/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>19303569
NAFO troons raped my dog.

Read the ingredient list dumbass. By law it has to list everything. Food safety and transparency is taken seriously.

>>19303569
if you're that paranoid, find local honey
your local nursery should be able to point you to some beekeepers who will sell you honey too

>>19303581
>Read the ingredient list dumbass.
I know it says it's raw honey. The reason I'm asking this is my friend said that most honey on amazon is cheap because it's cut with HFCS and companies lie about it. Was he wrong?

Any truth to this or is it just schizo talk?

>>19303588
Has your friend ever not been a dipshit?

>>19303601
Can you just give me a straight answer please?

>>19303588

Do you think a company can outsmart the FDA aka federal government and just "cut" did products with things and not be found out? The feds don't fuck around whether it's the IRS, FCC or the Parks Service.

If it's cheap honey, it's probably just very low quality. Or it can be cut with lesser quality honey in other countries. I.e. 49% of an American honey is Chinese produced so they are able to say it's US just because the majority is. But producers aren't sneaking HFCS or whatever else into stuff and not listing it on the label.

>>19303569
Only a retard would take an individual, anonymous online review at face value, but when there's over a thousand reviews for a product and it's almost entirely positive you can be pretty fucking confident that you're not going to spend $60 on a jug of HFCS. Also, what kind of a retard buys a gallon of honey off Amazon in the first place? And if you are buying from Amazon they have an amazing return policy if you taste your "honey" and realize it's fake. Oh wait... you aren't sure you'd be able to tell the difference, are you? Then why the fuck does it matter? Just keep shopping at Walmart and stop trying to spend money on nicer things you aren't capable of appreciating.

>>19303613
>Also, what kind of a retard buys a gallon of honey off Amazon in the first place?
someone who wants to make mead

>>19303609
>can outsmart the FDA
Yes, the FDA doesn't check shit. Plus they constantly aggregate ingredients like "natural flavorings". What is in the "flavorings"? Who fucking knows.

>>19303616
Go to your local brew shop and you can pay a third of the price for brewing honey. It will be local and legit, but just not necessarily as clean and pretty as you'd want to eat with your breakfast or whatever (what do people even eat honey with anymore?). Spending $60 on Amazon for a gallon of mystery honey to homebrew some fucking mead is retarded.
YWNBAV

>>19303609
>>19303613
Blue pilled individuals made these posts holy shit

>>19303607
I'll take that as a no. Why are you listening to your retard friend?

>>19303627
>>19303629
>one post saying everything is fine
>another post saying everything isn't fine

There's some extreme jewry going on here. Someone is lying

>>19303629
>Blue pilled
Jesus christ. I just realized it's summer. I've been thinking this place has been pretty bad lately, but it's been so long since I've thought about kids' schedules it didn't even occur to me that's what's happening.

>>19303569
Just don't buy honey on Amazon like a retard. Go to the market and buy real honey. Guarantee the shit in that tub is just high fructose corn syrup.

>>19303588
He's probably right. Amazon sellers dont give a shit about FDA regulations. Worst case they just pack up shop which is completely online anyway. I sold on Amazon heaps and never paid taxes or did any of the legal stuff. Most sellers aren't wholly legit.
Don't reply on the govenrment to do everything for you. Go to a local seller and buy it for yourself after you can see it's pure. That Amazon shit will mollases.

Tell me the truth, who is jewing who here. Are the contrarian posts from small farmers who are seething about amazon or are they truly just uninformed midwits?

>>19303638
>Did you just say bluepilled? You must be a child, not the real respectful 4chan population like me. Trans rights BTW!!!
Lmao your worship of government is fucking cringe, the FDA is not infallible and if anything it is worse at its job than a contracted private company would be since public institutions are always worse at every service they provide. The government seems serious because they take themselves more seriously than they do you, the tax dodger is more morally repugnant than the rapist if we are to go by laws.

