/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>20113790
What a piece of shit human being

>>20113790
Coke nose.

>>20113790
It seems like a shortrib sandwich with cheese, not a grilled cheese

Fuck off.

>>20113790
>uses mayo
Based

>>20113790
His grilled cheese sandwiches would be a hell of a lot better with these bad boys.

>>20113790
HOW HARD IS IT
BREAD
BUTTER
CHEESE
YOU FUCKING MUPPET. YOU DONKEY.

>>20113790
Nothing about this is a grilled cheese
Why is there short rib? Chutney? I'm so confused

>>20113790
>Not really a grilled cheese
>Cheese isn't all the way melted
It looks tasty as fuck and I never liked the retards who can't cook taking jabs at him for easy internet points but this is not a proper grilled cheese redemption

>>20113790
What a fucking joke

>>20113799
fpbp

>>20113790
Cheese is unironically too melted. Also not a grilled cheese.

>>20113790
>calls a steak melt a grilled cheese
>grills it in the oven
>burns the bottom
>puts in so much cheese half of it drips out into the pan
Oh my goodness me.

>>20113868
>>20113864
Watching these kinds of shows I've noticed pretentious cooks often feel like they need to "justify" the dish by adding expensive ingredients and overcomplicating it. Like they can't accept that a good dish can be simple.
>>20113799
Nah he's just Bri'ish

>>20113877
if you put that much cheese in a sandwich and heat it in a pan, it better fucking be melted. unless cheese is a tertiary ingredient in a hot sandwich, it fucking melts.

>>20113790
So, It's confirmed Gordo lurks here.
Marco needs to come visit and make this histrionic narcissist cry again.
>Celebrity chefs are just talentless people with big personalities-Chef MW

>>20113790
Didn't he also try to shill a scrambled egg that looked like baby barf? I have vague memories of it. Wonder if he ever got heat for that too

>>20113984
It looks like some of it might not be melted, but you don't get to see a good closeup.

>>20113991
That's why I can't find a cookbook. It's all overcomplicated celeb trash.

>>20114011
You can't have looked very hard. The big centrepiece displays at the bookstore might be celeb trash, but there are plenty that focus on fundamentals and easily achievable recipes.

>>20113993
>Wonder if he ever got heat for that too
To be fair, those were French style scrambled eggs. End product was right, he just way over-complicated it to make himself seem more skilled than he is.
https://youtu.be/bqKq0bQHnZU

ALWAYS be wary of people who make everything they talk about to the extreme
>Beautiful!!
>Amazing!!
>Excellent!!
>PERFECT!!!
>OH MY GOODNESS ME!! LOOK AT THAT!!!1!

Fucking CHODE-YODELLER
>>20114011
>checked
Even worse is trying to get a decent recipe online. They ALWAYS want to show you fucking 25 glamour/foodpr0n pics while slowly doling out the recipe. It's getting hard to find an actual base recipe without trudging through pages of "Content"
Go with the classic cookbooks. Cooking has had VERY little real innovation in the last 20 years--just a flood of "Entertainment content"
there are still some good ones, like cook's country, or milk street, I guess, but even those seem to prone to faddish whims and marketing drive these days.

>>20114029
That's true. I usually walk through the bookstore, quickly flip through two books and give up. And that was a few years ago. I'll try again.

>>20113993
every celebrity chef who does french cuisine insists, with the utmost condescension and snobbery, that drinkable barf eggs are the only correct and proper way to do a scramble

>>20114029
This is also true.
Library is a great place to start. Also Goodwill.
There's also always going to archive.is and Libgen for looking up cookbooks.
Joy of cooking:
https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=143019868

In this day and age, you really don't have to have a sprawling shelf full of cookbooks, nor really even a printer.

>>20113790
Even Adam Raguesa knows how to make a grilled cheese sandwich. Mushrooms? Jalapeno jam? What the fuck is the point, it's a grilled cheese sandwich, all you need is fucking bread and cheese

If you can't make it well with minimum ingredients, you shouldn't be trying to pimp it out.

