/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Yt pipo can't season dey foo

avocado on toast isnt even nice and only pedantic faggots eat it to look hip

black pepper tastes bad and it's only widely used because of tradition and availability

>>19329520
I'll start:

Wagyu is an annoying meme and it's getting old fast. It is delicious and desirable in a few very specific applications but outside of that it's a pointless waste of money.

>>19329528
idk about tasting bad but I do think there's a lot of recipes that call for "salt and pepper" where the pepper does absolutely nothing and could be left out

>>19329544
sounds like you've never used fresh ground black pepper. the store bought stuff has no flavor.

I wash my chicken with soap, because white people can't.

The only condiment that should go on a hot dog is tomato ketchup

>>19329520
Microwaves have a place in the kitchen.

>>19329561
disgusting.
Ketchup is the only condiment that SHOULDNT be on a hotdog

>>19329520
coffee is disgusting and makes my stomach wretch, it's for fucking fools

>>19329520
Why don't you post yours you fucking hypocrite cunt?

>>19329550
white pepper is better

>>19329536

Its this decades bacon. As in shallow, empty headed faggots thinking that if they put it in everything and talk about it 24/7 they might fool people into thinking they have a personality.

>>19329536
I remember during the kobe craze I was having to tell everyone it wasn't real kobe because I was #autistic and everyone just rolled their eyes at me which at first I thought was justified because duh it wasn't real shit is served at like 150 places nationwide, your local steakhouse will not have it, don't believe them.
Then later they started talking about how good the "real" kobe has been.
shockedpikachuface.png

>>19329645
They're the "look at me, look at me" types that can't do anything on their own except with tons of retard letters before and after their names.

>>19329520
Clams are delicious.

>>19329637
different.

>>19329653
There can be only one HJ fried clams

>>19329536
It's good. For the first two bites, then it wears out its welcome. It's an one time experience thing more than an actual meal. Eating the whole steak would be gross as fuck seeing as it's basically meat butter.

>>19329701
I gave your mom the meat butter last night

>>19329704
hey, if that's what you're into, i'm not gonna judge. But damn, some people are desperate.

>>19329520
beer should be served with ice.

chili does not have beans or tomatoes in it.

instant coffee is as good or better than ground.

A5 wagyu is perfect for making chili, or burritos, but otherwise is boring.

filet mignon is also only good for burritos.

wine, whiskey and beer are only "enjoyed" by people with no sense of taste or smell.

French food is good and especially useful

I know this gets posted a lot as bait, but I actually mean it: Japanese food as a whole is massively overrated, and the reason I believe it's so overrated is because it's extremely accessible to someone who's just getting into trying foreign foods. There's nothing scary about sushi, ramen, and fried meat, so it's often baby's first step out of his comfort zone.

>>19329777
This is just retarded

>>19329792

>>19329792
no I actually no these things to be true.

It sucks. Bland, gooey and makes me bloat.

>>19329520
I thought of one finally

Umami is not a flavor all on its own, its fucking savory, SAVORY, S-A-V-O-R-Y, sAvOrY, give me a S, give me an A, give me an O, give me a R, give me a Y, whats that spell? That's right, what umami is, that is what it fucking spells.

and I will die on this hill

>>19329520
Beef is shit-tier meat. Its beaten by everything else.

>>19329648
fuckin' weeb
but I agree
>by chance stumbled upon a classic little restaurant in Kyoto
>hadn't yet tried wagyu in Japan so I opened my wallet
>the perfect atmosphere in our private room
>pure old jap decor
>phenomenal
>small cuts, a rice vinegar dipping sauce
worth every yen

>>19329793
but not wrong

I don't believe most of the anti-food rhetoric perpetuated on 4chan. I do not give a fuck if something contains soy or seed oils.

I also don't think there's anything wrong with hot sauce.

>>19329823
It's just a synonym for savory. I usually prefer to use the term "savory" because more people know what it means, but if I see someone use "umami" I understand what they're saying. What's the problem?

spam is decent and I am not afraid to admit it!

>>19329520
>on 4chan?
>I like Gefilte fish

>>19329536
>it is delicious and desirable in a few very specific applications but outside of that it's a pointless waste of money.
so like most luxary food in their capacity as luxary foods. Kinda seems like a moot complaint.

Greek food is horrendously mid outside of Europe. Every Greek restaurant I've been to in North America had bland food. Most Greek restaurants near me are so uninspired that they have to fill half the menu with Italian dishes.

>>19329520
5 guys is not that expensive it's just that retards want a quality burger for the price of a mcdouble
but they're too retarded to realize that's retarded

>>19329520
I support veganism

>>19329970
You would be surprised how many people think that it is a unique flavor.

You would also be surprised how many anime and documentaries from japan go all in on being a nationalist and will say that it is a unique flavor discovered by japan in like the past 200ish years or so. I realize a manga chapter has to be written and pooped out in a week but the documentary had no excuse. I want to say it was Dreams of Sushi, which is why I turned that movie off I think, its been a while.

>>19329793
Thats not an ad hominen anon. He said the statement was stupid, not the anon itself.

>>19330021
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>19329659
it's not. white pepper is the same plant as black pepper, pink pepper and green pepper. Black pepper is just the whole fruit dried up whereas white, pink and green are more refined version e.g the hull is removed from black pepper to make white pepper.

>>19329777
Good fucking lord, these are all objectivity wrong opinions

Most fad diets are essentially the same, and I don't understand why people insist they're different. Low-carb, low-fat, low-calorie, gluten-free all claim to be different, but when you look at the ingredients they cut out, they have quite a lot in common. A lot of low-fat food also happen to be low-calorie. A lot of low-carb food also happen to be low-calorie. A lot of gluten-free food also happen to be low-carb.

