/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>20017746
screw that faggy dago pot, a mr coffee is all you need

>>20017749
it's funny you put it like that when the moka pot is both cheaper and less complicated. and wal-mart literally stocks them both. I actually have both, I use the moka on weekends and for camping

>>20017746
don't if it's a known thing but i found out that if you turn off the heat when the water's almost coming out and let the grounds bloom the coffee tastes differently, less acidic

>>20017746
>already spent $700 worth of an espresso machine with extra equipment
>it arrives tomorrow
>see this post
>come to my senses and want to kill myself
It’s over.

>using an aluminum vessel to make highly acidic substance under high heat

yikes, enjoy your leeching i guess

I like my aeropress, cost like $35. Not exactly espresso but I don’t think the difference is worth the price. moka pot is a close second, but is harder to clean

>>20017796
>Aeropress
Lol, lmao even.

>>20017746
Yes

>>20017780
It's coated you fucking moron

>>20017816
tastes good, is cheap

>>20017759
That's literally how everyone I've watch use one has ever done it. Are you saying that people normally let the coffee sputter fucking everywhere over the flame or that you mistakenly thought that's how you're meant to do it?
t. from Italy

>>20017769
>only $700
You ain't spend shit lmao

>>20017746
What about Neapolitan coffee makers? My grandma used to use one but my mother always hated so she always used the regular stovetop one in your pic as do most people I've known.

>>20017796
That's a fleshlight.

>>20017746
I like pourovers. It seems a lot easier to keep the tools clean than a moka pot and is lower tech than a moka pot which I prefer

OH MY SCIENCE, did you just brew a cup of coffee??? uhmm, do you know it's actually not espresso, right chud?

>>20017746
Truth
The only thing I hate is having to clean it every day otherwise it's gonna start tasting like burnt coffee, and since it's aluminium can't even put it in the dishwasher

>>20017746
I just use a perk. Mokas are a waste of time.

>>20017746
Actually all you need is instant coffee

>>20017746
I have one but never use it. Pourover tastes better and is less hassle for me.
I have a Kähler Baristo that I use if I'm just making one cup for myself in the morning.

>>20017746
I. Really enjoying how TXD has taken off, where X is an arbitrary variable for something I hate.

>>20017746
I like my French press though

>>20017746
Whats the best way to clean this thing?

>>20018370
sponge and soap

>>20017746
What the fuck is "picrel"? Some kind of fish?

>>20018376
Vinegar no soap you are crazy>>20018370

>>20017746
>Picrel is all you need to make coffee

>>20018395
It's italian for "moka pot"

>>20017746
i use a french press and like it just fine :)

>>20017746
I use a drip machine my parents got as a wedding gift in the 80s. It doesn't burn the coffee like a moka pot. You just like the way it looks.

>>20017746
I need less

>>20018610
You need a disposable filter that you have to continuously buy more of, a plastic cone to fit the filter into, a receptacle to catch the brewed coffee and a kettle to boil the water in separately.
>>20017746 needs >>20017746. That's it.
Which is actually less?

>>20018575
>burn the coffee
Are you >>20017759? Stop leaving the flame on.

>>20018635
You also need a scale to weigh the coffee correctly and a grinder. Pourover is one of the most autistic methods

>>20017746
Actually based and redpilled.

Moka pots have SOVL as demonstrated by this video here: https://www.picnob.com/post/6812444222472052652319/

>>20018635
>disposable filter
You can reuse them (I don't)
And they're super cheap talking $3 for 500
>plastic cone to fit the filter into
? Not sure what this is referring to. You just put the filter into the Dripper
>a receptacle to catch the brewed coffee
You can just use your mug
>kettle to boil water in separately
Already had one

>>20018635
Just use a a little metal mesh filter instead. Some people use a flannel cloth I hear.

>>20018641
To be fair, I use a scale, too. Unlike my mum, who used >>20017746 up to her dying day, I prefer a different method and weighing it gives me the most consistent results.

