/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>19221101
What do you reckon is in the little pitcher on the left? Cream? Half & half?

>>19221108
horse cum

>>19221108
Probably just full fat milk.

>>19221108
It's empty

>>19221101
Philosophers Coffee:

Any Coffee
1 Cacao
2 Nutmeg
3 Cinnamon
4 Cloves
5 Ginger
6 Maca
7 Mucuna
8 Chili
9 Lions Mayne
10 Cream
11 Vodka

My prefered method of preperation is to make the Coffee plain first and then add in the rest so they dont get filtered out. Alternatively you can add in all the ingredients minus the cream and vodka into the brew and filter the whole thing to make a completely liquid version.

>>19221175
wtf am I reading?

>>19221217
caffeinated schizo ramblings

>>19221114
I could have bet $20 the first reply would be some unoriginal immature comment like this Lol

What's the best roast for cadmium?

The mayor must like his goffee.

>>19221235
https://www.caffepenazzi.it/prodotto/confezione-solograni-selezione-per-superautomatiche/

Everytime i drink a cup of Coffee i have to take a shit afterwards.

Anyone relate?

>>19221249
Just what we need. More slack-jawed tardposting.

>>19221267
yeah because you're turning the coffee into poop

>>19221249
are those coffee machines?

>planning
>prep/set up
>(not taking at every step)
>smelling beans
>writing notes about what you smell
>start filtering water
>bean prep
>hand grind
>take notes of the smells created during grinding(if you have a hand grinder that isn't closed, usually vertical crank table top grinders drop the grounds into a vessel meaning the fresh ground coffee will fill the air as you grind, this smell can depend on what you did for bean prep)
>slightly agitate grounds and smell
>take notes of the smells
>brew
>take notes of the smells while brewing
>rest brew after it is finished while you clean up what is available to be cleaned up at that time(shouldn't take more than a couple minutes)
>smell brew
>take notes
>taste brew
>take notes
>drink brew while reading over todays and yesterdays notes
>write a conclusion and hopes/inspirations for the next brew
>clean up rest of the items used and the rest of the kitchen
avg time: 45 minutes.

steps and time may vary depending on brew method
this list was based on my moka pot routine.

yes, very autistic
also i like to read my notes to my psychiatrist each week.
:)

>>19221344
Zased

>>19221249
>>19221310
>Yesterday we had the great honor of a visit from @alan.fabbri , very interested in the history of the coffee makers collected in the Museum, especially in the history of those produced in the past decades here in Ferrara. Our city boasted a huge metallurgical activity, which began in the early 1900s, and alas ended with the 2012 earthquake. The last major protagonist was Metallurgica Lux in Viale Volano, which produced exceptional coffee makers and housewares with the Stella brand. Many thanks for your visit, and for your attention to the realities of the area that do their utmost to save and pass on its past, in the various events.

>>19221352
Of course Trabatti is in league with italian nazis. Who could have seen that coming?

>>19221374
It absolutely makes sense for Alberto to be a traditionalist right winger, fascist possibly, since he's so tied to classicism, art and beauty while rejecting most of the modern products.

kingrinder raised prices and now the k0 is $50 off sale $33 on sale. whats the new entry level grinder?

>>19221489
Still the <$100 kin4/6 if you want something decent. $55 Kingrinder k1 if you're broke.

>>19221344
Me:
>flip on the kettle
>1 or 2 teaspoons of instant
>bit of milk
>pour in the water
>bob's your uncle
Should take me less than 5 minutes, the longest part is boiling the kettle

>>19221456
It explains the closeted behavior so much. Nonna would have never allowed a faggioli to make her moka.

>>19221456
>Remembering the Soldier Poet. Squad scarf "Memento". Limited edition. Towards new toasts. #mementoauderesemper #GabrieleDAnnunzio #poetasoldato #memento #vittorialedegliitaliani #anniversario #squadratlantica #scarf

Based and RSI pilled

Holy shit he makes Penazzi coffee infused panettone

>Enough. I fucking had it enough. Today I'm going to bash the skull of the next person who's going to tell me he had good coffee made from capsules. #finalsolution #AvengeGianniFrasi #demonic #Nespressohater #TorrefazionePainazzi

>>19221593
>It explains the closeted behavior so much
>the closeted
>closeted
The nigger depicted on his coffee company logo was not enough?

