/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>Asian Continental
>with French inspiration
sounds fucking delicious OP

>>19858836
Me love it long time

>>19858836
a vietnamese joint just opened up
>in the middle of farm-country PA
>in a fucking farmers market
>in an area where NOBODY wants to try anything new
They're doing crazy business and it's a cash-only business. That shit is pretty good.

>>19858836
Banh mi is fucking goated, how did those VCs get pickled vegetables so right?

>>19858843
God I love colonial fusion food
You can really taste the colonialism

>>19858836
highly complex, yet can be simple. I only developed my deep appreciation for it after learning. Used to be a high octane weaboo myself, what a shame.

>>19858907
This is why taco bell is the best

It's pretty coozy, would actually go outta my way to get some

Ive only eaten banh mi but it fucking rocks

It's okay. Nothing special.

>>19858907
Based.

>>19858836
There are many soups in the world almost as good - but none better - than Phở

luv pho
luv bahn mis
'ate those floppy shrimp egg rolls
simple as

I lived in a city with a vietamese french bakery. Most restraunts got their banh mi bread from that place. Now even if the insides are delicious the bread just doesn't cut it.

>>19858956
Adding to that, if you can find a Vietnamese crawfish restaurant, they are amazeballs
The colonialism takes a back seat to the war trophy squaw wife vibe, but it's still in there with a solid cajun twist

>>19858836
I want to impregnate a Vietnamese girl after she cooks for me

>>19859295
>vietamese french bakery
If you are looking for french baguettes, get French baguettes from a French-style bakery. If you are looking for Banh Mi, get Vietnamese Banh Mi. These two are not interchangeable, even though western people usually call them both baguettes

>>19859337
are you British per chance?

>>19858836
They have this amazing pork + rice plate, I think it's called thit nuong. It's marinated with lemongrass.

>>19858843
this

>>19858836
Vietnamese food in the west is actually better than in vietnam, a rare phenomenon. Vietnam is an overrated travel destination as well.

>>19858836
Their soup is phonominal.

Love it. Pho places are fairly common around NJ. Also I'm a weirdo and get chicken pho rather than the beef pho.

>>19859361
I heard it's better cause all the refugees are great cooks. Also heard it's a lot cleaner in the west. My friend went to vietnam and said there were flies all over the meat there.

We did have an issue with Lee's sandwiches using non FDA approved meat. Have no idea where they were sourcing their meat from.

>>19859361
>>19859662
They have real competition here
Not just other Vietnamese restaurants, they know in their hearts they have to compete against everything from Burger King to Texas de Brazil

>>19858836
I love it desu

>>19859662
>My friend went to vietnam and said there were flies all over the meat there.
you can either source your meat from two places in Vietnam big cities: your typical groceries stores, which can have a fresh (very chilled) meat section as well as actually frozen section (mostly import). Or go straight to the farmer spot / wet market, witness the protein source getting stabbed, drained and butchered alive, you can buy the meat when it's still literally hot. And you know what heat, entrails and the tropical climate attract? Exactly.
What your friend said is just a single facet, and some exaggeration for fun (in case you haven't figured out).
If you DO go to the countryside, then yes, there will be lots lots lots of flies everywhere, you don't even need to have meat outside. May God have mercy on you because those flies won't.

>>19858836
It's pretty tasty but can be a bit of slop.
Ironically, pho is easily their shittiest dish and does not hold a candle to any of their better noodle soups.

>>19859680
>pho is easily their shittiest dish and does not hold a candle to any of their better noodle soups.
strange indeed. Pho probably has the widest range of quality. It's bad when the broth is diluted (not using enough bone) but when it gets good, it gets really fucking good..

The Vietnamese language is like chinese but slightly more ugly

>>19858899
A farmer's market actually seems like a really good place to set up a Vietnamese place in a small area. Foreign names like banh mi or suon noung might freak someone out, they'll probably feel a lot more comfortable if they walk by the stand and see sandwiches and pork chops.

