/ck/ - Food & Cooking

couldn’t really care less about the health effects, it just tastes worse than literally everything else
>butter
>lard
>olive or even corn oil
My dad used to make sautéed veggies with canola and it just tastes awful
I guess it’s usable if you’re making a boxed brownie mix

>>19306468
too many omega 6, almost 0 omega 3, highly processed, ni mutrional value, very unnatural, probably a major component in most metabolic diseases which are a foundation to most other diseases in the modern era

>>19306468
/ck/ as a collective isn't. Trying to frame them as against seed oil is disingenuous. Only ketolards from reddit are against seed oil.
Next.

>>19306468
It's fine until it's blacked from cooking

It's unnatural and tastes off

>>19306476
>lard
is this a meme? apparantly its cheaper than butter

>>19306787
It’s what literally everything was cooked in until the 1980s when Big Seed started convincing everyone that animal fat was somehow more harmful than chemically treated oils

>>19306503
retard

>>19306468
I use it to masturbate

>>19306476
>tastes worse
Erm, it has no taste, that's the point. It tastes like whatever you cook in it.

>if i post it again for the millionth time it'll finally stick!!!
any random transvetite is your superior

I use it all the time
>>19306787
Nah it's great
It can make certain dishes shine
For example I love frying my pork schnitzel in lard
Lard in pastries is delicious as is lard in wheat tortillas
I think the lard in my country is a bit different from the rest of the world, it has a definite aroma and taste but people say their lard is very bland and neutral

>>19307479
Btw I've heard hydrogenated lard is shit
The lard I get isn't hydrogenated fortunately

>made fried rice with tallow
>magically tastes far better than the normal fried rice i made

Im convinced.

>>19307608
There's a great Revisionist History episode on how the McDonalds fry went from being legendary to shit tier after swapping from tallow to sneed oil. All because some retard millionaire self-funded his baseless campaign that saturated fat was evil despite it being used for thousands of years and highly refined oils being brand new. Geez I wonder which one could be responsible for the recent rise in heart disease.

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>>19306468
> /ck/
> not 4 schizo third worlders who are hoodwinked by mommy bloggers and shitpost in every thread
>>19306503
So which oils do you recommend with more omega 3's anon?

>>19306468
Seed oils are healthy

>>19307746
What's a healthful use for seed oil? Please say bloomin onions.

We're not, we understand that consuming mass produced deodorized corporate sludge from crops doused with agent orange is actually the greatest form of resisting capitalism

>>19308043

>1 pint of Crisco sneed oil: $3.24
>1 pound of Crisco sneed shortening: $4.69
>1 pound of unsalted butter: $3.99
>1 pound of lard: $2.69
>1 pound of beef tallow: $5.00
Most of these are prices I just grabbed from the Walmart and Target websites. What is even the point of using sneed oil? You're paying essentially the same amount of money for something that tastes shittier even if you don't care about the health effects.

Why do you retards call it sneed oil

>>19307443
It might not be as flavorful as other oils but it's not completely flavorless either. I think soybean oil smells and tastes funny. Others aren't as bad. It's still better with something that has more flavor though.

>>19308117
48 oz of vegetable oil is the same price as 16 oz of butter from what I see. It being cheaper is the reason why it's so prevalent, if it was actually the same price then food manufacturers wouldn't be using a worse tasting ingredient.

>>19307443
put some on your tongue

>>19307608
where do you buy tallow?

Why do they call it vegetable oil instead of soybean oil which it really is? Are they trying to hide something from us? Suspicious, if you ask me.

>>19308940
Vegetable = health has been a thing in marketing for a long time. Shortening ads did the same thing. And then we later found out it killed a lot of people.

>>19308959
So digestible.

>>19308623
>>19308641
>in this episode the autistic faggots on /ck/ pretend to not know what a neutral flavored cooking oil is

>>19309061
I know what a neutral oil is. Just because that's the name for it doesn't mean it's 100% devoid of flavor and aroma.

>>19309087
Yeah that's my bad for thinking the autistic neckfats on here would understand when I called it flavorless that it doesn't literally have no taste if you guzzle it straight from the bottle, but that everyone who can cook knows when you want to cook something without impacting its flavor you use a neutral oil. I take full responsibility for thinking there was some basic agreed upon culinary knowledge on the food and cooking board, instead of holding your hand through the conversation and treating you like a retarded toddler and explaining every little detail to you like you so clearly require. Totally my bad dude, can't believe I fucked up so badly.

>>19309150
Imagine the smell.

>>19309150
>when you want to cook something without impacting its flavor
So what's the point of cooking then? Just eat some boiled unseasoned veggies lol

>>19309150
Are you okay?