>>19221662
It's not a normal nigger, it's an Abyssinian aka one of the colonized new Italians according to IL DVCE.

The woman represents Italy giving coffee to the nigger (Africa) as in we're civilizing them.

Alberto is /fa/ and fascist as fuck.

He also has a Shiba Inu dog in respect to the other axis country, Japan.

>>19221659
>#TorrefazionePainazzi

>>19221662
The autistic have had to adopt social masking to blend in with their surroundings. The picture becomes clearer.

>>19221674
Based benevolent italians doing humanitarian work.

>>19221232
This fella doesn't add horse semen in a 'spresso are u fr

Just G7 packets today, sisters.

>have to walk through kitchen to get to shower
>end up making turkish coffee instead of showering
hehe :p

>>19222269
I love when that happens.

>>19221627
>>19221634
Fascinating.
This roaster is multifaceted.

>make coffee in coffee pot at home
>taste bitter unless I add in a shit ton of sugar and milk
>buy pre-made coffee from the store
>weak as shit, 200 calories a serving, doesn't work
>buy coffee from McD's or BK on way to work
>$2 to $3 a serving, 200 calories, taste good and keeps me awake

>>19222469
Where are you getting calories from?

>>19222559
>look on back of pre-mix coffee bottle
>look at fastfood place menu for medium ice-coffee which I'm about to order

>>19222559
Cream and syrup.

Does diluted cold brew have less caffeine than espresso?

>>19221627
>d'annunzio rathen than marinetti
pleb

Illegal cupping. Washed guat roasted on friday. 6g, 100ml, 4 minutes, 200f. Brew anything nice lately?

>>19221175
>nigga thinks just listing ingredients = recipe

>>19221235
light
you dont want to burn off too much of the cadmium, thats just a waste of money.

>>19221344
making fun of me for literally no reason and totally unprovoked
i really do live in your head rent free.

>>19221634
>packaged panettone
if its not fresh it goes in the trash
any real italian would know this.

>>19222564
>ice-coffee
so..... not coffee

>>19223300
Dry your eyes and realign and lube that rok buddy.

>>19221108
depends who's asking

>>19223300
Nice numerals.
There is a schizo copy pasting old posts.

>>19223835
thanks :)
no goffee today :(
goffee tomorrow :)

>>19222469
>200 calories a serving
Jesus fucking christ

Is the Inoxpran Tutto BAR good for beginners?

This is your last chance to stop me

I've been in coffee depression for 2 months

I'm trying a new coffee place today, since my favorite place closed down recently. I hope their espresso is good. maybe I'll just try energy drinks.

>>19223905
This is payback for Gianni Frasi!
Never more will you have stale ground beans!
From now on, only the wholest beans you will buy.

>>19223918
This is the strategy: tomorrow I’ll receive the grinder and in the morning I’m going back to torrefazione Continental to buy BEANS, I’ll try a new blend from the 10 they have on display, practice the whole week and on Sunday I’ll order from torrefazione Penazzi.

This evening I’ll write Alberto about the issue with my moka and some other questions like his stance on aeropress filters inside the moka pot.

GODSPEED

>>19223918
Tbh I’m still drinking Giamaica’s decaf and it’s been inside the Airscape for the last 21 days. It’s still very good and flavourful.

Sometimes these Reddit items work.

>>19223313
I guess cold brew isn't coffee iyo either?

>>19223835
I literally only
>buy the cheapest bean coffee from LIDL for less than $0.26 per oz of beans, even if I take a more expensive option
>literally drink coffee every day, and sometimes even 6 large cups because of how delicious it tastes
>the DeLonghi coffee machine is literally god tier and delivers the best quality I can imagine

I literally see no difference between the cheap beans from LIDL with the cheapest DeLonghi machine I could find compared to the ultra expensive coffees.

