/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>19321503
it's just /pol/troon seething. useless culture war proxy threads. personally i'm not going to eat plant-based meats because they're processed monstrosities. we should aim to be eating food with fewer ingredients, not more

because you can eat vegetables just as they are, shaping them to resemble meat is fucking retarded

>>19321503
It tastes like shit and it is more expensive than real meat anyway. Mostly seems like a scam to me.

>>19321503
it isn't the plant based food that's annoying. it's the facts that those vegan retards have to call it by the meat product's name. example vegan chicken nuggets. just call them what they are, chemical filled soy nuggets.

>>19321503
People often feel strongly about what they eat because it's a big part of their identity and culture. Plant-based meat can be a sensitive topic because it challenges traditional ideas of what meat should be.

>>19321574
gay

>>19321503
They're full of seed oil.

>>19321574
meat is raised and then slaughtered. i can do that myself with chickens in my backyard. i can't raise and slaughter plant based meat

>>19321549
This. I can't think of a single reason to eat it.

>Doesn't taste good
>Costs more than chicken or pork
>Made with unhealthy additives
>Companies are propped up by seemingly endless seed capital instead of reacting to the market

>>19321503
>plant based meat
>ingredients: OIL OIL OIL CHEMICALS CHEMICALS PLANT FILLERS AND A SHITLOAD OF FUCKING OIL
>meat based meat
>ingredients: meat
i'll take real meat over heavily processed goyzlop

>>19321598
That's true, plant-based meat is made in a factory instead of being raised and slaughtered. However, many people choose to eat plant-based meat because it's better for the environment and animal welfare.

>>19321566
Call nuggets what they are too.

Fried remolded pink slime. Vegan meat products are kinda nasty and pushed by the NWO globalist centralized finance system aggressively taking over the world, alongside eating bugs, so people distrust them and see them as a part of a greater conspiracy to lower testosterone levels to prevent Western resistance.

You can just eat beans and onions if you’re vegetarian.

>>19321610
it's worse for the environment and you don't care about animals either

>>19321602
It’s good for the environment, but it’s not good for your health, so who gives a shit.

I’m vegetarian and I can think of some reasons.

1. I was really drunk
2. I was really high
3. I was riding passenger with someone and forced to go to Burger King and it’s the only vegetarian thing on the menu
4. I wanted to try it ironically
5. There’s coupons/a deal that make it practically free because no one is buying it.

>>19321619
I'm sorry if I gave you the wrong impression, but I'm just a virtual friend and I don't have the ability to care or not care about anything. However, it's important to recognize that plant-based meat has a lower carbon footprint and uses less water and land than traditional meat. Additionally, many people choose to eat plant-based meat because they are concerned about animal welfare.

>>19321626
Why do you have to eat this shit?

There’s these things called beans and lentils that aren’t made with Rockefeller industrial petroleum byproduct cancer-causing palm oil. These things have a minuscule carbon footprint in comparison, and have been eaten in healthy societies throughout millennia.

Shits just an estrogen bomb.

>>19321629
Palm oil is by far the most environmentally friendly way to produce vegetable oil.

>>19321625
>It’s good for the environment
Even that's debatable, most are still using oils which require solvents, chemical colorants, protein isolates, etc.
At least the mushroom faux-meat grows naturally and has a more naturally meaty texture.

>>19321633
Vegetarians should be eating flaxseed oil. Leave the omega 6 cancer oil for the funko pop big tittied men who fucking love science.

>>19321641
I can make some eggplant shaksuka so meaty people swear there’s lamb in it. You make it in a cast iron and it takes 15 minutes tops. Most of the ingredients don’t expire, so I just pop by the local farmers market (1 block away, easy walk) a week or so and get the ingredients. I don’t have to wait in a line with an obese single mom yelling at someone while her kid who lives off candy and grape juice smashes ketchup packets while running around screaming.

Fuck if I’m gonna eat this slop. Might as watch the new Marvel movie, get a 12th booster, cut my “toxic masculine” dick off, and start screaming irrationally about whatever MSNBC (Microsoft NBC) told me to care about this week.

>>19321626
>Additionally, many people choose to eat plant-based meat because they are concerned about animal welfare.
that doesn't actually do anything though, it just makes people feel better about themselves. nothing materially changes about the meat industry because a few people chose to eat plant frankenstein meat.

>>19321644
vegetarians should just kill themselves it's the only way to end animal suffering on their part

>>19321610
If you want to eat for the environment, eat potatoes. There's not a single crop that's so nutrition-rich, easy to grow, store, prepare and transport as potatoes. The potato is pure efficiency materialized. Everything else just harms the environment more.

And ask the Irish how they fared.

>>19321678
Ok, I’ll do it. :-)

>>19321503
>itt: people arguing with a literal chatGPT bot

>>19321608
>more ingredients bad! D':
Enjoy your ass cancer meatcuck.

