/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>19376455
I don't have time for cooking

>>19376460
Cut down on the "sucking smegma cock" time. Maybe cook your food for the week on a free day and freeze it.

>>19376460
but yet you have time for 4chin. Curious

>>19376455

I can believe it, at least for an inner city single mom who works two jobs. But I work 9-5 and got my Bachelors by just taking night classes until 10PM some days and still had time to cook, clean, play with cat, etc.

Yeah. They're usually "too busy" posting low quality dumb frog threads on 4chan.

>>19376469
>>19376455
Three years and still at it, frogspammer.

I once had a conversation with a former neighbour (she was priced out of the area, lol) who claimed that she ain't have no time to be cookin' no food for her chillunz /during a three hour hang sesh outside with the other sheboons who used to live on my block before us big, bad gentrifiers priced them out/.
It's not about "not having time."
It's about either
A) not having decent time management or multitasking skills
B) not valuing home-cooking enough to find the time or
C) straight ought bold-face bullshit

>>19376491
what?

>>19376455
Not surprising. It takes almost an hour to cook a meal, from prep to plate. Then you spend 10 minutes eating it. It could have more to do with the time & effort ratio of making:eating that makes them throw up their hands and say, "not worth it."

>>19376498
Newfriends who've been posting on /ck/ for 3 years think pepe is a new thing here. Despite him dating back to 2010

"cooking is cheaper than fastfood" no the fuck it isn't unless you're a retard buying combo meals.
I can fill up on tasty fast food for 4 or 5 dollars, or I can fill up on mediocre canned food for 3 dollars, or I can fill up on great home cooked meals for 8-15 dollars depending on if meat is a part of the equation.
yes this is relevant to the thread, time is money and as a poorfag I'm saving huge amounts of time by driving 5 minutes to the macca's or local chicken franchise

>>19376455
Bros please pull out the webm for this fucking brokie, this nerd

>>19376497
Being fat and stupid is like having 3 jobs.

>>19376491

>>19376851
poorfag is poor because he doesn't understand that spending a larger sum of money at once to get ingredients that will last him at least a week is cheaper in the long run then spending a small amount of money on fast food (and gasoline) daily

this reinforces my belief that some poor people deserve to be poor for their retardation

>>19376455
I was having lunch with some zoomie coworkers a couple months ago and I pulled out some pesto dish I made while they were eating some subs they got and they asked me where my food was from, which precipitated the dumbest conversation I've probably ever had

>I made this last night, it's pesto with some chicken
you made that? wow I wish I could afford home cooked meals
>what do you mean? it's literally cheaper to cook your own food at home
no it isn't Anon, you just have more money because you're in management
::zoomers all nod in agreement::

It's not just time. The kids these days think it's cheaper to pay someone at subway to make their sandwiches I couldn't believe it

>>19376455
I don't blame them, but then I remember, they eat fast food more than 5 days a week, then I blame them

>>19376851
I can make a week's worth of bread for roughly the cost of a mcchicken. You probably don't know how to plan meals or cook in general. I suggest you try making a nice pasta meal for yourself, you can even use jarred sauce if you want and it's still gonna be cheaper than maccas

>>19376886
>spending a larger sum of money at once to get ingredients that will last him at least a week
I bulk buy at sam's and a month of midrange offbrand foodstuffs still runs higher than the cheapest non-combo fastfood meals.
>gasoline
never heard of a commute? clearly you're an underage wankstain with no experience surviving on his own dime

>>19376928
>he fell for the homemade bread meme
>larping so hard he doesn't know pasta alone (ignoring sauce, mushrooms, cheese, meatballs etc.) costs more than canned meals
>he's never bought off the dollar menu in his life
embarrassing.

>>19376892
i think its common amongst younger people to think this because for the most part they have absolutely no fucking clue how to shop properly. they'll spend £8 on 4 chicken breasts when that money could have bought two whole chickens, this kind of thing. if you've never learned how to shop properly, or that most supermarkets have absolutely rip off prices i imagine it can seems like cooking can be too expensive.

>>19376954
>pasta alone costs more than canned meals

cheap dried pasta is under £1, most canned meals are £2-4. obviously a canned meal will be more expensive because it uses more ingredients, each of which is more expensive than wheat and semolina, and requires a more extensive process to make.

>>19376941
>offbrand
lol
She doesn't buy meat and produce.
Enjoy your Walletfucker brand Corrugated Meat-like Food-ish Nuggets, you mentally deficient faggot. The existence of waste-of-space "people" like you is the strongest pro-abortion argument I can imagine. You're what happened when your whore of a mother couldn't have you scraped out when she had the chance. She should have swallowed the load.
I'm not even that other guy, but stupid fucks like you need to be condescended to like this.

>>19376851
The other guys may not be that off, but only by pennies.

A McDouble is $2.59 (2x 1.6 oz patties, cheese slice, onions, ketchup, mustard)

Ingredients to make similar at home, rounding up to the nearest cent:
$15.50 for 8 frozen storebrand 1/4 lb. patties ($1.94 ea)
$2 for 8 storebrand buns ($0.25 ea)
$0.60 for 1 onion (assume $0.08's worth ea burger)
$4.40 for 24 storebrand American cheese slices ($0.19 ea)
$1.30 for 24 oz storebrand ketchup ($0.01 per .125 oz squirt)
$2.30 for 20 oz storebrand mustard ($0.02 per .125 oz squirt)
The total for 1 homemade burger is $2.49.
If you bought ground beef and made patties, it'd be about $1.50 each patty, dropping the cost to $2.04, but involving much more time in prep. Noone really sells 1/10 lb patties so we substitute one 1/4 lb patty.

Being it would take about 25 minutes to make from prep to cleanup, and that McD's would probably taste better, if McD's was not out of the way, it's certainly the better overall deal.

>>19376851
>time is money and as a poorfag I'm saving huge amounts of time

>>19376455
I think what people really don't have is energy for cooking. They'll get run down by their job, children, house hold chores, etc. And when it's time to make a meal they just no longer have the energy.