I drink all my coffee raw with zero additional stuff. Just tap water and beans grinded through my DeLonghi and pressed into my cup.

All this bullshit about "coffee difference" is just bullshit. Literally the cheapest beans coffee with the cheapest coffee machine I could find and normal tap water is for me more than enough.

Just imagine you can enjoy coffee every day, drink as much as you want, and see no meaningful difference in your money expenses.

I can't understand how people buy $1k+ machines and insanely expensive coffee. I love my coffee and I pay not even $100 in a year for coffee and I have the sub $300 machine already for year. And I talk about insane coffee consumption of at least 4+ LARGE cups per day.

If you spend insane amounts of money on coffee, just buy a cheap coffee machine (look up reviews if you can't get a very cheap DeLonghi), buy cheap bones from a grocery store you trust, and just test drinking this raw coffee for a months.

I wouldn't touch any expensive coffee anymore, because of how delicious my giga cheap coffee is.

Buy Eugene for the first time, fucking expensive but kinda worth it.

>>19223310
Anon, it's panettone made by a well known renowned artisanal bakery that only makes panettone during the winter season.

From their website:

>In the coffee version, we enrich the dough with Giamaica Caffè by Gianni Frasi, rigorously prepared with a moka pot. For this leavened product we have chosen the Afribon blend, with a creamy and intense taste. Finally, we replace raisins and candied citrus fruits from the traditional recipe with dark chocolate pearls, to enhance the taste of the coffee. The result is a Panettone with an adult and persistent taste, decisive and greedy at the same time.
In production from October 15th to January 15th.

>Giamaica Caffè

W T F

Torrefazione Penazzi has been Gianni Frasi'd out of his own panettone. :(

I just finished making Tiramisù, I followed the original recipe by Le Beccherie directly from those who invented it.

I used Giamaica Caffè Decaf, made with moka of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9uApXYaWs4

>>19224506
The lore of the Italian coffee scene is intense as fuck.

>>19224515
I ended a little short on cream but it will work nonetheless.

Now, it will rest the whole night in the fridge and tomorrow when it's GOFFEE time I will eat a thicc slice with fresh powdered cocoa sprinkled on top.

>>19224506
So he's lying about roasting to order AND infusing panettone?

>>19223969
>>19223976
I was saying payback for his sudden death. Not because of your stale ground beans. Also because now you won't have stale ground beans no more.

GODSPEED MOKA-FRÀ

>>19224464
bot or schizo?

You'd think italians would recognize pasta when they see it.

>>19224575
I fucking loved Giamaica caffè, but - may Gianni Frasi forgive me - I won't buy again their ground Moka coffee for it's too acidic and I didn't like the granulometry of the first two of their coffees.

I will buy their beans for sure after Penazzi's selection, I want to try the Afribon blend.

Btw Amazon says that the grinder will be here on Wednesday, not tomorrow, so I'm going to buy fresh Continental beans and stare at them for 1 day.

>>19223897
the fuck is that.

>>19224023
???????????????????

>>19224564
well he is italian

Handgrinders suck.

>>19224879
Your mum also.

>>19224879
You're thinking of handvacuums

As far away as possible.

>>19224879
are you using a vertical crank hand grinder?
its much easier and natural for the human form to use
:)
gotta lube up those gears tho.

>>19223969
Did you just godspeed yourself to go make dark roast moka?

>>19224894
Who's the girl, his daughter?

>..and then I put a couple drops of water on the beans to get rid of static buildup
>Ummm, actually, that's called the Ross Droplet Technique, and you need to credit him when you make coffee.

holy fucking schizo
i literally have schizophrenia and i dont even act like this.

>If RTD is such a big deal why doesn't my barista empty the 1.5kg hopper between shots to spritzo?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGHHHHHHHH

I had enough.

I'm writing to Alberto. Right now.

