/ck/ - Food & Cooking

diageofag but whatever. been loving the singleton of dufftown 18, it's great and not expensive. best speyside i've had in a while, wish they'd release a craft presentation.

Also loving kingsbarns dream to dram, lowlands are underrated. they have a sherry release too i've been wanting to get my hands on

>>19793917
>What are ya drinkin?
Whatever I want.

>>19794020
>whatever I want
>literally all fucking bourbon
pathetic

>>19794114
>literally all fucking bourbon
Yes, that's what I want. See how this works?
I'm sorry you can't afford to have $4-5K worth of booze in your house.
Pathetic.

>>19794144
if he did he probably wouldn't spend it on three dozen bottles that all taste the same, then brag about it on image boards

>>19794152
>three dozen bottles that all taste the same
You're supposed to be an adult to post here.

>>19794161
he says while frothing at the mouth at the idea of someone not being impressed by his shitty collection

>>19794161
>i'm a big stwong adult because i dwink the poison juice

had to travel across state lines to pick up the Laphroaig and Bunnahabhain and because it was the week of my birthday I got the wine for a penny.

the Bunna is a steal right now because its $32.99 , which like $10-15 less than normal shelf price and is better imo than the Toitech A D'ha I paid over $80 for earlier this year.

Laphroaig 16 is good, but a bit stiff on the neck pour. after a couple hours it was starting to remind me of the 2016 batch of Lore I bought 2 years ago, pretty heavy vanilla on the nose.

wine is not my favorite but this one is ok after it's gotten some air.

I really wanna try more Maccalans but fuck me if they're not obscenely expensive. Is it retarded to spend €160 on the 15yo?

>>19794211
it's an obvious answer to anyone who's had any modern Macallan. massively overpriced crap for Asians to show wealth.

they cant even get good casks from Spain nowadays with there connections that go back 200 years.

other distilleries do much better for much less but it wont make your epeen bigger.

>>19794144
>'m sorry you can't afford to have $4-5K worth of booze in your house.Pathetic.
I have a 90s bottle of laphroig which cost's half of that so yeah go take a hike with your bourbons you meritard plebeian

Only the best for me: Bushmills

>>19793917
talisker 10, bunna toitech a dha kilkerran 12 and alberta premium cask strength

>>19793917
Love that it's getting very autumnal in the UK.

Might crack open a bottle of Bowmore 10 I've been saving.

>>19794263
bushmills 10yo single malt is surprisingly decent, it's like a cheaper alternative to the entry level speyside malts. wouldn't buy it again tho

>>19793917
finally a thread start with some effort
let's keep this going

heading to bed with a bowmore, life is good. sleep well /wg/

>>19793917
BAESD DRUKINGS FRIDAY SOON WOOO

>>19794265
that bunna actually pleasantly surprised me. I was a big skeptical of a NAS because i was really let down by the stiuireadair but it was actually really balanced

>>19793917
sipping on the ardbeg traigh bhan batch 4 tonight, phenominal bottle

i refuse to buy No Age Statement whisky myself no matter how good it is

>>19794684
good to know :) havent opened it yet

>>19794020
bourbonfags are so fucking funny

>>19794684
its kinda boring by itself. it needs something else next to it to really outline its qualities.

the NAS thing is apparently a technical side effect as its said by someone from Bunnahabhain that they only use 10 year old stock for that bottling.

>>19794211
Macallan is a waste of money, I tried an older bottle which was pretty nice but all the modern ones I've tried barely tasted of anything special. You're paying for the name, not the liquid inside.

>>19794726
i get where you're coming from but i really enjoyed my bottle, reminiscant of some kilchomans i've had. probably just down to the fact that bunna actually get decent sherry casks

>>19794211
>macallan
>in coke
>with ice
this has to be bait

>>19794784
no the image mixing a 30 year old scotch with diet coke is 100% serious.
are you retarded?

>>19794818
some "people" unironically do that though

>>19794726
>>19794746
bunna 12 is one of the best bottles i've had and i'm saying this as a peathead. The quality of the distillate in bunna is way better than what laphroaig/ardbeg/lagavulin/diageo puts out

>>19794211
I recently attended a Macallan dinner and while all the tatsings were great, the 6k$ 30 year SM was beat by the NAS rare cask edition (that one is in the 400$ ballpark)

>>19794891
let's not pretend that the people spending that much money on macallan care about which one tastes better

>>19794851
dont get me wrong, I'm a Bunnafag through and through. I'm mostly just miffed about the quality:price ratio of the Official Bottling to the literally "Bottled exclusively for Total Wine" Independent Bottling.

so far I've only had Machir Bay from Kilchoman and it reminded me of an 80/20 mix of Laphroaig and Caol Ila I made at home one night.

I think the 2022 Loch Gorm is still available to me for about $100 after tax, but again at that price I want more abv at least. If I were any dumber I'd have already bought it based on the packaging alone.