>>19859662
>lee's sandwiches
you mean lee's bakery? in atlanta?
that place kicks ass but im always afraid to take the free bread since its just out for anyone to contaminate

>>19858836
Where I've lived all the bakerys have been run by Vietnamese. The French really left a mark when they colonised the place. Good stuff except their pies seem to be filled with dog food. Ive been to Vietnam and also live in a predominantly Vietnamese area.. Heaps of restaurants in competition so the quality is really good..
Funny thing, I had the best pizza I've ever had when over there. They also make fantastic salads.Ive lived with a Vietnamese family for a while and the grandma was always cooking and gardening.one day she brought home a whole pigs head and proceeded to make head cheese with it. She gave me some with some of her homemade pickles and it was fantastic.
The garden was full of mint and on a hot day it was all you could smel.l

>>19858836
banh mi is a fucking banger

>>19859832
>Good stuff except their pies seem to be filled with dog food.
vietnam has no pies

>>19858836
mostly trash, but i make an americanized version of those rolls in the bottom left by wrapping up chef boyardee ravioli in some rice paper. learned it from general sam.

>>19859839
This was in Australia.

>>19859839
Woops. Meant to reply to this guy.
>>19859862

perfect, it's like the french came to thailand and china and taught them how to cook

Pho with tendon is fucking incredible but it's too high level for most people

>>19860096
>not eating it with tripe
never gonna make it

>>19860105
Tendon a shit. Tripe is the shit. This guy gets it

I live in San Diego, there's this place I go to called K sandwiches. Very good banh Minh, and bakery stuff like crossiant ham and cream cheese, etc etc their breakfast is absolutely goated and I absolutely love their Vietnamese coffee. It's strong but not too strong, I tried other Vietnamese place and coffee place, it's Meh at best, but it can't beat K sandwiches, it just hits different.

>>19860434
>K sandwiches
anon, I hate to break it to ya, but I looked at their menu.. their Banh Mi are just baguettes in disguises..

>>19860437
Yeah but their crossiant breakfast sandwiches are to die for, their bagguettes are quite crunchy and fresh. Crossiant filled cream cheese with jalapeño and ham are my favorite thing to eat there. It's just unf.

It's the best.

>pho with that thin raw beef that cooks in the piping hot broth

LOVE that shit

>>19858899

tell me another person from 4chan goes to fairgrounds and ill shit right here right now

>>19860437
>in disguises
That's literally baguette, no disguise, Vietnam was French colony for almost century.

I’ve been cooking out of Charles Phan’s book “Vietnamese home cooking” for years. Some incredible recipes in that book, my favorite is “mama’s meatballs” which are pork meatballs in a shallot/Annatto/ketchup/vegetarian stir fry meat sauce it’s fucking incredible and gets even better when you use the leftovers to make banh mi. Some day I want to go to his restaurant in SF

>>19860442
>their bagguettes are quite crunchy and fresh
>>19860475
>That's literally baguette, no disguise, Vietnam was French colony for almost century.
Vietnam Banh Mis are not supposed to be crunchy. That's the hallmark of western bakery powerhouses (USA, UK, Germany, French).
Vietniggers Banh Mi crust is ultra thin and crispy

>>19858836
It's arguably the best but you could also make a case for the Thais.

Vietnamese food is delicious. I am a pajeet from the UK who just got back from a 3 week vacation going to Cambodia and Vietnam, and let me tell you, after eating all the street food that I could find and trying all the top local dishes, I can safely say that the anons complaining in here about "muh hygiene" are faggots. I never had a bad stomach on any day, despite eating in suspicious places (from a tourist POV anyway). As soon as I came back to the UK however, no matter what I ate, I got a belly ache and/or the shits. The food out there is cooked in pork fat so its easier on your body, man I miss Vietnam so much

>>19860702
The one thing I wasnt a fan of were their spring rolls, they were served cold. I preferred the crab rolls that you would be served with Bun Cha, which were crispy and delicious. I think ultimately it depends what you like. I preferred Bun Cha and Bun Bo Hue over Pho, Pho felt a bit basic compared to some of the other dishes. I think my favourite dish had to have been the Banh Xeo. They gave this sauce to dip it in which I want to find in the UK but idk how i will do that

it is superior to chinese food by a massive margin

>>19858836
A good Banh Mi is heavenly. Pho is good, but extremely variable.

>>19858836
personally, i prefer the rice/noodle dishes to pho, although you can't really beat beef trip, mm

>>19858836
It's ok but not my favorite Asian cuisine. It's not spicy and rich like Chinese food or crunchy and savory like Japanese food or tangy and sweet like Korean food. It's just ok. I've tried pho but not bahn mi. It seems to rely a lot on fresh greens and jalapenos to give it some kick. It reminds me of this short stack viet chick I fumbled at work last year, so I don't eat it that often.

