/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>19486900
I filed a complaint on my grocery stores website this morning because they sell zero (0) loaves of rye bread that don't have weird shit

>>19486910
ok Karen

>>19486900
It blows my mind how many retards don't read ingredients.
>>19486938
>Just trust the mega corporations like a good goy
>>19486910
Look for WASA crackers--I know it's not bread but their Rye is amazing and they don't put weird shit in it. The only place to get Rye is a bakery or a hippy grocery store like whole foods or sprouts.

>>19486900
Any "100% from fruit" drink where the first ingredient is Apple or grape juice when these aren't mentioned at all anywhere else on the label is an instant no-buy

>>19486910
I hope they band your retarded ass from their store forever.

>>19486960
>Buys juice
JFC I hate you retards so much it's unreal.
My idiot nephew gives his kids oj for breakfast (they're like 6 and 8) than has the audacity to complain about his kids being hyper active all morning.
Parents that feed their kids sugar at all are completely retarded. It totally fucks their gut biome.

>>19486900
>Chemicals? But those are created in labs! Icky!!!

>Won't eat anything with more than five ingredients

Wow, you are retarded for not taking advantage of products with complex recipes that you would never be able to make so good at home.

Also you are a troll and retarded because you also cut yourself out of 90% of all restaurant food.

You are just a fucking idiot. But you wanted all of us to point at you and laugh didn't you? Trolling fuck.

Report everyone.

>>19486910
Then make your bread.

>>19486900
I bet you will

>>19486990
>He still thinks sugar highs are real
Still shouldn't be giving kids juice since there's virtually no point and the nutritional value is dogshit

>>19487036
That was plan B, they had a single bag of rye flour, 2lbs for $9.99. I included this in the complaint.

>>19487028
5 ingredients from store bought food you fucking retard. 99% of what I eat is organic home grown and natural. I even raise my own chickens and goats for meat. you're easily one of the dumbest motherfuckers on this site.

>>19487054
bet I will what?

>>19487125
Troll. Keep being retarded you fucking idiot. We are all laughing at you. XD

there's always one in every thread baka

>>19486910
>>19487065
you could make a lot of bread with 2 pounds of flour

>>19486900
>>19486952
>IM LE BASED MAN, I DONT TRUST THE HECKIN JEW PRESERVATIVES!

>>19486990
>doesn't mix vodka in to make the little fucks pass out
lil parenting hack for ya

>>19487266
I give little girls LI ice teas to this day. It is THE best.

>>19486900
chemophobia would disappear if we killed off the low intelligence types

Often but not always.
I only check on products in already familiar with if it tastes different, like red zinger tea from Celestial Seasonings when they completely redid the blend without saying so

>>19486900
oh dear anon, what are you going to do?

>>19486997
Enjoy your dihydrogen monoxide you sarcastic asshole

>>19487339
>it's just a coincidence that lifespans are going down, goy

>>19486900
uh oh!

>>19486900
crap what am I going to eat!?

>>19487361
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>>19487365
If you combined all those things, you would not get the pictured object. You should probably go back to r/iheckinlovescience

>>19486900
NOT THE PEACHES!

>>19486900
Yes.

my eyes are getting quite good at recognizing seed oils, even in a big mishmash of shit i can spot them pretty fast

>>19486900
Cellulose is literally sawdust. We can't digest it. Only termites can digest it. I have no idea why cellulose is added to so many foods.

>>19487370
doesn't matter they all have more than 5 ingredients.

sugar water is less than 5 ingredients and it's probably more bad for you than an oreo made with hydrogenated bean oil or whatever

well unless you have diarrhea. then you oughta be drinking lots of sugar water

>>19487375
it's profitable

>>19487377
I'm not OP, but you're making a stupid strawman. Technically everything has a near infinite amount of ingredients if you want to be enough of a faggot about it. However, ingredients labels are explicitly for manmade combinations, and it is very simple: the more processed your food is, the higher the odds nutrients are lost. Ergo, OP's point is a reasonable one, and you're just a whiny bitch.
Incidentally, how much do you weigh?

>>19486900
>sodium metabisulfate to preserve whiteness
chudbros, is this all it takes?

