/ck/ - Food & Cooking

2021 Snoozefest in a mug for me tonight.

>>19255286
Estimated date of arrival at the post office
22 May 2023 - 26 May 2023, 12 - 16 days remaining.

You jealous?

>epacket from O-cha already paseed customs and will probably arrive within a week from shipping
impressive, very nice
I'm glad I took epacket over the much more expensive express shipping

>>19256366
>there are people paying $8 for 25g of tea
>they think they're getting a good deal
Oh lord, why are Americans so easy to con. Just go to your local Chinese supermarket and pick a random loose leaf tea from their selection, it'll be like $5 for 100g.

>>19256586
>there are people paying 20$ for a meal at a well-regarded restaurant
>they think they are getting a good deal
>when they could be buying store brand hot dogs for like 2$ per 100 grams
oh, those foolish americans. how I pity them!

wait until you learn how much rich chinese tea snobs spend on their tea though. 3$ per gram Longjing? 1000$ pu-erh cakes? it's more likely than you think.

>>19256598
Rich people waste money, what a shocking revelation. I can almost guarantee you are not rich enough to be wasting so much money on tea, nor would you even be able to taste the difference between the stuff you buy and ordinary tea.

>>19256602
I drink both cheap gunpowder / shu pu-erh and expensive shincha and aged sheng. I know the difference between the two very well. there are simply some things you can't get for cheap, no need to get all "sour grapes" about it
this thread mostly discusses cheap tea anyway, so go to reddit if you need to vent your frustration at your financial situation

https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2022-2023-longjing-green-tea-chinese-organic-food-dragon-well-tea-long-jing-tea-250g-bag-aaa-chinese-beat-green-tea-organic-tea-online-p0933.html
anyone tried this longjing from fullchea? i'm nearly out of the ""first grade"" one, i guess i'll have this next and see how the quality is.

>>19256651 (me)
oh just noticed it only ships from russia, guess i can't order it

got a pound of loose leaf thai tea mix for like three fifty at the asian store. normally i would pass tea mixes, especially dishonestly dyed tea, but not ceylon tea at this price.
very forward on the vanilla. i could not discern much of star anise or cardamom, but others swear it's the same as restaurant thai iced tea.

nothing like fish oil and green tea to start a day

>>19256782
I pray your cholesterol levels lower soon.

The Japanese are the only tea growers I can truly trust on Earth.

I just don't trust the Chinese as a culture.

Good morning /tea/

Enjoying some assamica this morning with my new gaiwan from Yunnan Sourcing, and my new tea tray from Amazon.

Life is good these days.

>>19256844
>Yotsuba B
I can't look at this site anymore except in Tomorrow style. Occasionally it resets and my peepers just can't handle it.
Cozy cha station in any case- that gaiwan looks impressively thin.

>>19256838
Chinese people aren't a monolith. The degens in the North are strikingly dissimilar to those in the South. The CCP however is quite untrustworthy.
>The mountains are high, the emperor is far away

>>19256844
I hope you have a fantastic day

>>19256923
Install dark reader no coming back from it

>>19256957
seems pretty nifty but it doesn't work for my browser. Thanks anyway anon.

>>19256786
I too hope that my cholesterol levels are at regular levels.

>>19256602
Classic 4chins sour grapes posting

ITS SEAWEED WATER TIME LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO

>>19258100
Is it finally time to order sencha or do i need to wait lonver for the cheap stuff?

drinking some taiwanese bi luo chun today. "competition grade" supposedly
it's fairly different from the chinese stuff. less sweet and more savory in a vegetable broth kind of way. and something about it reminds me of lime... an intersection of spicy and sour nuances? not bad.

Threadly question
You're learning Chinese, right anon? You want to tour tea farms in Fujian and Yunan right? How else will you get more tea knowledge if not right from the source?

>>19258180
香蕉人?

god i love costco. I attribute my exit from NEETdom to this stuff.

>>19258180
Why would I do that?

>>19258204
Congratulations on getting out of the house.
Have you tried other green teas? Any loose leaf? It's a big world out there.

>>19258180
我一直在学词。你现在开心了吗?

>>19258429
just some shit i randomly found in T&T. plenty of costco bags left so maybe i'll try loose leaf cheapo bulk shit online like some anoms have said

>>19258477
fyi 一(one) should be 也(also).

>>19258504
No, I meant 一直 because I am referring to a previous post where I stated that learning words was useless. I have decided to give it a shot and learn some words.
Hence the sarcastic second sentence

>>19258511
ah. i am 2nd gen chinese it is extremely difficult to write and read (and perceive sarcasm) but i understand people talkin real good.

>>19258204
Anon I have to warn you that those plastic teabags contain more microplastics than pretty much any other source you can ingest
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5295662

>>19258526
Well I’ll be the first to admit that my Chinese is firmly at the ‘talking parrot’ level. I wouldn’t be surprised if I made some mistake in there. Has knowing Chinese ever been helpful for you? I’m primarily learning because it’s a fun challenge but I was hoping that it might come in handy one day.

favorite spiced tea? do you buy them mixed in (earl grey) or add your own spices to pure tea?

trying to come up with a blend that will go well with frothy milk tea with butter

>>19258550
well my family friends are all chinese. and half the people i deal with are honestly mandarin speaking. guess it depends where you live. nothing but chinese where I live.

I hate how long packages sit at the port in china before they ship. When I am paying $40+ for airmail I would like it to be a bit faster. When will shipping get back to pre-covid speeds?

>>19258405
Its fun

>>19258785
Is that what it is? I haven't received an update since April 8th.

>>19258785
>When will shipping get back to pre-covid speeds?
Probably never, air travel is still way down and most airmail from china is loaded in free space on international flights.

>>19259011
>Is that what it is? I haven't received an update since April 8th.
Ouch, that's quite the wait. What was the last tracking message about? But yes if it is airmail then often the package will sit around for long time at the airport until they have free space on a plane. The tracking will not update while it is waiting, they only update tracking when a package is moved. I have had some packages sit for weeks with no update until suddenly they are on a plane.

if i keep drinking tea first thing in the morning will my stomach toughen up so i don't have to eat first? the tannins bros...