>>19303661

>>19303627
>ask simple question
>get contrived long contrarian answer with no real help

Yea so this is how I know not to listen to you

>>19303665
Ywnbaw

>>19303666
>go to local brew shop and buy brewing honey
>CONTRIVED LONG CONTRARIAN ANSWER WITH NO REAL HEP!
What the fuck is wrong with you people? That was the most straight forward suggestion in the entire fucking thread.

>>19303668
>MOM! I DID THE MEME!

>>19303617
Not corn syrup

>>19303569
>is it ACTUALLY honey
Why would you care? There is no real difference between sugar syrup made by bee or sugar syrup made by machinery.

>>19303791
Honey is anti-bacterial and has some nutrients to help digest.

>>19303825
>anti-bacterial
Due to high sugar content

>some nutrients to help digest
Like what? In what amounts in a serving? How stable are they?

>>19303627
>what do people even eat honey with anymore?
i like it with yogurt

>>19303834
>Due to high sugar content
it forms hydrogen peroxide

https://www.insider.com/fake-honey-problems-how-it-works-2020-9

https://www.vice.com/en/article/884kq4/your-fancy-honey-might-not-actually-be-honey

I can't find it but there's a study showing a lot of "raw" honey in supermarkets is pasteurized or adulterated as well. I'd assume that's especially true for any bought on fucking amazon.

>>19303825
>nutrients
Most are filtered out to clarify the final product. Buy local if you want anything beneficial.

>>19303911
>raw" honey in supermarkets is pasteurized or adulterated as well.
not in America but its a real problem in Australia

>>19303911
>Buy local if you want anything beneficial.
problem with that is you can't be sure what the bees were feeding on and some thing can be toxic

Does anyone else think local honey is a meme? How do I know these dudes at the farmer's market didn't just buy up honey from the grocery store, rip off the label, and sell it off as "local"? How do these guys have enough honey to apparently supply the thousands of people that shop their stands?

Like with grocers you can usually tell because the fruit/vegetable quality is pretty distinct from what you'd get at a typical grocery store, but honey is just always in those bear bottles. I sure af can't taste a difference.

>>19303935
well if you're buying orange blossom honey in Alberta Canada it might not be legit

>>19303926
Or it can just taste list shit. My workplace has some little beehives that they collect honey from to sell back to employees, and it tastes like unflavored corn syrup.

>>19303935
Ask questions. How many hives do they have? Where are they located? What flowers do they use (and if they say they don't plant any, which is complete bullshit, ask what the local flowers are)? Where do they source their bees from?

Beehives also produce a fuckton of honey. One colony will do at least 50 pounds surplus, and really healthy ones will do over 100 pounds.

You're not wrong about there being phonies (it's a big deal in beekeeping societies). They're more common in smaller farmer's markets because the bigger ones usually have vendors that all know each other and know what everyone's about, so there's no bulllshitting. If you're going to a pretty well established market, the honey is probably legit. They produce way more than they sell, they usually give a lot of the surplus away or just keep it. If you're in a smaller town or the market's kinda shady, I would def ask questions and check because there's a chance it's fake.

>>19303955
i had some local wild flour honey and tasted like someone sprayed axe body spray in corn syrup

>>19303935
>How do I know these dudes at the farmer's market didn't just buy up honey from the grocery store, rip off the label, and sell it off as "local"?
Some of them absolutely do. Our local "farm stand" sells relabeled honey from at least a few hundred miles away, they're cagey about exactly where, I doubt they even know. We keep buying it because it's better than supermarket honey but yeah, don't trust anyone who won't show you their beehives. By comparison, the couple selling eggs at our farmers market were more than happy to invite us back to their house/farm to see their chicken coops. (Not free range, too many foxes in the area, but I've seen the birds first-hand, so I KNOW it's not repackaged supermarket eggs from a battery farm.) Some other folks at the farmers market are just actors in overalls.

