/ck/ - Food & Cooking

yeah youre missing the part where escargo fucking sucks

>>19636024
good idea you could even sell your excess snails to others

Look up heliciculture.You'll probably need a permit of some kind.

>>19637784
>you got a permit for those snails
Do thirdies REALLY?

>>19636024
I’m guessing there’s a fairly stringent testing practice you’d need to implement if you don’t want to poison yourself.

>>19638064
gordon ramsey cooked garden snails

>>19638091
+1 on this anon, there's a video of him where gives his kids like a pound for every 5 snails they catch or something. Apparently garden snails are perfectly fine for cooking. (but they need to have a shell like OP pic I think)

>>19636024
People have been farming snails since the Romans (and earlier). You just have to make sure you cook them thoroughly so you don't get rat lungworm and that you quarantine them for a week or two eating nothing but corn meal and water so the contents of their wild diet gets flushed out.

>>19636024
Watch the movie Delicatessen

>>19638030
>thirdies

>>19636029
fpbp
it's a garlic delivery system

>>19638091
>>19638217
let's be honest, those snails were probably farmed and then let loose 10 minutes earlier just for that episode

>>19638217
a pound of what?

>>19638243
>rat lungworm
You can also get flatworms (flukes) from undercooked wild snails.

>>19636024
>Is it realistic to start a snail farm at home
Do you live in a suitable climate and do you have enough space for them? If so yes, if not, no.

>>19638580
How much space do you need, assuming OP just wants to feed he & his?

>>19636024
Snails LOVE beer, leave some out in a tiny bowl overnight and you'll see their slime trails around it

>>19638243
What about tomatoes?

>>19638064
Is correct.
>>19638091
>>19638217
>>19638030
>>19638243
Know fuck all. Snails are very difficult to keep because they eat everything (germs, bugs, lethally poisonous mushrooms, laminate,...) and they can digest it perfectly fine. Nobody in their right mind picks snails from their garden.

>>19636024
You need a market for them (upper class continental European restaurants and the people they cater to)
They're a seasonal product: they hibernate and that's when they're good, rest of the year you depend on jarred produce.

>>19638620
don't care. didn't ask. plus your trans

>>19636024
you have to build multiple containers for them and keep track of how long theyve been isolated so you dont posion yourself eatting a snail thats mowed down on rat poison or some other dangerous materials. you also need an outdoor processing area because boiling snails in your own kitchen is fucking nasty.

>>19638619
that anon's point is you have to give them an explicit 'contained diet' before you consume them. Which is to say, you can't just pick up a snail and eat it. Your farmed snail must be isolated and given an exclusive quarenteen diet for 2+ weeks in A SEALED and sanitized enclosure to ensure it's gotten any mystery material out of itself before you eat it so you dont infect yourself with parasites or consume toxic substances.

Some people feed them vegetable scraps or carrot peels or whatever, but cornstarch slurry is probably the most reliable/cost effective way to do it. if you want to feed expensive tomatoes to snails for 2 weeks, go right ahead.

>>19638324
I know he does a lot of fakery and it's been a minute since I've seen the video, but as I recall it looked authentic enough. If you see his really early stuff on British tv before he came to Hollywood his persona was much more real. A lot of the fakery is probably mandatory stuff from Ameritard TV producers.

>>19638620
Yes, I know fuck all, and you are a know it all keyboard warrior faggot.
If I had a garden which I do not and planned to make snails, I would do some more research. But since I buy them in the store along with my Baguette and raw butter and horse steak I do not have the need to.

>>19636029
WRONG.

>>19638309
You only need a permit if they're known agricultural pests. I don't know what kind of snails they are.

>>19638864
I only give my snails the best. Imagine giving your snails goyslop

Graham Ramsay cooked snails once. He went through some process to purify them. But fuckin yeah nah be careful cunt, fuckin some highschool bloke who played ruggers was on the piss with the lads one night and for shits and gigs cunt ate a fuckin slug and now he can't walk anymore.

>>19638955
I did mention according to Gordon Ramsay they are safe but you need the fucking ones with the shell maybe your bruv ate a homeless one.

>>19638938
Is this an American or UK discussion? because if this is Muritards, you people cannot even have unpasteurized butter or raw milk lol. your food standards and FDA is laughing stock of the world.

>>19638967
Yeah nah yeah fuckin oath mate

>>19638864
How many tomatoes would you need to feed a snail for 1 day? What are their dietary/caloric requirements?

Oi! You got a loicense for those snails!?

>>19638984
Give a snail a tomato you feed him for a day. Teach a snail to grow tomatoes you feed him for a lifetime.

>>19638585
If you just want to eat a few now and then a few square feet indoors would do. A sensible way of doing it would be to build a frame outside of them and feed them garden and kitchen waste.

>>19638971
>bong making fun of burgers for too many regulations

>>19639002
Ty for the handsome compliment kind stranger. I am actually a mainland Europe ESL hihi. I feel so flatterred you would mistake my broken English as coming from an actual British person. On a serious note though, I can't imagine having to worry about police when I'm drunk skating with a cigarette in my mouth and beer in my hand. If your picrel was American it would be /b/ tier and have some black person with his fat female cousin and mother crying in the streets oh no Tayshawn what have they done to my little boy oh nooooo.