>>19259397
No. Just drink shou puerh in the morning.

>>19259404
i've never tried shou. does anyone have a recommendation for one to pick up at fullchea?

>>19258543
hmm. guess its time to take the loose leaf pill. but first i must finish the kirkland green tea. it's a mixture of sencha and matcha! wow!

>>19259451
Haiwan 9978. or some of the cheaper Dayi cakes like 7692 or something

>>19259451
>>19259896
ah, and make sure whatever you buy isn't from this year. shu usually tastes better after a year or several

is orange pekoe worth the hype?

>>19259683
Alternatively, you can buy those silicone reusable teabags.

>>19260171
orange pekoe is the bare minimum
not really into Indian black tea anymore though

>>19260186
Apparently the Rwandan's have orange pekoe, my parents were kind enough to bring back special edition Darjeeling (2nd flush) from England. Say what you will about the English and the monarchy but at least their tea isn't horrible.

What tea should I get?
>you have to be more specific about what you want
"no"

>>19260199
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=796
you should get this. all 1.25 kg of it

>>19260209
What's the catch?

>>19260199
>What tea should I get?
I'll flip the script a bit. What equipment do you have? I'm a big fan of turkish tea, but then again I have a samovar (semaver in Turkish), if you have just a kettle and teapot I've always been a huge fan of russian caravan. Turkish tea has a lovely ruby red colour if that's something you're into, it has a somewhat earthy/grassy taste that some people don't like though.

>>19260219
I got a tasting kit and a mug insert, I'll check out the caravan

>>19260218
it's cheap, chopped up raw pu-erh. there isn't really a catch beyond that. some people like it, some don't. I imagine it could be a little harsh, but I haven't tried it

>>19260199
this one of course. should still be available at Liquid Proust

>>19260225
If you're not a fan of smoky flavours it's probably not for you, but I like it, even though it's not carried on a literal caravan anymore, it's nice that it has that subtle "there's a campfire somewhere" flavour.

>>19260232
>Yes, I did sell them the tea, but it was labelled for Minecraft use only your honor.

>>19260171

>>19259397
Just eat first, its not hard
You should be eating breakfast fairly quickly after waking up anyways

>>19259451
>does anyone have a recommendation for one to pick up at fullchea?
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/haiwan-2019-yr-pu-er-cha-9978-batch-191-shu-puer-te-357g-p0473.html

>>19260199
Only if you brew gongfu
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2022-xiaguan/products/2007-xiaguan-jin-se-8100-golden-tuo-250g-puerh-sheng-cha-raw-tea?variant=31345913954407
If you just brew regular western style then this
https://kingteamall.com/collections/dark-tea/products/80s-wuzhou-liu-baoliubao-a-grade-850g-loose-leaf-dark-tea-guangxi-province
And grab some of this while you are at it
https://kingteamall.com/collections/home-page/products/2023-early-spring-jiu-qu-hong-mei-jiuqu-red-plum-a-black-tea-hong-cha-zhejiang-province-的副本?variant=43754443145446

>>19260199
https://cspuerh.com/collections/chen-sheng-hao-new-releases-puerh/products/2023-na-ka-raw-pu-erh-tea

>>19260288
not hungry, won't eat simple as

>>19260291
>>19259896
thanks

>>19256366
hello /tea/
after drinking a lot of coffee I'm starting to realize that my palate is pretty fuckin' boring. I figured why not, I wanna experience some good quality tea. Mom was an avid tea lover so I genuinely got curious
every recommendation is appreciated!

>>19260219
redpill me on Turkish tea. when I visited Turkey, most of the tea I was served was just cheap Lipton black tea.

>>19260595
tea is a big world of flavor with more variety than coffee so there is a lot to explore
idk where you live, but the usual recommendation is to either find a local specialist online tea store, or buy from China (yunannsourcing is approachable for a first purchase and has a wide choice of tea)
if you want to try easy to like teas from different categories, get something like:
>oolong: tie guan yin or taiwanese oolong
>some chinese black tea (for yunnansourcing everyone keeps shilling black gold bi luo chun, but I haven't tried it)
>some freshly harvested 2023 green tea (long jing is the most famous, but choose anything you want)
>maybe some pu-erh? ripe / shu can be a bit similar to coffee and raw can be good if you want something intense with some bitterness and astringency

>>19260669
is there some specific temperature do I have to follow with each of the recommendations you gave? I remember how compared to coffee, tea is more sensitive to heat that it ruins the flavor

>>19260698
Check the pastebin

>>19260595
similar to what the other anon said, personally i'd browse around and grab a green, oolong and black to get an idea of what's available, puerh if you're adventurous (but, the range of tastes in puerh is massive and it's a bit of a dense thing to get into)
here's a couple decent things i'm drinking lately
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2021-yunnan-golden-spiral-black-chinese-tea-dianhong-red-single-bud-black-chinese-tea-250g-p0786.html
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/fullchea-longjing-tea-dragonwell-tea-chinese-green-tea-loose-leaf-first-grade-natural-lung-ching-dragon-well-4oz-113g-p0905.html

greens want 80c but i find if i let the kettle stop rumbling and pour it into the tea pot it's around 80c by then

>>19260698
boiling water works fine for most tea, except for green tea. with green tea it should generally be lower, depending on the type
tea tends to be easier to brew than coffee in my experience. you can even often get good results by brewing it straight in the cup. you do need to have decent water though, but a basic brita filter will usually be enough unless your tap water is super fucked