>>19376455
I have a love hate with cooking
The problem for me is that the in-between meals suck, and cleanup, no matter how neat your are and how much you clean as you go, still sucks
You need to make quick sloppa meals or take 2-4 hours going the extra mile with prep or cooking time
The meals that take like an hour are never as good, unless you're really spending money on good ingredients, but then you're pricing yourself out of the value of cooking food yourself anyway
Being a piece of shit for 2 years while draining covidbux has made me realize how much fucking life and time I've wasted, but so does pretty much everyone

Isn’t meal prepping and cooking in bulk gonna save on time money and energy? Why don’t more ppl do it?

I used to do it to help me lose weight but I still live with my dad and he loses his shit and rages when I do it. But still I spent way less money doing that then eating out every week. Will start again when I graduate Uni and move out soon.

I eat the same thing 5 or 6 days a week. Same breakfast, same lunch, same dinner, same snacks. About once a month I'll cook, portion, vac seal and freeze four weeks worth of lunch and dinner, and boil a weeks worth of eggs for breakfast. This means when I do cook on the weekends, it's a special occasion that I look forward to and really put in effort to make sure it's high quality and delicious. Wine pairing, desert course, after dinner coffee/cocktails. The whole nine. Improves your social life, too.

>>19377347
>if i use almost 3x the amount of the most expensive ingredient and overpay by 50% for it then it's almost equal cost
Wow, what a compelling argument against home cooking.

Also, how the fuck is making a patty time consuming? You grab some meat, roll it into a rough ball, then squash it between your hands and you're done. And how are you spending 25 minutes on a dead simple burger? The most time-consuming part is waiting for the griddle to heat up and you can easily get all your prep done in that time. The patties cook in just a couple minutes. So you should only need 15 minutes tops. Then the result is tastier than any McDonald's burger because they never season the patties correctly. I guess you can add $0.02 for the salt and pepper to your total.

i wish i had more time for cooking. i still dont eat out, but it would be nice to not have to live off so many pre prepared sandwiches. i have a long commute, am taking college classes, and work 40hrs a week. i try to meal prep on sundays which is the only day i really have time for stuff but ill be out of meals by wednesday always

>>19376455
I told you it's not about not having the time to cook. I'm an alcoholic and just get way too drunk to be trusted to use the oven.

>>19377347
You're assuming the beef is between $6-8/lb but I see it for about $4.50/lb

>>19376892
Same, I baked banana muffins and brought them into work and some of my zoomer coworkers couldn't fathom that I didn't buy them premade from the store

>>19379329
You just to sissy to quit not some disease "alcoholism" cunt.

>>19379358
Why would I want to quit, faggot? I love drinking.

>>19379351
when i cook, even the most basic shit, most people act like I've just done a magic trick
>omg this is so good how did you do this?

>>19378844
It's a big lump of work all at once on the weekend when you want to relax. Yeah, it's more efficient but it's still hard to force yourself to start after a long week. I make it worse by doing two menus since I get bored of just one in a week.

>>19379384
Same. I try to gently prod them into trying it themselves and sometimes even succeed. Just enjoy being a wizard.

>>19376464
>reheat frozen premade food
Wow mmm so fresh! This sure is better than the freezer aisle stuff wowie zowie!!!

>>19378867
Sounds really fuckin fruity. You can just go to a gay bar and suck cock, you don’t have to put on an extravagant show first

>>19376455
>stand aside

>>19379384
Why are you lying? No one is impressed you do the same thing billions of people do a day

>>19379438
I'm fucking a 22yo zoomy, last week she offered me a grilled tuna sandwich, which I declined after qhickly inspecting her kitchen. I witnessed her adding about half a cup of water to the frypan while the sandwich was frying and putting the lid on. I was horrified. She has a nice innie slit pussy I like to mess around with so I hid my revulsion

>>19379472
surely you are retarded, most people can't cook for shit and are accustomed to goyslop

>>19379472
As a foreigner in the US, my experience has been much the same as Anon's. Many people here are absolutely amazed at the most basic fucking cookery.
>oh, what brand is this cake you brought to the block party? it's so good!
>"you mean the brand of flour? idk, i think it was store brand, but I mixed cornstarch into it to make the flour softer"
>you used store brand mix?
>"what mix?"
>cake mix. you used a store brand and added cornstarch to it?
>"no, no, no. I used plain flour from the store and added cornstarch and sugar and butter and eggs and almond extract and baking soda and a dash of vinegar to make a batter then added green apples."
>YOU MEAN YOU MADE THIS FROM SCRATCH?!?!??!!!?!!!111
Actual conversation I had a few years ago.

>>19376986
That's part of it, but my experience is a bit different. It's partially that they don't have basic ingredients lying around and partially food waste. As in they don't currently have oil and basic spices so when they try and cook a dish they saw on youtube they have to spend an extra 15 dollars in up front costs which contributes to the perception that it's expensive to cook because they don't go on to use those things again until they try cooking another time, but then they probably need rosemary and thyme so again, it seems expensive

And if they're going to make something with a mirepoix they need to buy a bag of carrots and celery, then use 2 of each, and watch the rest rot in the fridge over the next week because they never planned to make anything with those things in the immediate future. I don't think it even occurs to them to make a big bowl of sloppa vegetable soup because that's boring "use up shit in my fridge" type stuff that they can't follow a recipe for because there IS no recipe for that. It's something you learn from your mom or after years of cooking and shopping yourself

The whole thing is just basic lack of life skills type shit their parents failed to teach them because both of them had to work and were too tired to do so. So like all things it's actually capitalism's fault, or if you like, the Jews

>>19376455
The vast majority of Americans are either too drained from paying Mr Shekelstein's loans to do anything productive at home, were raised by the former group and thus have no life skills, or are dysgenic freaks who will always be useless.

>>19378931
Making a patty is time consuming because it takes more time to make a patty and clean up afterwards than to simply pull a frozen patty out of the bag. You're probably one of those people that go "dur hurr it only takes 5 minutes to cook a four course dinner, just mise en plas as you go, retard!", so I won't address your 15 minute estimate, although it could be doable if you didn't have to make your own patties.