>>19330021
me too, been vegan since the 1900s and no one knows i'm 34

>>19330044
gluten-free imitations of wheat foods are often worse for non-celiacs, being made with higher glycemic starches

chocolate mint is good
pineapple belongs on pizza
breaking pasta is okay
ketchup on steak tastes good
lemon does not belong on fish
avocado and cucumbers should never be in sushi
crispy bacon is terrible compared to thick and juicy ones
hard boiled eggs are the worst way to cook eggs

>>19330038
no they are correct.

also if you try them you will agree.

christian bakeries should be required to sell wedding cakes to gay couples

>>19330167
With a special ingredient of sodium cyanide, right?

>>19329701
>an one
esl confirmed

>>19329520
Japanese curry is way better than both Indian and Thai curry
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_curry

>>19330167
If they're really gonna do that, then all religion-based businesses have to do it too. Muslim bakeries, jewish bakeries, hindu bakeries, every single one of them.

What's incredible is that this debacle didn't even start with a bakery refusing a cake. It was actually a pizza shop that refused to cater a gay wedding. I like pizza, but I don't really think it's appropriate for a wedding. And I thought gays were supposed to be better at the whole FABULOUS approach.

>>19330180
don't make fun of esl's. They can speak more than one language unlick you all stupid americans hahahaha

>>19329683
They had the best hot dogs. Buttered, split top buns, and grilled dog. You could add fried clams as a topping

>>19330205
It has a good flavor, but it tastes very toned down to me. Would take Indian curry over it any day.

I actually don't hate fat people that much. The only time I have a problem with them is when they start riding those ridiculous scooters. If they can still walk and if they can fit into an economy-class plane seat without additional adjustments, I bear no ill will.

>>19330212
>Muslim bakeries, jewish bakeries, hindu bakeries, every single one of them.
do they not have to in america?

>>19330241
Whatever the actual ruling in the legal case is, probably applies to everyone equally.

That said, it hasn't been tried before. Seems to me that every time a gay couple cries foul, it's always a christian business. I would like to see media coverage of a muslim bakery denying service to a gay couple.

>>19329520
chicken breast is better in curry
provides a nice contrasting texture

>>19329628
have you tried decaf?

>>19329777
beans i can understand, but what kind of chili does not have tomatoes?
agree with instant coffee

>>19330284
would be kino. Even as a liberal I'd love to see their brains break over that

Remind me of how I read an article about how a Jamaican lady (in Jamaica) is now refusing to airbnb her house to black americans because they are all loud, rude, and damage her property

>>19329536
In almost every aspect of life the deluxe version of a product is like 10% better than the normal variant and 10 times as expensive

>>19330284
yeah i can't find it being done to muslim businesses

>>19330312
>what kind of chili does not have tomatoes?
all, it's in the name "chili", not "tomato chili".

>>19329777
triple 7's of truth.

boiling is a perfectly good way of cooking chicken

before you try and complain that it just makes it flavorless you can complain that any cooking method is flavorless if you don't spice it properly

>>19330167
I agree that businesses should not refuse to serve customers based on what they are.

No bakery should be required to make a gay cake though.

>>19330385
Wrong. The Mallard Reactor actually creates flavor. That’s why you sear after you soya vide a meat

>>19329526
What does being pedantic have to do with Evan Cado on toast? I've been eating for over 30 years btw.

Cheese is absolutely disgusting. I am convinced that everyone just pretends to like it because they have been indoctrinated into a social construct.

Most Italian restaurants are awful. Even the highly rated ones only get that way because other fatass Italians or people who love the same three spices over and over again. I mean, kudos for the sheer variety of shit out there, but 90% of Italian restaurants I’ve ever been to are run by fat Albanian looking Neanderthals. Oooh yay I get to dip hard bread crusts into fucking green oil. What’s next, questionable seafood in a sauce so butter it advances your hearts expiration date by a month? Oh, you have tiramisu? Oh wonderful, I’m sure it will be the thinnest fucking slice of paste that vaguely tastes like stale coffee grounds. I do like garlic bread though.

>>19330205
you must be white. Japanese curry need more hot spice. i want something so spicy it makes me run the bathroom after eating it. for me it's Indian curry

>>19329528
Black pepper tastes amazing on a rare steak. Season before searing so it's a bit more mild of a taste

>>19329520
Grass-fed beef tastes way better than grain-fed. I made the switch a couple years ago and now whenever I go back to eating grain-fed it tastes weird and fake. If your red meat doesn't taste a little bit gamey it's fake modernized (((meat))).

>>19330472
>controversial

>>19330472
>>19330490
not thanks. i need the marbling

>>19329520
food is bad for you

>>19329520
Donair is a disgusting concept.
A tube of mystery meat slowly rotating beside a walmart grade heat lamp for who knows how long is a quick way to food poisoning. The only people who like it eat it exclusively when drunk and literally anything would taste good.

>>19329520
i like canned green beans more than fresh

>>19330205
i like it alot. i need to learn how to cook it

>>19330503
Marbling is just fat. Fat is objectively disgusting and unhealthy. Fat only makes steak worse.

>>19329520
Ketchup with spaghetti is pretty good and it's a decent substitute if you don't have any pasta sauce.

>>19329520
Fish is disgusting

just do your job and bake the cake
too bad, they aren't like you

>>19330385
yes
>>19330419
>never had hainanese chicken
I can't imagine being this BTFO

>>19329528
Yeah that is a pretty bad opinion
>>19329637
Ok now THIS is a bad opinion

>>19330051
They mistake you for a 50 year old?

I live grapefruit flavored sparkling water.

>>19330824
*I love grapefruit flavored sparkling water.

>>19329520
raw eggs belong in smoothies (ideally pasteurized first), and avocados go well with vanilla.

>>19329637
i like white pepper in applications where a mild flavor is preferable, like some gravys and compound butters. black pepper is good when used with stronger spices.

>>19330205
i honestly want to try Thai and Nepali curry over Japanese curry, chiefly for spice and depth of flavor.