>>19260595
yunannsourcing has a massive collection of just about everything but shipping can take months(they have a USA site, if that helps), vahdam is good for indian and available of amazon
jasmine peals green tea
dragonwell/long jing green tea
Earl Grey black tea
Darjeeling black tea (indian)
Assam black tea (indian)
Da Hong Pao oolong
tie guan yin oolong
sliver needle white tea
>>19260698
80c for green, 85c for bud white teas, i like my blacks at 90c and boiling for everything else. what really make a big difference is amount of leaf vs water and what you're brewing in. best advice is get a cheap $10 ~100ml gaiwan off amazon and use 5g of leaf. steep the leaves multiple times increasing the brew time a little each time i.e 1st brew for 10-20 sec, drain and drink. 2nd brew for 15-25sec, drain and drink. repeat until there's no flavour, most teas can take 8-10 steeps like this

>>19260721
>unless your tap water is super fucked
Huronbros… it’s over…

>>19260731
Imagine the kettle scaling

>>19260721
don't use tap here since it's basically filled with bacteria
have to buy mineral / distilled water from sellers
t. Filipino

>>19260800
Generally with tea you want some mineral content, pure distilled wayer can leave tea tasting a bit bland.
Any sort or sping or mineral water should do nicely.

>>19260747
The tap water where I was born was about 100 grains per gallon. The city I live in now has ‘only’ 30 grains per gallon.

>>19260821
Powerful stuff
My family used to live somewhere with really hard well water and we had one of those sodium exchange sytems that required hauling 40lb bags of salt to refill a big tank all the time, at least it worked reasonably well to cut the hard water down to manageable levels.
Where i live now we have aquifer water, still hard but i can get away with using a standard filter pitcher for tea.

>>19258180
Is there any reason to learn cantonese over mandarin, for tea?

>>19260595
I recommend getting one good sheng pu-er and one good sencha, at least 150 grams of each. Just those two teas will cover the widest range of flavour, and you'll have enough of both to learn how to brew them properly before you run out.

>>19260858
I have one of those, but the sodium level is also really high already so it has been well inculcated in me not to drink the softened water. Maybe that’s a myth.

>>19260698
>>19260721
https://hojotea.com/en/posts-104/
Green tea has always been my favourite kind, but I enjoy it even more now after I read this and started brewing at high temperature.

>>19260877
I guess most puerh gets stored in hong kong if that floats your boat

Can you cold brew tea for longer than 24 hours?

In eastern Europe we drink thyme tea (with honey or sugar), it's actually very nice. You can use dried thyme or even fresh thyme.

>>19260909
>Maybe that’s a myth.
I never had problems drinking softened water but your situation might be different, i would suggest looking in to it, it might be fine.

thanks for the tea advice anons
I'm gonna be shit at it for the first few cups but I'll make sure to contribute in the future

>>19261117
Luckily a lot of tea is pretty forgiving.
Godspeed anon

>>19260218
I've got 2+kilos of it sitting around. Bretty gud.

i boil water in a pressure cooker

>>19259357
My mistake, I did receive an update more recently than April 8th. Here is exactly what the message says. I haven't ordered much from China since 2020. I guess things are just permanently effed up.

>>19260199
Bless this particular post. I welcome all conditions when requesting recommendations.

>>19262536
Very strange. I ordered from China on the 2nd of May and the package is already in Toronto.

English breakfast is so disgusting wtf I'm never leaving earl grey's citrusy teat ever again

>>19262536
Well your package is one step ahead of mine (but you have been waiting longer)
>2023-05-05 Guangzhou, Leave [Guangzhou International Exchange Bureau], next stop [Guangzhou International Exchange Station]
Hope I don't have to wait a month too

>>19262578
Amen.

"Black Gold Bi Luo Chun" from Yunnan sourcing "Golden monkey" and "Golden honey aroma" are better imo but still really good for the price.

>>19263809
fucks sake, im drunk and you've just convinced me to buy more tea. i already have Black Gold and Ning'er.

post teas off ys i should get. if its not stupid expensive or i've had it before i'll get it.

happy birthday to me +12days

>>19263820
I mostly tried black teas and oolong from YS so...

I think one of the best is "Wu Liang Hong Mao Feng Yunnan Black Tea "

Next order i would try "Imperial Mojiang Golden Bud Yunnan Black Tea" and maybe the "Competition Grade Jin Jun Mei Black Tea" to see if i feel a difference.

The "High Mountain Red Ai Lao Mountain Black Tea" is also fine but the wu liang have a longer taste in mouth imo.

"Sweet Potato Zheng Shan Xiao Zhong Black Tea" is correct but not as good as the High Mountain Red imo.

The lapsang souchong is ok but not the best source i found correct for the price i would say if you like smoked.

If you like "oolong" the "King of Duck Shit Aroma" is pretty good but expensive comparing to other teas. The "hairy crab" is not that great but really cheap for oolong.

The "Imperial "AAA" Tie Guan Yin of Anxi Oolong Tea of Fujian " is pretty good but again expensive.

Maybe looking into taiwan sourcing but never ordered from there.

>>19263853
>High Mountain Red Ai Lao Mountain Black Tea
>King of Duck Shit Aroma
>Imperial "AAA" Tie Guan Yin of Anxi Oolong Tea of Fujian
had these before. i want to get around 1kg of tea so i need 3-4 more, anyone have suggestions?

>>19263875
"Imperial Grade Jasmine Pearls Green Tea" and "First Flush "Mao Feng" Yunnan Green Tea" If you like that kind of tea.
"Classic Laoshan Black Tea from Shandong" Cheap and nice mouth feel

>>19263885
>"Imperial Grade Jasmine Pearls Green Tea"
i've had that, their classic Jasmine Pearls are indistinguishable and i was planning to buy more of them

just need one more

>>19263902
That's all for me anon i won't recommend things i haven't tried.

>>19263904
cool thanks! i'll grab some Zheng Shan Xiao Zhong Black Tea Cured in King Orange

>>19262536
>>19262551
>epacket from Japan is within my country in a week
>but it's been sitting at some terminal in my city for three days and they have yet to deliver it
Jesus, why?

>>19263915
i'll post in 4 months when it arrives.........