FWIW Costco seems to take labeling somewhat seriously and last year issued refunds for "local" honey that turned out to not be actually local:
https://www.eatthis.com/news-costco-alerting-members-about-products/

>>19303613
It's extremely common knowledge that Amazon reviews are often fake, and products on Amazon are often low quality and not what's advertised.

>>19303893
The hydrogen is merely a backup if the water concentration gets too high.

>>19303613
>when there's over a thousand reviews for a product and it's almost entirely positive you can be pretty fucking confident
Imagine being this naïve. Amazon is full of fake 5 star reviews

>>19303627
>local brew shop
Id have an easier time finding a farmers market.

>>19303569
I buy Amish honey from Rural King.

>>19303977
I'm only sus because the dude at my market legit sells his honey in the same plastic bear bottles that every other company does. Like bruh. Maybe it's just cheap and you bought it but it looks 100% like the supermarket stuff.

I'll ask to see their hives n shit though, because I do want some local honey but these guys seem shady as hell, thanks for the tip

>>19304007
>buying honey in plastic bottles
found the retard

>>19303583
local beekeepers will scam you as well
>>19303588
>I know it says it's raw honey. The reason I'm asking this is my friend said that most honey on amazon is cheap because it's cut with HFCS and companies lie about it. Was he wrong?
big companies don't lie. you're only at risk of getting scammed by small companies, chinese companies, and local sellers

>>19304007
Don't do it in a way that seems critical/doubtful. Some dudes are paranoid/prepper types and protect the homestead. If you seem legit interested in their product and ask if they do tours, they might oblige.

But even before that, ask yourself the question: are they even CLAIMING that it's local honey? Because that's really the issue. Most farmers markets make no guarantee about the origin of products, they're just deals with the town chamber of commerce, it's up to individual vendors to make things "local". Like, our market has a food truck selling reheated Sysco slop but the guy has a dirty flannel shirt and a John Deere hat so people assume he's a "farmer". And most customers don't even care, frankly. They're paying a premium to imagine that they're supporting "local organic sustainable, fair-trade artisanal carbon-neutral eco-friendly socially-responsible" agriculture to offset their subconscious guilt about living in an urban hellscape and voting to advance this country toward horrific dystopia.

>>19303569
If you can't tell the difference by taste, then why do you care if it's real or not? Develop a functioning palate that isn't impaired by junk food and alcohol like a retard and then this won't be a problem because you can tell what's real or not simply by tasting it. Fucking low class piece of shit.

>>19304004
>amish don't have access to sugar and corn syrup
You sir are one gullible faggot.

>>19304042
>corn syrup crystallizes
lmao fuck you are stupid

>>19304046
>I wonder what happens when sugar is mixed in with corn syrup
Keep digging yourself deeper gullible faggot.

>>19304035
>If you can't tell the difference by taste, then why do you care if it's real or not?
Because some people want to eat food that's not toxic to their body, regardless of how it tastes.

>>19304072
honey isn't magically healthier than regular sugar, fat fuck

>>19304073
Fucking lmao

>>19304055
>>19304073
this is the same dumb faggot lmao

>>19304083
Nice argument that you didn't make because you're still a gullible faggot.

>>19304088
>can't differentiate due to lack of experience with actual honey and the palate of a retarded child
it's extremely obvious when it's not genuine if you've ever been around real honey. your pathetic cope is noted.

>wow, a thread about honey, i cant wait to go in and see what people are saying about thi-

>anger
>anger
>seethe
>pure fucking rage
>arguing about politics
>YWNBAW
>anger
>anger
>anger
genuinely whats wrong with this board? why does it seem like everyone walks into every conversation ready to be mad about something, or seems some kinda double meaning in everything they read
its like trying to speak to a room of preteen girls, not a board of presumably adults

>>19304107
nta, but honey is extremely varied, it can vary between plants, environments and even two different bee colonies
and artificial flavorants have gotten more and more advanced
you can, and people absolutely have, made fake honey, or cut honey with sugar syrup/corn syrup and managed to make it taste like actual honey

>>19304107
It should be if you have a functional palate but you apparently don't since you didn't know the Amish sell fake honey all the time and you buy it like gullible faggot.

