/ck/ - Food & Cooking

figure it out yourself

I'd rather read his book than watch another minute of his vids

>>19320325
This. Completely insufferable personality. Terrible person. Even his writing sucks, but the faggot has knowledge.

>>19320337
Guys, gals, non-binary bals!

>*does jazz hands with painted nails while a fuckin gopro is strapped to his head*

if you want to learn how to cook, it's better to watch a talented chef preparing and explaining a recipe than reading a cooking book.
That said, most foodtubers are hacks

>>19320209
J. Kenji Obama-Malala-HilaryRodhamClinton-Lopez-Alt is the only YouTuber worth watching

>>19320209
>Are cooking youtubers worth listening to?
Do you speak French?
>Or should I buy recipe books?
Can you read Italian?

there is a reason they are youtubers and not proper cooks, they either never got proper educated or were too bad to work in the actual industry. So yeah I will obviously not listen to them or give them any of my valuable time.

>>19320568
james alt is famous for his books and articles

>>19320209
I tend to gravitate towards videos since cooking is a craft and you can only learn so much from reading about it. I mean obviously can read, but that usually means you'll need to do more try and error type of grinding back at your kitchen. I usually check out my cookbooks when I'm in a need of inspiration or brainstorming. But like a bad cookbook, be weary of shitty youtube cooks. There are a lot of them out there.

>>19320337
No, fuck his book too. Fuck this guy for starting the whole "food science" trend that gave rise to people like Ethan Chlebowski, Adam Ragusea, and all their other spawn. Cooking was never meant to be a precise science for millennial nerds to jerk off to, it's supposed to be fun. No, I will not weigh my ingredients. No, I will not use this exotic ingredient that can only be found at specialty stores. No, I don't care if cooking something your way is more "authentic". Just tell me the fucking recipe.

Watch for ideas and to boost creativity, not to learn. Not every recipe needs to be copied.

Cooking needs examples and demonstration, which you won't get if you haven't had formal training, so videos can help fill that gap for the self educated; however, you want to focus on those vids which indeed include proper demonstration. Anything else is just cheap entertainment or ASMR.

>>19320867
based

1. Eat the dish first
2. Watch a meme YouTuber make a simple, Americanized version
3. Watch a person from the nation of origin prepare the dish
4. Source proper ingredients. A lot of the time this requires going to a special supermarket.
5. Google tips and tricks and see if anything comes up
6. Cook it while tasting, if healthy, until you get the consistency right

>>19320867
>Fuck this guy for starting the whole "food science" trend that gave rise to people like Ethan Chlebowski, Adam Ragusea, and all their other spawn.
>Cooking was never meant to be a precise science for millennial nerds to jerk off to, it's supposed to be fun.
this is why I will always appreciate the boomer cooking youtubers who started on TV. People like Genarro Contaldo and Jacques Pépin. These guys always emphasize how you can cook a dish however you want, and they almost never measure anything. If they ever give an exact measurement you can tell they're just making up the number and clearly eyeballed it. Pépin especially is my hero, he makes everything seem so easy.

>>19320209
I have learned a lot about cooking and food from Youtube. I have learned a lot about a lot of things. It pained me to see them get rid of downvotes for political pandering, fellating corporations, and soothing bruised egos of “influencers.” I can still discern good information from bad but I do find myself wasting time sorting through bad videos.

>>19321180
Basically my journey. I had little interest in learning how to cook until I went to Italy. I proceeded to eat everything in sight, took mental notes, and came home determined to recreate this food as closely as possible.

>>19320826
Thanks for proving me right.

Most chefs don't really understand why what they are doing works and have no problem telling you to do something that will double the time it takes to cook a recipe if it improves the result by 5%.
Adam Ragusea is an insufferable cunt, but he tests what works and what is cargo cult cooking, so at least you can learn something from that. The Marco Pierre White stock cube videos are also good because he focuses on what is important in a recipe without the typical chef nonsense.