>>19330010
I'll do you one better, I have a general preference for Jewish food brands like Bubbies, Manischewitz, etc. and think they generally make great stuff

>>19330820
i hang out with ugly furries

the beige samefood gamer lifestyle accelerates aging

>>19330806
that looks like its flavor is being provided primarily by external elements, and the meat is just the carriage for it.

>>19330503
FYI: yellowing occurs due to a lack of vitamin E, when the meat starts to oxidize.

I've had Chinese food in various different ways:
>authentic Chinese food at an expensive upscale restaurant
>cheap inauthentic Chinese food at a local family-owned restaurant
>cheap inauthentic Chinese food at a buffet
>slightly overpriced inauthentic Chinese food at a mall food court
>Indo-Chinese food at a boutique resort in India
>food at a local diner in Hong Kong
>street food stalls in Taiwan
My least favorite style is the upscale restaurant. Not even because of the price, I genuinely did not like how it tasted.
My favorite is the family-owned restaurant.

>>19330868
It's not it's boiled and delicious without sauce
look it up cooklet

>>19329701
I can empathize with this post

>>19330884
I wasn't the other anon saying it was boiled. I was saying that much of the flavor appears to be being provided by elements other than the chicken in that dish.

>>19329520
Beans belong in chili, but not red kidney beans, they're too hard and don't absorb flavour.
Cinnamon in chili is excellent.

Pineapple in pizza isn't bad.
Other kinds of fruit can be good on pizza. Sliced melon and figs are two possible good toppings.

Italians can't make pizza worth a damn.
Neapolitan pizza is underdressed overrated garbage pizza that uses bad cheese instead of HFLM mozzarella, and alton brown is a fucking dipshit for endorsing it.

Anything seen as the "default" option is boring and I hate it.
I don't like vanilla ice cream, apple pie or strawberry jam because of this.

The americans are retarded, but still, tex-mex is better than mexican because mexicans don't even produce real cheese in mexico, and use mostly their garbage cheese for it.

DOP is anti-capitalist and you should not buy these products. Fuck parmesan and champagne.

>>19330900
the sauce is good but it's plenty good plain.
You boil the chicken in seasoned water, and use the water and fat to cook the rice. The sauce is good but it's delicious without any sauce.

>>19330907
>Pineapple in pizza isn't bad.
>Other kinds of fruit can be good on pizza. Sliced melon and figs are two possible good toppings.
Pineapple works because of the acid, it is not a fucking free for all with fruit

>>19329823
>japanese call flavor umami
>combine things with this flavor to intensify it
>a chemist comes along and takes the umami soup and extracts something called msg
>you can now add these msg salts to make anything taste savory
What is the meme, how is it not real

>>19330917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XREnvJRkif0

>>19330917
I never said it was a free-for-all, dumbass.
I mentioned two things that might work.
And both of those are present in italian cuisine already.

For example, I don't think dates could work on pizza but you're welcome to try.

I doubt you're much of a cook anyways, you seem mentally incapable of subtlety.

>>19329520
Cauliflower doesn't taste like anything, its the AP flour of vegetables.

>>19330907
>Italians can't make pizza worth a damn.
>Neapolitan pizza is underdressed overrated garbage pizza that uses bad cheese instead of HFLM mozzarella, and alton brown is a fucking dipshit for endorsing it.
What if I told you it used to be worse?

The original pizza didn't even have sauce & cheese. The most common toppings it had starting out was lard & salt, or oil & onions. Not even kidding. It wasn't until the Italian-Americans who re-introduced pizza to Italy that they started putting sauce, cheese, and meat.

>>19330917
Figs are really good on pizza.

>>19330907
> Other kinds of fruit can be good on pizza. Sliced melon and figs are two possible good toppings.
Kill yourself.

>>19330997
Oh now you fucking went and did it. Dehydrated citrus slices would go great on spicy pizza.
Berries could work on pizza wirh the right ingredients. Might be good with mascarpone.
Waternmelon might be a good topping if you use it in chunks. Persimmons could be great on pizza. Pears too. I think quince qould be especially good. Marinated or flambeed would be another way to treat the fruit for extra flavour.

I'd like to try some other fruits. Blackberry, salmonberry or currants could be great on it. Red huckleberry too. I definitely want to try blueberries on pizza.

Southern European food is the best food in the world. The Italian-Spain-France trifecta is the way

>>19330429
Thank Christ. I "like" cheese on things, but cheese by itself is disgusting and unedible, solid milk garbage.

>>19330429
asian paws typed this post

>>19330205
Nobody would have a problem with Japanese curry if they just called it a stew instead. Because they call it curry everyone has to go ACKSHULLY.

>>19330645
You just sweat onions, brown beef, put your veggies in and put the roux in man no one in Japan actually makes their own

Hainan chicken is one of the worst dishes on the fucking planet

>>19330205
It's comforting and rich in the same way that something like biscuits and gravy are. Indian or Thai curries are much more appropriate for a regular daily meal.

Roasting bones before you cook them into broth makes the whole ordeal disgustingly caramelly and meaty and ruins the entire flavor profile of anything you add the broth to later.

>>19330212
>appropriate for a wedding
We had pizza and ice cream at ours and it was $50/pp. Could have brought it up to $80/pp and had plated meals but really the fun of pizza and ice cream would have been worth extra $ anyway. Do you really remember the food you have at a wedding?

No, you (you personally, the individual reading this comment) cannot make a pasta sauce as good as the high quality jarred versions while using the same ingredients.

>>19331183
>imported italian tomatoes
will be better than fresh tomatoes from my garden? Terrible take.

>>19331190
Put rao's vs your homemade sauce in a blind taste test judged by people who have no prior experience with either. That's the way to tell.

>>19329777
First one with some wild shit to say... absolutely fucking nuts and a good reminder of who is here telling you what does and doesn't taste good

>>19331196
I think Rao's is pretty good, especially compared to what their competitors are. But no, fresh tomatoes, basil and onion will always beat anything jarred. If you think otherwise it's likely the salt that is making such a difference to you (eat less salt).

