/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Really? I always defrost meat in a bowl of warm water on the counter

>>19618647
I do cold water

>>19618641
Always cook my chicken until it reaches 150 degrees despite the FDA's protests and I never got sick. Why do (((they))) want us eating dry chicken bros?

I fart on it

>>19618665
based. chicken breast at 150 is amazing.

>>19618662
Why? That just makes it defrost waayyyy slower. The trick is to keep changing the warm water as the frozen meat cools it down

>>19618641
The FDA also said that the covid shots were safe, lol.

>>19618719
The then head of the CDC also testified in front of Congress that they weren't monitoring vaccine adverse events.

>>19618723
Ummm there aren’t any more than any other vaccine? The vax literally ended the pandemic and saved millions of lives. Operation Warp Speed was the ONLY good thing about your Cheeto Coomander

>>19618665
The FSIS has detailed charts on how much time is needed at different temperatures to result in a 7-log10 lethality of salmnonella. <10s at 165f is one of the ways to achieve this.
The issue is, telling someone "hold your poultry at 145f for: 8.4 minutes (1% fat chicken,) 8.4m (2% fat chicken,) 13m (12% fat chicken)" etc... is a lot less reliable and will obviously result in people fucking up the instructions. On top of that, turkey and other birds have different lengths of time required for this bacteria reduction at the exact same fat levels and temperatures.
Instead, "hit 165f for poultry and you're good" is much safer to tell people. I do agree there could be a bit more transparency in this, though.

>>19618683
Why not just put the meat in the fridge the night before instead of going to all this trouble with bowls of water

>>19618647
woah, based?!

>>19618831
My warm water bowl method takes an hour and seems to make the meat more tender tasting compared to putting it the refrigerator for 12 hours. The texture difference is night and day

>>19618647
>>19618662

as long as you cook the meat immediately after doing this, there's no issue. it's refrigerating unused-portions of meat after thawing it this way that poses a problem

>>19618641
Probably good advice, thanks anon.

>>19618831
> the night before
If you forget this, or if your plans change, you still deserve to eat homemade rather than overpay for a dinner out that you didn’t want.

>>19618641
one time i defrosted something by leaving it out in the sun

Just cook it thoroughly and you can defrost it (almost) any way you want.
>>19618967
This might be excessive.

>>19618641
can I defrost meat in the microwave or will that ruin it

>>19618994
i think it ruins it

>>19618979
it was in the package still, not like the critters could get to it

>>19618647
cold is good, warm will give you illness.

>>19618994
just do the 30 second on/off technique. If you have a 3 digit IQ and can manage to defrost without cooking this is fine. I prefer seafood for water defrosting , and fridge defrosting is actually kind of overrated.

>>19619072
>If you have a 3 digit IQ
it's over

>>19619079
funny guy, you will not lol.

>>19618926
You're telling me you really don't have literally anything else you can make quickly if you fuck up and forget to defrost?

And if you defrost in the fridge and can't cook it, it's not like leaving it in there an extra day is gonna do anything.

>>19619107
nta but I live an hour from the nearest grocery store so I usually buy a bunch of stuff and freeze it every week, it sucks when plans change and I don't have food for the night

>>19619052
not true. I’ve been defrosting meat using the warm water method for 20+ years and never gotten sick

>>19618831
Because water defrosting literally takes 0 time and effort.

>>19619125
Huh, actually surprised to hear this, but I believe you.

>>19618641
Fuck off, I have yet to give myself food poisoning. Meanwhile, I have definitely had it from goyslop produced by state "approved" restaurants. And yes, that is the state's fault - they approved via inspection these places.

>>19619142
It’s true. I always cook the meat thoroughly and if there are leftovers they’re consumed the next day.

>>19619162
oooh, makes sense. are you mainly talking about minced meat or steaks as well? I come from a culture where eating raw meat is a thing so I want to minimize any bacterial growth during the defrosting process. Even if I cook it I like to take 2 or 3 small slices to eat raw.

>>19619181
No minced meat. Just whole cuts of beef, pork, and chicken.

>>19619042
You are probably correct but sun thawing meat just seems so crazy in current year.

>>19618641
Always wiped my ass with those food recommendations untill i got this bacteria that made me, i counted, shit hot lava 22 times on average a day for a week or so. I feel like it's really rare to get sick, but if you do you will be in a lot of pain

/qa/ refugee thread, sage

>>19618641
>THE FDA SAYS SO!!!

>>19619158
>>19619312
do people really not understand memes in 2024

>>19619072
>Intermittent high heat instead of prolonged low heat
Why though

>>19619139
Objectively more effort than putting it in the fridge

>>19618683
I thought it was the more sanitary option. Idk why I feel this

>>19619125
Oh yeah? Well I've been defrosting meat using the warm water method for 30+ years and I've gotten sick every single time.

i leaft my steak out for 6 hours yesterday to bring it up to properly room temperature as an experiment and im still alive

>>19619181
>Even if I cook it I like to take 2 or 3 small slices to eat raw.
thought i was the only one doing this

>>19618641
I use a water bath with an immersion circulator running with the heater turned off. Thaws in less than an hour most often.

