108657
>but they neglect to mention the thousands of dollars in various pots, pans, and utensils that you need
anon your landlord is literally legally required to provide them at his own expense

>>20108693
i suspect they may be witches.

>>20108671
>Nonstick
Kys

>>20108657
>thousands of dollars
15 bux for a decent knife. 5 bux for a good spatula (never buy a used spatula). Maybe 50 bux for 2 pots, a fry pan and a large spoon from a goodwill or Sally Ann. You're good to go.

Go to IKEA and buy all your stuff there
The 365 knifes are perfectly adequate for anyone

Welcome to /idwtatlg/ - I Don't Want To Adult This Life General
Grossly misrepresenting the cost and necessities of cookware Edition.

>>20108752
Or maybe the /mommy won't cook for me anymore and I'm mad general/?

>>20108657
Purchase pizza plate
Place 2 or 3 corn tortillas on
smear them with refried beans like pizza sauce to keep the edges from getting too crispy
put some canned chicken and shredded cheese in a line down the center
put in oven on 350 for 10 minutes
put a line of chipotle honey mustard or whatever sauce you like down the middle of each
fold and put on plate and let cool for a few minutes before eating
repeat as necessary for the rest of your life

also nice pc gaming argument adaptation 7/10

>>20108752
It's amazing how they'll put in 100 units of effort coming up with excuses to avoid a single unit of effort that has an actual payoff.

>>20108657
>thousands
good bait

>>20108752
pretty much

>>20108657
I know you personally are just asking questions in bad faith, but here's the basics:
- a small nonstick skillet, 8-10", try to get one new so it's not fucked up. the ones from the restaurant supply store will last you the longest. there are no nonsticks that are "safe" for metal utensils. hexclad is a meme.
- a large stainless or carbon steel skillet or saute pan, 10-12"
- 3 qt saucepan, nonstick or stainless
- 5-8 quart pot, aluminum or stainless
- some wooden grandma spoons, one round, one flat
- a plastic or silicone flipper
- tongs (it's unlikely you'll use these with your nonstick, metal is fine)

start with this and buy other things *as you need them*. don't buy "thousands of dollars" in various shit. people legitimately make this mistake in all kinds of trades and hobbies, from cooking to car repair.

>>20108657
I just bought a $100 food processor yesterday. Probably gonna pay for itself by the end of the year given the angle that we're looking at food costs. My stainless steel pan I bought last summer got a shit ton of use too. Having the money to buy all this nice cookware saves me money in the long run because I can cook better at home and save money on food. Poor people, I guess like you, can't spend more efficiently. Like paper towels, yeah the single roll is cheaper than the pack, but you only get one roll.

>>20108657

>>20108971
>preseasoned
You would still have to season it, right?

>>20108657
>bitches about not having a 20 string guitar
>can't play a 6 string
many such cases
learn to cook one pot meals

>>20108657
So youre telling me your boomer parents do not even pass on their ugliest utensils to their most idiotic offspring. LMAO.

>>20108657
I did the math, going to chipotle or panda twice a day is about equal in cost to groceries from the bougie grocery store, going to fast casual unironically returns more calories but doing groceries from the bougie store yields more nutritional food but it also requires setting significant time for cooking and cleaning so it's give and take

With that said and done, all I eat is panda and chipotle, sometimes sweetgreen or chick fil a cobb salad with apple cider vinegrette dressing, you can't tell me this diet is unsustainable, I know it's shit tier but I'm an athlete and it seems to work for me

>>20108974
i would strip that shit right off because idk what they used but i don't trust it.
once found a dutch oven on the side of the road but it smelled like motor oil so i took it to the shop and sand blasted it

>>20108734
>r/choosingbeggars

>>20108657
Retards like (you) shouldn't be allowed internet access.

>>20108992
How'd you strip the seasoning? Soak it in acid for some time?

>>20109014
i have access to a sand blaster but a bath in white vinegar for a hour or two should strip off any seasoning/rust

>>20108734
Nobody gives a shit about your opinion when you don't own a single pot or pan.

>>20109014
Put it through the washing machine like 5 times

>>20108657
Also the upfront cost of ingredients. Even a salad is expensive as fuck and then if you don't have salad 5x that week it all goes bad before you even get a chance to use it.