>>20114076
>bread and cheese
high quality salted butter is also essential, but otherwise correct

>grilled cheese redemption
>makes a panini instead
>cheese still unmelted
Note how quickly the camera cuts away from the cross section closeup to a wider shot from farther away. Gordon cannot into grilled cheese.
Celebrities aren't chefs. However, I will always enjoy his Kitchen Nightmares series because it exposes how disgusting restaurants can be.

>>20114083
Nah, I've made some great grilled cheese sandwiches in a dry pan or just in the oven under the grill. But I agree that butter does make a superior sandwich

>>20114069
I'd say Pepin is much easier-going than that.
Marco White too.
They both acknowledge that there are different styles that are just as valid. The key is they are well prepared, with fresh ingredients and following the fundamentals:
>Proteins wet
>Vegetables and pasta al dente,(unless puree)
>let the food's natural flavor shine through, don't just dump "Seasoning" on it.
>simplicity with high quality is better than rococo with processed sysco shit.
It really is the same with any master of a trade; Know your materials, have decent tools and maintain them, and have decades of skill to produce attractive and resilient results.

>>20114091
Everything in those shows is set up to be disgusting, anon. They find somewhere already a bit gross, make it worse, then the angry youtube chef man comes in and screams at people, then there's a redemption arc, then the finale is the place being respectable. I can't imagine enjoying that show with a triple digit IQ.

>>20114099
Reminds me of "nerds" who surround themselves with tech gadgets, meanwhile some autist on his Thinkpad can run circles around him. A bad workman is always looking for better tools.

>>20114105
>A bad workman is always looking for better tools.
I can't disagree, but a master of his craft knows a poor tool to begin with.
Now THAT might be a great show.
>Celebrity chefs
>Michelin tier menu
>Dull paring knives, garbage pots and pans and faulty cooking apparatus
>hilarity ensues
While it's true that a poor craftsman blames his tools, the Master craftsman doesn't use shitty ones to begin with.

>>20114117
For bar for a tool to be good enough to produce quality is shockingly low.

>>20114127
I *Think* i get what you mean.
Yes, a Truly skilled chef can almost work "magic" from an "empty" pantry a shitty 1 qt pan and a "Sharp enough" steak knife.
I wouldn't want to try to fillet a whitefish or remove silver skin with a dull butter knife though.

>>20114132
I mean that even a $20 kitchen knife can be brought to a good enough edge with a few passes of a honing rod.

>>20114137
Truly.
At least until the "teeth" are all gone.
I actually have a dollar store serrated bread knife that I've jealously guarded for ~20 years. It works better than my Henkels.
Having spent years in commercial kitchens, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the good old Sysco white handled knives,as long as you watch the retards like a hawk. I've seen guys use their own knives to punch holes in #2 juice cans.
Made me shudder even though they were using the heel of the knife.

>>20113790
That's great of him, I think he's a very swell guy

>>20114100
My family is in the restaurant industry. I've "worked" in a French restaurant when I was maybe 5 years old: Sometimes my momma couldn't get a babysitter so she just brought me to her work, haha. So not only are they allowing me to help peel potatos, they had rats, roaches, and cut heaps of corners for profit from what I remember and from what my mom has told me.
If you think there aren't naturally occurring kitchens that are WORSE than anything shown there, you are living a fantasy I want a part of. Nevertheless, I consider that show to be reality TV so of course there will be fakery.

I like Gordon. He thought me that you can save money on salt by wiping the cutting board with sweat

>>20114336
when chrischan recycles he’s considered a freak. when gordon recycles he’s considered a savant. why is that?

>>20113799
Found the MPWcel.

>>20114336
To be fair, the part of the cloth he dabbed his head with was in his hand, not directly touching the board
but
>why season with sea salt when you can use sweat salt

>>20113864
WHY DOES HE DO OIL AND BUTTER, SHOULDNT IT BE EITHER OR

>>20113799
but enough about yourself

>>20113836
dont post pictures of my wife

>>20113790

>>20114661
Supposed to dilute the burnt butter taste because usually you do that with a high smoke oil not EVOO(unless he's using that refined gutter olive oil)

ramsey's burger place at vegas had the best burger, best home-made ketchup and best fries
he is the best

>>20114931
Could you taste the styling gel in every bite?