>>19306468
Because /ck/ is schizophrenic

It tastes like shit. It's fine for deep frying or using as a generic oil (like for stir-fry dishes...nobody uses olive oil for that for example) but for most culinary uses it sucks.

>>19306556
>Only ketolards from reddit are against seed oil.
that's bullshit, and so is the rest of your midwit, faggy post.
Here's the Skinny:
https://youtu.be/7kGnfXXIKZM?t=16 (embed)
https://youtu.be/a_r8mIAiL00 (embed)
https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM (embed)
Cholesterol is GOOD for you to eat, It does NOT cause blood serum cholesterol. Most of that is caused by the damage that sugars cause. That's not to say that sugars are actual poison--that's bullshit, but Fructose has a "Place and time" evolutionary use for humans, and of course, are naturally seasonal.
Everyone has a different body, but the medical establishment treats them all the same--(unless it directly effects their specialty like transplants and the like.)
Both the Medical and Dietary science industries have been co-opted by commercial interests and lobbyists for over a hundred years.
You'll have to figure out what works best for you and your specific genotype. But the info is out there, good scientific data--just IGNORE fad diets and "Official" medical and dietary advice.
Food has been medicine since Hippocrates.
Some will do just fine with Opie's peanut oil; Some will swell up like a beach ball.

>>19306503
>highly processed

buzzword

>>19306468
"""vegetable"""

>>19309276
Sure anon...
Just sit back and watch MOAR TV, faggot.
https://youtu.be/Cfk2IXlZdbI

>>19306468
At least use sunflower oil

Funny how the shills just dissapate as soon as they are challenged with real info.
Dumbshits.
Where do they think this is?

>>19306468

Vegetable oil has a bitter flavor however it's low cost and can be produced quickly.

Corn oil and Canola are both more costly and have a stronger taste than soybean.

Beef tallow is the best flavor however is also expensive and high in demand, which is why it's difficult to find. You can make your own from beef fat trimmings.

Remember to moderate your diet, it's okay to skip a day once a week and fast. (only drink water no food)

>>19307644
>despite it being used for thousands of years
How long were we leeching people you stupid fucker? How long were we smoking? How long were we not washing our goddamn hands before digging around in an open wound? Shut your stupid fucking mouth until you're capable of the basic goddamn logical processes fucking schoolchildren learn before they're teenagers. Fucking embarrassment.

I cook and fry everything in lard, pure lard
Tastes great, you're all missing out
No one get's outta here alive
enjoy the little things

>>19309794
>How long were we leeching people you stupid fucker?
>He doesn't know they are STILL using leeches today...
Nobody tell him just how fucking retarded he is--I wanna see him dig a DEEPER HOLE.

>>19309794
>Thinks he "LERNED Sumfing" in school...
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

>>19306787
It's a meme if you don't want what you are eating to smell like bacon. I personally do not but I know certain types think that is a positive.

>>19309273
Imaging watching youtube videos and thinking it makes you informed.

>>19310138
Imagine thinking that ingesting sneed oil is healthier than ingesting what's already part of your body

>>19306503
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>>19309150

To be completely honest, fuck all you retards in general, I almost never come on this board because you are all pretentious neckbeard mongoloids, and Im actually cringing hard as fuck right now at all of you. It's fucking cooking oil you inbred mouthbreeders, calm down.
>>19306468
>this is the true based and redpilled take on vegetable oil and alternatives
vegetable oil is fucking fantastic in the sense that it can be used as an alternative in many ways to other oils in recipes without SERIOUSLY ruining a dish, and on top of that, it is the cheaper than most other things, and furthermore, more readily available. That being said, being the cheapest option, using olive oil, butter, or lard might improve the taste of what you're cooking circumstantially, meaning, most things, you could probably use them interchangeably and have good food, however, for some things, using the proper oil/lard/specific shortening could change something from a good dish to an amazing one, >example: french fries with vegetable oil are still great, but french fries with duck fat are amazing
point is, if you can afford fancy oils and shortenings, it might make a difference, but if you're a skilled cook, you can use vegetable oil for most things and still produce amazing food

>>19311579

Get a load of this big cooking oil cuck, everyone! What an absolute retard we've got on our hands here, haha.

>>19311579
Noone itt is questioning that adding fat to a dish makes it taste better. Will seed oils improve your overall health?

>>19311579
sneed

>>19306468
Only chuds are scared of vegetable oil, we like it here.

>>19311608
a better question is does it really fucking matter? Is your lifestyle so unhealthy you need to worry about little things like that anon, or is it just autistic compulsion?

Maybe instead of worrying so much about muh seed oils you should try getting off your computer and going on a jog you fat fuck

>>19311579
>Procter and Gamble have deposited $.02 into your account

>>19311579
shillpalooza up in this bitch, how much did big sneed payed you for this marvellous piece of shite you just wrote?