>Talisker

>>19794701
you're missing out on some good whisky, but sure, be autistic

>>19795149
obsessed

>>19795173
i know there are many great NAS whiskies but i simply refuse to support the practice of obscure marketing just because <10 years spooks the consoomer. it gives more room for dishonesty and changing the blend at will. i don't really see the point of investing my time and money in something that might as well taste very different in a year

>>19795224
>it gives more room for dishonesty and changing the blend at will. i don't really see the point of investing my time and money in something that might as well taste very different in a year
no one is asking you to buy them repeatedly

>>19793917
Currently sipping Bunna 12 and Laga 16. The Laga was a recent gift (coworker who exchanges wine/beer with me and wanted to impress me on my birthday) and I have to say, maybe it's changing tastes, but I don't find the same pleasure in it that I used to back when I first started drinking scotch. The Bunna was a spur-of-the-moment purchase: I remembered I liked it years ago but never went back to it. It's one of the best I've tried in recent memory, so I'm sure to buy another bottle immediately after this one.
>>19794205
>>19794692
>>19794851
>>19795087
I've been curious to try Ardbeg 10 and Laphroaig 10 (or Cask Strength?) but I have bad memories of trying Highland Park 12 a decade ago and gagging every time I even smelled it. That was back in university when I only drank beer, bourbon, and spirits aged in sherry casks, so my tastes have changed since then. But I'm still afraid of having the same gut-reaction to the strong smoke/peat. Any advice?

bought a bottle of picrel (got ripped off)
>it's seasonal!
>so the pajeet liquor store can charge 2x the price of a staple flavor!
>got what i deserved
smells great, but the bite from the salt makes ya shudder like a vinegar stroke,
and nearing the end of the bottle is where it hits the strongest.

honestly, a bottle of bailey's salted caramel is the better deal and makes sense - it being a liqueur, a drink expected to be a dessert beverage of choice.
don't care that the proof is lower.

>friend lets me try his highland park collection, from the 12 to the 30 year, and everything in between
>the 70 dollar one is better than the 900 dollar one

>>19795463
Laga 16 is my least favorite out of it, Ardbeg 10 and Laphroaig 10. Laphroaig has a pleasant sweetness to it and Ardbeg has a pineapple note I find irresistible.

>>19795463
>HP12
>strong peat smoke
its known for being lightly peated + sherries + coastal. if it tasted wrong as well it could have been corked.

my first intro to peat was Benriach Curiositas and love it to this day and a damn shame they changed the formula and the styling. Ardbeg 10 was next and while good its just very singular most of the time. Then I got Uigeadail a few months later and the hype certainly didnt meet the expectations. Got Laphroaig Lore at the end of that year and knew I was Team Frog. All that said I would still buy Ardbeg An Oa because it's not the 10 which is said to be very inconsistent now, not the Wee Beastie(see >>19795149) and it's still reasonably priced. it's just that maybe 1/4-5 bottles I buy will be notably peated, so those bottles last me 2-3 years on average.

I wouldn't suggest trying them at a bar or buying sample bottles because like most other bottles the heavily peated stuff will have substantial changes over the first 2-4 weeks once opened and even if you donf love it at the time set it aside and try it a couple times a year as your tastes may change.

Springbank and its alternatives are the next biggest flavor challenge. Less peat, more industrial.

>>19795813
>Springbank and its alternatives are the next biggest flavor challenge.
Longrow makes it a challenge for me not to be an alcoholic.

>>19795550
you shake like juice box, sir!

>>19795709
old stuff can be great but pretty finicky as well. the older it is the more time it takes to unfold and reach its potential. water helps to a degree, but air + time is unbeatable. younger stuff is pretty easy access but the depth of complexity will be much lower and that's if you can focus on what your tasting enough to notice the benefits.

>>19795804
Lagavulin is known for its coal smoke note. to me Ardbeg has a noticeable metallic note and almost a cooling menthol type profile outside the smoke. modern Laphroaig is briny, citrusy(half juice, half zest) and peppery with lots of vanilla from the ex bourbon hogsheads(the sweetness part). pre Beam-Suntory Laphroaig is said to have been a very fruity distillate without the modern style of very overt smoke.

>>19795845
the challenge being finding enough of it to drink to the point of being an alchie... then theres the money.

>>19795859
>The brand was in turn acquired by Fortune Brands in 2005, as one of the brands divested by Pernod Ricard in order to obtain regulatory approval for its takeover of Allied Domecq. Fortune Brands then split up its business product lines in 2011, forming its spirits business into Beam Inc. Beam was then purchased by Suntory Holdings in April 2014.
Hm, the first time I would have tried Laphroaig 10 would have been in 2005 or 2006 IIRC, and it was definitely smoky as fuck then.

>>19795872
must've be thinking of Allied. the stuff bottled in the 1980's-90's is what people look for. $2,500+ dollars for a 10 year old bottled back then when it's good or better condition.

gonna go tesco and pick out whatever cheapest and biggest bottle they have. i promise itll be gone by tomorrow

It's alright, but not for almost $90. KC12 is a lot better at 50 bux, proof be damned.

>>19795971
there is no longer value in the elevated-proof bourbon market
except for one

>>19795986
It's all about the Big White Cork.

wondering if it's a whisky for breakfast kinda day

I have a bottle of Hibiki I'm chipping away at if I want a smooth scotch. I like to make cocktails so I've got a few bourbons kicking around too like Old Forester, Woodford Reserve, Buffalo Trace, Wild Turkey etc. I think my favourite bourbon so far though is Wild Turkey 101. Got that sweet, honeyed kick to it that I really quite like.