>>19330139
I understand these except maybe cucumber

Also I will agree ketch + steak is good, but I would still preferer to have it without.

>>19330412
I like my cakes having homosexual sex

>>19330435
Sounds like you live in the middle of nowhere if the takeaway from Italian restaurants are "i like garlic bread"

>>19330907
>Italians can't make pizza worth a damn.
Im on board with a lot of stuff but this is nuts. Ive been around the world a couple times and from my experience theirs is still the best (naples in particular).

>>19331018
treated quince and persimmon, i could see. blueberries on pizza sounds like a punishment. watermelon is way too watery to be an appropriate topping. blackberry, etc. i just can't imagine working.

>>19329520
I enjoy eating cheddar cheese with wasabi

>>19331018
i have a feeling that golden kiwi would work on pizza since it's similar to pineapple

>>19330907
You think cinnamon is good in chili? Try adding chocolate. Youll love it.

>>19329520
Bolognese sauce is better with white rice.

>>19330376
clearly chili should only contain chili peppers because that's what's in the name, right? no meat, onion, tomato, nothing but chili peppers. fucktard

Sushi is delicious.

>>19331180
I don't go to many weddings so I can tell you easily. They had Moe's catter the food.

>>19331180
Yes
>ex-gf dad's 2nd wedding
8oz steak with mushroom gravy, mashed potatoes and steamed green beans
>another ex-gf cousin's wedding
Appetizers of Portugese charcuterie and for dinner: fettucine ala vodka

Your pizza would insult me you stingy fag.

>>19331427
Alas, my autism is too strong to use processed chocolate. I find cocoa powder to be acceptable, though. You could maybe make a case for dark chocolate. But I think something like commercial milk chocolate would be nasty in it.

gas grills are fucking disgusting

>>19329526
You don’t know what pedantic means

>>19329520
Chicken is disgusting.
Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVza_AnhQ3E

>>19329526
avocado toast hasn't been hip in like half a decade. it's also incredibly delicious when prepared well with a good avocado

I have a few

>unless you live near the coast seafood is very tricky to prepare, uncommon, expensive and not THAT much delicious

>South German food is up there with Mexican, Asian and French in terms of delicious and filling dishes

>The best salad is Shopska Salata, it's simple, nutritious and cheap

>>19331206
but he is right

>>19329777
>beer should be served with ice
>wine, whiskey and beer are only "enjoyed" by people with no sense of taste or smell.
kek, I think I see the problem here

>>19329823
>>19329970
It's NOT though.
It's is a descriptive of the GLUTAMINES in food.
Foods that are not sweet are SAVORY,(or bland)
Try making some mushroom Ketchup--it's Umami condensed--as is MSG.

>>19330284
> I would like to see media coverage of a muslim bakery denying service to a gay couple.
As would I but this will never happen. Firstly, gays will never dare try it, because they know what will happen and dont want to give ammunition to rightists. Secondly the media wouldn't cover it

>>19330419
>Mallard Reactor
The one where they split ducks in halves to power a steam turbine with the generated heat?

>>19330435
>What’s next, questionable seafood in a sauce so butter it advances your hearts expiration date by a month?
That would explain why Italians tend to live quite long. If only they knew, they could become immortal and make pasta for the upcoming eons

>>19329777
Just genuinely wrong on all levels, congratulations

>>19330907
>Hates vanilla ice cream and apple pie

fucking gay and stupid

>>19330979
IMMA GONNA HAVE TO RAPE THAT NAO!!

>>19332067
yes it is, I cooked with msg for years as a commercial cook and home cooking

Citrus and dairy sour being different doesn't make them different flavors.

ITS FUCKING SAVORY, GET OVER YOURSELF

>>19332193
Ok...
I also cooked in kitchens--all the way up to a Tire Guide one star.
we'll just have to agree to disagree.. I'm ok with that--It all comes down to "Is the FOOD good?"

>>19332145
homophobic retard with shitty taste

>>19331183
I smashed tomatoes from my garden and simmered them for a while and just added salt and it was the best tomato sauce I've ever eaten in my life

It's okay to buy minced garlic.

>>19330421
>>19331627
stop being pedantic

>>19329520
Grains come with weavel eggs, which will hatch in time.
Vegans are eating the eggs.

>>19332193
If you put MSG in caramel, that caramel will have umami but caramel can never be savory.

>>19332274
A fair point.

>>19329520
i like diners, drive-ins, and dives, and i'm not ashamed of it
my boy guy fieri took me to flavortown and i'm never goin back

>>19329520
I think butter is useless at best and disgusting at worst, theres no point to butter beyond greasing up a pan, it makes every food it touches worse

>>19332274
it will also probably be gross, ngl.

>>19329520
Mexican food fucking blows
>inb4 le never had real mexicanerino!!
I have. Still blows

>>19332274
Salted caramel

>>19329520
Ketchup is only good as a flavor masker or to try and salvage something that has no flavor whatsoever, like most people's scrambled eggs.

Same can be said for steak sauce, if the steak is actually done the right way then it is totally unnecessary

>>19329628
This used to happen to me until I started drinking more water. Now I just have a problem with it burning my mouth lol

>>19329528
cumskin spotted

>>19332562
retarded racist monkey

>>19332438
Steak sauce makes an excellent dip and salad dressing at least. Love that shit with veggies.

>>19329805
First one I've seen I can agree with. Ridiculously overrated, and no baking it with breadcrumbs doesn't make it better

>>19330139
Yes
Don't personally like it but don't care
Yes
Unfortunately yes, but steak sauce is better
Wrong
Wrong
Yes
Yes

>>19330167
Christian bakeries should be required to not sell wedding cakes to gay couples

>>19330472
Agreed
I think the word gamey is used mostly by people who don't actually like the taste of meat. They enjoy the blandest meat they can find drowned out in other flavors. If duck, goose, lamb, mutton, goat, etc is too strong for you I don't think you really like meat flavor.