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>>19313075
>blatantly admitting you're shitty cooks

>>19313087
if you don't use shitty ultra-processed oils that didn't exist 150 years ago, you're a shitty cook

>>19313172
woopsie, forgot my >

my uncle bought me a cast-iron wok, seasoned with vegetable oil. is wrong? or what sneed oil should I use

>>19309284
>graph was always starting to skyrocket BEFORE seed oils were introduced

>>19313253
Seasoning is just polymerizing shit to protect the metal from rust and improve the non-stick capabilities. The oil/fat you use is irrelevant.

>>19313172
>if you think you need super fancy oils or shortenings your a retard because vegetable oil works just as fine in most cases

didn't think I needed to spell it out for you, but I guess I already knew you were a complete retard so that was wrong of me to assume.

I cook exlusively with butter, ghee or tallow and I am never going back to sneed oils.

>>19306468
They don't have any taste and have way too many harmful effects to name. They are created in a highly industrialized process and did not exist prior to 150 years ago. These oils do not exist in nature and there is no way we could've evolved eating something that didn't exist. It's not like they're identical to natural fats either, their n-6 ratios are usually way higher and even the healthier tropical oils have their own issues. They are also completely devoid of nutrients unlike lard/tallow which have essential vitamins.

There's just no reason to eat them.

>>19311579
Sharlom

>>19313439
>beef tallow, suet, olive oils are now "fancy" because they've been used for thousands of years
so not only are you proud low-grade goyslop consoomer, you're poor as well which is why you buy said goyslop oils for $2/gallon. it's all starting to make sense

I love vegetable (and corn) oil for frying, but I know that its basically poison so I've gone back to animal fats when I can, or less vile oils like peanut.

>>19311579
>vegetable oil is fucking fantastic
Hey can I get paid per post

>>19308959
>1960's sneed oil shills be like "it makes your poop better and more pleasureable, ketolards"

What's exactly is vegetable oil?
I'm not from the US

>>19307057
That's a lot of effort to convince us you're a freak

>>19310138
Imagine thinking ALL youtube videos are the same caliber if info.
I've posted PLENTY of papers here as well, but I get that you can't read past a 9th grade level-- It's Ok anon. There will be plenty of good jobs for you.
People will always need to have their septic tanks cleaned out.

>>19315680
any "edible" oil from plants is vegetable oil.
however for something like olive oil or avocado oil, etc. you won't see it labeled as that, because they're desirable so they get labeled as what they are. the blanket term "vegetable oil" is used for oils that people typically don't seek out, like s oybean oil, corn oil, etc.

>>19315701
The word Soy is not filtered here, anon.
>Speaks volumes

>>19315712
oh didn't know that

>speaks volumes
like what? more than 1 board changes the word

I thought this image was a meme and vegetable oil couldn't possibly be this bad but then I went on YouTube and watched a How It's Made video on canola oil and this is literally how it's made

>>19315720
it is a meme but it's also true. dunno why it would be so hard to believe anyway

>>19315719
I think most do.
You can't do it here for obvious reasons.
Don't you find it strange that it's filtered,(among other expressions,) on a Freeze peach Chan??
I know WHY..I just haven't agreed for over 8 years.
SENPAI

>>19315720
Most all of the ORGANIC may-mays here are well researched and true.
That said--there are a LOT of shill dis-info memes and just plain schizo shit.
It's all for fun...
(and control)

>>19315760
Meds.

Like clockwork...
You KNOW they know who's poasting, right? RIGHT?

>>19315701
Thanks anon.
Sunflower oil the most common oil here along with EVO. Soy oil exist here too, it's very cheap but it's not good.

>>19315760
I agree desu senpai but honestly i think it is just cuz it's a nip

>>19315834
Nice.
T BH
F AM
meh...Gookmoot isn't really running the show.

>>19308643
Grocery stores should have it, not that hard to make yourself if you do some barbecuing

>>19308550
sneed is a stupid meme from /tv/ that apparently spread to other boards

t. /tv/ denizen

>>19316700
go back

>>19316746
I only come here once every few months or so. Please bear with me for tonight.

>>19309273
>YouTube science
I see uncountable hordes of you """people""" on every thrice damned corner of the Internet. Nuclear armageddon cannot come soon enough.

>>19315700
Immediately falls back to ad hominem without producing any credible argument. Many such cases.

>>19306468
this place always leans to the latest fad, if a random magazine in zimbabwe says that eating beans produces climate change then in a matter of days we are full of anti-bean threads.

>>19316832
then go back to the undamned corners

What's the consensus on ghee?