>>19795859
>you shake like a juice box, sir!
>shake
>like a juice box
uh

>>19795190
No, Talisker sucks

mortlach has such sexy bottles, wish square bottles were more common.
not nikka from the barrel style tho, that one sucks.

>>19793917
wheated bourbon

>>19795986
>>19796006
OGD114 is one of the best, and an amazing value. As good or better than most of the tater-bait out there at a quarter of the cost.

>>19795986
Based OGD knower

I'm really enjoying this

Ok I'm a Glenlivet drinking bitch because I like smooth whiskeys and have pleb taste, anyone got any recs?

i'm looking for something with a deep "malt" (bread, beer?) taste, peated or not
tired of smooth shit that tastes like vanilla, confectionary and fruits

>>19795463
> But I'm still afraid of having the same gut-reaction to the strong smoke/peat
>Currently sipping Laga 16
Lol pick one

>>19797217
highland park magnus

>>19797267
drink cheaper irish whiskey, it's like drinking cereal

>>19795971
>no longer aged 12 years
lol
lmao

>>19795986
pretty sure all Heaven Hill shills are simply that

>>19794144
ya can't buy taste

>>19797217
Old Grand-Dad 114.
Faggot.

>>19797367
>drinking cereal
That's exactly what whiskey is.

any recommendations for bourbons that aren't painfully sweet, i really want to understand it but i can't get past the sweetness in the ones i've tried. what should i be looking for, higher rye in the mashbill? more age?

>>19798635
Stay away from the wheaties for sure. Higher rye can mean less sweetness, more spice. Too much oak can make it sweeter, too. Higher proof can also tone down some sweetness.

>>19795804
>>19795813
>>19795859
>>19797276
Hey, I'm >>19795463 and I ended up getting a bottle of the Ardbeg 10 tonight. I opened it and poured one out immediately, let it sit for 5 minutes while I sniffed it, and then took a sip. The smell was lovely full of strong, smoky, briny, salty, sweet flavors. The first taste, after 5 minutes of turning, was magical but then the taste of something I could describe as metallic started to settle on my palette and overpower the smoke and brine. Letting it sit for another few minutes before I go in for another sip, but the thing that amazes me most is that first sip and the smell that seems to change the longer it sits in the glass. Seriously, I think I could get drunk huffing on the fumes.

>>19798635
Even something like Knob Creek Rye, which is thought to be 55% rye and 35% corn, is still pretty sweet.
If you don't want sweet, then bourbon isn't your thing.

>>19798635
Makers Mark but thats just because its a very mild bourbon

>>19798716

>>19798716
Maker's is a wheater, that's about as sweet as you can get

>>19798752
Wheated makes it smooth not sweet
Wild turkey is extremely sweet but still burns because its mostly corn and rye

Describing whiskey as smooth is a sure sign of a <80 IQ.

>>19798796
>acting intellectual on /ck/

>>19798683
the "tarry rope" note on the front label was pretty close to my first whiff. only other time I get to smell tar apart from having my driveway resealed.

very happy this is a thread now, decided to stop drinking beer altogether and focus more on whiskey cus less calories n shieet.
id given up on bourbon because i was disappointed by mediocre local offerings over and over again but i decided to give it another shot the other day and jesus it was hard to put down. a hard cinnamon hit followed by candied apple, maple, sweet lighter fruits and stuff. insanely complex and the GOOD kind of burn.
i guess the lesson is to stick to kentucky and tennessee for bourbon

>>19793917
Usually Laphroaig, actually. It's at the sweet spot for taste-to-price for me currently. I usually drink it with a little water but sometimes I mix it two parts with one part Drambuie.

>>19793917
Stopped drinking this summer but Oban 14 years remains the best whisky.

>>19793917
So im on the fence with a new whisky from japan, HItchino beer finished their Whisky Distillery(I got to try the test whisky's 7 years ago and they were fucking stellar) and released a bunch of new bottle 2 of which are stupidly priced at 280 each, one is the Kome and the other is the Sherry Cask which I dont care for. But I did get to grab their sakura cask stateside and I thought it was pretty good and debating buying the second bottle as a sealed item. Wondering if anyone else has seen these stateside and what you make of em

Also tried a Okinawa blue bottle and that might be the tastiest whisky Ive had from Japan in soo long

>>19799937
Heres the Okinawa blue, if you ever see it highly recommend firing on it

>>19798683
Heeey good for you. Never got metallic of ardbeg although everyones palate is different. Its a fresh bottle, should get better after it sits for a few weeks

What do I buy for someone who likes Islay malts, that isn't an Islay malt?

Today is the day

>>19800226
>>19799763

Picked this up. First time buying it instead of the bonded bottle. What should I expect?

>>19795550
Is there any good Canadian whiskey? What does Canadian Club taste like?

>>19800860
>Is there any good Canadian whiskey?
No but there are ones that aren't horrible just not desirable like Crown Royal.
I do know the worst Canadian whiskey and that would be picrel Canadian LTD. It is truly god awful to the point as a alky i considered drinking hand sanitizer before attempting to finish the bottle of LTD i accidentally bought.

>>19793917
>What are ya drinkin?
Port Askaig.
>What are ya buyin?
Nothing until I finish a few more bottles. Out of storage space.