>>19379343
I didn't assume the beef was between $6-8/lb. It's $6/lb of 80/20 at a local supermarket's website, hence $1.50/patty. You're probably looking at a sale price, which I of course ignored since McDonald's doesn't run sales in that sense. But yes, you'd be smart to clip coupons to save an additional .35/lb, well done! If your local supermarket does indeed sell 25% cheaper products, it's likely your local McD's has lower prices as well, so the difference is probably still the same.

>>19380375
>additional .35/*patty,

>>19376780
>hour to cook

Cooklet detected

>>19380375
We're getting to extreme levels of learned helplessness here. Do you genuinely believe it takes any significant amount of time to grab a fistful of ground meat and roll it into a ball? Even if you're a ham-handed dumbass it's at most 10 seconds. You did this shit with play doh when you were 2.

>>19376455
I don't understand such people. Most of the time the time you can get meal to come together in like 30 mins.

>Take out meat
>Marinate it
>Throw in oven
>Whatever starch
>Boil
>Vegetable
>Steam (buy a steamer) or boil
>Set a timer
>Walk away but stay close by
>Done in 30ish minutes

>>19380394
No. But it does take time to get the ground beef out of the fridge, set it somewhere, unwrap it, pull out ~1/4lb, roll it, mash it, put it in a pan, then wash your hands and rewrap the leftover and replace into fridge, then clean up anything it touched. Obviously on your last patty, there's nothing to rewrap so you'll save time there. Nobody keeps a tub of ground beef just sitting next to their stove.

If you're also the same who said, "3x the most expensive ingredient and overpay", then that may be why you think the above described process takes less than 10 seconds, if numbers aren't your thing. It's not so much learned helplessness on my part but simply unlearned maths skills on yours.

>>19380375
Not her, but I buy mince/gRoUnD bEeF when it's on special for under $3/lb and freeze it. If you're going to argue that it's not fair that I'm using sale prices, I'll argue that it's not fair to compare /fresh mince from the supermarket/ with /frozen patties from McDonald's/.
Anyway, once thawed, it takes me roughly a minute to form 8 quarter pound patties and roughly 10 minutes time to cook them on a two hob griddle (fuck cooking them over open flame; more on that later). Plus the potato bread ($2/loaf) or buns ($3/8ct), cheese ($3/lb for Kraft singles, using roughly a third of it) and I'm getting 8 burgers for $7-$8 (depending on if you prefer buns or a loaf of bread) and 11 minutes of active working time.
Now, earlier, you argued about the washing up. Yeah, that can be an issue, you're absolutely right, and I can understand that despite it not taking very long (5 minutes on the griddle since I won't put it in the dishwasher), sometimes you just don't fucking wanna do the dishes, especially if you cooked up some fries with your burgers. I get it.
So while I know that cooking burgers myself (which I legitimately enjoy more than any burger I've ever paid for due to how I season them) is cheaper, everyone is allowed a measure of laziness from time to time and it's perfectly okay to go for a lesser product if it means y'ain't gotta do any work for it beyond sitting your ass in a drive-thru. Just last week or so, I picked up some Popeyes so neither of us had to cook dinner and we could still feed ourselves and our kid.
So I don't fault you or anyone else for going to McDonald's or any other fast food joint over cooking your own, especially if you like getting fries with them (my family and I aren't really fries people; we ate the Popeyes with leftover veg sides).
But for fuck's sake, don't be so disingenuous as to say that it takes more time and money to make your own than it does to go to McDonald's. This is simply not true.

>>19380470
Now, back to the griddle. I cook my burgers on he hob because the rendered tallow is delicious. I like it more than bacon grease for frying eggs in. Seriously, try it some time.

>>19380423
Stop being disingenuous.

>>19380394
Stop being a cunt..

>>19380470
You of course won't find $6 beef on special for $3. Remember, if the list price was already less in your area, then local McD's prices would likely be less, too. Regardless, time spent hunting deals is additional time spent, even if not at time of cooking.
24 slices of Kraft singles are $5.79 compared to $4.40 for storebrand. $3 for 16 Kraft slices (1lb) is likely a sale price; it sells for $4.69 in my area; so you're being disingenuous there, too. As I stated earlier, I deliberately avoided sale prices since McD's doesn't really run sales.
When you factor in thaw time, prep time, getting out utensils, cleanup, making 8 patties is way longer than 1 minute. That one was funny.
Cooking 8 patties at once requires specialized gear as you noted, so that's ruled out, too. We're not trying to run an entire McDonald's at home, just cook a burger. For regular people's kitchens, cooking 8 burgers will take much, much longer; and then you have to store leftovers, or keep the raw patties wrapped up (again all of which takes time and costs money for wrapping materials).
Keep this in scope: we're talking about 1 burger here in a cost vs time analysis. I'd already demonstrated that frozen patties at home will cost less than McD's, even moreso if you use ground beef, but only by pennies; but the time factor, especially for handmade patties, may offset whatever dollar value you reclaimed, especially if McD's is not out of your way.
You can't make up prices or snap your fingers to make delicious, homemade McDouble®-like burgers appear on a plate.

>>19380693
>You of course won't find $6 beef on special for $3.
Do all the time, bruh.

>Remember, if the list price was already less in your area, then local McD's prices would likely be less, too
Simply not true.
Ground beef is currently on special for $3/lb where I live. A McDo quarter pounder is over $3 /per burger/.

>Regardless, time spent hunting deals
False premise. No hunting required. Look at weekly ads. See good special. Go to store.
Buy it. Repeat.

>$3 for 16 Kraft slices (1lb) is likely a sale price; it sells for $4.69 in my area; so you're being disingenuous there, too.
Your argument that I'm deing disingenuous unless I needlessly spend more for something I can buy for less is a ridiculous premise. If anything the opposite is true: it's disingenuous to tell me to spend more for Kraft singles than I need to.


>I deliberately avoided sale prices since McD's doesn't really run sales.
False premise since McDo runs specials all the time. I even get physical coupons in the mail or with the supermarkets' weekly papers.