>>19332274
I see you have never had...
>>19332432
well fuck this guy beat me too it

>>19332067
Do not forget about Guanylate and Inosinate. I think mushrooms have another one, but I forget the name.

Both guanylate and inosinate act as potentiators for glutamate. It's a major difference from just using glutamate.

>>19332205
Hope you eat dirt and a fucking bullet in your faggot skull

>>19332630
OH NO...I won't.
>Evaluation of umami taste in mushroom extracts by chemical analysis, sensory evaluation, and an electronic tongue system
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26304449/
glutamic acid? Aspartic acid?
All of them contribute.
>Comparison of Free Total Amino Acid Compositions and Their Functional Classifications in 13 Wild Edible Mushrooms
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6155212/

>>19332843
Mushrooms have Guanylate.

This website is pretty interesting.
https://www.umamiinfo.com/what/whatisumami/#cont03_area

>>19332853
TY for intelli-posting, anon.

>>19332630
>>19332843
>>19332853
>>19332877
>I will happily engage in pseudo intellectual hair splitting that represents everything wrong and unsustainable with cooking

>>19332902
>t. Pseud

pizza dough is a meme make it on a tortilla

>>19332902
What's the matter midwitter?
Can't into food science?
Just take the L and move on retard.

>>19332906
I don't know if you noticed, but everyone who owns a 3+ star restaurants around the world is swearing off the cooking concepts you are pushing because they are unsustainable on a human labor, ecological, and economic standpoints.

but ya im the "pseud" lmao

>>19332917
see the post directly below you

you won't exist here soon

>>19332920
> is swearing off the cooking concepts you are pushing
And WHAT exactly are these UNSUSTAINABLE cooking concepts that I'm pushing faggot?
Just admit you're out of your depth here.

>>19332920
YOU need to GO THE FUCK BACK to Plebbit, moran.

>>19332922
wasting time and taking too much time to produces something that has exactly ZERO chance of properly compensating anyone outside the chef. The cook is not properly compensated for the about of autism the chef demands, the very specific food demands are hard on local economies, fucking up what people have grow for centuries because "meme food is hot right now".

"Good enough" and "local" will be the big trends for the next few decades in food, not autism.

>>19332925
>implying food science isn't reddit
lmao

>>19332919
What? The understanding that glutamate, inosinate and guanylate work favorably together to increase umami or savoriness?
You understand that dashi stock, which is the base for 80% of all Japanese cuisine does exactly that, right?

The kombu has naturally occuring glutamate, and the dried fish has the Inosinate.

How is using seaweed and an incredibly abundant fish to enhance the flavor of food unsustainable?

>>19329520
Sous vide is an autistic cope for people with fucked up sensory neueons.

>>19332945
im telling you the flavor is a savory and the main differentiation is on a chemical level, not taste.

you can achieve 99% of the same thing with regular salt. its not its own thing because its 1% different.

>>19332939
You are OBVIOUSLY strawmanning--Or such a retard you can't figure out who's post is whom's.
I said NOTHING about elaborate preparations.
Many quality fine foods and beverages take TIME for the reactions to happen.
How cn you suck so much cock and still type??
No faggot...Your spacing is.
Food science is it's own fucking thing dipshit.

>>19332951
wasting the time to know that, is a negative exchange. You are not paying your cooks like scientists, and until you are that is UNSUSTAINABLE on simply a human labor level.


go on, show me a place paying 300K a year for a cook

>>19332949
Totally wrong. Even babies know better than you.

Look >>19332853

Explain to me why Dashi is used in so much of "3+ star" traditional Japanese cuisine if they could "just use salt"

>>19332960
because people hype themselves up, it really isn't that much better.

that the current movement in cooking, coming to terms with the bullshit

>>19332956
HAHAHAAAA!!
HA!
HAHA

>>19332965
Oh yeah, you know absolutely NOTHING about what you're talking about. LMFAO.

buying beer to teenagers at the skate park is fine and totally okay

>>19332956
Also---
>Don't learn science and technologies that appear to the unlearned to be as Majick--Not even for your own enjoyment.
Get fucked retard--I'm DONE with you.

>>19332968
>in denial
that why you are to not exist

and it will make me happy

>>19332969
>you just don't know it make da soup a trillion times better!
try maybe 10%, the exaggeration has to stop

>>19332975
He thinks a foundational ingredient used for well over 1000 years is just hype! LOL.

>>19332975
>implying you own a centrifuge
lmao
verification not required

>>19332981
Not him, but I do own a large centrifuge lol.

>>19332978
You have destroyed your reputation with your own stupidity. I appreciate your concession.

>>19332925
Fucking ironic because they shut down the right wing queer subreddits

>>19329525
black people when they see chicken that hasn't been cleaned/drowned in dove soap

>>19332980
I know...
The amount of fucking COPE coming off of this moran is AMADZING.
NOBODY said anything about the bullshit involved in the highbrow food masturbation that is "science gastronomique".
I'm no longer responding to the dumbfuck--but I'd challenge him (her?) to either brew beer, or make mushroom ketchup and try to TELL ME that umami, or food science isn't a real thing.

>>19332989
sooooo... Tankie raid?
Idfk.
Who cares.
There's been a concerted effort to make these boards(ALL of them) unusable for the last 4 years at least.

>>19330205
where is this picture from? all pictures of japanese curry just look like gravy, this one actually looks like curry

>>19332985
>ur just a big dumb dumb,
>i own a centrifuge

so you have the chemical analyzer to go with it? unless you are suggesting you can see the chemical makeup of what you separate by eye lol

or is it just a toy to do techniques that are wasteful and pointless?

>>19333001
I'm not sure what the meaning of this drivel was.
Take your pills, I guess?

>>19333037
ABJECT
B
J
E
C
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>>19329520
i prefer red wine chilled

>>19333067
It's REALLY good in sangria form.
We used to have a recipe for "Purple Funk" at the Donations ONLY bar in the woods at festivals.
Here it is---Please keep it secret!!
>1 empty jug Gallo red
>1 Full jug Gallo red
>split wine between--add GINGER ALE(two liter spilts well,) then top off with grape juice.
>serve over ice
Summertime PLEASER!
*(Gets rid of hangovers QUICK too.)