>>19801297
the circulatory system can be used as storage for roughly 3.2 handles of alcohol

>>19800860
the only good canadian i've tried is the alberta premium cask strength, imm sure there's more good stuff out there but most of the widely available canadian is swill

Anyone have opinions on Kavalan? I'm in Taiwan right now, but not sure which bottle to get.
I mean there's a good chance the guy at the store lets me sample each bottle but I'm still curious if you guys have opinions.

How many of you fags use decanters? How has it worked for ya?

>>19800466
pain but the kind that you can enjoy

>>19802430
I have one but i dont use it as I dont really drink anything regularly enough to need it ready pour.

The only two bourbons I'm interested in drinking anymore are Old Grand-Dad 114 and Woodford Reserve Double Oaked.

>>19800466
Old Grand-Dad 114 is the manliest whisky ever. That's 114 for 114 proof. With 27% rye in the mash bill, it's got spice and kick. This is not a smooth whiskey. This is a delicious, intensely flavorful, complex and balanced whiskey that'll put hair on your chest. I highly recommend this intensely masculine bottle of poison wood water.
Just look at this shit. Even the massive fucking cork is manly as shit.

Reminder to vote for the OSWA s

>>19800860
>>19801246
>>19801780
Canadian whiskey can be pretty fucked. Because of the way that alcohol is priced and taxed in Canada (mandatory minimum prices imposed by the government), there isn't really a market for bottom shelf booze, because it will arbitrarily be priced the same as actually decent stuff. So a lot of really awful whiskey is produced and bottled exclusively for export. The laws for labelling our whiskey are also fucked, basically "rye" and "whiskey" are synonymous, so a bottle of whiskey with 0 rye in the mash can and will say "Rye" right on the label.

tl;dr Canada exports a lot of bottom shelf corn whiskey, do your research or end up with swill.

>>19802656
>not a smooth whiskey
it was my first high proof bourbon and it was drinkable from beginning to end.

>>19802656
Not whiskey but I tried a 38% and 58% alcohol and the 38% was harsher and had more of a kick than the 58%.

>>19802739
That's just because you're not a poofter.

>>19802066
skip the concert master bottles, but the soloist series are really good stuff, and for decent prices over there

>>19803095
I think the local liquor store is about 1500 NTD ($47 USD~) for a bottle of Kavalan, which seems pretty reasonable to me.

>>19793917
Evan Williams BIB

>>19797217
Compass box, anything under £50 like the artist blend. Maybe bunahabbin 12 Woodford reserve. All quite good

>>19796006
I bought a bottle of this a few weeks ago and thought it was shit. Nasty perfumey flavor.

>>19805185
back to 99 Bananasand Tequila Rose for you

>>19804222
How is that compared to default Evan?

>>19805185
BTW I like Maker's Mark and my pronouns are Xe, Xem, Xir, Xirs and Xirself.

What's the best reasonable (UNDER $50) non-smokey scotch, for a newfag

>>19805292
also Irish whiskey is acceptable. Im just bored of drinking Eagle rare and buffalo trace

>>19805238
exactly the same just a little hotter from the higher proof

>>19805259
Makers is light/thin but by no means is it bad, talking shit only outs yourself as a tryhard that gets your opinions from others

>>19805367
>Makers is light/thin
That's why it's bad.

>>19805292
>under 50
what state/country do you live in

>>19805292
Jura

>>19805292
Glendronach 12

>>19805458
that doesn't make it bad though.
it just puts it into a category of things i don't buy.
the flavor is good there just isn't enough of it compared to something like monkey shoulder which is actually bad tasting

>>19805304

Does anyone else absolutely hate adding ice? It makes whiskey taste fucking disgusting and vile. I can only drink it neat. Even cocktails I can't stand. I've tried making an Old Fashioned several times with different variations and it was always disgusting.

>>19805576
its your ice
try using Fiji water to make your ice

>>19805606
>using water with arsenic

Got this as a gift, is it any good? I assume it's meant for Irish coffee?

>>19805659
>not knowing arsenic is a ancient natural medicine used around the world

>>19805671
proof?

>>19805686
60 proof

>>19805695
thats not to bad
i'd try it straight but sound great in coffee

>>19805525
>that doesn't make it bad though.
Yes, it does, just like it being a wheated bourbon makes it bad.

>>19805467
Utah, USA
>>19805472
>>19805481
>>19805529
Thank you, I will go to the liquor store tomorrow and pick up a few to test out.

>>19805861
Don't buy Bushmill's.
If its price is good buy Redbreast 12 instead.

>>19805864
I've seen redbreast and it looked nice. what's wrong with bush mills? is it low quality

>>19805873
>what's wrong with bush mills?
It's just basic bitch blended Irish whiskey. Unremarkable and comparatively lacking in flavor compared with a quality single pot still Irish whiskey like Redbreast.

>>19804222
This and Wild Turkey 101 are the best buys for the price.
t. liquor store employee

>>19805892
OGD 114 is the best buy for the price where it's available, which is not many places.