>>20018675
>Dripper
>Already had [a kettle]
As well you should have, but if you, say, go camping like >>20017752 does, which is more to pack and which is less?
I actually do have a filter cone but mine is metal and I use it almost exclusively to filter frying oil. If I want voice dripped into my cup directly, I use a phin.

>>20018722
>>20018675
Oh, and the dripper is the plastic cone I was talking about in>>20018635, if that wasn't clear.

>>20017769
At least wait until you have your first cup...

>>20018610
>>20018675
I find these much easier to use than the moka pot and easier to clean as well. The only downside is the disposable paper filters.

>>20018009
THIS.
All else is pompous frippery.
and electric kettle, a Braun grinder and a Bodum pourover.
extra easy with #4 cone filters for clean up, and it produces the same amount as drip makers in HALF the time.
So many people offer me coffee from a Keurig all the time--how do they not taste the hot plastic taste and how weak the coffee is.

>>20018610
>>20018736
Looks good for entertaining, but with one of these
>pic
You can even get rid of the paper filters

>>20017780
That's why you buy a stainless steel moka pot, duh.

>>20017780
>not internally coating your body with Aluminium this way

>>20018736
>>20018760
>not using paper filters
Enjoy your extra cholesterol

Mmmm I love my coffee brewed in piece of plastic and poured through paper mmmmmm

>>20017746
*press button on coffee machine with built-in grinder*
Wa la.

>>20017987
no i mean i let it bloom but before it comes out, wait more or less a mininute, and then turn the heat back on on low and let it come out

I like my moka pot, but it's too time consuming to clean. I don't wanna wait for that shit to cool.

>>20018876
and never use bleached paper it tastes exactly that

>>20017746
Is it faster every morning than an espresso machine though? Can you make good milk drinks with it though?

unfortunately those make shit coffee.
Just get a french press.

>>20018876
>Enjoy your extra cholesterol
YES! Cholesterol is GOOD for you.
...Uh, wait...
Since when did plants contain cholesterol??
Did you perhaps mean phytosterols, retard?
Besides...I do use unbleached filters.

>>20019083
>Unfiltered brewed coffee contains diterpenes cafestol and kahweol, more commonly referred to as lipids or oils, that can elevate LDL cholesterol. According to a 2020 study published by the European Journal of Preventive Cardiology, "unfiltered coffee contains 30 times more diterpenes than a cup of filtered coffee1". Diterpenes release during brewing and are easily and effectively removed from brewed coffee with a filter - the finer the pores / holes in the filter, the more effective the filtration.

>>20018752
>how do they not taste the hot plastic taste
You're also passing hot liquid through plastic, are you not?

>>20018644
Look the instagrammer retard has to advertise in multiple threads. Maybe he'll hit double digit followers by new years eve.

Please don't bully Mokafrà for shilling his Instagram. That behavior is far preferable to his homerotic spamming of that Italian man.

>>20019127
He's a faggot. Fags must be...

>>20019127
Didn't even bother clicking the link. Italian rats have such a distinct odor.

>>20019127
>that Italian man.
Literally who?

ahem

>>20019116
>Fukumoto Y.
Intredasting, but it seems this is only a comment on THIS STUDY:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32320635/
Hard as HELL to track down the original study, and the methodology seems rife with other variables not taken into account.
To be fair, I only skimmed the study, but see for yourself...

>>20019120
Not so much, the filter screen is stainless steel.

>>20019166
>checked, but...

>BLOCKS your PATH

>>20019172
That study is enough for me to follow it until more information comes out

>>20019188
Wise choice when tracking down hard info that hasn't been digested by 6 other sources for "Flash Headlines"
I tend to take them with a heavy dose of skepticism anyway, having met some of the scientists who do the studies--often through universities, which while they can CLAIM no COI, very often have the tacit understanding that if the results aren't favorable to a profitable cause, the next round of funding isn't likely.
>if only you knew just how bad things really are

>ctrl+f
>Turkish
>0 results
You don't even need this to make coffee. Hot water and ground roasted beenz in any configuration usually results in coffee.