>calories
>carbs
>protein

>>19486910
>I filed a complaint on my grocery stores website this morning because they sell zero (0) loaves of rye bread that don't have weird shit
The majority of the weird chemicals in bread are from enriched flour. Enriched flour is one of those things no one really questions, like fluoride in the water, intended to mass-medicate the public. It was invented by the same generation of people who prescribed the frontal lobotomy as a cure for anxiety.

>>19487387
no ones making him eat whatever candy or cookie bombs he cherry picked to be stupid about.

you can't get upset over ingredients if you have no idea what is in food already, and you get your nutritional information from /pol/

>>19487370
And you wouldnt get sauce by dumping tomatoes, salt, pepper and basil into a bowl. However were you to apply some sort of process to those constituent elements... well who knows what might happen.

>>19486900
oh shit that means no more:
chili
soup
mixed vegetables
homemade cookies
salads

>tell you OP is a troll
>keep on falling for it

I told you that is what the faggot wants.

>>19486900
>those 5 ingredients can't be chemicals.
ALL food is made of chemicals

>>19486900
>I won't eat anything with more than 5 ingredients.
no lasagna or apple pie or enchiladas or tacos or chinese food or burritos or sub sandwiches or fried chicken or...

>>19487403
That's the point. How can you write and not understand?
>>19487401
>he doesn't eat mcdonalds three meals a day?
>he must be a nazi

>>19487377
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>>19486997
Chemical contents is not the same as ingredients. Everyone understands that there's a difference between natural foods that human beings evolved eating, that are bodies are suited to digesting, compared with synthetic foods that were approved by an industry-captured, corrupt FDA and later pulled from the market due to mass deaths, or which ought to be--or worse, which we haven't discovered to be toxic yet.

You are obviously emotional, and probably have a conflict of interest with this topic. I recommend shutting the hell up and fucking off.

>>19487432
chemical content is ingredients.

OP is both a troll and a poltard most likely banned from pol and came here to be an ass.

he wouldn't know a healthy ingredient if he had a ton of them dropped on him to end his incel life and retarded tiktok beliefs.

>>19487440
>chemical content is ingredients.
This is a false statement. Why start your post with a lie? Whose interest are you serving by lying?

Chemical contents, as described by the weird chemist troll in this thread, is literally every single atom and molecule in a food item. Ingredients is "beef." We don't count every single chemical component of cow muscle in ingredients.

>>19487377
those aren't ingredients. only God can make fruit. you truly are a retard.

>>19486900
I got real good at making bread with all "natural" ingredients but had a problem because I could not eat a large loaf of bread fast enough to stop it from growing mold.

bread with out preservatives can grow mold very fast.

I did some research and found that most bread companies use calcium propionate *GASP* an all natural ingredient with a spooky chemical name that stops bread from getting moldy very quickly.

but you wouldn't know that because you believe anything (((they))) tell you on pol.

>>19487451
>calcium propionate
found naturally in cheese.

>>19487411
>>19487429
your reading comprehension is severely lacking. 5 ingredients applies to store bought foods. I basically only buy various nuts, herbs, fruit, spices, or vegetables that I don't have room to grow myself. oh and I like the original flavor blue diamond nut thins. my little slice of eden provides me with everything else I need. of course what I cook myself contains more than 5 things. those things are natural. no preservatives or chemicals. the only point you're making is that you're an imbecile. and most likely fat. and definitely lazy. it's embarrassing.

>>19487480

this new wave of 4chinners is the most autistic group yet. might be time for this oldfag to retire. it's impossible to have a decent conversation about anything here now.

>>19486900
always, and i know what everything is because i've been vegan since the 1900s. it's rare that i get anything with more than one ingredient though

>>19487537
you're 123 years old? wow.

>>19487430
>how can you write and not understand?
surely, you don't think any human being is conscious for most of their actions? >>19487440
see >>19487487 kek very reddit images

>>19487387
>the more processed your food is, the higher the odds nutrients are lost

Besides schizo rambling do you have any evidence to support this?

>>19487604
yes. it's a little thing called science. if you care to learn there are many books available on Amazon. happy reading!

>>19487604
that's what most processing is, sifting out nutritious bits like bran and germ and such

>>19486990
>>19487060
>they're STILL being filtered by "hfcs sweetened soft drinks are bad therefore all sweet liquids are bad"
Fruit, including fruit juice, is literally the healthiest thing you can eat, even beating out massively health-promoting foods like liver since you can eat fruit all day every day with no downsides.