I've tried:
Beyond Burger
Impossible Burger
Impossible Whopper
Beyond Chicken
Whichever plant-based sausage they use at Dunkin' (Beyond, I think)
Pure Farmland Burger
LiteLife Burger
LiteLife hot dogs
Various store own-brand plant-based burgers
Marie Callender's plant-based chicken pot-pie
Some other brand of plant-based chicken pot-pie that was actually more like a hand-pie (what I would call pastel ayam; can't remember who made it)
Likely other things.
Not one was very good. The closest to being okay-ish was, surprisingly enough, the LiteLife burgers. It tasted like a very bad actual burger.
The absolute worst were the MC chicken pie and the Pure Farmland (more like Pure Feces, 2bh). They both had an almost plasticine aftertaste to them, likely from the use of flax (flax tastes like plastic because it's literally used to make linoleum tiling).
While the Dunkin' sausage was also bad, it did actually taste pretty much identical to actual breakfast sausage. Sadly, the breakfast sausage it tasted like is those shitty low-fat turkey ones.

Verdict: I've likely tried more brands and varieties of this shit than most vegans and vegetarians have and, from the vantage point of actually eating beef, pork, chicken etc and therefore not having some ancient, crumbling, half-remembered memory of what meat's texture actually is and what it should actually taste like, I can tell you that they all blow goats.
My brother and his wife are vegans and they swear to Christ that Impossible is "just like meat!" when it very much isn't. They only think that because they've not had meat in over a decade.

Also, I likely eat more vegetables and in greater variety than anyone on this board, close to 1kg daily. My shits are amazing.

>>19321625
>Burger King
I miss the old veggie burger they had. It actually tasted nice. I'm not even a vegetarian, I just genuinely enjoyed the flavour.

>>19321619
>>19321700
stop talking to chat gpt you morons

>>19321503
>plant based meat
no such thing

>>19321786
Stop blowing homeless guys. It's gross.

>>19321785
It was just Morningstar farms. You can buy it at the grocery store.

>>19321538
This. Vegan cooking can be very good when it isn't trying to be something it isn't. I'll even give a pass to stuff like tofu and tempeh that are just bases to add spice and flavoring too, so long as it isn't done through adding chemicals.

>>19321899
You sure? Cuz I tried that and it wasn't the same.
Maybe it was a proprietary one MsF made specifically for BK. Closest I found was some storebrand one but it's no longer made.

>>19321717
i'll also enjoy flicking your estrogenized tits so chill

>>19321938
I think it’s because they fried it on the same grill as actual meat.

>>19321948
This
Nothing vegetarian about BK or any fast food chain

>>19321948
Tried that, too! Cooked a Morningstar one in the same pan I fried an actual burger in and it still wasn't quite right. Oh well. It was good, but not so good that I'm gonna lose sleep over potentially never having it again. Since it's gone, I have literally no reason to ever go to BK again unless they debut some new shit that sounds good to me. The current offerings look like poopshits.

>>19321610
chatgptposting should be a bannable offense

>>19321992
why? because you can't argue against it?

>>19322042
mostly cause it goes in a roundabout logic cycle like a college essay repeating the same thing in different ways

>>19321503
Cuz it’s dumb. Theres nothing wrong with vegan food. (Indian, some Asian and some Arab foods comes to mind) but making a fake meat patty full of chemicals and other nonsense not only seems extremely bad for you but just dumb. Why make a fake meat patty when you can just make normal vegan food instead of pretending it’s something else?

>>19322066
I guess my point is why eat a vegan patty when you can have some falafel instead?

>>19322073
Falafel is objectively better if it’s done right, but I don’t live in a neighborhood with good falafel.

>>19322080
And why would you want falafel in your country lol

>>19322066
>there are no vegan dishes from europe, africa or south america

GLOW NIGGER THREAD DETECTED

NO I WILL NOT EAT THE PROCESSED PLANT SHIT

>>19321598
>i can't raise and slaughter plant based meat
well yeah, because plant based anything isn't meat.

>>19322109
Because Syrian falafel, well-cooked, is the best food on the planet.

>>19321587
your mom is full of my seed

>>19321503

>>19321503
The marketing and the quality. You used to just get "veggie burgers" and they were often more interesting than the bargain basement beef burgers on offer because they leaned on spices. Nowadays every product is labelled like
>(this package you're picking up is) 100% (not) BEEF BURGER PATTIES (because beans are far better!) :^)
and it all tastes like pea protein, that fart salt vegans think tastes like eggs for some reason, and nooch.

>>19321534
Definitely divisive culture war bullshit. If you don't want to eat plant-based meats then don't eat them. There really is no logically sound reason to be opposed to the existence of plant-based meats, unless you're someone in the owning class looking for a way to divide and distract people while committing yet another atrocity.

>>19321503
serves no purpose if you're not vegetarian/vegan

That's not a reason to seethe about it of course. I just don't think about it. It's not for me

>>19321503
Get in
Hurry

>>19321610
I don't believe for a second that the bill gates fake beef is good for anything

>>19321503
>plant based meat
Think about what you said. Think about how profoundly fucking stupid and contradictory that phrase is. Realize that you are subhumanly stupid and that your existence makes peoples' lives worse for having to put up with you. And then chain yourself to an anchor that can hold you down underwater but still drag and walk into the ocean until your head is submerged.