>>19638971
That's my motto. Traditionalist shit-eating over safety and licenses for anything invented after 1820 because there's nothing saying the government CAN'T requite you to ask for permit to own a band saw. The government is owed everything that is not explicitly carved out as "designated traditional forms of freedom."

>>19639002
>Mass drunk arrests vs Mass Shootings

>>19639044
and mass drunk arrests only affect the actual drunks in seedy part of town.

>>19636024
Op heard about the snail job

>>19639038
The thing is we do have regulations on things like horse meat and raw milk used for cheese etc. getting actually sick from these products is just as likely as drinking from a bad batch of commercially made beer and having a stomach ache for a day or something. So very unlikely.

>>19638864
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>>19638091
https://www-quest-nl.translate.goog/mens/voeding/a25538750/slakken-tuin-eetbaar/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true

>>19638918
I mean it's just pure showbiz, as in: you need to have something to cook for the camera. Like there are times when Ramsay (and other TV hosts) are supposed to go hunting or fishing, but they just couldn't catch the item that day. What do they do? They buy it. Otherwise, there's literally no show to be made. It's not so much dishonesty, it's just practical.

Also, fuck knows what your average garden snail has been chowing on.

>>19639002
It's like a renaissance painting

>>19638955
>now he can't walk anymore
Fucking hell

>>19638955
He died in 2018, 8 years after eating the slug if that's who you're referring to

>>19638620
>You need a market for them (upper class continental European restaurants and the people they cater to)
In Europe people just eat them at carnival stalls.
like a fancier more cultured alternative to getting fries with mayonnaise or a hot dog. they are always cooked in some garlicky butter sauce or something.

There is a fancier restaurant version of them as well. I wouldn't say it's upper class food though more like cultured middle class.

>>19639002
>>19639132
Yes.

>>19639139
>fancier
>more cultured
piss on that, it's a disgusting fucking slug, holy shit
to eat that is absolutely chinaman tier

Get them from some snail breeder or enjoy your brain bugs (might get them anyway if your snails get infected later)

>>19639140
lmao, for a second when I saw the picture I actually thought the guy was posing for a picture before I realized he's probably cuffed to his belt or something.

>>19639147
Fuck knows mate

>>19639145
>to eat that is absolutely chinaman tier
opinion disregarded. yes slugs are gross, but the ones you get from a stall or from the store (usually pre boiled I think) are just as nasty as shrimp or any seafood that looks like a "bug" according to uncultured puritans.

>>19639157
>Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

>>19639129
>Also, fuck knows what your average garden snail has been chowing on.
The article I just linked says you need to feed them carrots for like 4 days to clean them of toxins or something. Would I put in this effort and risk over just getting them cheaply from the store? probably not.
>showbizz fakery
Yeah, I know the cooking part. I was referring to his exaggerated persona on the American version of Kitchen Nightmares vs the earlier British one.

>>19639147
He's not wearing a belt

>>19638938
What kind of snail isn't a pest?

>>19638309
It's not '00s anymore, anon - the good ol' US of A is a thirdworld country

>>19636024
>am I missing something?
parasites

>>19638634
>>19638928
well written post explaining OP question and you took time to post that?
there are better websites for you anons - they even have emojis, like buttons, and short form content

>>19639132
It's one of the greatest photos I've ever seen. Manchester, New Year's Eve 2015

>>19638864
This. It's probably easier just to by canned or frozen ones.
Beurre d'escargot is also pretty easy to make and the only reason to eat snails.

>>19636024
The desirable species doesn't exist where I live and it would be illegal to import them alive. I've tried it with the native ones but it was a bit disappointing. The best I can do is order them canned or travel. I think the one you want is helix pomatia but I only get helix aspersa.

>>19638619
>feeding snails fucking tomatoes at $6/lb

>>19638309
>permits
We wouldn't have an illegal immigrant population if these mattered

>>19638955
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>>19639137
That meal must have left him feeling rather sluggish after.

>>19638971
What's with europeans and being so confidently wrong?

uhh.. bros?

https://ambrook.com/research/livestock/snail-farming-invasive-species-escargot

Here's a good article about one guy trying exactly this. USDA calls most snails invasive species, so lots of hoops to jump through, and the US market is limited. Seems like room for growth though

>>19638918
>A lot of the fakery is probably mandatory stuff from Ameritard TV producers.
Oh poor gordon, enslaved by those tv producers and forced to dance to the crack of their whip.

>>19641136
So it just shits in its shell until it spews out the sides or what

>>19640883
wtf? I live in expensive european country and here tomatoes are 2€/kg including VAT

>>19638955
>fuckin some highschool bloke who played ruggers was on the piss with the lads one night and for shits and gigs cunt ate a fuckin slug and now he can't walk anymore
Which is why you don't eat raw slugs or snails like that dumb cunt did.

>>19641136
>having both a penis and a vagina
Are snails the ultimate life form? You'd literally never have to leave home, and you wear your home on your back.

>>19641136
tfw no dart sac