>>19860901
>It's not spicy and rich like Chinese food or crunchy and savory like Japanese food or tangy and sweet like Korean food.
oh dear, oh dear, here you are reducing cuisines down to basic tastes. I'm not even trying to compare between Viet and Jap food here, but are you seriously calling Japanese food "savory and crunchy"? What the fuck?

>>19859361
There's a similar situation with Mexican food. Now the food in the big cities is great but the smaller towns don't necessarily have the infrastructure in place to facilitate great cookery. You need refrigerated trucks, good roads, ample refrigeration in the shops, and so on. When I stayed with family in Bumfuck Mexico I was starved for stuff like salads and fresh fruit, stuff that their markets carried in short supply because they had such small sections for frozen and refrigerated foods. They still used a lot of dried and canned fruits/vegetables because it was more accessible.

In the US Mexican cooks have better access to fresh and frozen produce. They can also cook with more meat.

When I was in Vietnam I bought some rice balls from a street vendor, then went to a homestay (basically sleep outside in a shack), put the rice balls down and they were completely covered by ants in 10 seconds, motherfuckers

>>19860979
it's a dog eat dog world out there, anon

vietnamese is one of the higher tier asian cuisines imo

>>19858836
Terrible, nowhere near as good as British food

>>19861301
This but unironically. Proper fish and chips with malt vinegar mogs everything under the sun. Meanwhile there are FDA warnings on every fish from Vietnam.

poverty gookslop wagefuel that gets me through the day just barely enough so i can complete tasks for mr. shekelgruber
t. america-born viet (self-loathing, avg. penis size but probably small)

>>19858836
A real sandwich has cheese, and shredded carrots do not belong on a sandwich. A banh mi is not a proper sandwich.

>>19860105
>>19860258
Point proven, tastelets can't handle tendon

i'm figuratively a nazi and i hate all ethnic food. if your fuckin food was so good, it would reflect in what you create, the societies in which you live. but ethnics live in shitholes and thus their food is also low-quality trash. i had a burrito recently for $9.75 and it was absolute garbage.

>>19861644
Poland is a shithole but kielbasa and pierogies are great

>>19861592
Shit b8, m8.

>>19861683
You're a retard with shitty taste and you don't know what sandwiches look like.

Bun bo and banh mi are obvious greats, but there was this viet place that would have this super cheap lunch special of noodles veggies and some kind of meat with that fish sauce/sugar dipping sauce. It was simple but satisfying. Also I fell in love with a vietnamese girl in school and we text on our birthdays and its the highlight of my year

>>19858836
2nd best Southeast Asian cuisine
3rd best Asian cuisine overall
4th most attractive women on average
I rate it highly.

>>19861851
>3rd best Asian cuisine overall
this oughta be good
who are first and second

>>19861929
1. Sichuan
2. Thai
3. Vietnamese

>>19861995
Thai should be higher than Sichuan

>>19858836
Really like Banh Mi and Pho, no idea about anything else

>>19862003
And Vietnamese should be higher than Thai
I'd probably go Japan, Hong Kong, Vietnam
And even then it's almost splitting hairs, for all the similarities they're really very different when you look at them holistically

>>19862015
Japanese is pretty overrated. Most of their top food is centered around fried and western adaptations of food.

those cold vietnamese rolls are really gross

>>19862015
>Japan
Stopped reading there

Japan's adaptations of western food (their curry, Hamburg steak, etc) are the weakest of any Asian country's with the exception of filipino spaghetti abominations

>>19862018
I agree, Japanese is largely inspired by other culture's favorite dishes
It's their pursuit of improvement if not perfection is remarkable
It's why French and Japanese culinary schools exchange staff, they're very different cooking cultures but their disciplines compliment each other

>>19860901
>this short stack viet chick I fumbled at work

i feel you bro

>>19860469
Another local boy, huh? Yeah, it's the one at the Fairgrounds Market.

>>19862035
>improvement if not perfection is remarkable
Meh, at most. Their ads division is what remarkable here.

>>19862508
I don't shill for Japan
I would but I don't think they know I exist
My neighbor is the largest importer of sushi fish in the US, maybe I should see if he knows anyone with clout and cash

>>19859713
Good point. Most of the people there, are there to buy decent meat and veggies, so they're probably more open to trying something "exotic".

im glad my dad goes out to eat vietnamese resteraunts all the time so he knows which places are the best for hu tieu and bahn mi and even shui mai

>>19862512
I'm not telling you are shilling for them, in case you misunderstood. I really meant it when I said
>Their ads division is what remarkable
capiche?