>>19225135
>Dear Mr. Trabatti,
>I'm planning to buy your coffee beans in the next few days and I'm trying to understand the quantity to order in relation to my consumption.
>Being the first order I made, I thought I'd order different types of coffee to test the ones that interest me the most, so I should settle on about 1 kg of coffee divided into 200 gram packs.
>I would like to kindly ask you if, with an estimated consumption of 1 200 gram pack every 10 days, the coffee is adequately preserved inside the valve pack in which it is supplied and the last ones I will consume can worthily keep their freshness up to 50 days from their reception.
>Possibly, do you think it could be useful to seal the coffee in vacuum-packed bags (I have a machine for domestic use that performs this function) and keep them in the freezer, defrosting them as I consume them?
>I would take advantage of this email to ask you another question, since you are very expert on Moka pots and I have a problem to submit.
>One month ago I bought a Giannina coffee maker, the latest "restyling" version, with which I replaced the now defunct classic aluminum Bialetti, and since I've been using it I've always had difficulty getting the coffee out, even following the instructions in the his video the perfect moka.
>In particular, what happens is that by setting the burner to minimum under the coffee maker, the coffee starts to come out and then either it stops completely until I raise the flame a little, or alternatively it comes out but once it is about halfway through the delivery it starts immediately foaming and bubbling, it gurgles and steam comes out from the top of the fireplace but not coffee.

[...]

>>19225196
>If I proceed with a slightly more sustained flame, the coffee comes out but basically the matter does not change much since the coffee maker gurgles and starts making bubbles mid-delivery without the flow of coffee continuing and the only way to stop the delivery of coffee is letting him do it until the intensity of the gurgling gets louder signaling that he's done.
Not having noticed leaks from the seal or other strange things, I tried to press the coffee, to add a little less or a little more but I always get this strange delivery and not smooth and constant as it happened with the Bialetti.
>Trying to analyze if it wasn't the grain of the ground coffee that was perhaps too coarse, I tried to make the coffee by placing 1 Aeropress filter between the funnel and the upper filter of the Giannina, with the result that the extraction was slowed down and the problem seemed almost resolved (almost because other times despite the filter it happened again), with a coffee that in addition to coming out cleaned of all impurities and residue of ground coffee in the cup, also came out very frothy in the Giannina collector.
>Before contacting the Giannina manufacturer's customer service for guidance, I thought I'd ask you as a user of the same coffee maker and who knows how many others you may have tried.
>Thank you for your help and best regards.

That's it.

I hope he will listen to my prayers.

yes, very autistic :)

I told my therapist I don't want to know if I'm schizo or autistic because it would make me feel worse about myself

Btw, I roasted 8oz of ethiopian and 6oz of guatemala using a cast iron pan. The guatemalan came out pretty evenly roasted so I think I will have to roast small amounts at a time from now on. It's $0.50/oz to roast my own beans vs $1.25+ to buy so I'm ok with the quality hit in roasting my own on the stove :)

>>19225291
is it therapy or surveillance?

>€very review shills bialetti moka pots
>try a larger one
>makes weakfish coffee
>leaves a shitload of water in the bottom reservoir
>gets thrown out in a year because it corrodes and gets all sorts of holes eaten into the hopper

>>19225341
sounds like another case of user error.

>>19225346
All my smaller non bialetti mokas work totally fine and haven’t suffered corrosion on internal parts. Only the bialetti has been a let down.

>>19225355
well i've had mine for about fifteen years and used daily it shows no sign of corrosion. can you post pics of your alleged corrosion to prove you're not a shill?

>>19225355
>>19225341
bait + user error

>tfw this simple brewer produces so much seethe & goffee

>>19225341
I've got the 6 cup stainless bialetti, it works fine, you sound defective.

>>19225479
I can’t fucking post pictures from my phone since days, it keeps saying “post successful” and nothing appears. Fucking garbage website.