Imagine spending $100 every week on fast food when you could spend $100 on a kitchen set, and then cook meals that only cost you $20 a week at most.
Instant gratification junkies who can't save money are the worst.
>People say owning a car is cheaper, but they forget to mention that cars use gasoline. That's why I pay for an Uber ride every day.

>>20108689
this reminds me of christmas because every christmas we would tie a cabbage on a rope and hang it from the ceiling and watch the dog jump at it and eat it while it swings around

>>20108693
Those are persimmons.

>>20108657
It's so demoralizing. I wanted to make coffee, but according /ctg/ it's not even worth it unless you spend $5,000 MINIMUM on an espresso machine, plus about 2 years of classes to learn how to use it. So I guess it's always gonna be Monster Energy for me lads.

>>20110404
wtf why?

>>20110434
Just buy a moka pot

>>20110544
No, all the ones on Amazon are Chinese garbage, you need to travel to Italy where a wise man on a mountain teaches you to cast your own moka pot from iron ore collected from a volcano and smelted under a solar eclipse. I've looked into the travel costs, the visas, the bribes, the hostels, I've done the math... it's just not worth it.

>>20108657
Stainless steel large pan, large stainless steel pot, and wooden spats are all you need to cook a large majority of meals. Can add a sheet pan if you dont wanna buy aluminum foil.

>>20108657
You can't even cook oatmeal until you complete a 20 year apprenticeship under McJiro.

The greater cost is in time, not just cooking and cleaning but also learning to use your tools well enough to actually match a restaurant. The cheapest shit you can eat is made at home, but making something that matches a restaurant ultimately will cost you more than just driving to go get it. You can buy ~3 meals worth of curry and rice for $15 dollars or you can go to the store and by $80 worth of spices, and spend the afternoon cleaning dishes. Then you get to hope that you have enough of a hankering for curry or similar foods to justifying using up the rest of your spices.

>>20110715
a man who doesnt cook for himself is not a man

>>20110731
True. Not merely a man, but a gentleman.

>>20110731
>>20110773
The goalpost?

>>20110715
I cook better than restaurants

>>20110715
>$80 worth of spices
where the fuck do you people shop? spices cost literal cents

>>20110715
>Man can't perceive long term value
>Lashes out at everyone else around him
You nogs need to get a few more braincells.

i live in the city so i just get all of my pots, pans, dishes and appliances out of the trash

>>20108671
You have to toss all the plastic stuff so not much of a starter kit

>>20108752
It do be like that

>>20108671
That shit would last a couple of years tops before they broke/fell appart
Spend a little bit on cookware but no need to break the bank

>>20108657
Yeah it's nice not being poor. Using something like $600 in equipment tonight for basic nachos.
>Sous vide for roast beef, plus pan: $150
>Cutting board $70
>Knife $130
>Skillet $200
>Lid $50
But it means I always have really good food, so over a few years way cheaper than eating out.
I'm told in some countries, just heating the oven for a single meal like this would be considered a frivolous expense.

>>20108657
It's like getting into 3D printing for miniatures. You invest money into the printer then discover you need more and more and more and also have to develop a skill, be able to troubleshoot what went wrong, until you've spent so much on a hobby so you can pay $5 for an STL instead of $5 for the miniature itself

>>20111063
>poor
>$200 skillet
uhhuh

>>20111063
Nigga is that… ham nachos?

>>20108657
Grab it all at a Goodwill/thrift store for pennies, sharpen your own shit and use a plug-in hottop and oven (if your apartment has no stove) and you've got a basic kitchen for $50. It's an investment, but it's not crazy.
Just don't buy nonstick pans used, that will poison you.

>>20111063
>200$ cast iron skillet
>you can get Lodge skillets for like 28 bucks

>>20108657

You zoomers are fucking doomed. I can't wait to watch you retards struggle as you age, having no idea about the basic things in life like cooking supplies, budgeting, grocery shopping, mortgages and so on. Lmao.

>>20108657
Investment, also known as "capital." If you knew anything about economics, you wouldn't be having trouble understanding this. If you invest capital into material goods, you enable yourself to use that capital (tools, machinery, et al.) to create a product of value.