>>19263927
My last order took 2 weeks to get to Eu pretty average :)

>>19263944
ys always seem to be slow especially with +1kg packages, at least for me in the uk

>>19263947
Which shipping option do you take? (i'm not in uk) last order was a little under 1kg

>>19263957
China Post - e-Packet (3-16 Weeks), it was the cheapest but the other options were either £5 more for 2-16weeks or double the price(£40) for 2-8weeks

>>19263963
My e-packets from almost all sources get home in 2-3 weeks max. Maybe Uk take more time for customs? idk

>>19263853
I agree with you on everything I also tasted. I have the 2018 drunk on red black tea cake and like it better than black gold bi luo chun.

>>19264010
drunk on red is very good, the 2 with the added flowers arent as nice as the plain lack tea cake

>>19264010
DIdn't had the chance to try the cake i wish i did for the price. Maybe the imperial grade is better for gold bi luo chun idk

>>19264109
theres not much difference, drunk on red is also more floral than malty, its closer to High Mountain Red Ai Lao Mountain

>>19264114
Pretty sure i would like it even if i like the malty taste in black teas.

I have found out that gaiwans with thick walls are harder to pour. The water tends to ride that lip of the wall harder than a thinner gaiwan.

There's definitely a challenge using a thick gaiwan, the pouring technique has to be just right for it to pour smoothly.

>>19264010
>>19264096
I buy tongs of Drunk on Red to use as my kombucha base. Hits the sweet spot of price/quality imo.

>>19264257
you're not chinese, you're white and effeminate

>>19263820
Get some green tea from this year, now that he has some in stock

YS just added some 90ml porcelain pots, as long as they are actually 90ml its a pretty good size.
I don't usually see porcelain pots with this design that are less than 150ml
Its too expensive but so is everything these days
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/new-products/products/mutton-fat-jade-xi-shi-porcelain-teapot

>>19264257
>>19264398
If you're not a professional or a monk, tea should be nothing more than a form of zen and relaxation, an escape from the stress of the urbanized world. You have absolutely nothing to prove to anyone by forcing yourself to use old-fashioned tea vessels even when they are uncomfortable for you. If you like using gaiwan, then keep doing so, but if it causes you discomfort, you can switch to any other Chinese teapot or a kyusu without shame, because there is no one to judge you unless you decide to let them.

For me, I got into gongfu at tea shops, some of them gave me a gaiwan and some gave me a choice. I found the gaiwan easily burned my fingers and gave me difficulty in getting all the liquor out, and I don't need to be burning my hands as someone who climbs and has a lot of reports to type. So when I decided to drink at home I transitioned from pots to kyusu, the latter being the most easy to pour cleanly with minimal spills and burns. And I enjoy my tea sessions.

Fuck me I put together a w2t order for the rad Road 2 Nowhere cup, go to 15 minute meeting, come back and it's sold out. I'm buttmad.

Seems like this thread is mostly about traditional East Asian tea, but does anyone have recs for a good looseleaf earl grey I can buy online from the US? Pastebin says Upton, any others?

"Flight take off Kunming, Yunnan"
Godspeed

>>19264649
vahdam just dont waste your time with indian green tea or their green tea earl grey. vahdam is trying to expand into green, oolong and white ect but it just doesn't seem to work with indian tea. thier website is a little cheaper than through amazon iirc but thats shipping from india

>>19264649
I would probably go with vahdam

>>19264698
Vahdam's white tea is pretty good imo

How do I properly pour tea? Can I just dump into a pot with water and let the tea sit while I drink or do I need to do this whole gaiwan thing for the best experience but how would I keep the water at a consistent temperature for each pour?

how do I make boba tea?
I just tried sugar and milk with my usual black tea but the taste in the back of my tongue is horrible even though the front is good

>>19264833
you just turn your water kettle back on and bring the water up to temp before you pour again. not sure what you mean with the first part of your post to be honest. youre going to want to remove the tea leaves after your desired brewing time is over even if youre brewing "western" style because otherwise the tea will become unpleasantly strong (ofc you can do whatever you want but most people dislike really strong tea). I'd recommend you either get a large infuser or another vessel like a jug where you can pour the tea out of your teapot and then pour from that vessel into your cup.

>>19264441
90ml is too small for almost everything
>>19264619
you saved $190 which will be better spent for a proper good cake. how about a hundred for a 2008 7542 from yeeon, you have this one already? t. bought w2t teaware

>>19264924
>you just turn your water kettle back on and bring the water up to temp before you pour again.

Seriously? That sounds very unpleasant, especially if you want to do 5-6 pours total. If I'm relaxing and doing my thing, just sounds annoying to have to run back each time to startup the kettle. There must be a way I can just dump some amount of loose leaf into a pot of water and let it sit there or are there specific kettles that will bring and hold the water?

>>19265008
You can use a French press, make 3 cups of tea at a time. Works better for some teas than others.

>>19265008
>annoying to have to run back each time to startup the kettle
my kettle is next to my desk. chinese will keep the leaves in the teapot and just refill it with water once its 2/3 empty. get a tea cozy and that will help keep the pot warm. lots of kettles these days have a keep warm function.

decanting all the liquid is min-maxing and will depend on how big your teapot is, most gongfu pots and gaiwans are around 100ml-200ml i.e a teacups worth. bigger pots you can either decant after its brewed into a second pot(British style) or as i said at the beginning just keep topping up

>>19265008
yeah I agree actually. I personally have a thermos that I fill up with water at the right temp and then bring the thermos to my setup.

>>19265008
It's pretty easy to get a kettle that will hold its temperature for a period of time. I have a 1.7 liter variable temperature Cuisinart kettle that will hold my water at a specific temperature for 30 minutes. It has 6 options of different degrees from 160F to boiling (212F), which are each designed to be suitable for the different styles of tea. (Green to black and one for coffee)

It ran me 90 bucks, which wasn't that expensive to me, for something I am using constantly every day, but there are much cheaper kettles that will do the same thing if you look on Amazon. My previous kettle was a much cheaper Bonavita .7L and instead of having preset temperatures I could enter any temperature I wanted and it would hold it there for at least 30 minutes.

