/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>19325773
Old beans. Use a pressure cooker next time. Much easier.

cook em more retard

You have angered Fasolleus, the God of beans.

Srsly, the only beans I soak are chickpeas and green mung beans (both in bicarb-water). I boil them either for 2 hours-ish in a plain pot or 40 minutes in a pressure cooker and they always come out fine.
I do, however, boil them plain then cook them a second time when making X, Y or Z. For example, the mung beans: after soaking, cooking, cooling and storing in the fridge, I cook them a second time to make bubur kacang hijau or perkedel. For chickpeas, I'll boil them with tomato, garlic, olive oil and parsley then add pasta to make Neapolitan pasta with chickpeas. For African honeybeans, I'll boil them with African prawn paste etc. For red mung beans (or any other red bean, 2bh), I'll mash them up to remove their skins and cook with water, vanilla sugar and coconut oil to make flavoured red bean paste. Etc etc etc
My Indian-ish notwife does the same sort of thing when cooking her various curries and dals.

I hate making my own beans... there's always a few annoying mofos in there that take too long to cook and by the time they're finally done, the rest are all split and mushy!!! >:(

>>19325802
>>19325773
Buy fresh beans
Like. Unless you really need the supermarket prices, you can find fresh bean suppliers without much trouble

>>19325773
Are you cooking them with something acidic? That makes them stay hard. Hard water also can do that. And make sure it's actually simmering/boiling, I've put beans on and the heat wasn't quite high enough so they didn't soften enough even after a few hours.

>>19325779
I just bought these at the store like last week. How quickly do dried beans go "hard"?

>>19325780
Why do the directions say cook 10-20 minutes on these chickpeas? I cooked 'em 35 minutes and they're still semi-crunchy.

>>19325797
>2 hours
Wow, jesus. Thanks, I guess I need to ignore package directions kek

>>19325811
Thanks for the info, I'll keep it in mind

>>19325779
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>>19325830
>Why do the directions say cook 10-20 minutes on these chickpeas?
That's probably the directions for a "quick soak". Instead of soaking at room temperature for 8+ hours, you do a quick boil. I had the same problem when I first tried making beans from scratch.

I find chickpeas need even closer to 3 hours of boiling to soften but it probably depends on the size you have.

>>19325830
>Thanks, I guess I need to ignore package directions kek
This begs the question: how fucking long (or short, as it may be) are you boiling them?
I gave 2 hours as a roundabout number. They're usually done sooner than that but they do occasionally take that long. When I cooked them on the hob before switching to an electric pressure cooker, I used to keep a kettle of boiling water at the ready to top off the pot of beans as needed because I boiled them shits at the highest fucking heat I could.

Pintos are the worst. They take forever.

>>19325862
Pretty wasteful, water boils at around 100 degrees Celsius at sea level. Higher heat doesn't really increase the temperature in the pot past a 100, it just makes the water evaporate faster. At a slight simmer, the water in the pot is still a 100 degrees but you save energy and you add less moisture to the air in your house, cooking times stays the same more or less. it's a win win.

>>19325903
That's nice, dear. : )

>>19325773
you didn't cook them long enough, simple as.
i'll usually have them at a low simmer for about an hour and then transfer them to a new pot and add all the seasonings there for a slightly-higher simmer for another hour. they'll be cooked by then

>>19325862
Well the package said 10-20 minutes so I've been doing it for 30, then 40, then 50 minutes on each successive attempt.
I ought to write to my grocery store's corporate office and complain that the storebrand beans have bad directions, if it really is just a case of cooking 2 hours long...

Add a tsp of baking soda in its soaking water next time and use a pressure cooker.

>>19326025
Only do this if you want some creamy beans that turn to mush if even slightly overcooked. Great for some things, like refried beans, not so great for others.

>is there a trick to it
No, a bad bean is a bad bean. Baking soda and other memes are BS. I used to buy beans that would still be crunchy after overnight soaking and 8 hours of simmering. For the amount I spent on energy I could have bought a bunch of nice steaks instead.

>>19325955
Lol you were reading the pressure cooker instructions or something. Mostly likely just retarded and misremembering. No bean distributor suggests a 10 to 20 minute cook time

>>19326051
https://www.harristeeter.com/p/harris-teeter-dry-garbanzo-peas/0007203642994?fulfillment=SHIP
Read the "Boiling, soaking, and cooking method" section on the back of the beans. Annoyingly the photo is upside down so hopefully you can figure out how to read it upside down.

It literally says to boil for a couple minutes, soak for a couple hours, then boil for 20 minutes. This is clearly GROSSLY under-estimating, based on the nasty-ass chickpeas I just ate and promptly threw the rest out.

>>19326065
Nigger I can't read that upside down blurry bullshit. You're retarded and misread. Just accept it.

>>19326079
You absolute fucking retard. It lists two methods. Boiling, and a "boil, soak, boil" method. Nowhere does it say 10-20 minutes.

You are a total fucking retard.

>>19325773
>Why do dried beans come out hard

Because they're dried beans dude. Do you want to get deeper into the science or something?

Save yourself the energy and just get some tender canned beans. Some things aren't worth the trouble

Oh plus they have sticks and stones in them. Canned are clean and purified

Seriously, dried beans are grim and for people who make like $9/hr and need to buy like 20 lbs of beans to survive

>>19326050
This. Yeah you can buy beans at $0.50 per pound dry but then you get to waste several gallons of water soaking and rinsing, then you get to cook them for 8-12 hours, then you get something similar to canned beans at $0.51 per pound. Why does anyone cook their own dry beans anymore?

>>19326089
Stop replying to this moron. He can't read, thought the package said boil for 10 minutes, so he boiled unsoaked beans for 30 minutes and then was confused as to why they weren't done. This may be the dumbest ck post made this month.

>>19326087
>>19326096
Sorry I misremembered, in the boil-soak-boil it says 20-30 minutes not 10-20 minutes. Doesn't change the fact that I boiled, soaked, then boiled for 45 minutes and had hard beans.
Their quoted 20-30 minutes is incorrect.

Explain to me how their instructions are somehow correct. Me misremembering the range doesn't somehow make the range they DID print any more correct.

Canned beans.
I used to be snobby against canned beans, but it just isn't worth the trouble with the soaking and long cook times.

>>19326133
Dude, you're dumb. Just be one of the "bro just buy canned beans, it's impossible to cook dry beans they're for poor people" retards in this thread.

>>19325773
Works on my machine (the stove).

>>19326167
>1 minute of prep and 40 minutes of unattended boiling is too long and too much effort
lol

>>19326096
As I said in >>19325797, I never soak beans and they always come out great. Why?

>>19326173
Wow good job addressing my point dickhead