>>19303569
Who buys food products on amazon?

>>19303569
>How do we know it's not cut with sugar or any HFCS.
There are various tests you can do at home to check any honey you're suspicious about, the big one being that fake honey won't crystallize. But generally, if you eat a lot of honey and you're serious about purity then you should be buying directly from beekeepers instead of from third party sites like Amazon.

There are a huge amount of beekeepers selling their honey online and you can find plenty of reviews of the bigger ones on various sites. Amateur mead brewing forums are great places for honey reviews, since these guys go through a ton of honey and will also be able to tell very quickly if their mead isn't turning out right because of fake honey.

>>19303569
Lol scamazon will sell radioactive baby toys if they can get away with it. Just go to the local beefags and buy a jug.

>>19304137
Prolonged internet use permanently damages emotional regulation in humans.

>>19304007
farmer's markets are largely scams. they buy from the same middlemen that grocery store merchandisers buy from and then just mark up the produce.

the tampa bay times did a number of investigative reports back in 2014 about farmer's markets in FL, can only imagine it's the same across the country (along with going after the "farm-to-table" restaurant label).

>>19304018
>big companies don't lie
Maybe not about honey, but they sure do about everything else. Lawsuit scandals are normal state.

>>19304018
>big companies don't lie. you're only at risk of getting scammed by small companies, chinese companies, and local sellers
Retard detected. Big companies will gladly sell you chinks sugar water and play dumb about it if they ever get caught. That's where most fake honey is sold. Same goes for olive oil.

The best way to get real genuine honey is to get to know your local bee keepers/farmers. It's always good to have a personal relationship with the people who feed you. Also it helps to know the signs of fake honey: if it's watery, dissolves immediately in warm water, or doesn't crystalize after sitting in your cupboard for a few months, it's fake.

>>19304243
I find this to be true in cities but not true outside of cities. Every farmer's market in the city I've ever been to has been a big scam, not only with prices, but with the things they sell (hurrrr buy my little shoebox sized package of micro-greens for $20). But usually when I visit them in rural areas they have cheap local produce.

As far as meat goes, it's best to buy directly from a farm that produces it and packages it themselves. Both in terms of knowing what you're getting, and price. I make an hour trip to a local farm for my beef. I end up paying the same price for organic grass-fed beef as I would pay for normal goyslop anti-biotic, hormone filled, grain fed beef at the grocery store. Meanwhile that same grocery store sells non-organic grass-fed beef for twice what I pay.

My uncle is a beekeeper as a hobby so I get free honey.

There used to be this entire documentary series on Netflix about how the honey industry is full of bullshit products thanks to China. They cut their honey with rice syrup to up their yields, so often that some American bureau had to develop brand new technologies just to test honey for adulteration. Whenever they slap an "adulterated honey" charge on a company and ban them from importation, the ching chongs set up a shell company in southeast Asia to act as a middleman for sending their adulterated honey into the states. This was back in 2016 so I have no clue if that docu's still up, or possibly still there but everyone's been recast as a black

>>19304035
Some just don't want to pay to be lied to

>>19303911
>fake honey
literally not a problem unless you're buying industrial quantities from sources in shitholes like China, India, Vietnam, Ukraine (basically all the places anyone with a brain knows is full of scammers selling counterfeit shit).

>>19303569
1. Go the store
2. Find honey
3. ???
4. Fuck Amazon

>>19303569
Imagine buying honey on Amazon and at $63. You deserve being ripped off.

>>19304018
>big companies don't lie

The UK got caught in that over 40% of all honey in the country wasn't honey at all, though this has not stopped them from claiming their govt and corporations never lie to them about 'ingredients'.