Kettles are a diverse market. Do some digging depending on what you want out of it. If for example you only drink black tea you could save some money by finding a kettle that will keeps its water around boiling but for a longer period of time.

Drink more liuan

>>19264833
>Can I just dump into a pot with water and let the tea sit while I drink
Brewing in a teapot if fine, no gaiwan needed
But you want to take the leaves out after the brewing time.
Either brew in a teapot with a basket that you can take out, or brew in a mug using a big mesh basket.
If you just toss the leaves in a teapot that's fine but you want to pour all the tea out at once after 4 minutes or whatever your brewing time is. Don't oeave the teapot half full of tea and leaves for like 30 minutes while you drink the first cup you poured.

>>19265052
what does liuan taste like compared to liu bao and shu pu-erh?

>>19265058
>Don't oeave the teapot half full of tea and leaves for like 30 minutes while you drink the first cup you poured
I do this all the time. It's like grandpa style's evil cousin.

>>19264981
>90ml is too small for almost everything
I used to agree and i have two 100-110ml pots but i got an 85ml recently and i really like it for quick small sessions. Especially after dinner.
Its also nice for any tea you want to just cram the pot full of, deep roasted oolongs and that sort of thing.
It is a little harder to keep the temperature up but if you just keep going at a steady pace i find it a pleasing size. Maybe not ideal for your only brewing vessel but good as a second or third.

>>19265069
it's kind of dumb, just do grandpa style then
or grandpa style with a bombilla if you're a chad fusion cuisine lazymaxxer

>>19265062
>what does liuan taste like compared to liu bao and shu pu-erh?
I have to say ive only tried this one version, its an old basket with some wet storage at some point.
I find it closer to tian jian or fu brick. This particular one has some hints of cherry flavor, aged tea, some humid storage notes, pretty mellow and soft, i don't get the strong chocolate notes that i do with liubao but ive heard some other liuan baskets described as chocolaty.
Mellow, round, soft, a little woody, just a smooth tea experience

>>19265123
Oh and its pretty sweet too, at least the finish. Kind of reminds me of a well aged raw puer

>>19265123
Thanks, I'll definitely try it if I have the chance

>>19265072
85ml pot? what shape? easy to clean out?
thanks i'll stay with my 100 ml gaiwan for my 5g dosings i think. and they are rare nowadays. forgotten samples mostly.

>>19265062
Young basket liuan is more like a black tea than a fermented one. It is popular in southern china and Hong Kong where it often gets wet stored and turns into something different. It is kinda like the the difference between young and aged sheng.

>>19265046

Is this a good setup? Temp controlled kettle, teapot with a filter, and then I'll just pour from the teapot into a mug.

>>19265284
Yes, that should work well. I own that same kettle and like it a lot. If you get deep into Chinese teas you may want to grab a 100-120ml gaiwan as well but that teapot should be good for everything else.

>>19265284
very sound method to brew any tea with it. you can adjust the leaves dose to your taste and try at least two brews.

>>19265238
>85ml pot? what shape?
Shu pingish
>easy to clean out
Its fine
>thanks i'll stay with my 100 ml gaiwan for my 5g dosings i think
Funny i usually do 5g in the 85ml and 7.5g in the 100ml

>>19265332
>5g in the 85ml
that seems too tight and not at all funny in that shuiping. are you drinking that tuo chaff like that other guy? are you this guy? fuck me.

>>19265413
Usually im drinking decent raws, nothing particularly chopped up. It probably wouldn't work great for green oolongs but otherwise it's fine.

>>19260171
No, Indian tea is shit quality it’s literally dirt

>>19265500
Yeah bro
*sips ripe puer*

>>19265523
Ripe puer is godtier, just don't buy the weird cheap shit

>>19265523
Chinese dirt is good dirt

>>19264469
that's quite a word salad just to say you don't know how to use gaiwan

>>19264981
I have plenty of proper good cakes. I want a cup with a hand painted grim reaper on it.

>>19265638
>I have plenty of proper good cakes. I
I don't believe you

>>19265638
I have two tongs each of 2000 dayi 7542 and xiaguan 8653 (iron cakes)
I have a few dozen early 2000s ChangTai cakes and mushrooms
I have a few dozen yiwu gushu cakes from different boutique brands.
I also have a pumi of all pre 2000 hk storage cakes, mostly generic zongcha label stuff.
Not to mention the various single cakes of this and that i have kicking around, probably another 3-4 dozen total.

>>19265927
>>19265927
Fuck meant for
>>19265880

now pull your trousers up and try that cake I mentioned

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_one
Pete tong live rn

>>19265927
Where did you get all that? Have you just been in the hobby for a long time? Or did you really spend that much on puerh?

>>19266019
i'm still listening

>>19266019
Is that liker peter tosh but tea instead of weed?

>>19266097
>Anonymous 05/13/23(Sat)01:15:19 No.19266
no, pete tosh was a dreadlock rasta you fucking mongoloid. you circumcised fucks seem to miss something. relax

wha

Thoughts on using environmental chamber for puerh aging?
My automation autism is too strong...

>>19256366
for me, coffee. lol at british people who only drink tea because of trade monopolies and a tax on coffee

>>19266247
If you can get a good deal on a used one I guess it would work. New lab equipment is $$$.

>>19266295
Just buy aged puer, ageing it yourself is a meme.

>>19266019
i miss the days when me and the lads shared a car so i'd pick em up from work late at night while listening to tong. haven't thought about it for years. simple times.

>>19266295
Yeah new environmental chamber is like insanely expensive like anywhere between few grand to tens of thousands. I was looking at some aliexpress ones that sell for much less, dunno how effective those are tho. I could also go DIY route

Also upon further digging it looks like some folks are using egg incubator as a poorman's environmental chamber

I'm planning on getting something higher end than usual to treat myself after getting out of a bad situation that has been straining my finances. I was thinking about finally trying some more expensive matcha, but Japan shipping pushes most of that out of my price range even for splurging. Recommendations? I usually tend towards black teas and darker oolongs, not really a fan of the lighter more floral varieties. My daily drinker is a cheap sticky rice herb puer, and I love very mineraly teas like Laoshan.