>>20017975
I scrubbed mine vigorously with soap and a sponge so I guess it's no longer coated.

>>20019160
Do. Not. Ask.

>>20017746
IDK anon, moka pot is a fine implement, but you are just coping and seething.

>using plastic
>for a hot beverage
Do cu/ck/s really!?!?!!?!?
Don’t forget to dilate today I guess

>>20017746
I had an Italian style like picrel but I once left it on the stove too long and the gasket melted. This guy got himself a stainless steel percolator in the camping section of a department store: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bYSbja_-Uk

>>20017746
Based and mokapilled

>>20018935
Nigger, just place it under cool running tap water and it's cool in 30 seconds.

ENTER

>>20017746
That's an awfully hot coffee pot.

>>20020570
only for the based and skilled baristas.

I love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe

>>20017769
Moka pot is underwhelming but if you bought a $700 espresso machine and had this reaction, you should feel bad about yourself

>>20020941
Is it worth getting if I don't plan to mess around with upgrades and mods for a while? I might use it for like a year vanilla or something.
Also not the one in your pic but the newer Classic Evo Pro

>>20019282
How does this compare to a GCP?

pouroverfags and those saying instant don’t understand that there’s anything but drip coffee. pour over and french press can make a very nice cup of drip strength coffee, but you can get near espresso strength with a moka pot or aeropress. I don’t think anything really gets it the same as an espresso machine but I’m not about to buy one, and going to a coffee shop daily is pretty gay, so it’s the aeropress for now

>>20020570
Where do I get the magic sand though?

>>20020941
Which is better. This or the Sage Bambino ?

>>20017746
I actually just use a pot and decant the coffee to remove the grounds

>>20017780
Do you think there is any way to get back at ceramic, glass, and proper metal cookware buyers so that they can't feel superior for having intentionally avoided purchasing products that poison them?
t. dad literally gave me old tubes with liquid metal in them to play with

>>20017780
>eat with metal cutlery that has been sprayed with water running through plastic pipes every day for your entire life
i sleep
>eat genetically engineered fruit covered in pesticides
i sleep
>drive a car with rubber tyres that creates such fine pollution when driven that you inhale it every single time you step outside
i sleep
>look at digital screens for ten hours a day that are known to give you headaches and make you near-sighted
i sleep
>use a microwave multiple times a day, every day for 50 years straight, which literally fries whatever is in front of it using radiation
i sleep

>use an internally coated metal vessel that is perfectly safe to make coffee a couple of times a week
REAL SHIT NIGGA

>>20021367
>which literally fries whatever is in front of it using radiation
Can I have your microwave? I want to be irradiated too.
Mine is cringe and just fries whatever is inside of it.

>>20019235
Don't worry you'll forget about it soon

>>20021367
Why does post quality around here drop so hard when british people have lunch and dinner?

LITERALLY all you need.

>>20021377
All mine does is bounce 2.45GHz/12cm microwaves around inside the box and heats water-laden parts of the outside 10mm of my food in hope that they'll transfer that heat to the rest of my food. I wish it fried things.

>>20017746
Just use a French press it's just simpler

>>20021453
Just use a pot and some ground coffee, it's simpler.

>>20021367
>>look at digital screens for ten hours a day that are known to give you headaches and make you near-sighted
FUCK. Is this why I'm near sighted as shit? Is there no way to reverse it at all now in my 20s?

>>20022070
I just got LASIK done on my eyes for nearsightedness. Was it all for nothing if I keep staring at screens all day?

>Not using hot water in your mess cup
>Not using your ration’s packet of instant coffee type 2

>>20017816
>having an opinion

>>20018009
>lower tech than a Moka pot
What?