>>19304137
Politics fags broke out of their containment during the 2016 election and Tumblr nuked all their adult content like two years later. We are getting the dredges of the internet here now.

>>19305497
yeah we were the cream of the crop before then

>>19303613
>but when there's over a thousand reviews for a product and it's almost entirely positive you ca
lol
lmao
You're very smart man, my friend. I got the DEAL of a lifetime for you

>>19303791
>Honey NEVER goes bad
>LOL, it's just as good as honey goys... I mean guys.

>>19304018
>big companies don't lie
>everyone's trying to scam me REEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME HUGE CORPORATION
seriously if you're this schizophrenic maybe you should move to a nice place in the country and keep bees so you can relax and enjoy your own honey

>>19303791
the 0.5% makes a difference in flavour and aroma. think about it for one second. if a glass of water for example is 0.5% salt, you will be able to taste the difference between that and 0% salt.

>>19305550
>muh aroma
literally who cares nerd

>>19303588
Also often cut with a weird Indian pseudo honey, should look it up.

>>19303569
if you can't tell, that says a lot about honey

nutritionally, it's as worthless as any other added sugar

get some dates. i can put an article on my blog if you want to use them as placebos ;)

>>19305542
>seriously if you're this schizophrenic maybe you should move to a nice place in the country and keep bees so you can relax and enjoy your own honey
This is what I did and now I'm a farmer and post on /ck/ roasting the urbanoids for their trash produce all the time. feels good man

I find transparent liquid honey pretty weird because most of my life I've been eating honey that's already crystallised.

>>19303627
I don't drive though
And since when do brew shops sell honey anyways

>>19303569
Find the closest apiary/bee keeper to where you live that you can. There's health benefits to eating honey that comes from the same place you're exposed to the pollen if you have any kind of allergies or problems with that stuff.
If you find a local guy or chick who's selling the stuff, you can be certain that while they could be spiking it with other additives, they're absolutely less likely to be doing it than some Chinese bullshit amazon seller.
Plus at the risk of sounding like a hippy fuck, we really, REALLY need bees to not disappear, so try to support some local bees so things don't go to shit.

>>19307344
>don't drive
You have to be 18 to post here.
>since when do brew shops sell honey anyways
Since literally forever. Even if you aren’t making mead, honey is often added to cider, and is a pretty fucking common adjunct in a lot of different styles of beer.

I cringe every time I see someone larping as a poor fag and trying to make liquor out of a gallon jug of good value fruit punch with baking yeast and a fucking balloon over the top of the plastic bottle. A proper airlock costs 50 cents, and a bottle of Star San is like $10 and will last you a year. If you’re going to do it at least take the most low effort, low investment steps to make sure your ghetto toilet hooch isn’t fucking rancid. All this shit has been easily accessible for longer than more people here have even been alive.

>>19303675
>normal person: haha I don't believe that tranny nonsense
>(you): seethes

>>19305585
it provides a unique taste, and if you get local honey it protects against seasonal allergies

>>19309133
pure placebo, mom

>>19303588
Food vendors do shady shit like this, yes. There is a notorious problem with companies selling "Olive Oil" that is literally just some olive oil cut with cheap shit like rapeseed or sunflower oil. Anyone telling you that you're being paranoid is an idiot. Find a local vendor like some other anons have mentioned.

>>19303834
lose weight

>>19303569
if its from china, chances are its cut with water or some sugar/water mix.

its from countries like australia or the philipines then its probably chinese honey cut with water or some sugar/water mix and then repackaged in those countries to get around everyone knowing china constantly fucks around.

just buy local honey. export honey being fucked with is super common, and theres lots of way to get around the regulations designed to prevent fucking with it. From deceptive labeling, repackaging in other countries, to straight up lying. These are all common problems, so much to the point that some countries are basically banned from exporting honey to certain other countries. Honey is an expensive product that cant be fully industrialized, so the way around that is to cheat. Cheap honey is almost always fucked with in some way.

>>19303791
kill yourself.