>>19620673
well la dee da

>>19620675
Don't you wish you were a smart, pretty, and charisma female chef? I know I do.

>>19620681
that's a man

>>19620684
thats a woman you idiot

>>19620699
can't fool me!

>>19620652
My favorite meat to do this with might be horse (it is very common in my region) I think japs have have horse sashimi as well. I recommend anyone who is afraid of raw meat to try this. Of course don't be a retard and eat raw pork or unfresh cuts.

>>19620703
Ah yes huge adam's apple on this man.

>>19620703
Female body

>>19620710
So CUTE!

>>19620710
those are 8 inch hands at least

>>19620723
I love manly features in a woman. They are more likely to produce strong and healthy offspring

>>19618647
I'm currently thawing ground beef and pork in the loaf pan I'm going to use to make them into meatloaf. Got loads of peppers and herbs from the garden; it's gonna be a good loaf.

>>19618683
>hot water freezes faster than cold water!!!

>>19620703
have you seen an adams apple?

>>19618641
>caring what the fda says after their "approval" for the gook shot
couldn't be me

>>19619349
those are bots

>>19618647
you don't need warm water.
the difference between a frozen piece of meat and cold tap water is more than enough for defrosting purposes.
using hot/warm water you risk parts of the meat getting into the food safety danger zone, which can activate organisms that cause food poisoning.
use regular cold tap water, swap the water every 10 minutes.

>>19620738
your gay

>>19620738
>I love manly features in a woman
but it's not a woman

>>19620851
Its clearly a woman your brain is rotten with troons

I'm not mentally retarded so I just plan ahead and defrost in the fridge because I don't see any reason not to unless you're incapable of thinking beyond 24 hours.

>>19618647
I put it in a bowl, balance it on the division of my sink, and endlessly ryn warm water thru it til it's thawed.

>>19620681
>and charisma

>>19621548
I'm not autistic so i just defrost whatever meat i immediately crave in a container of water over 2-6 hours

>>19620738
This is why I love Drea DeMayo who plays Adrianna in The Sopranos. She is mannish and strong looking but still very feminine. I’m not gay btw

>>19620723
man i touched a girls hand at work the other day

>>19622226
That literally sounds more autistic: "I cannot handle eating anything but WHAT I WANT because I'M A BIG BOY and I want what I WANT RIGHT NOWWWWW!!!! MOMMY YOU BETTER NOT MAKE ME EAT SOMETHING ELSE IW ANT IT NOW I WANT IT NOOOWWWW"

But you claim "hmm, I think I'll make some tacos in a day or two" is autistic, lol.

>>19622316
How did you project all of that bullshit from me saying i submerge frozen meat in a bowl of water for 6 hours?

>>19622371
I didn't, I projected it from your post that I repleid to, you fucking retarded autist (proof you are autistic: you didn't even understand the fact that I replied to your post was a reply to the content of your post and not the entire thread concept).

This is what I replied to, you absolute mentally deranged fuck-up;
>>19622226

>>19622267
No girl that says a more than a few sentences is attractive.

>>19622662
No, i did understand that you're mocking a mistaken perception of me that you got from a simple declaration of habit that gave no indication of such demeanor. You are truly deranged if you think it is rational to go from reading that I submerge frozen meat upon my whims to instantly believing I'm a yelling narcisistic entitled impatient. You didnt even bother using meme arrows or a seething soyjak picture.

>>19620723
I wondered if she has Marfan syndrome or something since she's tall and lanky. I have Ehlers-Danlos and as a kid I knew my hands looked different but couldn't explain why. Longer fingers are symptoms of those conditions.

>>19622795
>Marfan syndrome
unlikely

>>19618641
is the FDA in the room with us right now. Mr. Schizo?

>>19622820
It affects everyone differently. Some people look like there's nothing wrong with them until they find out they have a heart problem.

>>19618827
I'm looking for a job and like to shitpost on social media. How much are theey paying you to make corprate media talking points about pharmaceutical safety concerning vaccines?

>>19618827
>Operation Warp Speed was the ONLY good thing about your Cheeto Coomander
This. So much this. The last 3 years were enough evidence for me to switch sides. I'm ridin' with Biden from here on out!

>>19622795
you dont have any syndrome, youre just tall and malnourished probably hence u look tall and lanky. for a taller person to look good, they need to lift, other wise they look like slenderman.

>>19622863
I feel genuinely bad for Biden. He reminded me of my dad proir to his last days.

>>19618827
Look at this normalfag.