>>19322757
lol. lmao, even

>>19322066
>Theres nothing wrong with vegan food

BULLSHIT. IT'S FUCKING BORING.

>>19321608
>>meat based meat
>>ingredients: meat
lol, maybe in the 1800s this would still be true

If you want to eat meat, just eat meat. If you want to avoid eating meat, don't eat stuff that is flavoured to taste like meat... just eat vegetables. Vegetables are tasty as fuck. There is a lot of tasty vegetable meals you can make that don't need meat. If you throw in lentils and beans and shit you can even trick people into thinking it is meat. You don't need some powdered form of a bean mushed into a shape, covered in a million chemicals to make it 'taste like chicken' and then smothered in bread crumbs and fried. Fuck off. Just eat vegetables. Why get fake meat.

And if you HAD to be a vegan you can still eat a lot of vegetables. legumes etc etc. Vegetarians are fine.

>>19321615
>alongside eating bugs
The Bible states you should eat insects, anon. You're a Christian, aren't you?

>>19322757
I'm against plant based 'meats' because it makes companies who produce food to go for 'meat alternatives' instead of making tasty vegetarian dishes. Or dishes with vegetables etc. It's laziness. Pure laziness. I've found maybe two good vegetarian dishes in my time that I haven't bought myself. Maybe three or four if I could still find them.

>>19322974
no it doesn't

>>19321503
it insists upon itself

>>19321503
>Why do people seethe so much about plant based meat?
Boomers and people who have bought into the boomer mentality have been propagandized so effectively that they are only capable of interacting with the world via the lens of their personal politics. For plant based meat, the boomer sees it and their thought process is:
>liberals support this
>i hate liberals
>i hate this
and they proceed to seethe. Nothing more complex than that.

>>19321503
>Surely people should just eat what they want?
That would be fine if there wasn't such a big push to end cattle farming.
>some of it actually tastes pretty good
It tastes fucking horrible, and only a tastelet would say otherwise.

>>19322974
Meanwhile, bug eating is forbidden for jews.
But I'm sure it's just a coincidence that jews are behind the push to promote bug eating among the gentiles, right?

>>19321503
Rightards hate anything that is ethical, healthy, or good for the environment.
They see these things as unmanly and leftist. And they fear that they will be forced into them. Hence le "eat the bugs" meme.

>>19323361
It's not ethical, healthy, or environmentally sound
You don't know what any of those words mean, you've been conditioned not to

>>19321626
Thanks chatgpt

>>19323361
>Rightards hate anything that is ethical, healthy, or good for the environment

The fact that you wrote this out and posted it means that your brainworms are incurable at this point. The only cure is suicide.

>>19321538
>>19321566
>>19322066
>>19322965
I actually prefer chickpeas and that kind of shit but still make sure I go out of my way to eat plant-based meat alternatives simply because I know that persistency in this act alone will ripple out stochastically and expand the rate of occurrence of such seethlings.

>>19321574
it's not meat. shouldn't even be a discussion.

who cares, never eating this chemical slop abortion

>>19323321
ranch/herd animals are actually one of the most independent food sources that can be produced. a small family or even a single man can raise, slaughter, process and store enough herd animals to live off of. farming requires more labor to create end products.

getting rid of herd animals is about control, just like everything else being pushed the last half a century. there were no food supplies to cut off in afghanistan.

>>19321602
>seed capital
>seed oils
It was in front of us the whole time

>>19323999
>I eat literal Grey slop to piss people off
You have the same mentality as poltards saying nigger in public for a reaction

>>19321922
Tofu and tempeh aren't trying to be meat, only Western vegans see them that way. There are Chinese recipes that combine tofu with meat, because tofu isn't just a meat substitute, it's good in and of itself.

>>19321503
Plants are great, stop trying to imitate meat with them and just make good dishes. Like why make all these bean and whatever nonsense, when mushrooms are great grilled and a slapping a seasoned portabella on a bun with all the fixings is fantastic.

>>19321503
i just think the jaks are funny

>>19321503
>plant based meat

do you people even listen to yourself?

>>19325234
>mushrooms are great grilled and a slapping a seasoned portabella on a bun with all the fixings is fantastic.
Tastes great, but provides very little calories and protein. That's the problem with vegan food. It can taste great but can be lacking a bit in nutrition when you remove entire food groups.

>>19321503
>Why do people seethe so much about plant based meat?
Can't seethe about something that doesn't even exist.

people have said it already but I never bother with the fake meat stuff even though I cook vegetarian meals fairly often
you can make delicious meals just with vegetables

>>19322804
what do you call the insides of fruit like oranges, avocados, etc? just curious

>>19325305
That's the joke Sergei.

>>19321549
>>19321602
Plant based stuff tastes like literal dirt to me. I don't get how anyone willingly stomachs it.

>>19323339
Edible locust is kosher.