>>19862524
Gotcha
But that also helps make Japanese food culturally relevant outside of the US
We have instant ramen, candy, retarded canned drinks, and fish flakes in every pantry spanning the entire world
While their food is simple its impact is global
That's why I rate J-a-pan food over Vietnam's even though I would eat Vietnamese 10 times for every time I would Japanese

>>19862519
>shui mai
damn I need to buy some siu mai
ate this at so many places in my life, yet only 1 shop gets it right:
- the meatball is springy
- yet soft to the bite, very good structure
- not juicy, not dry, just pleasantly moist
- slightly sweet with an acidic tomato sauce

>>19862538
i dont know what they are called but the little shui mai kiosks in the asian markets sometimes have these fried balls with some sweet beef and veggies in it. i suspect its made from the same stuff that they use to make steamed buns

>>19859361
it's because they are poor and they skimp as much as possible on the meat. you'll get like a tiny portion of shitty meat in Vietnam instead of generous good quality meat portions in the west. shit sucks.

pork rolls are a goat lunchtime meal

>>19860716
That sauce is nước chấm
Very easy to make.
It's a mix of sugar, water, fish sauce, lemon juice, chili and garlic.
Usually sweeter for fried dishes, or more sour when used for dipping meat, fish etc.
Don't get the bottled stuff, it's never good.

>>19862579
>It's a mix of sugar, water, fish sauce, lemon juice, chili and garlic.
5-1-1
5 parts water
1 part fish sauce
1 part sugar
Everything else is optional to-taste

I have a mission.. to bring Vietnamese foods to its peak performance.. starting with..
Thit Kho Trung.
Maybe I'll write a cookbook later, idk

banh mi is overrated but the rest of the stuff I've tried has been pretty good. My favorite is this rice dish that comes with some kind of meat thats been cut into thin strings

>>19862746
depends on what Banh Mi you had, you either had had the most overrated shit (just decent), or the best orchestra of textures, tastes, and flavours of all times.

What do you think of vietnam grilled meat?

>>19858836
One of my favourite cuisines ever.
Spicy and sour is just what my tastebuds crave

A good bahn mi with a Vietnamese iced coffee is an S-tier lunch

>>19858860
Underrated

>>19858836
>picrel
>no bun bo hue, the goat of viet cuisine

>>19863877
i drank a vietnamese coffee that was so strong too fast that i started having heart palpatations and needed a smoke

>>19860901
eat bun bo hue
it will change how you think of viet food

It's pretty decent though pretty much everything good enough to be known internationally they got from the French;even pho.

>>19859361
>Vietnamese food in the west is actually better than in vietnam
Lol sure ok anon

>>19859691
>slightly
It manages to be resoundingly more ugly, which is impressive given how ugly Chinese already is

not really a fan of pho desu, to me it tastes very gamey. other people like it and its fine if they do buts just not my cup of tea

>>19858836
ngl id anialiate everything in that picture anon

>>19858899
kek are they processong the meat in the stall as well?

>>19867239
Nah, it's an indoor "upscale" farmers market. Not like the real farmers markets, where you can order cooked goodies and 100 feet away, you can bid on livestock and do it yourself.

They make the best egg rolls in Asia.

>>19858836
I love a good Pho.

i am very much a fan.
The Bahn Mi is my favorite form of sandwhich. its in such harmony. creamy patte, crispy pickled onions /carrots fresh bread. and of course the vietnamese cured meats.
mama mia

anyone have any good vietnamese companies to invest in? they are gonna overthrow china soon

>>19858836
bottom tier slop
but enough about your mother, Vietnamese food is fucking awful

>>19869656
You are retarded dear trilobite anon

>>19869658
>trilobite
what wonder what anon tastes like

>>19869696
If anything like anomos pretty bland

>>19858836
vietnam is a very nice place to visit and the food is amazing. i only had one bad dish there during my month long trip. it was some bo kho (beef nooodle soup) from a stand outside my friend's place, tasted like watered chef boyardee.

>>19870068
>bo kho (beef nooodle soup)
there's no "noodle" in "bo kho", but yeah, many places will water down the stock to sell more bowls (to save money on more beef/bones). Poor country in a nutshell.