>>19266906
epcaket shippin at o-cha is pretty cheap

and now we wait... (i chose epacket like a broke boi)

my tea sin is that I make all my oolongs in one single yixin clay gaiwan that I never wash

>>19267695
I got the same yutaka and sae midori + the Chiran Shincha. kind of wish I waited a few more days to get that super fancy asamushi shincha they added, but oh well.
the package should arrive any day now, hopefully

>>19267708
I almost never gong fu my oolongs. I just don't see the point, they last too long that way. I don't want to have to drink 2 litres of tie guan yin. with ripe pu-erh it makes sense to gong fu because it only lasts like 5 steepings anyway a lot of the time

>>19267771
i that case your gaiwan is too large

>>19267783
it's not even that big, it's 150 ml

>>19267790
thats actually pretty big friend

>>19267790
very big, those are made for drinking green tea straight out of them like shown
www.instagram.com/p/Cqk1YjoNe-m/
sorry for insta

and don't mind me, my tuochatea order is here in EU after 15 days.
perfect dry storage here, full aroma of the leaves is still intact. those cakes are like the best outcome for you in wester storage if you.re not using heated up solution. rh woes are no that relevant as online wankers would make you think.

>>19267822
how's that 7572? any comparisons with haiwan 9978?

Bitterleaftea order arrived, the 2023 Yiwu maocha was pretty disappointing, just tasteless all around and no huigan but it had a strong chaqi maybe because my stomach was empty.
Picrel 2020 Fall Kunlu raw puer, 5.5g in 90ml gaiwan, the dry cake had no smell so my expectations were very low but it was surprisingly good. liquour and wet leaves smelled amazing but cant really describe it, more savoury than sweet smell. long lasting bitterness which had a sort of seaweed or vegetable taste but pretty weak huigan from it, great daily drinker. 0.19 usd/g so kind of expensive especially for fall material
seems like east Simao is as interesting as i thought, definitely gonna get more puers from there

>>19267873
they literally just arrived, opened them, had a quick look and smell, put them in plastic bags into storage. they would taste empty and weird if i drank them right now, after few days in my climate I could try them.

how's 7572? come on, if you don't have a 7572 and 7542 in you're storage I presume you don't know your puerh. 7572 is not the best ripe from dayi but it is THE ripe, my ktm cake is almost gone so I ordered another one from tuochatea, simple as.
it's more austere than 9978 caramel ride, how's that for comparison? :)

today i'm still a bit drunk from yesterdays pete tong session and I will continue the buzz with some interesting beers that, can you imagine, also arrived today. no kidding. hash is also of good quality, thank you very much. like hickok45 says, life is good.

>>19267902
I hate everything from your post anon please stop talking.

>>19267907
that's a bizarre confession. imagine people expressing themselves in different ways, jesus. I hate you too buddy if that's what you like. how about you contribute to the thread and share with us what are you drinking right now?

>>19267921
*punches u*
I'm merely expressing myself, chill out

>>19267921
Again your post just reflect everything i hate from some people that drinks tea, i can't imagine you not being an obnoxious fuck irl sorry anon.

>>19267907
... you're literally on a tea thread, on 4chan.

You sound like a reddit poster.

>>19267932
I'm sure you know a lot more about reddit than me faggot you don't even understand my post you should just go back.

>>19267931
What kind of tea drinker are you then?
Tell us a little about yourself.

>>19267934
It's not about the sort of tea it's the way you talk in your messages and expressions you use.

hahaha the elusive 4chan, hacker on steroids.
it is about the sorts of tea, this thread. go hate somewhere else.

>>19267940
I'm not the guy you got angry towards.

My impression from your post is that you do enjoy tea, but are also insecure about it because you don't want to be seen as gay, hence why you're on an old school message board. Basically hiding from the world your interest, but can't face the fact that tea is a feminine hobby, particularly gongfu style. So people's posts enrage you when they express that level of passion.

Just my 2 cents.

>>19267902
>it's more austere than 9978 caramel ride, how's that for comparison
thanks, makes sense. I love the burnt caramel flavor of 9978, but yeah I'll definitely try 7572 next. for now I haven't because prices are kind of inflated for that recipe

>>19267951
gongfu is feminine?? wtf I'm gay now?

>>19267949
I like the thread just not the guy

>in plastic bags into storage.
>they would taste empty and weird if i drank them right now
>after few days in my climate I could try them.
>if you don't have a 7572 in you're storage I presume you don't know your puerh
>simple as
The entire last paragraph too

>imagine people expressing themselves in different ways, jesus.
>buddy if that's what you like.
>how about you contribute to the thread and share with us what are you drinking right now?

That's what i don't like and i'm not angry at all just saying i hate it

>>19267951
Really strong projection anon, I'm a co owner of a tea shop with my wife so good luck with you gay life anon.

>>19267771
How are you drinking oolongs if you're not doing gong fu

>>19267957
yeah, go for it. that $50 2009 cake is not a bad bargain, that why I shared it. I'm sure you can get younger pieces for cheaper if you dig around. the era of good $15 ripe cakes is sadly gone.

>>19267963
>>they would taste empty and weird if i drank them right now
i mean its not entirely wrong, i find that a lot of the time puer is always fuller after resting for a week or 2, i still drink them immediately when they arrive anyways since during those 2 weeks some notes like from storage can disappear

>>19267973
It can be true but depends on a lot of things, previous storage travel time weather etc etc Maybe some of the cakes needed it but i can't believe they always do.

>>19267965
you can just make tea and drink it, anon

>>19268030
thats what gong fu is, yeah

>>19268037
the fuck? I thought it meant with great effort

>>19268044
it means "with skill". thats different.