>>19805981
the 'Spot and Redbreast prices have shot up to chase Scotch profits.
Fuck Middelton
Praise Bushmills
Cooley you aight

>>19793917
Is it just me or are expensive aged whiskies outside of scotch not good at all. Recently opened up a bottle of Middleton 2023 and I found the redbreast 15 was much nicer. Tried the Blantons original and that just wasn’t worth the price at all. I wouldn’t even have said it would been worth 100 euro. But I opened up a bottle of bowmore 25 and it was one of the nicest drams I’ve ever had it was so subtle with the smoke but I could pick out everything else each time I sipped. Am I being biased against bourbons and Irish whiskey? Also bros how often do you wet your works for bottles you plan on keeping for investing?

>>19805892
>>19805895

All are good choices

>I like Wild Turkey 101 Rye, but it's harder to find compared to regular 101.

>>19806115
>Am I being biased against bourbons and Irish whiskey?
No. Scotches just take to extended aging better than bourbons and Irish whiskies. You can't really age bourbons too long because they utilize new oak barrels so it's very easy to overdo the tannins. As for Irish whiskies, the spirits themselves have more delicate flavors which are more easily overpowered by the oak with extended aging.

>>19793917
>Luv Jack
>Luv Makers Mark
Simple as

>>19806334

>>19805861
Avoid Jura, it's the worst distillery in Scotland. Glendronach and Glenlivet/fiddich are fine, so is bushmills single malt

>>19806354
>Glenlivet/fiddich are fine
...if you hate flavor.

>>19806358
He asked for non-smokey newfag scotch. Of course you're gonna be starting with entry level speyside. Glenlivet 12 is perfect for that. Agree Glenfiddich is kinda shit tho

>>19806367
Starting with something boring and very light on flavor is more likely to turn him off from Scotch than anything.

>>19806371
Someone new to scotch isn't going to find those whiskeys boring because they have no point of reference. Starting them off with anything stronger is going to be overwhelming

>>19806379
>going to be overwhelming
...if they share their pronouns in their email signature.
>OH DEAR I'VE BEEN SO OVERWHELMED BY FLAVOR MY BUTTPLUG MIGHT POP OUT

>>19806382
Calm down, sperg.

Any Monday drinkers

>>19793917

Drinking Knob creek 100 proof 9 year old

>>19805864
>don’t buy Bushmills
Black bush is a great light sherried whiskey, I take it over any bottom shelf scotch or whatever whiskey. The aged stated bush mills are good especially price wise

>>19801780
>>19801246
>>19800860
The Lot 40's and alberta premium cask strength are the best rye's imho
Wisers 15 18 , Gooderham and Worts, macaloney and glen breton single malts

>>19805864
>>19805873
> Redbreast 12 instead
terrible advice. The 12 is watered down and very overpriced in many places

>>19806328
location/temp matters Scotland is cold which slows down the aging
a 3 year rum = 6y bourbon = 9y scotch all have about the same amount of aging

>>19799482
>conecuh
>kentucky and tennessee
you're retarded.

>>19794211
I don't like Macallan and it's extremely overpriced for what it is. I've always preferred Islay whisky anyway. I mainly just drink Bulliet rye though because it's at a decent pricepoint and I like it.

>>19806729
This post is incorrect.

>>19807987
Your post is incorrect, rb 12 is too diluted and expensive. Might as well get a single malt scotch

>>19808202
This poster is incorrect and poor.

>>19808208
This poster is incorrect poor and retarded

>>19808211
This poster is incorrect, retarded, poor and doesn't know how to correctly use commas or periods.

>>19808305
This poster is incorrect poor retarded and extremely butthurt

Redbreast 12 > Laphroaig 10 > Oban 14 > shit > Glenfiddich 12 = Glenlivet 12 > Johnnie Walker Black > Bushmills = Jameson > Talisker 10

>>19805304
I always recommend Tullamore Dew. It's just so light and smooth.

>>19807561
so why don't we just put some whiskey in an oven and make it age faster?

>It's just so light and smooth.
This is what an NPC who doesn't actually like whiskey says about whiskey that doesn't taste like whiskey because it barely tastes like anything.

>>19808618
The Lost Spirits guy came up with a legit speed ager that works incredibly well. Lost Spirits Abomination: The Sayers of the Law was unironically the best peated whisky I have ever had. It was young Islay whisky speed-aged with charred oak staves from Riesling casks for a couple of weeks and it had the oak flavor of something aged for 25 years. It had this incredible BBQ meat-like flavor - strong peat and strong char along with savoriness. It was absurdly good.
His speed ager basically exposes the whisky to heat and light.
I think consumers are extremely skeptical of speed-aging techniques and that's why companies have been slow to adopt it but it's absolutely legit when done correctly.

>>19805671
think of it like kaluha, it's not for sipping but it might be nice over ice or with ginger ale. would honestly also be nice with milk if you're feeling sick

>>19808717
It would make sense if instead of aging it was "steeped." You can do things to increase how fast the steeping process goes, aging implies the only method is waiting.

>>19808618
so things just take time
banana notes that scotches get take at least 9 years to go away
rums and bourbons don't get that particular bad flavor so they don't require 9 years.

>>19793917
hope to get my hands on something or other. i'm new, got a bottle of glenmorangie 10 last year and really enjoyed. any recs? esp cheaper side.

>>19808618
E V A P O R A T I O N

>>19809074
closed container retard

>>19809070
>cheap
>tastes similar to Glenmorangie 10
Water.