>>20113790
thats a melt

>>20114939
my friend actually caught ramsey at that exact restaurant few years ago, so you can get him to spit on your plate if you really want to
he actually tours his places apparently and keeps them in shape
I sat at the counter overlooking the kitchen and the team was working like an oiled machine, faster than "fast food" places
you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

>>20114336

>>20114970
oh and by the way the fucking burger took 40min+ to get anyway lmao, they're just so slammed all the time being on the strip

>>20113991
>So, It's confirmed Gordon lurks here.
No wonder why he started selling TV Dinners.

>>20113790
>not a grilled cheese sandwich
>cheese still isn't molten
>still taps the knife for no fucking reason

>>20114981
I went once years ago and the burger was delicious but it gave me explosive diarrhea that I almost shat my pants looking for a bathroom

>>20114990
Did find unmelted chunks of cheese in the toilet?

>>20113790
What he should've done:
>sourdough bread
>mayo on one slice, Kerrygold butter on the other
>blend of white cheddar, muenster, and smoked gouda
>also make bechmel with lager, similar to welsh rarebit, and put on top
>cut into triangles
>serve with hot basil-tomato soup

>>20113993
That was overcooked Hollandaise, not scrambled eggs.

>>20114990
Someone I know in real life also got food poisoning from a burger from the same restaurant, what the fuck

>>20113790
it's amazing how he doesn't understand what he's trying to make

the shitty grilled cheese that drunk college students make at 2 am are easier to make and taste better than his fancy cousine

two slices of bread
butter on one side
cheese on the other
maybe season, but not necessary

that's it

>>20113993
it looks gross, but it tastes really good
creme fraiche + butter

>grilled cheese: :|
>Gordon Ramsay™ griiled cheese: :O

>>20113982
>huurrhuuur le bri'ish hehe
Go back

>>20114205
>>20114137
You two wanna get a room together so you can actually fuck, instead of just wanking eachother off?

>>20116036
>easier to make
absolutely
>and taste better
doubt

>>20113790
Tis a fine sandwich but tis no grilled cheese, english.

>>20114990
clean it up janny

>>20114076
>MACON, Ga. — Food YouTuber Adam Ragusea, noted for seasoning his X instead of his Y and dousing it in white wine, passed away unexpectedly in his kitchen in Macon, Georgia, Thursday.
Anon, how do I tell you this…

In defense of Gordon, he put a shitload of cheese on that sandwich. 5 slices and something like 4 handfuls.

>>20113804
kek did you see that thing fall out of it at 0:41??

>>20113982
>after adding your fillet beef to your corn beef hash, give it a generous splash of extra virgin olive oil and grate some truffle over it.

>>20116790
Overcompensating.

>>20113790
nooo he fucked up again XDDDD how??????

>>20113862
Disgusting, these are the only real option.

Wow I thought he was taking the piss with the tassie grilled cheese, but it would seem he has legitimately lost the plot.

>>20113790
other than a couple of seasonings i have literally none of that in my kitchen. you also won't ever find me trying to overengineer a grilled chee drunk at 2am. the most experimental ingredient i ever used was garlic salt.

>>20116967
There are 2 legit areas for experimentation:
>type of cheese: you are within your rights to run the spectrum from Velveeta to Brie
>toppings: feel free to add chives, bacon bits, fried onions
But the cheese must be plentiful, and melted, and gooey, and the bread must be pan-fried in either butter or mayo for absorption of delicious fat while still getting crispy.

>>20113790
The bottom is burned to hell, that's why he didn't show it or take a bite.

>>20113790
and he still fucked it up. Unbelievable.

>>20116790
and that’s disgusting

why is he so shit

>>20117493
he’s a brand, not a chef

>>20113790
Trying to melt semi-hard cheese between two thick slices of crusty bread is doomed for failure. If he had a proper oven instead of a little fireplace it's possible he would be able to have enough ambient heat to melt the cheese. But pretending as though he succeeded was a bit preposterous. At least the concept was original, this just seems like elaborate goyslop.