>>20021174
One of the main reasons to get a GCP over something nicer out of the box is because you can mod it when you feel like it, but still have something useable until then. I just got the pro evo and have been starting to learn to use it, and I plan to eventually get around to modding it out with a gaggiuino at some point down the line.

For what you'd pay for the silvia you might as well just get a Profitec Go to have PID out of the box.

>>20021266
both are pretty unimpressive out of the box, but the gaggia is made to last and easy to upgrade to make something really nice, while breville/sage makes disposable consumer-grade stuff that you can't really do anything with other than chuck it in the garbage when it dies and get something else.

>>20023760
a cone that you pour water into is a less complex mechanism than a pot that forces pressurized water up through a spout past a bed of coffee and out the top and comes apart into several pieces that need to be cleaned individually with hard to reach areas.

>>20017746
>not starting your day with a crisp Diet Pepsi
Enjoy your bitter bean juice I guess

>>20021367
>use a microwave multiple times a day

>>20018395
In case not bait, it's short for "pic related"

>>20018395
Picrel is short for pickled mackerel. P.rel.

>>20025895
The short form of 'pic related' is p.rel, see above.

>>20017746
>you have to buy six gorillion dollars worth of coffee equipment to get 0.1% better extraction!!!

Why is coffee the only food or drink subjected to this?

>>20025599
I miss that show like you wouldn't believe.

>>20017746
french press is cheaper and better

>>20022509
>>20022070
you can have the lenses in front of your eyes laser beamed a few times, but the real cause is straining to look at something to close to you and stationary, which causes the eye to warp over time to adjust which can't be fixed with surgery

>>20018610
Literally my daily driver and I have a dual boiler espresso machine in my kitchen

>>20018950
>he doesn't rinse
ngmi

This thread is fucking useless. Just tell me the best way to make coffee.

>>20027029
I guess in the end the best way to make coffee is the friends you made along the way.

>>20027029

>>20017746
Pourover is cheaper and simpler than a moka pot though

>>20025895
"Pic related is all you need to make coffee" doesn't make any sense though. "Pic related" doesn't mean "the thing in the picture".

>>20027029
The best method for preparing coffee is entirely up to personal preference. Some constants exist, however. Fresher roasted beans will be superior to older roasted beans, and grinding beans just before brewing will be superior to pre-ground.
As for the brewing methods, the big three are:
>pourover
Ground coffee is placed into a vessel with some kind of filtration on the bottom, that vessel is placed over a collection container (mug, carafe). Hot water is poured over and through the ground coffee in a controlled manner.

>immersion
Ground coffee and (usually hot, sometimes cold) water are mixed together and allowed to sit for some time. The coffee is then poured into surving cups. Coffee may or may not be filtered.

>espresso
Finely ground coffee is compressed into a 'puck'. Pressurized hot water is then passed through the puck. Pressures range from 3 to 15 bars of pressure, but most people brew with 6 to 9 bars.

You can't really know what's the 'best' for you until you've tried a few different brewers, coffee to water ratios, and techniques.

>>20027029
get a cheap drip machine

>>20027172
Just fuck off back to Plebbit. Holy shit.

>>20027205
But I'm right.

>>20027284
no, no, you're new. possibly the newest

>>20017746

>Great value instant coffee
>Water from the office instant hot water boiler

Let me guess you need more?

>>20027538
Yes. Milk. And a little sugar. Instant coffee is only good when milked and sweetened.

>>20027194
I prefer to combine all three methods. I use a Clever dripper to merge pourover and immersion, then put the brewed coffee in the water tank of my espresso machine

>>20017746
>not boiling coffee in a pot

You're correct,these fancy espresso machines suck dick.Plus it has the benefit that it can be used anywhere as long as you can make a fire

I have a fancy espresso machine and it does not in fact, suck dick. I have some hard to explain burns and a slightly weird warranty claim to prove it

>>20027539
Yeah if you're a little bitch boy

>>20027029
french press