This was really good and had a nice anise like taste to it
>>19795971
based cibi chad

>>19795986
cask strength makers is only 3 bux more than OGD 114 where I live, thought I'd rather have the OGD 114. High rye is the best.

>>19809093
didn't ask for similar, said i enjoyed it and want to find something more to get into.

>>19809070
maybe try an irish whiskey, like bushmills prohibition

>>19809147
thanks

>>19809150
Yeah, if you like Glenmorangie 10, a terrible whisky that tastes like water, you'll like Bushmills, a terrible whisky that tastes like water.

>>19809153
atp i might as well ropemaxx or stick with beer.

>>19809155
I mean if you want cheap booze that tastes like fucking nothing might as well buy a $10 handle of vodka.

>>19809153
Bushmills prohibition was actually a decent proof at 46%.

>>19793917
Just copped some of this sweet nectar.

>>19809086
all barrels/casks are "closed containers" and evaporation is something everyone who's ages in them worries about, retard.

>>19809167
>close $200 after tax
>for a 12 year old
>43%

>>19809167
How much did you pay?

>>19809239
About $180. It's for special occassions. A legendary malt like this is not something you drink every week.

>>19809238
Monkey Shoulder is trash that tastes like lawn clipping and rubbing alcohol with a hint of banana.
It's the epitome of a horrible whisky

>>19809528
Accurate post.

>>19809238
This is what an obsession with Japan looks like.

>>19809160
Stop being a pretentious cunt, people have to start somewhere. There's nothing wrong with enjoying cheaper easily accessible stuff.

>>19809599
I liked suntory toki, for 35 dollars in a shitty blue state, 6 years ago.

>>19809250
... This is my Weekly, Anon.

I'm in Japan and bought a bottle of Nikka Black for like ten dollars. It's not bad for the price. Gonna do a whiskey tour up in Hokkaido, we'll see if I can shift myself away from my opinion that Japanese whiskey is kind of bland.

Evan Williams White Label is amazing for the price, but its too damn sweet.

>>19809070
Glenfiddich/Glenlivet are other commonly recommended entry level scotches and will be around $50 if my area is any guide

>>19809809
I liked Hibiki but it's overpriced for what it is. it's a $20-40 premium for being japanese over its counterparts

>>19802680
>a bottle of whiskey with 0 rye in the mash can and will say "Rye" right on the label
fucking batshit

>>19806478
unremarkable montana wheat whiskey, tasty ayinger hefeweizen, dregs of barbaresco wine bottle

Are there any whiskeys (or other hard liquors) that don't feel like I'm drinking bread? Had a bourbon a while back, but it felt like I was drinking 40% ABV crackers.

>>19810262
getcha pull of that Monongahela Rye

>>19810393
>rye
Poster never heard of rye bread

>>19809528
I had a 2020 bottle and it was ok. Just an average blended malt scotch

so much negativity c'mon bros post some of your favourite stuff.

i rarely see anyone talking about picrel, probably because 40% and chill filtered, but i thought it had a great unique taste. as far as irish goes it's one of the better ones.

>>19810433
it's not bready like most other whiskeys, let alone rye's.

>>19810700
the 16 I see around is 46% and about $100 USD. I just bought the 14 a couple months ago. shame you have to go outside Bushmills to get the their whiskey the way it ought to be bottled.

>>19809788
>There's nothing wrong with enjoying cheaper easily accessible stuff.
When it comes to bourbon, sure. Wild Turkey 101 and the Old Grand-Dads exist.
When it comes to Irish or Scotch, no. Nothing you'll find at an average grocery store is worth drinking here. Nothing under $45 is worth drinking here.

>>19810763
none of them are bready. Neither bourbon or scotch or rye taste like bread. You eat a lot of corn and barley bread btw ?

>>19811252
You can get a drinkable blend for $45 anon. Dewar's 8 mizunara or mezcal cask (or any of the smooth series) , dewars 12, johnnie walker black, black bottle. Dewar's 8 mezcal is delicious, probably the best bottle you can get for under $40

>>19811447
>blend
>drinkable

>>19811462
Green label is a good blend

>>19811462
don't be a cunt. Most whiskey isn't single malt. You like irish whiskey and bourbon, right ?

Everything I've tried from Heaven Hill has been awful. Just finished pouring some Ezra Williams 1783 and Elijah Craig down the drain.

>>19811511
Meant Evan Williams, of course. Also hated the BiB version and Rittenhouse Rye. It all has some nasty "cheap" note to it that I can't describe.

>>19811469
ahahahahaha
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Johnnie Walker Green tastes like feces because of the Talisker in it.

what do you do with this?

>>19811604
Pour it into a glass and drink it

>>19811625
its 116 proof. i think that would be unpleasant

>>19811628
Then give it to me (for free)

>>19811462
>>19811252
Blends
>Teacher's Highland Cream under $15
>Famous Grouse Smoky Black under $25
>Isle of Skye 8 under $30

Single Malts
>Copper Dog under $35
>Shackleton under $35
>Naked Grouse under $35
>Scarabus and Islay Gold 10 under $40

>>19811511
Just not your flavor profile
I've been hitting the ECBP so can't related
Maybe Try the Heaven hill 7 year bib, to me its the most generic example of what bourbon tastes like

>american corn slop

>>19811668
>le corn slop ameripoop lol xD
>also please give us your used barrels sir please do the needful so we can age our whiskys in them thank you sir

>>19811514
>Also hated Rittenhouse Rye.
same. the only rye i like is Bulleit Rye

>>19811628
idk Booker's is 124 proof and sips nicely

>>19810065
wow based

>>19811685
american rye is ruined bourbon. Unless it's over 95% rye it aint rye

>>19811604
idk, what do you do with one of the best bourbons on the market ?