>>19268048
hahaha you and the hate boi can have this thread, I'm out

I'm a co owner of a tea shop with my wife so good luck with you gay life anon.

hahaha

>>19268037
no, it specifically refers to a set of practices that you dont have to observe while making tea

>>19268055
>hate boi
Exactly leave and never comeback

i miss turk tea farm anon...

>>19268055
>I'm a co owner of a tea shop with my wife

Of course you do. Of course. Glad you clarified that on a 4chan image board about tea. I'm sure you share to your loved one's that you come to 4chan to talk about tea.

>>19268055
I own two tea shops with my harem, stfu

>>19268083
Didn't leave yet? I actually do and she also sometimes use 4chan too but rarely this board if you really want to know. I don't only use 4chan for tea but it's one of them because you can find nice informations and sources inbetween the shit post like yours.

>>19268056
I thought gongfu was just making 100 cups of tea from one set of leaves

>>19268114
more like 200 but that's it

>>19267822
Hey its grumpy euro anon
Love ya buddy, thanks for always dropping quality reccs

>>19267963
i dunno who you are, but the grumpy euro poster has been here for ages and is very knowledgeable, talking to him about puer is a much better use of your time.

Drink your tea, anons

>>19267973
Particularly toucha tea is bone dry cryogenic Kunming storage, so i would want cakes to get a chance to get above 50% humidity before i broke into them.

>>19266341
wait, that's what this song is about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7ZxRs45tTg

>>19268082
>tea farm anon
I hope his plan is going well.

I also want to know what ever happened to the anon who accidentally spent $300 on fancy puerh at a NYT teashop.

Why is it that when grumpy euro anon shows up we always have an explosion of angry shitposts and autism. I am half convinced there is some samefagging or schizoshit going on.

>>19268519
it only takes two to shit up a thread

>>19268966
Just seems strange that they always seem to show up at the same time.

I don't wanna toss leaves that can be resteeped but if I have to stop drinking for a while, would it be safe to just put water over them the next day?

>>19269261
Yes, it's safe. You can put them in the fridge if you're concerned
You can also use them up for cold brew, I've done it before with leftover greener oolongs

can anyone identify her teacup?

>>19269465
hard to say, mr. feetfag
the shape reminds me of Rosenthal Pompadour a bit, but seems a bit more stock

any Krautanons here tried this seller?
https://tea-club.de/
Thinking about ordering some of this vietnamese oolong
https://tea-club.de/collections/teesorten/products/vietnam-oolong

r8 my setup

>>19269513
Perfect

>>19269513
can you post a video of you eating the leaves?

>>19269548
Why would you eat oolong leaves?

>>19269548
i'll consider it

>>19269513
Looks very comfy.

is there any tea that's really low in caffeine and / or doesn't flush magnesium out of your system?
asking because the girl I'm seeing has a strong magnesium deficiency and can't drink tea, yet I'd like to share my tea autism with her in some way

>>19269570
Make her dome camomile or somthin

>>19269556
have you done enough considering yet m'lord?

>>19269513
good drinkin'/10

>bought cha he on amazon
>came with little silver needle white
I need to explore this world. White tea is a huge blind spot for me. I've had a couple and never thought a one was bad. I'd like to try aged white cakes, in particular.

Can you eat the leaves or use them for something after brewing? Seems wasteful to just toss them, especially with the global warming emergency going on.

>>19270307
>re-steep
>use for cold brew
>compost
>eat i guess
>white and green tea often used in face wash
>kombucha
that's all i can think of

>>19270307
It's not wasteful. What's wasteful is worrying about what to do with your spent tea.

>>19270728
How can you say that when south pole is literally melting?

>>19270733
It's not doing that because you tossed your tea leaves, 90% of emissions come from 100 companies

>>19270733
my south pole is melting in your ass

Drinking some "High Mountain Red Ai Lao" while waiting for my farmer-leaf order i hope the black teas will be as good.

Been brewing my black teas more like greens recently: really helps with the sweet and fruits aspects.

>>19271259
More like green? how?

>>19271314
Lower temp, mainly. 7.5g/750mL, 80°C, 3min; ×3/×4. I don't like them too tannic.

>>19271406
Oh that's really different yes never tried to taste black teas this way.

im really not a fan of dragon balls as samples

>>19271413
You know how they roll them so they'll stick together right?

Any aged white reccs? Preferably from fullchea

>>19269261
Yes, just make sure no bugs or smells get to them.

>>19271413
>im really not a fan of dragon balls as samples
Yeah they are kinda annoying arent they
Some little compressed discs would be preferable i think.

>>19271418
Damn all the zongcha cakes got expensive, when did that happen?
Those are the "safe" selections
Any way we have some poster that's tried a bunch of the cheap whites from fullchea, hopefully he can chime in.

>>19270223
farmer leaf sells some stuff like that, not tried them but his stuff hasn't let me down yet

Calling on gongfu masters here.

Question:
>Do you guys pre-heat your gaiwan with boiling water, then pour it out to then place your tea leaves in the gaiwan to warm up first before steeping?

I watched an alleged "tea master" on Youtube say it's good to do, but then I asked ChatGPT and it said it's not wise do to the oils being evaporated before being steeped... which effects the flavor, and in most cases loses the flavor that are essential to tea drinkers.

>>19271847
>Damn all the zongcha cakes got expensive, when did that happen?
Its been that way for years. They were that price when I bought a cake from fullchea a couple years ago. Cost of buying brand vs mystery tea I guess. Still not that expensive though, no name white tea is just exceptionally cheap compared to most teas.

>>19272008
Try both and choose the one you prefer it's that easy

>>19272008
I do both depending on how im feeling. its nice to lift the lid and smell the leaves in the preheated gaiwan sometimes

>>19272008
if the heat of the gaiwan is sufficient to boil off the oils, isn't the hot water in your cup gonna do it too? doesn't quite seem right
if they're that volatile it feels like you'll lose them no matter what when hot water is involved
but yeah just try things and see how you feel

Do I want to use uptontea for assam and does this one look decent for milk tea or masala chai? There's so many on this site that I'm not really sure what to get. https://www.uptontea.com/assam-tea/assam-organic-loose-leaf-black-tea/p/V00047/
I was thinking of getting a 1000 gram bag but I don't want to get anything more expensive than this one.