>When you factor in thaw time
Take beef out the morning of, before going to work, and it'll be thawed by dinner time. If you decide on burgers too close to dinner time without the forethought of taking them out that morning, use your microwave's thaw setting.

>>19380693
>>19380934
>prep time
Covered in the other post.
>getting out utensils
What utensils? A spatula?
>cleanup
Coving in the other post.
>making 8 patties is way longer than 1 minute. Bro, I am physically disabled and it takes me a literal minute. /Maybe/ two if my joints are fucking me hard that day.

>Cooking 8 patties at once requires specialized gear
False premise, unless you're arguing that owning more than one frying pan is somehow "specialised gear."

>8 burgers will take much, much longer
False. Covered above.
>you have to store leftovers
What leftovers? Thaw 1lb instead of 2. Or do what I did before I had a family and freeze your mince in single serving sizes. Even quickens the thawing process to a mere minute and a half in the nukebox.

>>19380693
>frozen patties at home will cost less than McD's, even moreso if you use ground beef, but only by pennies
False. Even at your ridiculously over-inflated prices of $6 for mince and $5 for cheese, the price for 8 burgers will be $17.66, compared to 8 quarter pounders setting you back $24. I mean, I suppose 634 pennies still counts as pennies but that's clearly not what you meant.

>>19380332
In my case it's because I usually cook sloppa with onions and/or canned tomatos so I usually have a decent stock of those, but stuff that I don't regularly eat always ends up going bad because I leave it to fester in the bottom of the fridge. I feel bad wasting it, but I just don't really cook many things that would use different kinds of veg.

>>19380939
The original burger was a McDouble; not a Quarter Pounder with cheese. All my prices are easily verified since I looked them up at the time I quoted them so there's of course nothing overinflated about them; they are from a major US supermarket chain and thus typical for your average shopper.
This is a cost vs time analysis. If you want to add more time by hunting deals and bargains, but at a different time than cooking the actual burger, that's fine; just don't think you're not adding more time.
Utensil means more than just spoon.
If you don't think a double-hob griddle is specialized gear, I don't know what to tell you other than your typical person's kitchen has a frying pan that could fit maybe 2 1/4 lb patties at a time. But that's still irrelevant because we're talking 1 burger here.
Again, keep this in scope & scale. An analysis of bargain hunting, cooking in quantity is all well and good and much appreciated, but it is not a comparison of making 1 burger vs going to McDs and buying one, which was the point of the original complaint (that it's cheaper to buy than make, which I of course proved wrong). Obviously, if we scaled this up to a whole kitchen full of specialized gear and chefs, we could say it takes but 5 minutes to make 100 burgers. I believe McDs themselves, using clamshell griddles, cooks a frozen 1/4 lb patty in under 2 minutes, and they fit many on a griddle. But neither is a typical home experience.

>>19376455
I was reading an article today about a small town that's overpopulated with obese people. The fattest woman was interviewed. She works as a carer and she says she's up at 6am and doesn't get in til 9pm. She said she doesn't have time or the energy to cook a healthy meal so she relies on takeaways.

I would've had some sympathy for her but she then admitted she sometimes orders three different takeaways in one day. Then she went on to claim unemployed people who are overweight is down to how cheap and easy takeaways are. She lost me at that point. Physically having no time is one thing but gorging on takeaways and then believing that they're value for money is just a massive denial.

>>19377347
>you have to be patties and can't make your own
This is why you're poor.

>>19380375
>If your local supermarket does indeed sell 25% cheaper products, it's likely your local McD's has lower prices as well, so the difference is probably still the same.
Actually a McDouble near me is $2.79. Ground beef from Walmart is $4.50/lb, or less if you buy it in a bigger package. I'm not sure what the beef would cost at the nearby Publix, I know it's $3.50 on sale. Maybe it's closer to $6/lb regularly.

>>19380693
You are genuinely retarded. Last time I went to fast food it cost me nearly 40 dollars for two meals. The other day I bought 3 pounds of ground beef for 20 dollars. The buns were like 6 dollars. I made 7 real quarter pounder burgers for less then it would cost to get two meals. I still have meat left in the freezer. Thaw the meat out? Nigger, just leave it in your fridge.

>>19381244
Walmart is $5.79/lb., $5.34 if you buy the tube. I have no idea how much a McDbl costs near me since I don't buy them, but I looked it up and some link gave $2.59 so I ran with it.

>>19381262
Irrelevant. The cost analysis was for one McDouble ($2.59) vs cooking a 1/4 lb burger at home ($2.49). Once you start adding in variables like entire meals, you then miss the original point of anon's claim which is that an off-meal item at ff is cheaper or more convenient than cooking at home. I handily disproved the cheaper part; convenience may be more subjective.

>>19381283
A mcDouble is not a quarter pound. This is not a good analysis. Its plainly retarded and cope for being a fat ass.

>>19381283
Also your point is wrong and missed the point that eating fast food is not cheaper then home cooking.

>>19381323
A McDouble is 2x 1/10 lb patties, 3.2 oz. I made it clear that you can't find 1/10lb patties so my test kitchen burger was changed to 1/4 lb (4 oz) since I insisted on using frozen patties in my first case. But you weren't the first to be confused by this: some other anon thought I was talking about Quarter Pounders the whole time! So really what I proved is that a 4oz burger made at home will cost less than a 3.2 oz burger from McD's.

>>19381328
Not only did I never make the claim that ff was cheaper than a home burger; I was the one who debunked the claim with hard facts.

>>19381339
>1/10 patties
Doubt.

>>19376455
They spend all their time not working fucking around instead of ways to improve their living.
Learning to cook is a staple of an improved life. Unless you're a fucking saudia prince, there will come a time when nobody will be around to cook for you.

>>19381344
Where did you debunk it though? Its cheaper to make them yourself. McDonalds doesn't pay people to make burgers they lose money on.

>>19381345
Easily verified. Do you even McD?

>>19381352
>>19377347

>>19381217
>The original burger was a McDouble; not a Quarter Pounder
Same amount of beef.
A McDouble is 50c less or so. Still 8 × $2.50 = $20 vs your ridiculous $17.66, despite the fact that it can be had for far less than that.