Maybe when you're a professional chef you make so much fancy food you forget how to make simple things like sandwiches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRonzIW9T5U

>>20116986
>bread must be pan-fried in either butter or mayo for absorption of delicious fat while still getting crispy.
olive oil my man

Beautiful

>>20116799
Damn I just saw it. I think he really is on coke

>>20113966
>too melted
this is schizophrenic rambling

>>20113790
This shriveled prune doesn't even know what a grilled cheese sandwich is. Smh

>>20113790
that part at 0:40 where he spits onto his prep saying the word jalapeno jam. yum, I hope he gave that sandwhich to someone.

>>20117836
The bottom is completely burned, no one would eat it. He didn't even want it.

>>20116914
thats made by the same company...

>>20117836
holy gross. this old man has lost it

>>20113790
looks burned on the bottom

>>20113790
>the fucking comments
Even normies see through this chicanery

Also WHY DOES HE TAP THE KNIFE?

>>20114661
Don't forget the mayonnaise

>>20117804
Olive oil-based mayo
Check mate

>>20118805
>t. Jon Favreau
Jesus Christ Jon, it's just a Grilled Cheese

>>20113991
let’s make this quite clear, he CHOSE to cry

>/ck/ - celebs & e-celebs

>>20113790
The fucking panini head should have just made a simple grilled cheese with kraft singles. Trying to make more fancy bullshit just invites people to keep up the meme

I never ate grilled cheese as a kid and the one time I tried making it as an adult was when I was sick and it made me puke almost. is it actually good or just a meme that kids with lazy parents remember eating? if I was going to make a sandwich with cheese I would want to put other stuff on too like tomato or meat or onions, but then it wouldn't just be grilled cheese anymore.

>>20119191
Mostly lazy parents. Although in college I would order a grilled cheese at the bar occasionally when smashed and of course it was always great in that circumstance

>>20119191
Sorry but we're gonna have to revoke those dubs if you're going to judge a food based on making it once, with no properly-prepared basis for comparison, when you were already SICK. Toppings are permissible but bread, cheese, and butter are really all that's required for a delicious comfort food (ideally paired with tomato soup).

>>20119191
Depends. Are you using good bread and good cheese, the shit plastic cheese and cakey white bread? Well it's hard to make a bad grill cheese, just need to toast the bread and melt the cheese. I use mayo on mine in place of butter, makes a nicer toast than butter at least for my tastes.

It really is only as good as the ingredients, Gordon just keeps trying to fluff it up and so makes shit grilled cheeses. It has thre ingredients, the bread, the cheese and what you spread to fry the bread, butted, oil, mayo, fucking fairy shit whatever.

>>20119198
I used bread I had made for chicken panini. aside from the being sick part it was underwhelming because it was basically just eating the sandwich I had made before but without the chicken, bacon, or tomato.

>>20114970
>professional chefs were making fast food quicker than high schoolers who are high on weed
Impressive

>>20114049
Cozy video.

>>20119195
Did you actually revoked dubs??

>>20119185
It's the coke. He's blinded by it.

>>20113862
That shit ain't real cheese. Hell it ain't even really american since the inventor is fucking canadian.

>>20113799
kek

>>20113790
>redemption
>adds shrooms and shit to something that should be so fucking simple that a child could do it
Jesus fucking christ. Someone tell that scottish blockhead that all he needs is some toast, butter and a slice or two of cheddar cheese! What he made is like a fucking burger!

>>20113790
i'll say this for the pathetic, pedantic, cocaine-fueled, crag faced bogger, whoever did his hair plugs and face-life did an amazing job.

>>20113790
That looks scrumptious and he obviously has a good sense of humour about his mistakes. It's not his fault time was so tight, but he owns up to it and has a bit of a laugh at himself. Good sport. And now with this masterpiece, nobody can doubt his skills.

>>20120407
wow the ai bots sound exactly like his shitty pr team

does Marco have a grilled cheese video recipe? He should make one otherwise just for taking the piss.