>the nutritional value is dogshit
Pic related is the nutritional content of the 6 cups of orange juice I drink daily.

>>19486910
based

>>19486900
>those 5 ingredients can't be chemicals.
I don't think you know what a chemical is.

>>19486997
Dihydrogen monoxide is the leading cause of drowning.

>>19487361
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>>19487377
An ingredient is not the same as a constituent. Nice try.

>>19487432
This headline is bait by the way. The study doesnt say that.

>>19489345
>thus micro subset of this group has unconventional views
Now address the actual situation

>and those 5 ingredients can't be chemicals.
So nothing with water in it?

>>19489448
I'm sorry about your autism. mothers shouldn't do drugs when they're pregnant.

>>19486900
>I won't eat anything with more than 5 ingredients.
go fuck yourself no one cares die in a fire

>>19486900
why did you mark out the product name and such? are you eating garbage?

>>19487440
>>19487487
nice reddit host filename. Go back

>>19490075
not my photo, dipshit.

>>19490644
you didn't answer the question.

>>19490448
pic related

>>19486900
>those 5 ingredients can't be chemicals
So, no MSG, citric acid, lactic acid and no whey protein concentrate

>>19490705
if it isn't his photo then he didn't block anything out and therefore your question was answered. if you can't understand that you must really be a dipshit.

>>19487246
I try but have never made a good rye bread loaf. I can make raguler bread no problem. Do you have a rye or pumpernickel toast bread recipe? I want diner style rye that I can toast, butter, and stab into a runny yolk

>>19491100
here's the recipe I use.

Ingredients

3 cups bread flour1 cup dark rye flour2 teaspoons fine sea salt½ teaspoon instant dried yeast1-½ cups water

Directions

Stir together the flours, salt, and yeast in a large mixing bowl. Add the water, and mix until no bits of dry flour remain. The dough will be very sticky.Cover the bowl with plastic wrap, and let the dough rise at room temperature overnight until the dough has doubled in size, about 12-18 hours.Generously dust a work surface with flour. Tip the bowl slightly, and use a rubber spatula or your fingertips to gently remove the dough from the bowl onto your work surface without tearing it. Lightly flour your hands, and gently fold the dough into itself, shaping it into a ball.Generously dust a tea towel with flour, and gently place the dough onto the towel, seam side down. Loosely fold the towel over the dough, and place it into a small mixing bowl. Let the dough rise until it's almost doubled, about 1 to 2 hours.A half-hour before the dough has finished proofing, put a rack in the lower third of the oven. Set the Dutch oven on the rack, and preheat the oven to 475 degrees Fahrenheit.Using oven mitts, carefully remove the preheated Dutch oven, and remove the lid. Use the tea towel to gently invert the dough into the Dutch oven, seam side up. Be careful: The pot will be very hot. Cover the pot, and bake 30 minutes.Remove the lid from the Dutch oven, and continue baking the bread 15 to 20 minutes, until it's a dark golden brown. Carefully lift the bread out of the Dutch oven, and let it cool on a rack for at least 20 minutes before slicing.

>>19487629
Yeah drink 600+ calories of fucking fruit juice to not even cover the majority of your micronutrient needs

fucking retard

>>19491170
go cry someplace else. nobody cares.

>>19487629
>6 cups of orange juice
>As much sugar as 3 cans of coke

>>19487629
Fruit isn't healthy at all, it's literally just designed to spread the seeds of a plant by bribing you with sugar and colors. A plant has no incentive to keep you healthy, you fruitfags are fucking idiots. It's only "healthy" compared to modern hypersnacks because fruit is forced to contain a modest amount of fiber as a structural element, and it's limited in how much sugar it can produce because there isn't infinite sunlight and air. When you remove the fiber and most of the water and concentrate the sugar and colors into juice you're making it just as bad as candy or soda.

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>>19491219
nobody cares what you basement dwelling fat virgin shitdicks has to say. fuck off.

>>19491219
>when you remove everything but the sugar it's like alot of sugar bro

>>19491244
>>when you remove everything but the sugar
Uhh you mean like what juice is?

>>19491219
> A plant has no incentive to keep you healthy
What kind of retarded logic is this. Who gives a fuck. People who eat more fruits and vegetables tend to be healthier and live longer. Your schizo mechanistic speculation doesn't mean jack shit when you don't have any data to support it.