>If you want to add more time by hunting deals and bargains, but at a different time than cooking the actual burger, that's fine; just don't think you're not adding more time.
This has been covered. Repeating a debunked premise does not undo its debunking.

>Utensil means more than just spoon
wut

>If you don't think a double-hob griddle is specialized gear, I don't know what to tell you
Addressed already. Use two pans. Same end result. Argue against new points, not old ones that have already been conceded, abandoned and modified to keep the discussion going.

>we're talking 1 burger here.
This was also covered. Repeating a debunked premise does not undo its debunking.

>An analysis of bargain hunting
False premise, since it's been debunked.
>cooking in quantity
False premise, since it's been debunked.
>1 burger vs going to McDs and buying one
False equivalence, since this point has been addressed and covered

>it's cheaper to buy than make, which I of course proved wrong
All you've proved is your willingness to pay more than necessary and unwillingness to acknowledge that it's indeed possible to pay less in the first place.

>Obviously, if we scaled this up to a whole kitchen full of specialized gear
Pans are not specialised gear.
>chefs
A disabled man forming 8 patties in a minute != chef.
>we could say it takes but 5 minutes to make 100 burgers.
Arguing from an absurd premise does not address the points made.
>I believe McDs themselves, using clamshell griddles, cooks a frozen 1/4 lb patty in under 2 minutes and they fit many on a griddle.
>irrelevant
>But neither is a typical home experience.
Owning more than a single pan is also outside of your experience, so that's not really the metric we should use to measure what is typical.

>>19376892
I'm a zoomer who just found 50 bucks and im accutely aware than spending 20-25% of that on general tsos chicken is dumber than reheating some rice and beans, with some garlic to make it a meal. but idk. there are a couple long youtube videos.

>>19381359
A pound is 16 ounces you failure.

>>19381363
You sound like me when I graduated high school and thought I could live on canned tuna and rice for the rest of my life. You'll get it together...maybe.

>>19381361
Again, keep this to 1 burger. This is simply a cost vs time analysis of buying 1 McD vs making 1 1/4 lb burger at home.

>>19381364
This is ESL tier. Explain? 1.6 ounces is thus 1/10 lb.

>>19381370
I can live on dollar mangos from the hispanic store, gonna do the rasta thing and do that. dodging the chinese out of higher principal than just being a miser

I can live off dirt and roots in the woods, just need to get pissed off enough

>>19381381
Yeah I'm Jewish too just don't smash it too hard.
Females will make you stop acting crazy they need shit.

>>19381375
If this is a cost vs time analysis why do you only discuss the time it takes to cook a burger vs the time it takes to get a ff burger + gas.

>>19381220
In the case of the modern poor a lot of it is down to the fact that shitty fast food is engineered to give you a large dopamine spike
>>19381402
In the time it took me to walk to McDonalds and back I could've gone to Aldi, bought the ingredients, cleaned my pan, cooked the burgers and then cleaned the pan again. Of course it would be different if I drove there instead but I think it'd be a bit silly to start up the motor to go somewhere not even 2 miles from where I live, though on the other hand is too far to walk considering I've got other options at a much shorter walk.

>>19381402
Because the other anon mentioned only driving 5 minutes (no mention of 1-way or round trip or if the timer started in the car etc) so the convenience was always the base of my reasoning and choices in ingredient purchase. I think others have been confusing me >>19377347 with him >>19376851.
Others rebutted him and said homebuilt is cheaper, which I then demonstrated but with the caveat that convenience (distance, time) may make the ff a better value. Everyone else just wanted to nitpick with me with claims of being superchef or finding the best deal in town.

Summary of my response to his claim:
>McDouble 3.2oz: $2.59 (may be $2.79, per anon)
>my burger 4oz (frozen patties): $2.49
>my burger 4oz (from mince): $2.04

>>19381375
>Again, keep this to 1 burger. This is simply a cost vs time analysis of buying 1 McD vs making 1 1/4 lb burger at home.
Which was discussed and you ignored. I'm starting to think you've got thistle-down hair.

>>19381283
>Walmart is $5.79/lb

I cook because it is a hobby for me
My mother and sister hates cooking
They would rather go on tiktok or watch tv than cook and so for them it makes sense why they hate cooking and see it as a burden that they can't make the time for

>>19376954
You are simply wrong. Whatever logic lead you to your conclusion is incorrect. Are you being stupid on purpose? Or are you just that ignorant. You can even grow basil like a weed, it's so brain dead easy. Do you not like learning? Do you dislike expanding your skills? What a boring life you're making for yourself. What do you even do? Lose yourself in cheap distractions? You can listen to a podcast or stream or music while doing simple short tasks once you've taken the miniscule amount of effort it takes to learn how to do something. No really, what the hell are you doing with your time?

>>19381539
Not certain why you keep saying "already discussed." I'd long before already discussed my points which you keep ignoring as well. I proved that cooking 1 (just one) burger at home is cheaper than buying 1 at McD's, you (or someone) keeps harping that cooking 8 is even cheaper and that 80/20 beef costs $3/lb. everywhere. The latter is of course false; noone cares if you cook 8 at a time or if you like your eggs in beef tallow. Well done on the savings, though.
>inb4: already discussed.

>>19381664
Trite cherry picking so you can tell mom you won an online argument. You got me, what can I say? Thumbs up to you.

>>19381385
I get my nutrional advice from 21 savage when he said he was in the trap eating nothing but rice

that man is alive so I don't see myself buying anything more than $8 bags of plants like rice and beans to boil for months

>>19377642
Doing a real task like cooking is rewarding on its own. Make meals in large batches and freeze. Things like soups and chilis are easy even though they take a long time. Same with any stewed meat. They freeze well and are versatile. Make some smoked meat on the grill. Read a book. Enjoy a drink. Do it while studying or working from home. It's a relaxing experience. Have a show on while prepping or listen to music. Once you reframe it into something enjoyable it's rather easy to invest yourself into it, like a hobby. It is nice to gain skills in general. Competence creates confidence.