>>19303955
>>19303976
honey flavor is based partially on the plants the bees use. use shitty plants, get shitty honey. just another reason why you shouldnt buy mystery honey fromgod knows where.

>>19304243
>oey vey goyim dont buy from fellow goys, its a scam

Real honey tastes like medicine.
The fake and mixed ones are unironically better.

>>19304007
>I'm only sus because the dude at my market legit sells his honey in the same plastic bear bottles that every other company does. Like bruh. Maybe it's just cheap and you bought it but it looks 100% like the supermarket stuff.
If it's anything like selling eggs, we just reuse store egg cartons because why the fuck would you spend extra money on egg cartons when people have empty ones. I wouldn't be surprised if they reused bottles.

>>19309478
So he bought hundreds of bottles of supermarket honey just to empty them out and use the shitty plastic bottle? Yeah that sounds logical...

>>19309454
>Real honey tastes like medicine
What the actual fuck have you've been eating? Whatever it was, it wasn't honey.

>>19309489
No he reused old plastic bottles and washed them out, or he just ordered them from the usual chinese scumbags by the hundred. Again I've kept birds not bees.

>>19303588
check to see if the seller you're buying from is the actual apiarist

>>19304007
>>19309489
you can buy the fucking plastic bottles new
it's not like the honey industry only makes bottles for themselves or it's some kind of secret
https://aaronpackaging.com/products/8-oz-12-oz-honey-clear-pet-plastic-honey-bear-bottle-w-label-panel-38-400
here's the first result I got on google

>>19303613
Even disregarding fake reviews, if you read amazon reviews, a lot of the people are just straight up morons that wouldn't even know how to discern what's quality or not. These boomers write like they have an 85 IQ.

>>19309705
I love when they reference the names of specific people in their family like we all are supposed to know what the fuck they are talking about.

>>19310026
What you don't trust aunts Edna's opinions about how good this pasta strainer is?

>>19303569
I get honey from my father in law who has a big farm. The bees are just his side hobby as he doesn't sell honey. He plants all sorts of special flowers around the bees and it changes the taste of the honey. Super floral, really good. Store bought honey is fucking trash.

>>19310128
Dad's "special flowers" yup he's a stoner lmao.

>>19303569
Thairs a burn test using q tips you can check out the videos real honey has like a scummy coting on the top . If your home is like 5 dollars it's fake you can easily pay 10 or 15 dollars fore a small bottle honey goes a very long ways with a little experience you can easily tell the difference.

>>19303935
the only honey i buy is from a local lavender farm and ive met the bees so i know its legitimate

>>19310150
Having bees pollinating weed would be a nightmare

>>19309412
>>19309418
Cry some more, sugar syrup babies. You can't tell your "authentic" bee sugar syrup from "fake" sugar syrup without a lab test because there is virtually no difference, and for practical purposes no difference at all. Oooh aaah muh floral aromas LMAO as if there are no artificial solutions.

>>19311147
Lose weight

>>19309705
"like"
no, boomers do literally have retard level IQ

>>19311178
Don't have to, I don't consoom sugar syrup (made by bee™ or otherwise). Stop supporting the bee industry, you sugar-addicted toddler.

>>19304007
>sells his honey in the same plastic bear bottles
My dad had 20+ beehives until he got too old to keep them up. He sold his honey in those same plastic bear bottles, they're available cheap in bulk precisely because everybody uses them.
I used to help him bottle once or twice a year in exchange for a few gallons of honey to make mead with. There were a bunch of clover around, and some peach trees as well. He made great honey.

>>19311222
Looks like your keto diet has really increased your estrogen levels and lowered your testosterone. Might want to get yourself checked for hysteria and a heckin feminine penis.