>>19811628
If it burns unpleasantly you're taking too big of sips.

>>19811637
All crap, poorfag.

>>19811707
man just stfu it says right on the bottle its 95% rye

>>19811712
sell it and buy 10 bottles of something you like

>>19811721
loool
>>19811637
>Single Malts
all average blended malts
>Blends
ok for cocktails but wouldn't serve neat unless you have pre 2000's bottles. Most blended malts suck and they cost just as much as a cheap single malt or good blended scotch

>>19811751
did I say bulliet ? I've tried it btw and I don't like it either, although it is better than the high corn stuff. Canadian rye's on the other hand are great.

>>19811707
this is 100 percent and its delicious

>>19811755
>buy 10 bottles of something you like
>buy 10 bottles
with $50 ? ok anon enjoy your soy milk

>>19811816
>sour mash
>age stated rye
Unique whisky

>>19811834
well 5 bottles of Evan Williams

What're some good Canadian 100% Rye whiskies? I've been drinking Lot 40 lately but want some variety.

>>19811685
Best rye I've had was wilderness trail rye, but the best cheap rye is old forester rye

>>19812018
canadian club rye lol

my roommate got tipped a handle of woodford reserve, i'm jelly

>>19812881
>not the double oaked

>>19812881
Who tips with whiskey? Do you give a fifth of export-only Canadian whisky or Indian rumskey if there was bad service?

>>19810053
I fell for the meme. I bought pic related, says Rye right on the bottle, but it's a mix of corn and wheat, there is 0 rye in the mash.

>>19812887
last time I had double oaked it was so sweet it almost tasted like rum, not complaining, but my first bottle of it was more of a bitter oak bomb.

>>19813019
I literally just bought a bottle and it tastes the same as it always has.

>>19812948
>recycled wine bottle design
>illustrations of wheat on the label
>smooth and limited edition on the label
>40%

>>19811721
>>19811796
>le price is le only le flavor

>>19813076
"Smooth" and 40% are definitely red flags.

>>19813076
To be fair, this distillery is on the prairies here in Canada, I was hoping the wheat on the bottle was just to pander to us. The clear glass bottle is a red flag though, and this is a newer bottle redesign, the previous label focused on how it was aged 10 years, that's what I fell for.

tried pendleton rye 1910 today and i thought it was SHIT
was i filtered or is this whiskey a meme. thought it was too sweet compared to any american rye

>>19810700
i tried tyrconnell at a whiskey bar today and thought it was pretty good. it’s $40 bottle compared to your pic $50 bottle any anons want to sway me either direction (haven’t tried the latter)?

>>19812948
don't lie anon, it's a mix of rye and wheat

>>19814172
god ardbeg names are so fucking cringe

>>19814186
most gaelic names in general are pointless to me. makes me wonder who they are actually marketing to

>>19814172
>diet coke
fuckin fairy

>>19795149
>>19796629
Get some better taste, shit-fag retard.

>>19798796
>describing whiskey with a description is low IQ

What did retard-kun anon mean by this?

>>19814577
the anti-talisker spammer is worse than the long gone talisker shill

>>19805981
Knappogue is better than Green Spot. Fight me.

Feast upon thy posterior, mere plebians.

>>19814583
t.talisker shill

>>19814969
no, you just don't like it

Why drink whiskies that need to be aged in used bourbon barrels when you can just drink bourbon?

>>19813960
You can call or email the distiller and ask. There is no rye in the mash.

>>19815022
>You can call or email the distiller and ask
is that what you did ?

>>19814781
it's just a cask strength bunna, relax turdius retardus

>>19815124
A reviewer I watched on jewtube claimed to have called them, so I emailed the distillery and asked if it was true, and they confirmed.

>>19815161
i'll call tmrw and ask

>>19815130
>just shit that store managers dont even put on shelves cuz it causes a fuss
you mad cuz you ain't got it chang or mad some Forbesnigger hasnt told you to buy it cuz not dark enough.

>>19815161
I emailed Laphroaig to confirm the bottling date on my 16 and the female in charge literally just repeated my question as a statement and said hope that helps. still awaiting her response to my reply.

>>19815375
Do you have a 90's laphroaig ? or a 90s longmorn 15 ? stay mad, plebeian

>>19812948
>rye flavour
Canadian alchemy
>>19813213
The 12 years probably takes away the rye bite.

>>19815399
>>>imblygn you or anyone else in this thread does
madd changy is bigg madd

>>19815419
>>19815375
> shit that store managers dont even put on shelves cuz it causes a fuss
lol where would that be, anon ? In europe (germany and poland) you can get this bottle online for around 100-120 euros. I get flexin with some vintage bottle or a limited release but this aint it boi

What exactly is wrong with blended whiskey?