>>20108990
Retard alert

>>20108657
This dumb shit again?
"Durrr people say it cheaper to grow your own food but the store sells green onions for 50 cents but the seeds are 99 cents and a plant pot is $2 how tf does that make sense?"

>>20110559
it sounds worth it

>>20110421
Those are huge grapes

I hate having to throw pots out from burning my oatmeal

>>20110715
NGMI

>>20108657
That's why you just buy shit over time. Just buy a basic pot and pan, then build. You don't need a million things for your kitchen.

>>20110715
why are there people like you even on /ck/

>>20108657
It's hundreds of dollars at best. Wood utensils are dirt cheap. You just need a handful of stainless steel pots and pans, and maybe a nonstick for newb purposes. And you can even shell out a few hundos more for a proper smoker/grill to expand what you can make. Get a combo microwave, and you are all fucking set.

And you only need 3 knives max, 1 if Chinese (the cleaver). A chef knife, a small paring knife, and a serrated one for bread, long as possible. Add a filet knife if you catch your own fist. Get a plastic cutting board that doesn't slip, and stock your kitchen with bowls and plates as required.

>>20108667
>>20108667

Beyond that since almost no one knows how to cook under the age of 35 anymore you can just go to estate sales especially in the Midwest and pick up old school Farberware from the 50's or so that will last basically forever if its maintained. Pure steel as well no chemical residue or bullshit. Cast iron too. Sometimes the pricing at those places is higher than it should be but generally

Hell even if you burn shit in it on accident you can simmer distilled vinegar in it and use steel wool to restore it. It may take a few rounds. You could go a step further and use electrolysis to deal with rust.

They are cheaper than what you'd pay for new dogshit tier quality online

>>20110715
Psst: restaurants are staffed by mexibros who can't cook for shit. You can totally cook restaurant quality stuff at home AND BETTER if you actually fucking try. You aren't beating a tire company approved autismo chef, but you can BTFO most common restaurants, especially chains. Fast food isn't even trying, you can beat them easily.

Also curry blocks are like a couple of bucks and 2 blocks make a fucking stock pot's worth of curry. The wine I dump in mine costs more money, and even then its only 10-15 bucks.

Most rentals/homes have a dishwasher. Even without, just soak em in hot water and wash em later. Shit comes right off.

Salad is the only thing restaurants offer that is difficult as fuck to do cheaper. All the ingredients plus lettuces are a pain to keep fresh, and you need a salad spinner/colander to wash shit. And forget beating a salad buffet in cost.

>>20110781
The "goalpost" to be a man is to be capable of taking care of yourself for basic life without outside assistance. I'm not talking expert crap like doctor care or shit like that. Just everyday living. That includes cooking for yourself, and at LEAST managing to use a fire properly outside.

You become a husband when you take care of a woman on top of yourself.

You become a father when you take care of a family (wife + kids).

>>20108657
First, never listen to poorfags. They've already failed at life. Second, cooking is for women and minorities. It a simple skill that the losers here pretend is difficult to validate their failure to compete. You, as a white male, should be financially secure enough to eat out whenever the fuck you want. Furthermore, you shouldn't be shamed for realizing cooking is for the lower classes.

>>20112172
Most jewish post award

>>20112184
Sorry to invalidate your faggy hobby.

Totally agree, a pan is like $20. Pair that with a $20 set of utensils and you’re already at like $1k

>>20108657
what the fuck are you talking about?
i have utensils my family just threw away because they're a dime a fucking dozen
a good cast iron pan costs lik 60 dollars
you are a giant retard

>>20108657
That's not even the problem with cooking your own food. The biggest problem is the time wasted and the skyrocketing prices of groceries, its not even worth cooking.
>burn an hour+ once or twice a week going to the market
>spend a few hours per day making your breakfast, lunch and dinner
>save a maximum of $3 per meal
Could have just grabbed carry out from restaurants/food shops. And use all that excess time for either yourself or just spend 1 hour extra at work to makeup for the extra few bucks spent to have someone make the meals for you.
Cooking your own food is a meme and the groceries store owners are laughing at you as they leave the bank and hit up their favorite restaurant and have some beta cu/ck/ sissy make it for them

>>20112172
t. would eat the bugs

>>20112131
You're a faggot poorfag with homosexual inclinations. I own your "wife" and you're raising some of my children.