>>19491449
it's mental gymnastics to make himself feel better about being a fat garbage eating faggot. I can smell mayo dipped hot pockets in his replies.

>>19486900
Yeah. It actually makes shopping way easier. I don't purchase anything containing an ingredient that is more than 4 syllables.

>>19486900
I generally avoid food that comes in packaging.

>>19491449
>People who eat more fruits and vegetables tend to be healthier and live longer.
That's because people who follow the fabricated dietary guidelines cooked up by the government also happen to follow other advice that's actually good. People who care about their health do everything they're told, some of which is to exercise and avoid sugar and drugs. But the real reason the government tells you to eat fruit and vegetables is because there's not enough real food to feed the massive filthy underclass. They need most of the human cattle eating gruel so the elite can have as much meat as they want.
>>19491465
Post your body fruitfag, you probably look like a Brazilian twink with wasting disease

>>19491538
you first, fat faggot.

>>19486900
>those 5 ingredients can't be chemicals.
so you don't eat anything with "water"? fucking dumb faggot, so easy to dunk on you room temperature IQs

>>19491553
based and simpleton-pilled

>>19491553
dumb fuck actually thinks he dropped the mic. kek

>>19491219
>A plant has no incentive to keep you healthy, you fruitfags are fucking idiots
Wait, so you want to say that my broccoli... loves me?

>>19489955
No table sugar or salt in it either? Those are chemicals too.

>>19486910
buy at a real, local bakery, not a (((bakery))) and ASK like jeez

>>19487354
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>>19487417
Isn't it so unusual to consider the possibility that some weird Corporation just wanted to show a bunch of anti-healthy propaganda and took the time to actually make these to try to make healthy people look stupid so that they would give up and stop eating healthy?

>>19491219
Actually fruit does have an incentive to keep people healthy, if fruit were a sentient conscious organism. The reasoning would be that if people who eat fruit stay healthy that means that those people are alive and are more likely to continue eating fruit to be more likely to spread the seeds so that fruit can multiply and grow more. It's sort of like how you always hear these weird stories about these horrible criminal drug dealers who still have to put a certain level of care for their customers because if all their customers die then no one buys their drugs the next time.

>>19486900
I usually watch out for shit oils and avoid them when I can.

>>19491656
Broccoli doesn't intend for you to eat the broccoli-part. It's made of important materials because it loves itself -- that's the plant's actual body.
>>19491828
This argument makes no sense. By the same logic, coca-cola has an incentive to be healthy because if everyone dies they won't drink cola anymore. In actuality, fruit only needs to be not-poisonous enough that you don't keel over immediately after eating it, to escape the scrutiny of the lowest common denominator of human cattle, which happens to also be the same standard that soda is held to.
>>19491548
You'll never be as healthy as me by eating fruit, twink

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>>19491958
Do you actually think Coca-Cola has thoughts and feelings

>>19486900
Check out baby formula

>>19491964
I'm obviously referring to the corporation that creates it which is staffed by sentient humans, and by extension, the market environment which dictates the optimal behavior for all the corporations that make junk food. They're governed by the same natural laws that dictate the behavior of plants that produce junk fruit.

>>19491958
that's the body of a faggot. literally. I just reverse image searched it.

>>19491997
I used AI sentiment analysis to search the unique linguistic fingerprint from your posts and found this photo of you in the fruit aisle

>>19492142
so you're not denying you stole a photo a faggot to pass off as your own. kek. that means you thought that body looked good. super gay bro.

>>19492154
I didn't think you actually intended for anyone to believe your claim. Obviously if I stole that photo from somewhere and you found the source you would've posted a screenshot of where it's from. I'll give you some advice: if you're actually this stupid, don't bother trying to lie about anything ever, because average people are going to see through your lies in ways you can't foresee.

>>19492162
I don't care enough about you or anyone else on this faggot infested site to provide proof. if they care to see it they can look it up themselves. go back to sucking dick. your father misses you.