>>19272008
>i asked chat gpt
That thing just makes shit up.
Anyways, i preaheat the gaiwan then put leaves in and brew.
If you really want you can put the leaves in the hot gaiwan, put the lid on and wait 40 seconds or so, they pull off the lid and sniff it.
"Preheating" leaves makes no meaningful difference in the quality of your brews and isn't evaporating a bunch of flavor or whatever bs.
Don't over think it, its just tea, everyone always trys to make shit so complicated for no goddamn reason.

>>19272107
Just get assam from vahdam.

>>19272118
Aren't teas on amazon stale and old though?

>>19272143
Then buy it from their website.
Unfortunately teas from upton are frequently old too, they only put harvest dates on premium specialist teas like expensive Darjeeling.
Some poster did a big comparison between upton and vahdam and vahdam came out ahead on many of the teas. You can find it in the archives if you feel like digging.

>>19272170
Oh, thank you! I'll try vahdam I guess. I'm really indecisive when it comes to this kind of thing.
>Some poster did a big comparison between upton and vahdam and vahdam came out ahead on many of the teas. You can find it in the archives if you feel like digging.
I might dig and look later.

if you're worried about lead in your tea then sprinkle some EDTA in it

>>19272458
you probably absorb more lead from welding a few connections than you will ever take in over a lifetime of drinking tea to be desu

>>19272561
then eat the EDTA

protip if you're too lazy to bake bread you can just buy rolls and put it in the oven

>>19272632
dude, no way, thanks for that epic life hack, bro!

>>19272673
np

>>19272008
If I have a guest I will do the whole shebang, but when solo or casual, since I weight out my tea in my gaiwan, I don't preheat it, but I will use the rinse to heat my cup.
So yeah, it's a good practice. Gongfu is about being attentive to tea. Placing the tea into the teapot or gaiwan after its been heated sometimes offers a different perspective or context in which to understand the aromas of the tea.

>>19259397
Drink a cup of water every morning, before anything else. It's magic for your stomach.

>>19259404
What does shou puerh do in the morning?

>>19273021
It's just really easy on the gut. I think it's a tannin concentration issue. Other teas have more which can result in nausea or stomach discomfort when consumed without a bit of food first.

>>19273037
Oh okay, thank you! I haven't tried puerh yet.

>>19273053
It's a big world, but don't let it intimidate you. Just get a few samples from the usual places and see what you think.

Any recommendations for a good glass pitcher to cold brew in?
The one I was using died when my roommate knocked it off the counter. Luckily it was empty.

>>19273404
Borosilicate glass pitchers are my favorite. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07LGR68PG/ I have two of these.

>>19273404
Hario mizudashi or filter-in bottle. The square kaku is made of tritan if you're worried about another break.
https://global.hario.com/product/tea/coldbrew/

>>19256598
>3$ per gram Longjing?
lol. ppl spend 10 dollars for a gram of weed.

>>19256602
>nor would you even be able to taste the difference between the stuff you buy and ordinary tea.
i can definitely taste the difference.

>>19258480
How is the pu erh from TnT supermarket? Its a lot cheaper than Yunnan but im not sure cus i dunt want cheap tasting tea. I recently got this order, its not outstanding in taste but its pretty good. i assume supermarket Chinese tea isnt as good?

>>19273053
u know what? buy some pu erh sampler, and buy some expensive pu erh at the same time.

>>19273488
if you want good cheap ripe, just go to fullchea and get the cheapest Haiwan and Dayi cakes you can find

>>19273488
>How is the pu erh from TnT supermarket?
Its a surprise.
I would stay away from the cakes in cardboard boxes, they will pick up any odor from the store, the time i bought one it tasted like the smell of a cheap Chinese grocer.
Oout of what i see on their website this looks the most promising
https://www.tntsupermarket.com/eng/77905101-yjn-pu-erh-tea.html
Sea dyke has good oolong and puer, butterfly brand is good, keep an eye out for those

>>19273557
will definitely try some tea from Fullchea. Haiwa i looked up, searched up Dayi and nothing came up. I want mid to high pu erh, my last order was mainly mid pu erh.

>>19273488
Yo they have puer tangerines
https://www.tntsupermarket.com/eng/51407801-yoyoho-puer-tea-in-tangerine-peel.html
Anyway i agree with the other poster, you want cheap ripe just get this
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/haiwan-2019-yr-pu-er-cha-9978-batch-191-shu-puer-te-357g-p0473.html

>>19273558
Yeah i saw this one on the site too, but the price seems a little too low. Like I dont want the type of tea that restaurants give out complimentary and have a very one dimensional taste. The TNT puerh LOOKS ok but yeah.
https://www.tntsupermarket.com/chs/50152201-jfl-premium-puer-tea.html
That came up in search too, but idk.

>>19273570
>https://www.fullchea-tea.com/haiwan-2019-yr-pu-er-cha-9978-batch-191-shu-puer-te-357g-p0473.html
This one gets posted around here a lot.

>>19273566
>searched up Dayi and nothing came up
try "taetea", that's their other name. they're one of the oldest ripe pu-erh manufacturers on the market

>>19273570
>https://www.tntsupermarket.com/eng/51407801-yoyoho-puer-tea-in-tangerine-peel.html
This one looks good too. TnT also has those Puerh balls/ mini cakes too.

>>19273580
"taetea
oh yeah heard of them.

new thread:
>>19273598

>>19273298
>>19273499
I might after I buy some other non-tea related items. I'll think about it!

Tea

T

>>19273404
seconding this guy >>19273451

I have the mizudashi and it works great. Very affordable too.

>>19273451
>>19274645
Not that anon but those aren't glass (in case the original anon reads this).

>>19276084
See
>>19276129

>>19276129
>>19276219
Tritan is plastic. PCT is not glass either.