The real trick is to buy those bags of cereal with the highest amount of calories at the lowest price. It's like almost entirely carbs and fats (sneed oils), but if you're a bachelorette, you're not going to find a better deal. Just pour it into a dog bowl and eat. Then stick something long and hard down your throat so you puke it all up.
Getting fat is gay.

I buy steel pans from the grocery store and just toss them when they get too filthy to keep using. They're like 5 or 10 bucks because no one buys them so they're perpetually on clearance. It works for me.

>>20110451
my dad thought it would be funny and it just became a tradition

>>20112229
Just because you're an inefficient retard doesn't mean everyone else is. It also begs the question, why the fuck are you even on this board? Go back to /v/ you fucking moron

Even if it did cost a thousand buckeroos to get all the pots and pans and other shit, that's a one time purchase so if you're the sort of stupid cunt who eats out at every meal except breakfast (because cereal exists), you just about break even in three months and start saving thereafter.
If you're the sort of cunt who eats ready meals, you start saving after six months.

>>20108657
90% of my cooking is done in a single frying pan. It is not the perfect implement, but it is more than sufficient for nearly everything I want to do.

>>20108657
If you're eating food just to save money, you simply don't love food.

>>20112647
>just cuz ur a big stinky dummy blahblahblah
alright kiddo settle down and instead of act like a pompous fag, try to explain where I'm wrong
Protip: you can't
Because the fact is, groceries costs are higher than ever and cooking is too time consuming. You wanna play pretend sissy boywife and cook like a faggot then go right ahead, but you can't refute the truth

>>20108657
A large pot, a frying pan, ladel, spatula, immersion blender, knives/forks/spoons, and a few bowls are all I need and I cook from scratch. Occasionally I've used a cast iron for the oven but i rarely bake

>>20112957
>If you're eating food just to save money
I'm sure that's not the reason they're eating, they just want to save money while eating

>>20108657
>thousands of dollars in various pots, pans, and utensils that you need to cook more than just oatmeal
>thousands of dollars
killyourself you fucking idiot

>>20108657
You can buy all your kitchen equipment at Goodwill for about $100. Including pots and pans.

>>20108974
No. You'll never have to season it again as long as you don't let it rust up (like by soaking it in water) and you cook in it semi-regularly. Like once a month.

>>20111063
>making nachos in a covered skillet
Damn you're retarded.

>>20108657
I don't buy all my kitchen equipment from the goodwill, but I always check there before going to the "real" store.
Not about to drop $75 on a pot for boiling potatoes.

>>20110009
I grow my own salad greens, so I just go out into the garden and pick whatever looks good. Lasts longer and is way cheaper than buying from the store. Once you have teh seeds, you can get them from the veggies, so those become free too

>>20108657
You know you can fix being broke, but poverty is a mindset you can never escape.
Anyway I own copper pots and pans, expensive Japanese knives and sharpening stones, a pizza oven and a very nice smoker.
You should stop being poor and get good.

>>20112643
>>20110404
this sounds hilarious and my dog loves cabbage, I'm going to try it

>>20108657
>lifetime supply of pans
like $100
>lifetime supply of utensils
like $100
>lifetime supply of bowls, cups, plates, strainers and shit
like $100

better yet just eat rice and beans every day
cost $20 a week for food and you only need 2 pots and 1 spoon.

>>20108734
>>20111021
cancer isnt real faggots
thats just big pot trying to get you to throw all your perfectly good shit out every few years for the new shit

>>20112560
i do that with most of my life
every 6-12 months i replace all my towels, hand towels, pans, knives, scissors, cutting boards, socks, underware, shirts.
its like $300 every 6-12 months.
worth it for me honestly.

>>20110339
>100 a week on fast food
So 2 meals? Including Uber Eats fee+tax+tip

>>20111577
UUUU

>>20115969
>So 2 meals?
right?
for me its like $50 a day.
>$20 for breakfast
>$20 for lunch
>$10 for 2 coffee during the day
and then $20-30 a day for fresh bread/meat/dairy/veggies.
i only buy fresh each day for any of those and i never go to chain stores, and i only buy just enough to consume that day, so each day is new fresh food.
nothing really left over for multiple days in a row or even weeks in a row to sit in the fridge.
started doing this a few years ago, cant imagine going back to the "weekly shop" and getting a big cart full of shit full of chemicals made to make it last longer.