>>19376455
Boomers, jiggers and other assorted low iq trash are raised on instant gratification. Waiting 5min to microwave a burrito is simply too long when they need to dedicate 16hrs to tiktok and perming their hair. Sad but true.

>>19381750
Technically everyone is alive, until they are not.
What zoomer term is this? Knock it off.

>>19381761
Not zoomer term, it's from the ghetto of Atlanta. A lot of southern rappers talk about just eating rice and it is a money saver

>>19381772
I hate Georgia so that makes sense.

>>19381741
>I proved that cooking 1 (just one) burger at home is cheaper than buying 1 at McD's
You did not. And that point has been debunked multiple times now. Since you seem to willfully ignore the point, I'll reiterate it here one final time.
Buy meat when on special. No need to spend any more extra time than glancing at the front page of your local supermarkets' weekly advertisements. It will always, always, always be on the front page. Always.
Freeze it in single portions, if you insist on only discussing single burgers, then do that. Oh no. You've spent 10 minutes portioning out and freezing enough beef for 12 burgers (IE less than a minute per).
Thaw it when you want a burger, either by placing it in he fridge before work (negligible amount of work time) or using the microwave's defrost feature (a minute and a half).
Cook your burger. Should take you no more than 10 minutes to cook your single burger. Likely less.
Eat your burger.
Congratulations.
You got a quarter pound burger for $1.32, a savings of 118 pennies over getting it from McDonald's.
Lets factor in the gas used (a thin red cent), the electriciy to run the fan (same), the depreciation of the home value for using the kitchen (neglibible), the cost of the storage (a penny for three baggies; each baggy holds a single quarter pound portion), the wear and tear on your shoes for standing for ten whole minutes cooking a burger ($500 for a pair of new Yeezies). Oh shit. Went over budget. Guess you're right. McDonald's IS cheaper after all.

>[anon said] that 80/20 beef costs $3/lb. everywhere
Now you've gone directly from false premises to straight up lies. Good job.

>>19381810
>You did not.
Somebody's not been reading this thread.
No need to call me a liar, just post a link to your $3/lb beef you keep claiming is all over the place.

>>19381810
These guys really are just ignorant about life skills. It's like their parents never took the time to show them how to do anything. My parents did the same. They'd take me shopping when I was little but they never made it into a lesson about how to shop. Instead when I wanted to stay home playing video games they let me. I learned to shop at discount grocers and buy things on sale out of necessity since I moved out for college. I paid for college by working shitty jobs that reinforced how important every dollar was. Many parents try to extend childhood as long as possible and let their kids practically raise themselves. No skills learned. I met so many people in college that had no life skills. It was baffling. I just couldn't understand it until I realized they were just coasting on their parents money. Or they simply didn't take anything besides school work seriously. They'd study for classes but wouldn't study on how to cook or even do their laundry correctly. No, tossing everything in together on hot isn't doing it right. The colors will degrade and you'll get holes in your clothes. The excuses are so weak and they know it. Just 30 minutes on google will get you some decent easy recipes with videos to show you how to do simple things like chop veggies. They don't want to expend any effort even when it is a complete gain to their lives. The thought of any challenge they aren't forced to face makes them upset. Learned helplessness is the correct phrase.

>>19381845
Sales often reach that number. Go look at your local grocery stores coupons you lazy boy. Check out discount grocers near you. You're creating your own problems.

>>19381857
Thought not.

>>19381912
Why are you so helpless?

>>19376455
>I-I'm just too busy!
>pounds 3 energy drinks before work

>>19381845
Give me two-to-three weeks /when Fourth of July specials are everywhere/.
Keep the thread up until then.

>>19381931
There's already Father's day deals going on. They're just lazy or live in a very high cost of living area that they can somehow afford.

>>19381915
A simple link or screenshot will suffice.

>>19381931
pic related, good luck w/ that!

>>19381957
And 12% up from last year's $2.49 is... ?
: )

>>19381977
I win. $2.49 is technically not $3/lb.

>>19381980
Was it worth making yourself out as such a useless ass? Arguing for the sake of it, especially when justifying laziness, isn't an attractive trait, anon.

>>19381996
j/k, still awaiting link.

>>19381997
Ugly

>>19381998
Thought not.

>>19382001
Thought not.

>>19382001
Thought not.

>>19382013
>>19382001

>>19382045
>>19382001

>>19376455
Cooking is for poors

>>19382054
>>19382001

>>19376455
To me it is pretty time consuming.

>>19380375
>If your local supermarket does indeed sell 25% cheaper products, it's likely your local McD's has lower prices as well
lol
This dumb bitch thinks McDonald's buy their beef at Woolworths or some shit. lmao.
I hope you're pretty or can suck-start an engine cuz you ain't too smart there, girlie.

>>19382055
Not if you're good at it

>>19382227
Let's be real, their time isn't that precious. Most people on this board aren't distracted by children. They're children themselves.

>>19382328
The fuck that gotta do with anyshit?

>>19382338
The way people try to justify themselves for even making this shit thread by pretending their time is precious enough to do the math on cost.

>>19382227
It's called local economy, fool. There's a reason McDonald's doesn't have prices on their website; they vary by locale. Some clown on here thinks beef is $3 per lb.

>just cook for an hour, bro!
>just work out for an hour, bro!
>just learn a language for an hour, bro!
>just draw for an hour, bro!
>just work on your game for an hour, bro!

>>19383143
>5 hours of self-improvement
>8 hours of sleep
>8 hours of work
>3 hours of meals, R&R and grooming
sounds good to me

>>19383163
>just don't have commute bro
>just don't have chores bro
>just don't have a social life bro

>>19383143
>just cook for an hour, bro!
you do realize that you don't have to stand in front of the oven doing nothing? Putting some meat in a pot and adding some salt, pepper and thyme on top takes maybe 30 seconds.

>>19376455
If shopping takes too much time, do people typically live with empty fridges, freezers, and pantries?

>>19376455
If people cooked while streaming shows, it would be a lot easier for most.
People can multi-task, right?

More importantly why do people pretend to be busy when they probably spend more than two hours every day watching shit on their phones?

>>19383205
>People can multi-task, right?
Yes, watch TV and their phones at the same time.