>>19320209
>Are cooking youtubers worth listening to?
Some aren't

https://youtu.be/i-fU6MCPZ2M?t=893

>>19321224
>Pépin especially is my hero, he makes everything seem so easy.
That's because it is dead easy. They used to teach that crap to French girls age 12-14 until the '80s.

>>19320867
agree with your sentiment but alton brown was kind of the real progenitor of that style i think, at least in its modern form

>>19320867
>>19321721
i would argue that this contemporary trend goes back to cook's illustrated and chris kimball. i think that's where kenji got his start, right? i don't particularly have a problem with it and i always appreciated, even more than the food science, the way cook's illustrated is so systematic about trying things and making connections between what you do and what outcome you get. relatedly, i always loved how cook's illustrated tells you what they're going for in a dish in great detail--what they consider the ideal food x--so that when you've cooked something and you don't like it, you have a much better idea of whether it's not a good recipe or you fucked something up. with most cookbooks, it can be almost impossible to tell.

hate that dysgenic hapa so much. listening to smack his lips and loudly say "mmhh" as he walks round his filthy dog ridden kitchen in bare feet, ranting about trannies and non-binaries LOL. funniest part is his name is "James Alt".

Reminder that James Kenji Lopez-Alt is a half Japanese/half German American whose German father is a well known and wealthy Harvard University scientist. His Japanese mother is also well educated and independently wealthy from her family. James is so ashamed of his incredibly privileged white person upbringing in Newton MA, a super wealthy Jewish enclave just outside Boston, that he styles his name to eliminate the whiteness. Even went as far as adopting his wife’s last name, Lopez, to distance himself even further from his whiteness. He’s ashamed of his old money heritage which is why he has public displays of hostile progressiveism. “Kenjicuck” isn’t just a meme, the nigga is actually a tool.

>>19323377
You’re wrong. All the food scientists you know of stole everything they do from Harold McGee’s 1984 book “On Food and Cooking”. That isn’t an exaggeration. They all used McGee’s book as a blueprint for their science based food and cooking explorations.

Every time I look at cooking books in stores I remember that internet exists and decide not to buy.

>>19323535
I think it’s reasonable if they have dialogue to go along with the recipes. Think classics like Art of French cooking Julia child.

The problem with recipe web pages these days is everyone thinks they’re a cook book author, so you have to scroll through 10 paragraphs to find the damn recipe.

That being said, there’s something very wrong about getting garlicky fingers in a $50 print.

>>19323612
I'd really love to see someone do a video series on Julia's "The Way to Cook". She did a PBS series that was released on VHS that floats around the internet, but it's a little dated. It's basically focused on technique instead of recipes. That book basically taught me the way to cook.

Why does he look like this? There's nothing behind the eyes.

>>19323508
based, white heritage should be erased. if you are hapa you need to end yourself now.

>>19320867
You are wrong.

>>19324981
What color are your nails today, James?

>>19320209
>>19323897

james alt

>>19323897
This is how hapas turn out when the father is white.

>>19321631
>better than takeout pasta
i've never even heard of takeout pasta, the reason there are so many articles about "better than takeout {asian country food}" is because they're the ones that have takeout at all
and there are so many better than fast food videos and articles that include non oriental foods

>>19320209
Cannot stand those fucking painted nails.
What the fuck is up with that.
It triggers a disgust response in me.

His videos are also too long.

>>19324981
Brown, from fingering your shitty asshole.

>>19323524
never heard of it. i'll have to check it out

if you have zero, literally no cooking knowledge whatsoever, they're worth watching just so you can pick up on a few techniques

as far as recipes and shit like that, though, if you're cooking for yourself then do you

Can someone post the chart of foodtubers organized by ineptness/skill and likability

>>19320209
only masao

>>19321224
Reporting in on behalf of my nigger himself, Chef Jean-Pierre.

>>19327067
Forgot pic

>>19320209
>youtube
>books
antiquated
the best recipes come from tiktok

>>19325421
he purposefully does it to ragebait conservatives or trumpanzees or some shit. he lies and says his daughter does it but you just know he sits there in the mirror doing his fairy fingers before every video smirking over all the magatards he's gonna trigger. remember, he ends every video with some tranny slogan and is actively transing his "daughter".