>>20115966
I don't go that far, but I buy nice clothes and my towels are also nice.

>>20108657
A good pan can last 20+ years.
I know math is raycest but lets try some of the simple shit. I know amortization is a big, scary, word for brown people and woman but lets try to keep it simple:
IF you spend 2k (which is obscene and you can spend much less for equivalent results but lets run with it) that works out to your cooking equipment costing you 100 dollars a year.

Most high end pans can last several lifetimes--I've inherited a few.

>>20108667
Based--I see lodge and Tramontana all the time at my local thrift store.

>>20114895
It's frozen here half the year.

>>20108657
Nigga we have a 25 year old pot that's still going strong cost like a dollar back in its day. Half of the kitchen stuff is older than me.
You are just a man child.

>>20117059

>>20108657
>Invest in capital goods today
>Still have capital goods tomorrow
>Quality of life and productivity go up.

>Invest in consumption goods today
>Don't have consumption goods tomorrow
>Productivity stays where it is, quality of life stagnates or goes down.

>>20108657
>but they neglect to mention the thousands of dollars in various pots, pans, and utensils that you need to cook more than just oatmeal
Dollar store

>>20108657
Console gaming mindset

>>20108990
This has to be a troll post

>>20108657
>thousands of dollars in various pots, pans, and utensils
Nigga this isn't /o/ or /g/. The only way a kitchen instrument will cost you thousands is if you're buying ovens and fridges regularly.

>>20108657
>thousands of dollars
you can get most equipment at a secondhand shop, everything in my kitchen except my blender is secondhand

I paid $8.59 for 3.1 lbs of organic 80/20 beef the other day (got a discount cuz store fucked up). That's enough for 14 good-sized burgers.
Add a couple loaves of bread because buns are a scam and a pack of American cheese and you've got 14 cheeseburgers for $15. Buying that many from somewhere like McDonald's, you'll pay $39 (because cheeseburgers are $2.79 each now according to Google) plus tax and the burgers have a little less than half the amount of meat as your homemade ones would. In fact, to equal the exact same amount of meat as those 14 homemade burgers, you'd have to buy 31 McDonald's cheeseburgers for a grand total of $86.49.
A quarter pounder from McDonald's, which has 13% more meat than one of the burgers I can make with 3.1lbs of ground beef, is $3.79 so 14 of them would cost $53.
Either way, the McDonald's ones are lesser quality and cooking a burger requires no more skill than an ape could master (as evidence by the majority of burgerflippers) and no specialised equipment beyond a pan ($10) and a spatula ($1.25)
So $26.25 for 14 burgers of good quality and a near infinitely reusable pan and spatula or $39 for 14 smaller burgers. Which do you think is the better deal?

>>20108657
>Move to apartment
>First week, the stovetop breaks
>Landlord says it'll take a month to get a new one
>Use a pan and a dutch oven to cook 95% of my normal meals without any issues
Git good. You can get by and cook the majority of dishes for less than $100 worth of kitchen items easy, even less if you don't mind grabbing some pots/pans from Goodwill

>>20120294
Good point, I forgot to factor in the extra expense of transporting all the cooking utensils every time you move. The costs just keep stacking higher.

>>20108657
Telling people you are a dumbfuck without actually saying it

>>20115960
>big pot

https://youtu.be/ZL2zcbmmKYw
One $9 cooking pot, $12 worth of ingredients for a week's dinner that tastes better than a restaurant and takes 15 minutes to cook

wa la

>>20108667
fpbp, this thread did not need +100 replies. op is a lazy cooklet that gobbles up junk food and posts fast food threads

>>20119273
you usually end up spending more buying cheap pans. You're better off going to a thrift store.
>>20119306
Common core math. My guess is they're brown.

>>20119318
wut? If I go entry level to high end and buy all new:
Stainless:
10 inch fry pan 100 to 150
8 inch fry pan 70-100
2 quart pot 110-130
4 quart pot 130-160
8 quart stock pot 220-260
Cast iron:
12 inch 50
Crock Pot:
90
Casserole pans and baking platters
150
Cutting board:
150-300 USD (18 x 20 edge cut)
Knives:
Chef 130 -150
Santoku/Nakiri (one or the other not both) 130-150
pairing: 100
boning: 120

I lost count but yeah, I could easily spend a couple grand on kit that would last me a lifetime.