>>19815439
Nothing wrong if you get the good ones. Most blends are crap grain whisky with a little bit of single malt mixed in. Good blends have a higher proportion of single malt and the grain whisky is of a better quality

>>19815432
>euro
>doesnt know what a limited edition is
many such cases

>>19814975
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>>19815439
Typically a lack of strong, distinct flavors.

>>19815464
>many such cases
oh sorry turns out your 100 euro widely available 2023 cask strength 12 is in the "limited edition" range yet the core range 18 is close to double the price. Did I hurt your feelings, ameritard ?
huh ? sure ameritard, whatever cope makes your sperg brainlet feel better

>>19815511
it would that it is you who has been giving a jimmies rustling. now I must say seethe and cope.

>>19815686
> seethe and cope.
awww plebeian please don't cry. just suck on that 100 euro bottle of yours and pretend this never happened

>>19815877
>mfw xhe getting madder every reply

>>19793917
I fell off after two years and am quitting again tonight.
Drank a whole fifth of bumbu last night though.

>>19815439
Nothing

FYI a few drops of peated islay into rye typically tastes fantastic

>>19815439
If I could describe cheap blended Johnny walker I would describe it as painfully awful. I think Johnny walker in general is responsible for so many people describing scotch as tasting like old socks.

>>19816050
modern black label is mostly just roasted peanut shell, some Caol Ila smoke and a moderate finish of bittersweet caramel from all the extra coloring they put in it.

>>19816151
>some Caol Ila smoke
>some
"Some" is very, very generous.
I barely detected any smoke at all even in the Double Black.

>>19794020
Bookers is so good, bless this post

>>19816371
always heard of the Double Black being somehow less peaty than the OG Black when its gimmicks supposed to be the opposite, but I wouldn't know because the Black I had was a gift and gladly will never buy another modern Johnnie Walker product because of it. much too sanitized for anyone who's even borderline cognitive to compliment on it for something besides the smoothness.
>pay more
>get less
>the Diageo way(tm)

>>19816498
double black is atrocious, I like black label at a certain price point, but double black was just wrong.

>>19816031
about ?

>>19813123
le price? >>19811447 dewars or black bottle arent expensive
>>19811637
>Single Malts
doesn't list even one single malt. Get bent, anon

>>19817553
>Dewars and Black Bottle
dont make me kek

Scarabus and Islay Gold are single malts

>>19817696
>Scarabus and Islay Gold are single malts
Kek and you’re going to be talking shit about black bottle or dewars mezcal cask ? The other ones are still blended malts. Either way this is bottom shelf when it comes to single malts. Maybe a step above monkey shoulder and mcclelland

>>19818036
nothing wrong with a good blended malt(pic related).

Scarabus and Islay Gold are safe and effect and are cheap enough to still go toe to toe with Ardbeg, Lagavulin and Laphroaig's of the same price. It may not be your preference, but they are still comparable.

Dewars is swill and Black Bottle is a shadow of its former glory.

>>19818305
>nothing wrong with a good blended malt
>24 year old sherried scotch
never said there was, and those aren't cheap bottles
>Dewars is swill
dewars is in no way swill, the mezcal cask is great and the higher age statement stuff is alright for what it is
>Black Bottle is a shadow of its former glory.
Black bottle is good again, I had a bottle and was pleasantly surprised. Black bottle island smoke is even better. They won some whisky award recently
>Islay Gold
first time seeing it
>and are cheap enough
I get the appeal and there is a place for that (i always have a blended scotch for tastings/ contrast with the more expensive bottles)

>>19818367
>not cheap bottles
damage certainly could've been worse(pic related), but generally that brand competes within the low end of premium single malt price range.
>first time seeing Islay Gold
it was on special at TotalWine. $38 for 10 year Islay single malt and 2 laser etched glencairns is a steal. I was tempted to buy the 25 year old version, but its shelf price jumped from $130 to $180... for 40%? cant do it.
>Black Bottle good again
it's not well distributed in the US and I'll be damned if I'm paying $12-$38 shipping to get a taste of a $20 bottle(maybe for Nevis Dew if I'm feeling cheeky)
>tastings/contrasts
even nice grains get beat down by basic single malts, but yeah most of the time anymore if I'm not comparing 2 or more pours at a time I dont have as good a time with any one particular glass.

I want to branch out to other spirits but my budget is only big enough for very occasional splurges and I feel like nothing else is going to hit the spot quite like Scotch so I'm really apprehensive about committing to dropping $200-$300 on a handful of bottles that could have easily been spent on perfectly fine whisky, especially since it seems that their prices are chasing other luxury products.

>>19818527
24 year bottle for $100 is a steal. Good price on the tyrconnel too
> committing to dropping $200-$300 on a handful of bottles
get a vintage armagnac, can't go wrong with that

Tried some of this recently because it was on clearance sale, pretty good.

>>19818754
it's not a vintage, but I did try out Domaine Tariquet 15. pretty nice but I'm not sure I'm a fan and I dont know if its oak or the spirit that throws me.

Playing with the notion of getting a Delord 1990 vintage, but the whisky, it beckons me.

bought a springbank for the first time, gonna taste later today. hope it lives up to the hype. 100 euro for a 10yo is mental ngl

>>19820008
that is almost double msrp. the times i've had springbank i've always enjoyed it but at the prices it's going for now i don't want to buy a bottle, it's nice but not that nice