>>19225475
>giant tins of ground coffee
of course italians like a moka pot, no matter how that trash is brewed it will taste like shit

>please mr trabbati I use preground and can't moka good but I am going to order a jxpro and your beans soon help

>>19225681
Don’t bully him you ungrateful bastard

Great goffee is made in Abyssinia

>>19224744
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6N0fZi9aAw

>>19224515
>>19224521
Thicc

Do you think these Carmelite monks of Wyoming roast good coffee?

https://www.mysticmonkcoffee.com/pages/about-us-wyoming-carmelites

>After much discernment and prayer, the monks had the inspiration to start roasting coffee and selling the beans online. The first samples were roasted on a cast-iron skillet in the monastery kitchen and in 2007, Mystic Monk Coffee, a catholic coffee company was born.

>>19225820
holy fuck those beans are burnt.

lance hendrix said the ssp mp are better than the lab sweets so I'm gonna get the mps

I'm currently making two batches of coffee mead or a coffeemel if you will. Looking forward to getting tipsy and staying awake for it.

>>19225962
>home brew four loko

>>19225475
it's not the brewer, it's you being an autistic attention-whore
40 posts itt are you, someone aping your posting style, or people responding to you, over a third of the posts. none of them, including this one will ever be used by anyone to improve their coffee. net coffee discussion and brewing would improve if you decided that abstaining from technology was what your italian husbando decreed, or even better, if you just died

>>19225992
>this autist still calling names believing that’s only one anon spamming Trabatti

Top kek

>>19225992
>you, someone aping your posting style, or people responding to you
>>19226039
>this esl retard can't parse a basic sentence
I don't care if it's one autist or three, it's such a waste of time

what are some good fancy beans i can get for my sister's birthday who is a coffee head?

For me its the humble moka.

>>19226191
https://www.seycoffee.com/collections/coffee
https://proudmarycoffee.com/collections/deluxe
https://shop.magnoliacoffeeco.com/collections/ruby-reserves
https://flowerchildcoffee.com/collections/coffees

>(((Sey)))

I bought a blend because I was looking for a nice consistent everyday coffee after just trying random single origins which were all over the place. It was really nice so when I ran out I bought another bag of the same blend and it tastes completely different (awful).

>>19226526
blend = whatever they found on the floor
you should make your own blend, buy multiple small bags of single origin beans you know you like and then combine them.
you can even keep them in their respective bags and just mix and match beans each day and have a different blend for every cup without being locked in to 1 larger bag that you might get sick of after a couple brews.
:)

>>19226526
cool story, for me it's daily drinking blueberry bomb ethiopians

>>19226553
sounds genuinely unpleasant

I'm buying this tomorrow guys, I'm so excited for al the kinds of brews I could do with it.
Better moka and french press. V60 next? Manual espresso? So many possibilities.

>>19225992
>to improve their coffee
This would not be so sad if you were not talking about coffee.

>>19221101
Coffee and chilli is the best combo

Give it to me straight bros, what’s the best hand grinder for the money?

>>19227152
>for the money
what money nigguh?

>>19225475

I only drink decaf instant coffee, and usually just in the evening after dinner or with dessert.

>>19225992
>>19226128
Stop projecting your samefaggotry onto others.

what's the best cup for keeping coffee warm for longer? my house is really cold and I like to sip slow
preheating a ceramic mug isn't doing it anymore

>>19227275
do you have an autistic dipshit reason for not using a microwave

>>19227275
make it into a thermos and pour into cup as needed

>>19227283
no, that's what I do now but I'd rather keep it warm than have to reheat it

Morning bros, tiramisù is ready.

>>19226848
>better moka and french press
Lol how do you figure? Goose neck is for pourover. If you think temp control doesnt affect french press (pour 100 degree water on your grounds in your preheated press and measure the water temp directly after pouring if you dont believe me) and moka cant use low temp due to the physics.

>>19221217
>>19223291
philosophy 101 drop outs

>>19227275
Fellow carter is great for thermal and spill proof. Yetis are popular.

>>19227402
I don't have a kettle at all so yes, it's gonna be an improvement from spilling boiling water from a pot to the moka and french press

>>19227653
Fair enough, I assumed you had a regular kettle. Enjoy your new kettle!q+ anon

Is multiple grinders a sign of mental illness? I'm thinking of getting a k6 when I already have a k4 because switching from espresso/moka fine to french press/v60 is a hassle.