>>20114661
keeps le butter from burning, they say. I don't know if it's true but I like it so I keep doing it

>>20120511
It's not true, but they do have very different flavors.

>>20119191
grilled cheese is one of the things i was taught to cook first to learn heat control

>>20119074
If he didn't say that, I would doubt the story. Fucking savage mpw

>>20120469
how do you use knorr stock pot to make grilled cheese though?

>>20120145
Uhh... what continent do you think Canada is located on?

>>20113799
Fpbp fuck this Epstein cunt

>>20117697
When you're a popular tv chef you realise nobody wants to watch you make a basic cheese sandwich.

>>20116949
nvm. He's still taking the piss. LOL what a sick lad.

>>20120977
yeah paradoxically the only reason people would wanna see a normal grilled cheese is because he first made a shit grilled cheese. but that’s just the big brain celeb play to keep people talking about you

the haircut alone needs redemption
also, never use Mayo on grilled cheese
god damned brits
garlic+oregano-infused butter or die.

>>20121818
also, compulsory "least saggy man-tits from the British isles" post

>>20120905
North pole

>>20121818
It's zoomer broccoli head style without the perm because that would make it too obvious. He thinks it makes him look young.

>>20113790
turned it off once he started chopping up the third ingredient that wasn't cheese

>>20121943
A normal person would skip to the end to laugh at the result.

>>20121818
>>20121823
is he the ugliest most famous man alive?
who else even comes close?

>>20122012
Quentin Tarantino

The only ingredients in a perfect grilled cheese are just lots of butter, white bread, and two Kraft Singles slices. For a slightly less perfect grilled cheese, you could use mayo in place of some of the butter.

Grilled cheese isn't supposed to be some fancy gourmet crap.

>>20122060
Cheddar or even colby tastes better than kraft slices. The only reason to use kraft slices is if you have no idea how to control temperature.

>>20122060
for me, it's regular ass wonderbread, one slice of cheese, and butter. i tried mayo once, it worked but it didn't taste good. any more than one slice of american when it's the only thing in the sandwich, no thanks

>>20122085
You don't get the right grilled cheese taste with cheddar or colby.

is this true?

>>20113790
for me? it's the patty melt, the best grilled cheese sandwich

>>20122060
no real grilled cheese uses those piece of shit fraft slices except for the shitty ones your dumb ass mom cooked for you.

>>20122149
it depends. does it have to be good?

>>20113790
Why can't Amerilards just sit and watch something in real life? They always have to be holding up their smartphones recording it like a drooling fucking baboon nigger retard even when there's obviously a professional camera crew getting the best shot anyways. It's really irritating.

>>20122239
As dumb as americans are this is obviously not just an american trait

>>20122239
As an american I can tell you this is the most disgusting country on planet Earth. The jews have won
>>20113790
Gordon Ramsay literally fucks he has 100 kids.

>>20114091
>>20113790
Crazy how he refuses to just put it in the microwave.

>>20119074
>>20113991
When is Marco going to make a grilled cheese and tame his student?

>>20113978
he's clearly milking it
he'll be 90 and make a grilled cheese video where he does it right then says it's terrible or something retarded
keep watching!

>>20114336
>seasoning cutting board
Gordon is so low he's now copying Ragusea

>>20122239
what upsets me the most is the retards insisting on recording in portrait mode like they've never held a camera that wasn't part of a phone before. then they come here and complain that their images are sideways. someone needs to find a way to hack all of the phones in the world and make them emit some kind of radiation pulse that will sterilize their users so these morons will stop reproducing.

>>20122239
3 out of 16 people are doing that.

>>20113790
i like the part at 2:00 where the camera slowly corrects the angle to fit in the watch advertisement. i wonder how much that company paid him to wear it.

>>20113790
gordon always has to rush everything, het adds tons of unnecessary ingredients, burns the toast, and cheese still not fully melted. what a retard

>>20114988
>still taps the knife for no fucking reason
guess he learned that from salt bae

>>20122239
its FOMO

>>20115015
That's not a grilled cheese. It's a deconstructed bread bowl

gordon is a highly trained professional, he doesn’t need to hear all this

>>20123852
That reference is older than a lot of the people on this board.