>>19332562
white people love black pepper it's literally the only spice found in like half of white people pantries

>>19329536
Wagyu is good but all of the hype around it is just an iteration of the Thing vs. Thing, Japan meme.

>>19333107
Based HOME INVADER...
You don't know SHIT, Nigga.

All curry is good, but if you add whole ass green paprikas in it it'll become double good

>>19332995
I wonder what his deal is. Maybe an umami touched him inappropriately when he was young...

Can't really imagine why someone would believe so firmly that understanding things is bad or a waste of time.

>>19333252
>Maybe an umami touched him inappropriately when he was young...
>OOOF!
in MineCraft

>>19329520
I like my meat well-done.

>>19333252
my deal is, food science people are to my job as the unpaid white women are to museum tour guides

the fuck up the economy of work around the profession and do it wrong on top of that, then have the gall to think they know anything

>>19333341
You sound more like a seething boomer.

a requirement of chili is beans.
if you wont eat it red you shouldn't eat beef.
soft boiled eggs are gross.

>>19333443
>a requirement of chili is beans.
wrong

>>19329777
You win
(at being retarded)

One Meal A Day diet is the best and only diet anyone should follow.

Fatty/oily/buttery foods are healthy, it's sugar that is the white death.

Cold brew is the best way to make coffee, other methods extract too much acidity and kill all the subtle flavors.

MSG is nearly as useful as salt an enhancing flavor, and should be used about as generously in a home kitchen.

Fries are better with mayo instead of kechup. Bonus points for truffle mayo.

Cast iron is amazing for meat - steaks, burgers, whatever - and annoying for anything else.

>>19333643
>Cold brew is the best way to make coffee, other methods extract too much acidity and kill all the subtle flavors.
you have no idea what you're talking about

>>19329777
>beer should be served with ice.
ive done this when living in hot places during the summer
its essential if you want your beer to stay cold for more than 2 minutes

>>19329526
Is this a meta troll to get people to be pedantic over the word pedantic

>>19333878
No, it's actually to get people to be pedantic over the pedantic use of the word pedantic.

>>19329617
Nah cut that crap.
>>19329637
Agreed.
>>19329823
What's the difference?
>>19329777
We said controversial, not retarded. Kys.
>>19329793
Google ad hominem, damn.
>>19330139
>pineapple belongs on pizza
Listen, that's the first thing that came to mind. I love Hawaiian pizza (with chicken, not ham). I don't understand the hate about it. Sweet/salt is usually appreciated in many recipes but for reason people go apeshit about this particular one. Yeah that's not a traditional Italian pizza, but who cares? It's tasty.
>lemon does not belong on fish
>avocado and cucumbers should never be in sushi
>crispy bacon is terrible compared to thick and juicy ones
Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. I could agree for the rest above but there? Nah. Cucumber I don't know but avocado is crazy tasty that's delicious.
>hard boiled eggs are the worst way to cook eggs
I could be ok with hard boiled (I prefer mollet) but why would it be THE way? Nah fuck that shit.
>>19331211
>Also I will agree ketch + steak is good, but I would still preferer to have it without.
Yeah same. I can appreciate that but why have it when there is way better.
>>19330979
Yeah.
>>19332908
Terrible take. Terrible. Terrible.
>>19333117
Did you eat it? I never did but I'm pretty sure you're a retard and should kill yourself.

Ok here is mine :
When you buy a cheap pizza at a bakery or Walmart or Aldi, not the good homemade pizza for you or your guests, right, it's ok to come back at your place, put it under tap water during 30sec, and put it into the oven. I'm not even joking, the dough will become soft again instead of crusty and dry like it always is because it has been made hours ago and put in the supermarket. It doesn't change the taste, it doesn't tear the dough, it just make the dough soft, that's all. Because guess what, retard, there is already water in your dough when you do it homemade. It just evaporates during the baking.
Try it just once and tell me I'm wrong.

>>19333643
BASED TASTE
I don't agree with everything...But, there's NO REASON that your veiws aren't ENTIRELY the right thing for you.
Mostly the cold brew...That's coffee Autism, BUT--I do respect that.
Also ALL sugars aren't DEATH.
Your BRAIN runs on Glucose.
Maltose is the Patrician choice.
>2 Glucose molecules--NO Fructose.
Don't get me started on Galactose or Phenylalanine.

>>19329525
>tfw wipipo cooked for me

>>19334066
>checked
That pic...
O
M
G.

>>19329520
when I make tacos, I rinse the ground beef with water after frying to get rid of all the grease. It actually tastes better without all that fat.

lardasses can't take the truth.

>>19334204
yOU'RE A CUNT FOR baiting ME LIKE THIS...

>>19332995
whatever you said may be true but you posted a picture of what appears to be hot greasy feces with a timestamp and I am now laughing at you

>>19334204
>taco shells from the grocery store
>ground beef from the grocery store
>shredded cheese from the grocery store
>Ortega sauce from the grocery store

/cock/ was better than /ck/ or /co/ alone.

>>19334233
>checked
LOL. Kek...ZOZZLE...
It's Mushroom Ketchup--Almost.
There were a few steps afterwards.
>Add spices(HIGHLY SPICED)
>Simmer for 1 hour to reduce
>strain in a clean cloth--save back mushroom bits for dehydrating into mushroom powder...

>>19334204
I get draining it or absorbing some with a paper towel but rinsing is ridiculous

>>19334292
You aren't wrong anon...That;'s clearly a troll.
Or maybe just bait.

Goyslop is a valid term to use when dealing with fast or frozen foods. The only reason you people don't like it is due to targeting your poor taste.