>>20120871
>Cutting board:
>150-300 USD
nigger what

>>20108657
I'm not american

>>20120988
One that isn't full of toxic glues.

>>20108657
>the thousands of dollars in various pots, pans, and utensils

It's the time and effort that makes cooking for myself a nope, beyond simple shit in the microwave and toaster oven.

I stopped at Taco Belle after work today and got five soft tacos (and two cheesy bean and rice burritos for tomorrow) and it cost me $14.50. Got home and ate them in about a half hour and tossed the wrappings.

All done.

How long would it have taken me to make soft tacos from scratch? And before you say anything, it's not just the actual cooking time, there's prepping all the ingredients and shopping for the ingredients and washing up all the cookware afterward.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

>>20121368
>How long would it have taken me to make soft tacos from scratch?
assuming you mean the filling and not literally making tortillas from scratch (which even then only takes like 30min), you could do this in 15 minutes including prep and cleaning, for a fraction of the cost of taco bell. you could take longer if you want to, but you can also make that very simply. I'm not including shopping time because you should be buying ingredients for many multiple meals at once when you shop, so that time ultimately pays off.
when you retards say shit like this you are just exposing yourself as having poor time and money management, or choosing overcomplicated recipes (or more than likely just don't know how to cook & clean efficiently lol)

>>20121368
JFC open a can of beans and slap it on a tortilla and microwave it until you hear a bean pop and there, you have Taco Bell at home

>>20120988
A cutting board is one of those things that should last forever.
That's the whole point of spending money on good equipment: so you only have to buy it once. I have smaller/cheaper boards for petty tasks but this is the workhorse my grandkids will inherit..after my kids are done with it.

>>20121368
>aint nobody got time for that
yes, you're fat
You eat garbage and watch garbage TV.

I enjoy cooking, fatty, and for me to make some tacos that are signifcantly better would cost me around 2 to 5 dollars.

The added benefit is my long term health will be better and you'll be on goy-pills for your bullshit digestive problems and obesity.

I can whip out tacos and be done with cleanup in less time it takes you to watch an episode of one piece or whatever slop tv you ingest instead of cooking or cleaning.

>>20108657
Filthy cocksucker
Nothing more need be said

>>20121395
>poor time and money management

I work 10 hour days and with drive time and such, I'm gone 12 hours a day.and again; you're ignoring all the prep and cleaning. I don't want to stand around my kitchen watching a stove for hours on end.

>>20121405
>JFC open a can of beans and slap it on a tortilla and microwave it

Come on now, Taco Belle is early haute cuisine but it's better then that and even cheep-o soft tacos have more ingredients, not to mention the burritos.

>>20121428
>you're fat

Actually, I'm not fat but whatever.

>>20121525
>Taco Belle is clearly not haute cuisine

Is what that should have said.

>>20121525
>you're ignoring all the prep and cleaning.
I am not. You can prep ground beef, onion, throw it in a pan, and clean, in under 15 minutes, no exaggeration. You chose a very simple meal as an example, not a great way to prove your point.

>>20121525
>you're ignoring all the prep and cleaning.
I am not. For a simple taco can prep ground beef, onion, throw it in a pan, prep some cheese and lettuce, and clean, in under 15 minutes, no exaggeration. You chose a very simple meal as an example, not a great way to prove your point (not that you have one).

>>20121416
My $40 acacia board from bed bath and beyond is 7 years old and is still just fine
Why do we need a 400 dollar end grain board?

>>20121416
That's just an expensive piece of plywood thoughie

>>20121559
>onion, throw it in a pan

So just drop a whole onion in the pan? Thanks, man!...

>>20121416
Why should your grandkids not have the experience of buying their own gear and instead wait until their granparens and then parents die so they can inherit a used cutting board that was high end 40 years prior when they're in their 50s? Do you expect each successive generation of your kin to be poorer than you? What were they supposed to have done before they reached middle age?