>>19316858
consensus: based

>>19306503
Based

This guy shows many studies that seed oils aren't inflammatory. And also that saturated fats still cause heart problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xTaAHSFHUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBFe1QattAU
What are the counterarguments to this?

isn't it funny how a bottle of olive oil has olives on the label and peanut oil has mr. peanut, but then you have """vegetable""" oil with a picture of salad on the label like it's made out of lettuce somehow despite being 100% soybean?

>>19315720
That only applies to some (particularly shitty) feedstocks, like soybean or canola. They contain high amounts of various proteins, sugars, resins etc.
There are vegetable oils produced by purely mechanical separation, with no solvent wash.
Sunflower oil is commonly filtered via centrifuge/osmotic separation; the result is usually labeled as "cold press/unrefined". A mechanically-extracted oil made from one of the "High Oleic" sunflower strains is reasonably healthy.

I'm not, it's the best shit to fry tofu with
sesame oil a shit

>>19316902
the counter argument is that you shouldn't consume franken"foods" that didn't exist until about a century ago and was originally invented to replace whale blubber as machine lubricant.

Animal fats are not bad for you and they've been the focus of the human diet forever for a reason.

>>19306787
It's amazing. I pretty much never use seed oils now that I understand butter and lard cooking.

>>19316902
>poses wearing hospital scrubs
>must be an authority on health

>>19316992
>isn't it funny how a bottle of olive oil has olives on the label and peanut oil has mr. peanut, but then you have """vegetable""" oil with a picture of salad on the label like it's made out of lettuce somehow despite being 100% soybean?

Carrots and lettuce have carotene. Every fat increases the absorption of carotene, a lot.

>>19306787
>is this a meme?
fuck i hate you so much

>>19306468
>Why is /ck/ against vegetable oil?
I don't think /ck/ has as much a beef against soybean oil as people in certain other forums do. Personally, I prefer using either crisco (which may or may not include soybean oil), bacon grease, or tallow when frying stuff. I was never a huge oil fan, regardless of what it is made out of.

>>19309794
Not for a long time. Most people didn't have access to leeches or doctors, there is a over representation of scholars/rich peoplein history because that's who could record their thoughts. Most people didn't have access to tobacco, at least alcohol has calories and is made from food if you have an excess, tobacco is pure luxury.
But literally everyone had to eat.

>>19318908
Carotine is worthless.

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>>19317515

i'm sorry bros but hog dietary input translates very directly to adipose tissue makeup because there's no ruminant or hind-gut fermentation of their food. they're fed high pufa trash, they become high pufa trash. if you live in a cold area of the US or Europe and they're fed well they're still going to be less saturated as an environmental adaptation. unless they're heritage pigs fed natural diets of acorn/etc and not wonderbread plastic bag and mycotoxin bread + soy oil feed you are just consuming hog-scented canola. the lipid profile is the same.

you can avoid by using tallow or butter coconut oil. even palm kernel oil is preferred to modern american lard.

>>19309794
You are so fucking stupid lmao. Way to ignore the other half of my logic. Heart disease rate has only gone up since demonising saturated fat. Infections went down after medics started washing their hands etc. I'd love to know what kind of loser explodes with such rage and self-assurance at a very simple statement.

>>19306468
Why do people say it's unhealthy? It's made of vegetables, you're basically eating a salad

>>19306468
Mostly the olive oil jews and their marketeers.

>>19308940
Because different areas use different plants to juice for oil depending on availability: rapeseed, sunflower, soybean, corn, palm fruit etc.

>>19311579
Yeah that's great and all but you didn't answer my question: what is a healthful use for seed oil? People keep saying they are healthy but everything made with them is terrible for you! It's all fried carnival and take out foods.

>>19306468
It's not about where oil comes from, it's about how processed it is. No resolution will ever be reached on the topic while people continue to use terms like "seed" or "vegetable" oil instead of what it really is, "hydrogenated" oil.

>>19319811
I was about to buy this cube of lard from Costco. You got a source for this hot take?

>>19320584
But every bottle labeled Vegetable Oil says on the back, Ingredients: soybean oil.

>>19320868
You are a very confused person

>>19316902
what is this nigga doin!!!!!

>>19320894
>BHT added to protect flavor
The golem reveals itself.

>>19320894
it's not a hot take. cattle will do some manner of conversion from the food they eat, pigs will just pass the fats along as they are. their bodyfat will be the form that they're fed

humans are similar

probably some bro-science grifter on yootoob told them it was bad for god knows what reason.

>>19306468
Have you seen how it's made?
https://youtu.be/Cfk2IXlZdbI

>>19320894
yes, i wouldn't buy it or choose to consume it when tallow, butter,coconut oil exist. if you want low-coconut flavor for frying refined coconut is neutral and there's ghee which is just clarified butter but overcooked by indians.

>>19322340
very good anon

>>19306468
most of it causes cancer or overdoses you on estrogen