>>19329520
Cheese and yogurt are superior to milk

Chicken isn’t that great

Carrots are disgusting

>>19334066
I must obtain this substance and put it in my mouth

>>19334246
Ah yes, they should have harvested from the local ground beef trees instead.

>>19331551
I remember being a teenager at weddings and being bored as shit outside of dinner.

>>19329823
Savory
Umami, Japan

>>19334152
>>19334677
TFW anons praise your pic but none cares about your autistic block.
This is some french charcuterie/cold meat by the way… A filet of duck put in big salt in a towel during 24h, washed, put in spices in a towel where it dries during a month.

>>19334264
Ayyy my guy... post some more cool shit from that book if you don't mind.

>>19334264
>NEW EDITION
of 1901.

An airfryer of a known brand is worth having.
I literally use it daily.
You're not going to get the same heat up speed and encompassing airflow from convection or toaster ovens.

>>19334931
Try to not write autistic blocks to 50 people.
Make more posts to hide you're the same person, no one likes mass replying shit.

>>19333011
It’s from a YouTube cooking vid
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NsxluRgf-9I&pp=ygUUamFwYW5lc2Uga2F0c3UgY3Vycnk%3D

Belgian beer is largely boring and unimpressive, along with most Trappist ales.

>>19335053
>Trappist
>Boring and Unimpressive
Are those really the right descriptors for it? It's quite bold and rich. Certainly not for everyone but any lighter beer like a lager would be ten times worse in that sense.

>>19329526
avocado is godawful

>>19335053
The problem with Trappist beers, especially Trippels is that they need to be bottle conditioned for AT LEAST 4 months before they become palatable. On the other hand, most beer goes "off" about 1 year after bottling. So many times that you buy bottles of Trappist beers outside of Belgium they've either been conditioned for a couple months and then shipped, or have been sitting in the store shelf for over a year. Both extremes taste quite bad. And in general, if you prefer crisp lagers or pilsners you're gonna have Belgian beers anyways.

My own:
>Irish whiskey > Scottish whisky
>Japanese food is quite bland and is often incredibly overpriced. It has a meme status approximate to Italian in terms of "blandness of food & unimpressive preparation" to hype and cost in restaurant. Japanese food is unironically on par with British food which people love to shit on but is not really *bad*.
>British curryhouse style Indian food is the supreme fast food in terms of efficiency of preparation, cost for the customer, low-caloric value for a fast food and nutrition.
>Rustic cooking style is always preferable to haute-cuisine. I'd take a nice well seasoned bowl of stewed legumes, vegetables and cured or fresh meat over molecular gastronomy or French shit any day.
>Britsh/Irish cattle butchering cuts are superior to both American and French butchering techniques. French/Continental is overly complex and creates cuts meant for a single specific dish; American is crudely simplified for mechanized butchering, but British butchers break down the carcass according to entire muscle groups, giving more versatile, consistent and multiuse cuts of beef.

>>19334298
>>19334292

I actually do it, and it actually is better for stuff like tacos.

When the beef is browned super well, rinsing it does basically nothing to its texture or consistency, it just washes away a lot of the grease.

The braindeadedness of all you cu/ck/s means that you would never even experiment with it to try it out. Your retarded formula of grease=flavor in all cases is wrong.

get fucked/much love

>tasty

beer must have ice.

Mett isn't really that bad at all. It just needs some decent seasoning and it's quite good. I wouldn't eat it every day, but it's completely fine.

>>19335578
She's doing keto. What's the issue here?

>>19329520
I don't mind cutting into my bread early and wrecking the crumb because I want it warm.

>>19329520
I've gotten repeated global bans for 3 days + for talking about seed oils, so I'm pretty sure that's the hottest take here.

>stop drinking soda
>ck: That's rad man, good for you!
>stop drinking alcohol
>ck: hell yeah man, that's poison!
>stop eating fast food
>ck: fuck yeah bro start cooking at home
>stop using plastic cutlery and paper plates
>ck:nice dude, get a good collection going and take care of it
>stop eating seed oils
>ck: uh bro they're fine just eat them dude who cares lol you're gonna die anyway everything gives you cancer bro just eat them lol

Something's fishy... or my name's Archibald, and it's not.

>>19329863
read >>19335741 you have to admit there's an obvious bias on ck, forgot to point out the amount of namecalling with that one too

>>19335578
>raw ground pork
>raw onions
>actually lets reporters inside to record this misery
>says the most obese-denial lines ever invented
>1kg raw ground pork
The smell, her looks, the low IQ. Actually feeling a bit queasy taking this in.

>>19335741
Is this seed oil bad stuff still mostly originated from that dead guy's blog?

>>19335766
No idea what you're referring to, I know about it from rat studies and a friend that lifts, it's getting somewhat mainstream now, a lot of physical stores sell non seed oil alternatives

>>19335783
Sounds kind of weak honestly. It's the equivalent of suggesting there's something to be studied further rather than declaring seed oils at the level of eating asbestos.

>>19335787
They aren't at that level at all, they're worse than aspartame for sure though and seed oils are in 99% of processed food. Really makes you think how seed oils are the only thing preventing the dairy industry from being the big cheese...

>>19335795
Isn't it perfectly logical to use the cheapest oil you can get in processed food? Whatever shaves a cent.

>>19334210
>down the drain
Not my problem.

>>19335798
That's why there's no legislation either, imagine if every processed food had to go to avocado oil or butter, it would ruin the industry. americans will rip on the chinese for gutter oil when they consume the western equivalent lol

>>19335741
>Something's fishy
they are demons

>>19335240
i think they're worried they'll wash the spices away

gamey meat > bland meat
i'll take duck, goat, and venison over beef any day

american chocolate is shit and i refuse to eat it while i live here

>>19329520
It is perfectly acceptable, reasonable and justified to mess with the food of rude customers who mistreat staff.

>>19335741
I've noticed this as well. The individual who expresses such defenses most fiercely also seems to take it amiss if you note that those oils are of near-eastern origin. Very peculiar.