>>20121598
No, I said prep. You are deliberately mincing my words. It really does not take that much time to chop an onion bro.

I wonder if the people who complain they have no time for cooking spend any time watching television.
I remember cooking during gundam build fighters every Sunday when that was airing.

>>20108667
>buy cheap equipment and utensils
>chemicals leak into food and I get cancer
>need to spend tens of thousands of dollars on treatment
wow why the fuck is cooking so expensive?

>>20121654
how'd it turn out? what'd you cook?

>>20112643
It must be nice having a family that isn't despondent sociopaths looking to undercut you to feel powerful/steal joy from your life. Your dad sounds cool, I hope you let him know you love him.

>>20121665
That was 10 years ago, idk. Probably breakfast. Which would probably have been bacon and/or sausage, toast and/or pancakes, eggs, sliced jalapenos. Sandvich form optional.

>>20121659
retard

>>20121717
concession accepted

>>20121630

The point being that the _entire process_ of cooking does in fact take a bunch of time, FAR longer then hitting a fast food joint or even a nicer take-out joint (and lets not even get into preparing a "nice meal" that you could get in a restaurant) and that's time that could be better spent on literally anything other then fucking around in a kitchen.

I like eating good food (though I'll eat crap just to put fuel in the tank as it were) but hate everything else involved with it, it's just another chore like doing laundry or cleaning the bathroom, so of course many want to streamline this as much as possible.

>>20121416
A cutting board is a sacrificial surface. If it lasts forever it isn't doing its job.

>>20111063
That's a lot of pouring points.

>go on cooking board
>it's full of people who don't cook

>>20121900
>spend time cultivating a skill that almost nobody does anymore and can be endlessly abused to easily impress the people around me? no thanks, i could be sitting in my room jerking off or playing video games or watching the newest netflix slop instead

>>20121659
Tin foil hat, pally.

>>20121659
It's fucking pots and pans.
They aren't going to break on you unless you really suck.

>>20121900
god you're so fucking useless.

I used to be a cooking demonstrator/instructor and from the get go was given and expected to use extremely fine equipment. We had commercial show kitchens for prep and development. I walked away from that role with a full setup of some extremely nice stuff and an understanding of what made something nice and worth the money. The main thing to remember is prosumer level stuff is basically aimed at people with disposable income who want to flex with their hobby. Commerical grade stuff usually kicks the fuck out of most home stuff unless it is a rebadge and isn't actually very expensive in comparison. We'd sell stuff like tongs as seen in top kitchens for $20 when the commercial supply place were putting them out for $3 for example. If I had to go out today and replace all of my stuff at retail I admit it would be a lot of money, but I never bought it all at once at retail. Check out commercial suppliers and spend a couple of hundred bucks. We aren't talking a full stainless pan set, but you'll easily have all the high end accessories you could ever need.

>>20122484
I have a bunch of designer knives but use one plastic handle commercial knife more than all my other knives combined. If you can access a restaurant supply company, the value is pretty good for what you get. Problem is many of them only sell to businesses.

>>20121368
fuckin equatorial ass bitch

Ya damn my kitchen costs me 800 a month

>>20122484
Was Gordon Food Service the right choice all along?

>>20121368
>How long would it have taken me to make soft tacos from scratch?
Probably 10 minutes (the same amount of time you would spend in the drivethrough)

>there's prepping all the ingredients
You can do this in the time it takes to heat your pan up for tacos.

>shopping for the ingredients
If you go to the store once a week then we've probably spent about the same time shopping. The only difference is that you're retarded and conflate grabbing a week's worth of food with like an hour of "work"

>washing up all the cookware afterward
Washing a hot pan after cooking takes literally 15 seconds. Water, soap, sponge, wipe it down, put it on a drying rack/mat or dry it yourself. Same for the cutting board and knife. Fork/spoon and plate/bowl go in the dishwasher.

People like you who pretend cooking takes all of this effort are really just proclaiming that you're lazy retards.

>>20108657
>thousands of dollars in various pots, pans, and utensils
it doesn't cost that much.
but they also fail to take into account the time spent cooking and cleaning.
but the time cost can be minimized by developing your cooking skills and getting organized

>>20108657
I have a frying pan, a pot and a landlord-supplied stovetop. I can feed myself.
Stop making excuses.