>>19323897
cross bred mutation

raguseasisters...

>>19327283
god I wish this child murdering bastard would drop dead

Who should I listen to?

The cook with years of experience who documents his cooking process on video for you to judge or some anonymous posters online with nothing to back up their posts?

>>19327283

I hate this fucking guy and his stupid facial expression(s).

>>19327080
love this guy

>>19320209
No they’re generally just trying to sell you their own brand of bullshit.

The only person who I feel actually helped me was Frank prizano and even he seemed like a weasley cunt. His approach to cooking sweet potatoes helped me fine tune my understanding of my ovens cooking temp and the same with his crispy egg method for the range. I’ve always appreciated a free wheeling type of cook who builds on your techniques rather than just slamming some super precise recipe down your throat for you to “paint by numbers”

Almost every recipe book and by extension mommy blog recipes are overcomplicated just to make you feel like you're doing something impressive. The best resteraunt dishes could be explained in a few sentences and everything they do is geared towards simplicity and speed.

>>19327080
based beyond belief

>>19320867
>Cooking was never meant to be a precise science for millennial nerds to jerk off to, it's supposed to be fun
Why not both

>>19320568
Jean Pierre and Chef John have actual professional experience

Even that faggot Aho smashes his fridge apparently worked as a cook for 20 years

>>19327415
Why does his face look so inflamed all the time?

>>19328301
SSRIs

>>19326125
Just updated mine

>>19323535
cookbooks these days are really just outlets for graphic designers and food photographers to flex and wank themselves

>>19320209
this guy is a cokehead

>>19328353
Every time this guys shows up in my feed i can't help to appreciate his OG fagness. No trannysissy shit relationship and he has two beautiful white kids with his boyfriend. Just pure and mature gayness.

>>19323897
Tfw you add fish sauce to your daughter's oatmeal

>>19328683
he's okay, but picrel will always be my favorite closeted flamer

>>19328831
He's much less faggy than Weissman or Thatdudecancook guy

>>19328831
No love for New Yorks biggest closet case? This guy has a wife lol

>>19320209
this dude definitely going "Non-binary" soon

>>19327726
Anonymous fags
We've no monetary incentive, it's purely out of interest or lulz

>>19327283
Ugly freak

>>19327283
I would pay actual money to see this skinwalker stomped to death. uncanny valley slant eyed fucking weirdo.

>https://www.eater.com/2019/2/1/18206921/kenji-lopez-alt-maga-hats-wursthall-controversy

Reminder he had to backtrack his libtardism lol.

>>19320209
Ordinary Sausage is a good time and the GOAT of cooking channels. A bit formulaic, but fun overall.

>>19320209
generally no
they're TV presenters, not chefs or cooks.
almost all youtube channels are run by TV/cable companies at this stage, they write scripts and put some handsome ASMR voice faggot on screen and retards lap it up thinking they're legit

>>19320209
Chef John. Everyone else can kick dicks.

>>19329247
I liked his videos but I'm disgusted with seeing this kind of discrimination against mentally disabled people in the current age and will stop watching.

>when your wife has fucked 5 different guys this week

>>19329247
I hate magatards but he has no fucking understanding of his place in things. As a restaurant owner, you DO NOT needlessly control what your guests wear. Dress codes are one thing, but keep it reasonable.

>>19331041
he doesnt want to make the other guests uncomfortable

>>19320867
stop being so gay and appreciate both sides you fucking fag

>>19323508
you two are both gay I think, but maybe only you want to suck him and he doesnt think about you

>>19328353
Love the idea of someone on 4chan trying to pin down what a likeable person is

>>19331138
I feel uncomfortable around restaurant folk who don't understand their place.

>>19331187
hi wieseman

>>19329247
>Reminder he had to backtrack his libtardism lol
Yeah, it was pretty amusing. Basically, the people who actually own the place spanked him and told him to apologize, and like the dutiful cuck he is, he immediately capitulated.