/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>19755801
>like that's just raw right?
No, it's cooked medium-rare.
>what would well done be in this case, just cooked properly?
No, well-done would be overcooked.

>>19755908
Enjoy your salmonella retard

>>19756107
steak tartare is a thing
carpaccio is a thing
eating raw beef is reasonably safe, unless you live in a third world country

>>19756154
I live in the USA so, yes I do.

>>19756154
Here's the thing though, what's the benefit of raw or rare beef? You have higher water content sure, which a lot of people erroneously call "juicy". But I don't think watery meat has a decent texture, or if you're so obsessed with it, why not just cook the meat properly and then inject extra water or use a condiment to supplant the missing water content?

Here's the benefit of cooking the meat properly: as the fat renders out, it contributes to an even browning of the outside of the meat, making it crispy and allowing the outside of the meat to better incorporate the spicing. Cooking the meat also causes denaturation which makes the proteins more easy to digest and releases different aromas and textures across the entirety of the meat. Most of the fat that is rendered out during cooking still sticks to the meat, but if you're so worried about the meat not being fatty enough, once again, you can just add some condiment or some oils retroactively to supplement it.

There is literally no reason to eat raw or undercooked meat as opposed to properly prepared and cooked meat.

>>19756294
>dry ass burgers are okay because you can always drown them in sauce
Every. Fucking. Time.

>>19756330
Nobody's talking about dry burgers or drowning in sauce. Even if 50% of the fat is rendered out during the cooking process from your average ground beef, you are still left with 15% fat incorporated in and around the patty. That should be plenty to anyone who doesn't want liquid fat oozing out of their meats. Or you know, just cook your patties in grease.

>>19756355
>water, fat, sauce, condiments, and collagen
>meh it's all the same thing
If you want to improve your cooking, I have some suggestions. First off, learn the basics.
>Nobody's talking about dry burgers or drowning in sauce.
>why not just cook the meat properly and then inject extra water or use a condiment to supplant the missing water content?
>once again, you can just add some condiment or some oils retroactively to supplement it
You clown. You are posting, not chatting. We can see what you typed.

>retards that don't know difference between local butcher meat vs supermarket cheap meat dangerous to eat raw
I wouldn't open a restaurant if I were you, enjoy the food poisoning.

>>19756355
You just wrote an entire post talking about cooking out all the moisture...
>>19756411
Most restaurants aren't grinding their own meat or buying it daily from a butcher. And yet every restaurant cooks medium-rare burgers, and lots of people order them that way. And yet nobody is getting sick. Curious.

>>19756392
>I have some suggestions. First off, learn the basics.
Ah yes, the basics of cooking being "don't cook the meat"

>>19756420
You are just being a prissy bitch, and I'd almost bet money every country on the planet has dishes that doesn't involve cooking meat to the point where it's jerky.

>>19755801

There's a stronger iron taste in medium rare than medium, plus the texture of the steak is softer

>>19756435
>cooking meat to the point where it's jerky
Nice way to out yourself as knowing literally zero shit about cooking&food. Jerky is not cooked. It's dehydrated. You can literally never ever achieve the consistency of jerky simply through cooking. Maybe stop posting for the day and pick up some basic chemistry books.

>>19756107
burgers are fine so long as they're at least medium, although I'll admit medium rare is pushing it

>>19756154
i got some ground chuck from a local farm+butcher shop the other day. i ate some raw with salt&pep and it was fucking delicious; my roomate looked at me like i was a psycho. i offered him some but he turned it down like a pansy. like man this was a cow probably not even 8 hours ago from a butcher i trust, you really not gonna partake in this delicious treat?

>>19755801
Your pic is medium.
I honestly don't have a problem with burgers being cooked well done because of how the fat is distributed into the ground beef.

>>19756107
Beef doesn't have any pathogens that need high heat to kill.
The reason you want to cook ground beef well done is because after being ground up, you're exposing 1000x more meat to the elements for bacteria to grow.

If you must eat a burger med rare, smoke it. kills all the junks and barely cooks it. Salmon is fine med rare, the parasites in fish are killed off in deep freezing.

>>19756294
>what's the benefit of raw or rare beef?
It tastes good. Duh.

>>19756728
You have to understand that a lot of nu-/ck/ came from either /fit/ or /pol/eddit, and have a really skewed conception of food and cooking. A lot of them think of it as just a means to an end, and something that's not supposed to be exciting or even enjoyable. Add to that the fact that zoomers are scared of their own shadows and have no clue how to discern fact from fiction on the internet despite having used it their entire lives, and the bizarre shit they post starts to make a little more sense.

>>19756762
>the bizarre shit they post starts to make a little more sense
I doubt that a lot. How can someone have that much brain damage and still post in something approximating coherent sentences?
>came from either /fit/ or /pol/eddit
Oh, that's how. That stuff rots the neurons and common sense.

>>19756294
they're just different preparations and different ways of enjoying beef. I love juicy warm medium rare steaks, but sometimes I fancy a nice tartare, a carpaccio or even a blue rare steak. Cold raw meat is tasty in its own way.
But here's the catch: to prepare those dishes you normally use cuts of beef that would otherwise taste meh when properly cooked for a steak. Usually very lean and not so tender ones (that's why you cut it in very thin slices or grind it up). Some people even use tenderloin, but it's kinda wasteful. But it would be an ever bigger waste to use a nice steak with a lot of marbling for tartare. To each its own, as you can see.

>>19756776
It's also worth mentioning that they don't really go outside and have irl friends, which means their entire frame of reference comes from whatever their mom cooked for them growing up, and then whatever they see on the internet, which usually means exaggerated meme foods or whatever the latest clickbait youtuber is pushing. They've often never even tried a food that would have been considered mundane 20 years ago before they tried making it themselves, once, following the directions of someone like Ragusa or Babish - who have zero culinary background and are typically making the thing for the first time themselves.

>>19756762
You can enjoy food without gambling your health...

>>19755908
>t. jack

>>19756294
>t. tastelet

>>19756355
Quick sear + lean beef >> long cook + fatty beef
Former stays moist while the fat is just warm enough to run; latter ends up either too greasy or too chewy.

>>19755801
>What would well done be in this case, just cooked properly?
ruined

>>19756107
>Enjoy your salmonella retard
is the salmonella in the room with you now?

in 47 years of eating rare, to medium rare beef I have never once got sick from it.

>>19756416
>And yet nobody is getting sick. Curious.
Lol

>>19756294
>why not just cook the meat properly and then inject extra water or use a condiment to supplant the missing water content?
medium rare IS being cooked properly. anything more is not cooker properly.

>>19755801
>>19756294
>>19756355

>>19756440
>Jerky is not cooked. It's dehydrated
incorrect most modern "dehydrators" are really just low temperature ovens. the appliance makers are so fucking terrified of being sued they put heaters in the "dehydrator" to raise the temperature over 140° the result is cook jerky.

the proper way to make jerky or dried meat is to salt it, and then cold smoke it over a very long period of time. this method has worked for thousands of years.

>>19756776
>I doubt that a lot. How can someone have that much brain damage and still post in something approximating coherent sentences?
go read the conspiracy posts in /pol/

>>19758739
/ourguy/ albert has an easy short for making jerky
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-9DpI8fcp_k
Gonna try it when I get back from work trip

>>19755801
Medium is called medium for a reason. Rare is the lightest you can properly cook a food while still keeping it safe to eat.

Well done takes away all the moisture and taste from the meat. On top of that, it also introduces carcinogens to your meat, so it's objectively the worst kind of meat to consume.