>>19311586
>keto
But I just had melon and cherries, sugarschizo ROFL

>>19311739
lol hope you enjoyed your sugar syrup, lardass.

imagine living in fear about honey lmao

>>19303977
I normally get my honey from a local apiary (I've been there, seen the hives, they sell different variants and all of them are from plants commonly found and/or are native to the area), but I've picked up a bottle of this a time or two in a pinch, or when I'm doing something requiring a ton of honey.
One of those bottles did net me that refund, though the honey itself tasted fine.

>>19303613
>when there's over a thousand reviews for a product and it's almost entirely positive you can be pretty fucking confident that the company is buying reviews
FTFY.

>>19303661
FDA is not infallible, yet when's the last time you heard it revealed that a giant honey scam was uncovered and the factory was doctoring corn syrup and printing phony labels?

And don't say it happens all the time and is covered up.

I know you guys think you need to suspect and question absolutely everything purported to be true, but it is in fact paranoid to seriously doubt that something marketed as honey would actually be anything else.

That kind of thing just isn't very likely. Go ahead and fret anyway because this could be the one time such a scam was happening, but prepare to wait forever.

It's much less exhausting to actually just trust most things at face value because there's rarely anything sinister behind the curtain. Hell, there's no curtain.

>>19303926
Why don't you TRUST the PROFESSIONALS who deal in honey for a living? They don't just sell toxic honey. What kind of business model is that? Not sustainable. This thread is retarded. Scary that *some of these people may actually come here for valid advice and answers.

>>19303959
fuck you for encouraging this paranoia

>>19303569
I'm on phone but if I was on the 'puter I'd paste a documentary about olive oil scam in the EU. Basically it's like the margarine business yet many countries import and sell that shit labelled as olive oil.
Unless you have personal connection I'd assume it's probably not safe. I know it is being a dick but.

>>19304072
Corn syrup isn't something you should overdo, but it's certainly not fucking toxic. Especially with how much honey you're actually consuming. If it were HFCS you'd still be using it sparingly.

>>19305497
*dregs

And this place was dregs to begin with.

>>19313945
But in this case you could just check the address. You should still support the real farmers, doesn't matter if it's US or some place else.

>>19309668

Psssh. The whole point of the Farmers' Market is to sell your little boutique, local version of something. Why the fuck would anyone selling honey at a market not use glass jars? Better yet, the canning jar with the fabric under the ring. You can add at least $4 more for the fancy "renewable, reusable" packaging!

>>19311187
Yes, as an entire generation they're just all dumb people. How anyone they begat could be any smarter is a real tough question too. Hope it skips a generation.

>>19313964
>The whole point of the Farmers' Market is to sell your little boutique, local version of something.
No, the whole point is to sell yuppies the illusion of caring about anything beside what's on Netflix tonight--and depending on how many levels of irony you're huffing, the appearance of re-used supermarket plastic bear bottles is actually genius. (Study the PBR marketing history.)

>>19313935
Are you lost, moshe?

>>19303959
you really think they can't rehearse some made up answers to those questions to fool you?

>>19304018
>big companies don't lie

>>19314176
They probably would lie if they could, but the problem is they are under more scrutiny and if it's found out they are making fake honey their reputation would be ruined, and for a big company reputation is far more important than some rando at the farmer's market who can just go to the next county and do the same scam over again.

>>19314179
can't decide if you are trolling, naive or retarded

>>19305497
>we are getting the dredges of the internet here now
>now
I've been here since 2007 and can confidently say this place has never not been the dredges of the internet

>>19303588
beecucks lost their shit about colony collapse disorder a few years ago and went hard into muh bee gardens. it was just a meme so now honey prices cratered

>>19303791
>no difference between honey and sugar water
That is absolutely false, even the most basic bitch of clover honey from the plastic bear tastes totally different from a sugar syrup. Honey is more expensive than cane sugar syrup anyway, so if you're paying a premium cost you are expecting to get what's being advertised to you and not the lowest cost alternative.

>>19307382
Not him but all of the LHBS I've been to sell boutique honey that's more expensive than what's at the grocery store. The selection is better in terms of variety or volume but still more expensive.