>>19491538
>But the real reason the government tells you to eat fruit and vegetables is because there's not enough real food to feed the massive filthy underclass. They need most of the human cattle eating gruel so the elite can have as much meat as they want.
>fruits and vegetables are "fake food" while meat is "real food"
Ahhh yes, i'm glad OP uncovered this goverment ploy, the sinister plan to make people healthier is thwarted at last. Off to gorge on some tendies and chug some bacon grease to feed those carcinogenic cells.

>>19490705
don't need any argument, I see imgur filenames and just know the rest of the post is going to be retarded reddit regurgitation

The whole govt thing where they say "Don't eat this, don't drink that" it's all a bunch of shit. Those fucks change their collective minds on a lot of that shit every few years anyway. Something that's deemed "bad" this year, give it 5 years, they'll flip around and say "oh hey this is actually good for you". Eat/drink what you want and go on with life. Enjoy it all now. Don't wait till your some 70 year old fuck trying to eat that Dave's Triple burger at Wendy's. Want to know why you never see old fucks eating anything like that? One bite would kill them. So enjoy it all now.

it's amazing how a question easily answered with a simple yes or no has turned into an autism competition.

>>19486900
It's gotten to a point where I hardly even buy anything with an ingredients list anymore. Yogurt, cheese, bread, cured meat. That's about it.

>>19492311
same

>>19487629
Orange juice has no flavor and is gray when it comes out of the storage vats in the plant. They add dye and orange oil, and thats what you taste. So healthy.

>>19492311
All of those have ingredients lists

>>19493082
what the hell is that shit

>>19493085
The ingredients of basically any ham you buy

>>19491237
Back to your little sippycup of joos jayden

>>19493082
That's my point. Those are the only things I buy with an ingredients list. Also technically butter, but it's only two ingredients.

>>19493082
That's my point. Those are the only things I buy with an ingredients list. Also technically butter, but it's only two ingredients. Also I would never in a million years buy cured/lunch meat with an ingredients list that looks like that. Anything with the word "soy" goes into the trash.

>>19493073
you are aware it's possible to make orange juice at home, right? it's really simple. you just need oranges.

>>19491219
>>19487629
Two equally retarded takes. Fruit is good for you, but only in moderation. Fruit juice is not healthy. It's basically like taking a coke and adding some vitamins. Enjoy your diabetus.

>>19493735
You don't do that so

>>19486900
Why is this pic censored?

>>19493757
the orange trees in my yard would disagree but by all means believe what you want. I truly do not give a fuck. you have zero impact on my life. die mad.

>>19493812
Imagine being this upset over fake orange trees

>>19493735
This doesn't make it healthier. You're still throwing away all the fiber and just drinking straight sugar water. Might as well be coca cola.

>>19493862
>>19493908
>say you're autistic without saying you're autistic

>>19493915
Cope

>>19493915
Seethe

>>19493930
>>19494008
looks like the only ones coping and seething here are the retards that think drinking liquid corn syrup is the same as drinking fresh squeezed orange juice

>>19494047
Which you aren't doing

>>19494047
>Fructose is healthy when extracted from an orange, but unhealthy when extracted from a corn kernel
This is your brain on boomer science

>>19486900
Nigger WATER is a chemical. Stop using words you don't know the meaning of.

>>19494217
the education system has failed your generation

>>19491219
Thats it, I'm leaving this board forever. Fuck you retarded niggers.

>>19494289
see ya tomorrow, fren

>>19494261
Refute his point

>>19494261
>>19494538
Fruit like oranges have fiber and other things that slow the absorption/digestion of sugar. However eating a fuckton of fructose wether from 1lb of oranges or corn syrup is bad. Eating too much sugar whatever the form fruit or not is unhealthy. Just because its in its heckin natural form/unprocessed doesn't me that sugar is good.

>>19494552
not one single person ever said they drink a "fuckton" of orange juice. you autistic freaks create scenarios in your broken minds to justify your idiocy.

>>19494552
He's talking about JUICE. The orange JUICE does not have any fiber. The fiber is the part of the orange that's literally fibrous. Orange juice whether fresh squeezed or not might as well be called high fructose orange syrup.

>>19494589
typical paint chip eater

>>19494598
Are you still in this thread? Haven't you been mogged and disproven enough?

>>19494771
>retard thinks he made a point somewhere
the foolish always have the loudest mouths

>>19494580
>not one single person ever said they drink a "fuckton" of orange juice.
>here's the nutrient profile of 600 calories of orange juice, which I drink daily