Do not want. Look at all the cheese that he put in there and the sad cheesepull he managed to get. He overdid it again and fucking It up all the same.
It's embarrassing when Jamie fucking Oliver makes a better grilled cheese than you. What was that show he did with that farmer friend of his? In one ep of that, he made grilled cheese sandwiches. It was simple and it was good and it had a nice cheesepull.

>>20124125
this is typically gordon, overdoing everything by adding more ingredients to make it seem fancy, but he cannot even nail the basics of preparing it correctly. because he is always in a rush, like an ADHD kid

him adding peas, mushrooms, garlic, chili, parsley, streaky bacon, smoked bacon (instead of just the way tastier pancetta or guanciale if you do it the traditional way) to a carbonara. again overdoing it with the ingredients, rushing it like an ADHD kid, he barely has any passion left.

Is this the series you mean? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4410458/

Everyone can make grilled cheese. gordon just needs to do it in an impossible time frame. a pan grilled cheese just takes time to do it correctly. i think gordon was good in his prime but nowadays... ugh

>>20113804
?

>>20117697
> widescreen.jpg
kek

>>20122235
for gorgon ramsey it does

>>20124361
>Is this the series you mean?
Yes, though I didn't think it was that one. I was thinking it was another show they'd done together called Food Fight Club, but it was, in fact, FNF, yes. It's only been a few years since it went off air and I'd already forgotten the format, thinking it was just set in the cafe the whole time rather than having segments set and filmed elsewhere. The sandwich in question was done in his back garden over open flame, iirc. Lemme see if I can find video

>>20113790
Mistake 1: using thick sliced bread again. This CAN work, but you have to cook it on really low fire for like 20 minutes for it to cook through. Or you can steam it for 5 minutes then uncover it and raise the heat to toast top and bottom to get it crispy.

Mistake 2: wrong type of mushroom for grilled cheese. Mushrooms CAN work, but they must not be this type and must be sliced thin or in tiny pieces so to not interfere with cheese pull

Mistake 3: making a chutney jam for a grilled fucking cheese

Mistake 4: cutting thick ass pieces of ginger and then thinking that will soften or you can cook out the intensity of that by sauteeing it for 5minutes. Posssibly the worst part of this whole recipe

Mistake 5 : thick ass slices of short rib

Mistake 6: only toasting, and possiblyburning, only one side of the sandwich at the end. Leaving the top softer, unequal cooking on top and bottom

Mistake 7: overseasoning . You dont have to season the fucking cheese you tard. Good cheddar and gruyere cheese has enough flavor and is sharp enough on its own.

>>20124683
>>20124361
It was this one.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WZOgBrgzQ2A
So it wasn't FNF but rather Comfort Food and Jimmy wasn't involved at all.
Jamie's had so many things on TV that it's hard to keep track what came from which show

>>20124709
>making a chutney jam for a grilled fucking cheese
It's nice as a side or sauce to dip into but not actually IN the fucking thing.

>>20124710
i've watched the video and i definitely will be trying it to make a grilled cheese this way next time, will raise the setting my induction stove from 5 to 6 at 3 mins a side and do the cheese afterwards. i think it looks kinda weird with the "crown" tho, will make it so it just covers the bread.

this simple but slightly elevated grilled cheese is better than gordons.. thanks for sharing.

>>20113790
Holy shit, I can't believe he actually responded to the allegations

>>20124709
I would agree with pretty much everything on this list. My main take-aways:
>It's a grilled cheese, didn't need any of the extra shit
>Pretty much everything was cut too thick, especially the ginger (see previous point)
>Insists on using retarded "old-school" kitchen utensils to cook like that sandwich press thing. "Just use a spatula and flip it, you rantallion"

grilling cheese

me and my buddy tunechi and also dustin were raid my dad's fridge and dust says hey man do ya think we can have some of that cheeeeeese

>>20116161
sneed