>>19383180
I work out, cook, practice spanish, and clean all within 3 hours every day. Its really not that bad, anon. And i highly fucking recommend it

I find no pleasure in cooking or eating my own food.

>>19383395
Why do you practice spanish?

>>19383425
Its fun to learn and i know more than a couple mexicans

>>19382605
I just saw it for $4/lb at the supermarket today and that was at expensive ass Safeway so I'm sure more than a few someones're getting digital coupons for a buck off that shit. It's okay to admit that he BYTFO. We won't have a lower opinion of you and your bad shopping ability. It's a mental illness, like retardation or faggotry.

>>19376851
Chicken thighs and rice can taste really great, and makes meals that are like 1 dollar each
meal

>>19376892
Do they never walk into a grocery store? Im 22 and cook nearly everything I eat, I can make good meals for 1-2 bucks at home, but I grew up always being taken through the store with my mom and helping her keep track of the cost. Maybe these zoomers just got slapped into a cart with a tablet or left at home, or maybe their own parents literally never cooked.

>>19383723
It's because they lack planning skills. Example: I buy a whole chicken. At 99c/lb, it will be about $6 for the smallest one. I can break it down into wings, drumsticks, boneless breasts, boneless thighs, separable skin (and fat) and wingtips/thigh-bones/ribs/back in about ten minutes while I'm watching Daniel fucking Tiger or whatever the shit with my son. I'm feeding three people, myself, my kid and his mother. That 6lb bird will provide enough meat for 3 family meals, which will take roughly 20 minutes of active time each.
Alternately, the whole chicken, broken down but not de-boned, will go to making soup, 5 minutes active time. It provides the same number of meals but, due to amazing power of this magical thing called "leftovers," the other two meals after that first one will take practically no time to put together (when you have kids, soup and salad are your friends since they're easy, delicious and fast to reheat).
Just plop the bird, some veg and stock-cubes-and-water (or proper stock) into a pot and that's it (though I always cook down some hand-crushed tomato at the beginning and saute the chicken pieces in it to give it more flavour since tomato is a natural source of glutamates) until you cook the starchy part (pasta, noodles, rice, barley, potatoes, spatzle/chnopfli/csipetke etc) and sides (salads and cold dishes like "mother-in-law's tongue* are good sides for soup), both of which can be done ahead, anyway.
So $6 for the chicken, $3 worth of vegetables and a buck's worth of starch feeds three people three meals (IE 9 meals total) and an additional buck or two for the sides. Idk about you, but $2 per person for an easy three course meal sounds pretty fucking good to me.

>* a dish of fried eggplant slices wrapped around tomato, garlic and mayonnaise, served cold

>>19376954
Homemade bread is really easy and tastes good.
A box of pasta is literally under 2 bucks and is 2-4 meals, a canned meal is 1 meal and is 2-3 dollars here. Pretty close but the claim that pasta on its own is more expensive than canned is just insane.

chicken thighs = about a dollar each, divide cost of pack by the # of thighs
Cup of cooked rice = literally less than a dollar, a smallish bag makes so much cooked rice and is 5 bucks, again use division
salt = negligible cost per meal
seasoning blend of your choice = negligible cost per meal

I can make a plate of rice with 2 seasoned chicken thighs for under 2 dollars. Then I can do that again and again with the rest of the chicken thighs and rice. This is just one type of meal, obviously you can buy ingredients for other meals so you're swapping between different meals that are like 2 dollars a plate. I cannot buy anything at a fast food place nowadays that is going to be filling for *only* 2 dollars, and it certainly won't be good for you. The cheapest grocery meals are obviously not the most exciting or the greatest display of culinary ability, but theyre perfectly fine for what they are and completely btfo the idea that cooking at home is way pricier than fast food or eating out. Of course I can make a more expensive home cooked meal, if I purposefully buy the most expensive stuff and make extremely complicated dishes every single meal.

>>19379474
Teach her subtly by cooking while she watches because "itd be fun"

>>19381847
The problem is that if you genuinely ever believed that grocery shopping was 'more expensive' even while poor and fighting for every buck you might still do what many zoomers do and constantly get fast food or order out.

I truly cant fathom how this idea spread to begin with though

>>19383785
Heck Im much lazier than you, I eat whole chicken as whole chicken. I just cook the whole dang thing and the leftover meat is easy to pull off and store for sandwiches or to mix up with some seasoned rice later.

I think the problem might be theyre trying to replicate restaurant/fast food dishes at home, buying a long list of specific ingredients they dont know how to use, picking the most inefficient options, tossing a lot of extra stuff or wasting food because they cant cook...then complaining it cost more than mcdonalds?
A burger at home might cost more if you just bought some brioche buns, pre portioned patties, all the vegetables separately (and no plan to eat them in another meal), just bought some mustard and ketchup and mayo for your fridge for the first time ever, same with the spices...Then you see your $30-40 grocery bill and cry that mcdonalds is much cheaper.

>>19383831
>I eat whole chicken as whole chicken
Would you believe that I'm retarded and forgot that roasting a whole chicken is a thing? lol
I even roasted a chicken recently-ish, at the end of May.

>>19382605
Anon for the love of god shut the fuck up. I'm a leaf and even with our devalued dollar and high food prices I find lean and extra lean ground beef for $3 per pound pretty much biweekly and fill my chest freezer with it. You're having an honest to god autistic fit justifying why you eat two McBurgers every day.

>>19383143
Fine. Don't cook then. Why are you on /ck/ if you can't make time for it? You can browse 4chan while cooking you lazy bastard. Yeah, adult life sucks. You can either be crushed by it or find ways to create growth and joy in your life from little achievements, like cooking a nice meal.