>>19334932
Any requests?
I currently have it clamped for fixing the spine, but here's a free PDF of the whole thing:
https://archive.org/details/b21530105

>>19335240
>get fucked/much love
Go back to Plebbit, Moran

>>19335787
Ok.
Since you clearly won't take the literal 5 minutes to run a search on a published medical/scientific papers site, I'll spoonfeed Babby with some easily digestible video.
https://youtu.be/7kGnfXXIKZM
I'm not a Ketofag, but the studies are sound regardless of where they are presented.

>>19333525
>mouth breather
>texan
>third worlder

but I repeat myself

>go to restuarent
>order a lot of food
>eat
>leave without paying
I live in the metropolitan area and I've been eating free for a month now

>>19329784
That's basic culinary cuisine 101, that's not a hot take you're just a dumbass.

>>19336590
hi, based dept?
I sometimes put mustard on pizza. For some reason, people get loud and redditty about pizza. That's another edgy opinion I guess I have. I dont really feel strongly about pizza, and am neutral to toppings you put on it.

>>19336467
This is like the 10th time I've seen this graph and video posted. How you doing Dr Knobbe?

>>19336654
Yeah, I post it a lot. But I'm not him.
It started when some overwound CICO faggot tried to pick a fight--wouldn't read the papers I posted, so I found that.
Another one I poast regularly is the one on sugar in the Amerilard diet. I'm not him either.
I've watched over the years how robotic, stupid and hypocritical MOST of the medical and dietary science "EXPERTS" are.
about 2/3nds of them are FAT..even OBESE.
A doctor these days, going by BMI will tell you that a 6% body fat weightlifter is obese because of a bullshit graph. Meanwhile the number 3 cause of death in the US is medical malpractice. The last 3 years should've been a wake up call to what a scam most all of it is.
Here's the one on sugar:
https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
I don't agree that Fructose is poison, just that is serves a SEASONAL purpose, and corn subsidies and packaged food megacorps putting the shit in everything for year round daily consumption puts humans into a sort of perpetual ''storing up for winter'' mode.
you should IMMEDIATELY mistrust someone who regurgitates the"Sugar is sugar is sugar" mantra.
That is about as false as saying citric acid is the SAME as ascorbic acid, (I actually had one of the retards try to tell me this--I showed them the fucking molecules and asked them again if they were the same.)
would you trust a car mechanic who put 5w20 in your car that CLEARLY says right on the cap that it requires 10w40?
No, you'd walk away wondering how much business that asshole made for himself on engine overhauls, wouldn't you?

>>19335578
do germans really?

>>19336582
wrong on all counts

>>19329520
Man's worst collective descision was the invention of cheese. I cannot tolerate the shit. It tastes disgusting. Even the boojie euro cheeses.

>>19329520
I'll never eat a burger with pickles and tomato on it

>>19336253
Hershey's was never meant to be a world class chocolate. It was designed from the ground up so poor people could have chocolate, which was previously only a rich person's food. However, many since have come to prefer its taste. The adaptability of mankind in action, I suppose...

>>19329536
No you're right. Wagyu is something you have a small portion off, seeing American clickbait cooks cook a 16oz slab of it or grind it into burgers makes me wretch.

bakeries of ALL religious backgrounds should HAVE to bake gay wedding cakes

>>19336253
Cringe and arrogant opinion. They have a lot of good chocolate, it's just their cheap brands such as Hershey's that gets a bad reputation for some reason. We like to make fun of their chocolate while most of us consume shitty german lidl brands.

>>19337278
What about a gay bakery making an anti-mansex cake

>>19337282
>such as Hershey's that gets a bad reputation for some reason.
Amerilard checking in..Hersheys Chocolate IS SHIT because they use Butyric acid to stabilize the milk. Smells slightly of vomit, and even with the slightly enhanced buttery mouthfeel it's garbage chocolate on par with the cheap Palmer's chocolate.
To be fair to Palmer's they have better chocolates too--but the sheer amount of chocolate bunnies and crosses for Easter baskets seem to have taken their toll.
We have a lot of different chocolates here, it's just the marketing saturation that makes Hersheys the "Amerilard Chocolate"

>>19336467
This is so stupid. Obviously, the more processed garbage you eat, the fatter you get.

Most scientists still don't think seed oils are that bad compared to other fats anyway.

>>19337527
Not saying you're right or wrong, but science isn't a democracy. What most scientists say is completely irrelevant. Whether it's one or a million has no bearing on the matter.

Beer is gross and pointless. It's the least alcoholic of the alcoholic beverages and tastes like ass.

>>19329520
Anyone that would reply to this twitter prompt sincerely or unsaged deserves to be tortured to death

Spinach isn't real food, I'd rather eat actual grass.

>>19331196
That's fucking retarded, when am I ever cooking for random ass people, why should I care what some random asshole likes better? The sauce I cook for me is objectively better than your canned swill. Take your double blind peer reviewed bullshit, go back to academia, and stay there

>>19337353
that's different because the intent is hostile

>>19329520
Cheese can go fine with seafood. Fite me.

>>19337906
Ohh really, that's the difference? The folks who wanted a gay cake contacted a number of Christian bakeries until they finally found one who wouldn't do it. I'm not even Christian but c'mon fella, this is silly

Hardshell tacos with ground beef mog authentic Mexican food. Hamburgers are for children.

>>19338060
>hamburgers are for children
>tacos with hamburger in it are better than real tacos
Not sure if child, or just have a very low opinion on real tacos

>>19329526
avocado functions as a fattier but less sodium heavy butter due to it's almost neutral flavor and creamy texture
it allows you to just add salt and pretend you're eating a shitload of butter on bread

>>19338060
>Hamburgers are for children.
There's nothing gayer than when my wife's anaemic tech worker friends trying to get us to go to new "bistro burger" places with them. I refuse to pay 15-20 bucks for something I can literally throw together in my kitchen for 1/5 of the cost with almost no prep or technique.