>>19383885
No. You're lying. You're a lying liar who lies. It is impossible that anywhere in the world has ground beef for $3/lb. It's against logic, against reason and against the law. I was being nice saying it's $6/lb. It's actually $76556743(PrinceSymbol)45678/lb but I didn't want to make you feel poor. I know that's the real price because [no reason given]. And don't tell me about your sales and specials and deals. Don't you know that it takes the average person eleventy-three hours to look at the front page of their local Kroger's sales flier? Time is money! And I don't have eleventy-three hours worth of money to waste so I can save 3c on subpar beef (which is why I only buy organic Notaringyu beef from Japan raised by Jesuit sheiks from the mountains of Burkina Faso and fed on a diet of holy Bolivian acorns and lesser breeds of cattle like wagyu and African-American Angus, as served to me in a McDouble).
And even if I did spend eleventy-three hours finding deals, those prices don't count because [no reason given]. I also enjoy tranny porn and shitting into my own mouth and I'm afraid of little girls with pink bows which is relevant because [no reason given].
Any response? No?
Thought not.

its major cope i dont give a fuck who you are

>>19376455
I mean I have time I just don't want to spend the time on cooking

>>19381375
>This is ESL tier.
not necessarily. you forget that mutts use retarded units of measurement that arent based in reason or logic, hence all intelligent peoples dropped them years ago

>>19384152
We sort of still use ounces in my part of Italy, but only for coffee because 1oz of ground coffee is enough for a 4-cup moka.
If you're the sort to buy fresh ground coffee from a bar rather than a bag of pre-ground coffee from the market, you can ask for it by ounce and they'll be able to weigh it out for you appropriately.

>>19376455
I'm bad at cooking quickly. Although usually when I don't cook it's because I can't be bothered.

>>19384269
>I'm bad at cooking quickly
You get better with each attempt so keep at it.

>>19376892
>The kids these days think it's cheaper to pay someone at subway to make their sandwiches
This is kind of understandable though
>X lbs of lunchmeat
>X lbs of cheese
>X amount of vegetables
>Oil
>Vinegar
>Bread or ingredients to make your own bread
These ingredients will last you quite a while and when you do the math are way cheaper than buying from subway or any sandwhich place
The actual issue here is that there's an upfront cost, that's the problem.

If you're poor you'd be wise to buy in bulk because ultimately for stuff like rice/grains/toilet paper/etc. it's 10x cheaper over time
The issue is you have to spend that massive amount of money all at once at the beginning
Most poor people can't do that, which is ironic because that's the way poor people should be living

>>19376460
Fippy bippy

>>19381761
Nigger you sound older than the hills

>>19383992
>African-American Angus beef
lol
That said, black angus ground beef is $3.25/lb on special at Aldi this week, considerably less than the Wrongy McWrongerson's silly $6 price quote.
I can only imagine how much cheaper the normal stuff is.

>>19385290
>The actual issue here is that there's an upfront cost

Not really. At least not precisely.

I guess more loosely speaking you can say there is an upfront cost. But that's the same with a Subway sandwich. You're not paying 13.99 for the sub. In the quantities Subway as a corporation and each franchise deals with, they're getting the ingredients for pennies. That shit costs nothing...they throw tons of it out each day. You are paying for the convenience of having some Jeet who can barely speak English put together a sloppy sub with a markup on that and the price of the ingredients to pay for the wages of the employee and every other cost associated with keeping a business running (paying the lease, utilities, insurance, cleaning, legal fees, licensing and ingredient fees that go to Subway etc). Additionally, there is obviously a markup so that the franchise owner themselves receives a profit for themselves.

Poor people along with zoomers just don't know what the fuck they're doing because they're really stupid. Neither understand how to cook - even the most basic dishes. Neither understand money so to them it is "cheaper" to buy a sub for 13.99 every other day than it is to buy 30 or 300 dollars worth of groceries one go but which you can make meals out of for a long time. They just see the bigger number but lack the nuance to look at it deeper.

There is not really any upfront cost, it's just being stupid with money.

>>19385290
>toilet paper
We've not bought any toilet paper since before the 'demic. There was a super good deal on Charmin at the time so I scammed the system and went to several locations of the store that had the special both near opening and near closing and signed up for loyalty cards which I used to stock the fuck up. Same with Brawny kitchen paper.
After four years, we're finally down to the last two bushels of TP so I expect we'll be setting ourselves up for sticker shock in 2024.

>>19385657
I see what you're saying, but I think you're misunderstanding

Where I live, a the Big mac combo meal is about about $12 after tax .
Let's say you get this meal once a day for 7 days, that's $84 spent on only 1 meal per day
For $84 upfront you could could make 2-3x the amount of food and last longer than those 7 days
However the average zoomer/poor person gets paid weekly/bi weekly and spending an entires day worth of salary on a non utility bill isn't exactly you register when problems pop up
Spend that $84 on monday+whatever other bills you have and then for the rest of week you literally can't afford anything.
The issue with that is in emergencies not being able to afford a bus/train ticket, medicine because you spent everything upfront being cost effective for the future.

For most poor people, you could tell them to dump their entire check into some stock and in a year they'll be rich, and long term it will probably be true, but they don't need that money then they need it now.
If you can afford to be cost effective on everything upfront, you're not the type of person this is meant for

>>19385697

That's still a poorfag skill issue though. At the end of the day - if you look at all of this just as numbers/math - then you still want to maximize the amount you spend on how much food/calories/nutrition you get. Same applies to bills and putting away funds for an emergency. Either way you're only earning so much per day/week/month/year so a galaxy brain like myself would prefer to optimize those earnings, rather than spend them on frivolities.

Fast food is an indulgence whether you're the ex-President of the USA eating KFC on a private jet or you're a dumb hillbilly living in Methsville, Trailer Park County, Kansas. Either way, there are ideal and optimum ways to spend your money and figuring that out should be a life skill everyone figures out, otherwise they should just an hero.

I guess it's also an intelligence issue as I said, because only poor people would be dumb enough to think it's "cheaper" to eat a McDouble and large fries every day while paying tax on each purchase, fuel to drive to the McDonald's while not taking into account long term financial costs associated with poor diet as you start needing medications and liposuction surgery to keep yourself from dying too early so you don't leave your family with massive amounts of debt. A smart person knows how to buy groceries, how to cook, how to stay healthy and hell even how to garden so they can save even more money on groceries. It's only poors and zoomers that have been tricked by the Jews into eating goyslop all the time.