>>19227732
Kept my old manual for my pour overs while the new electric grinder is for espresso. I like pour over for the morning and espresso in the afternoon, so it would be a frequent adjustment and a waste of coffee.

>>19227275
keepcup.
https://au.keepcup.com/thermal-16oz
they're an australian site though I don't know if they export or how long it might take or cost, but I've got one of the "16 oz" 475ml thermal and it keeps coffee hot for ages.
also great for making tall ice cocktails or keeping iced coffee cold for a long time.

>>19227313
So how was it?

What is the optimal v60 yield? If I just want to drink like 300 ml is it worth it or do I need to prepare 500 ml or so for the coffee to be worth it? I know there are some "1 cup" v60 recipes but are they objectively inferior to higher yields?

>just try it yourself
I'm trying to see if buying one is worth it to begin with

>>19227732
I keep my hario slim around to grind spices. Honestly I really like a lot of things about it's design, I just wish the performance didn't suck cock.

>>19227801
Making single cup v60s is perfectly fine. You don't even need a 1 cup v60 since the angle and shit like that is going to be the same.

Why is this general so fucking slow during the week?

>Tuesday. It rains. I'm in Ferrara. I paraphrase a poem by Marino Moretti, intent on roasting the ordered coffee. Several people came to visit us, regardless of the bad weather. Nice to entertain them, between one roast and another, by telling anecdotes and tips for preparing a better coffee at home. This is also a profession. And when I see that they ask the questions, I understand that they are on the right track.

Where's the Aussie anon who bought the ILSA pot? Did you receive it?

>>19227813
Who is this man?

>>19227653
american i assume

>>19227858
Alberto "The Coffee Tailor" Trabatti.

Roaster, gourmet, self made coffeestar, master of the elegance, photographer, Italian excellence.

>>19227874

>>19227152
depends
do you need a vertical crank bench sat grinder to satisfy your autism?
or are you ok with a horizontal hand held grinder.

>>19227286
thermos are 100% trash 100% of the time
they ruin the taste of anything that enters them

>>19227313
>cup of black coffee
>cup of milk foam
do you sip one and then sip the other?
honestly kinda based.

>>19227414
>enrolling in philosophy in the first place
ISHYGDDT

>>19227732
i mean if you can afford it then i dont see why not.
if i could afford it i would probably do the same shit.

>>19227801
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oB1oDrDkHM
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WQ1sZzW4o
as always the hoff has the answers.

>>19227795
9,5/10

It was fantastic, the only thing I could've done to reach perfection was to make my own savoiardi but instead I used artisanal ones.

Try that recipe anon and thank me later.

>>19227893
It's not milk foam but it's raw milk with its natural foam and cream layer on the top. It was good.

So, I was experimenting with this setup of having coffee separated from milk and I found that in order to achieve the best result it's better to sip the milk with whatever I'm eating (sweet) and to leave the coffee for last. Be aware that before drinking the coffee you have to take the last bite of the food, not the milk because the fattiness of the whole milk would alter the coffee taste and mute some notes.

>>19227888
You're the autist who was insisting that your enameled travel mug was making things taste like silicone I assume

>>19227933
no
im the other schizo
but the point stands
all thermos ever made make whatever is inside of them taste like shit
if you disagree it is because you are a tastelet.
simple as.

>>19227919
have you tried slurping off a spoon for the entire cup of coffee?
it takes ages to finish a cup but i think its an interesting experience.

Good morning anons, how's the cuppa?

I want to try my hand at roasting coffee and probably just selling it at local farmer's markets, is this a fool's errand? With what a bag of good specialty light roast costs in my area nowadays,(upwards of $20 for 12 oz), I feel like there's some money to be made. I've also never started a business for myself so the idea of that scares me a little bit to be honest

>>19227947
Will try

>>19227956
have you roasted coffee before?

>>19227961
no. probably would need some trial and error before bringing anything to market for sure

New kino
https://youtu.be/me-Q1M3NZNU
https://youtu.be/me-Q1M3NZNU
https://youtu.be/me-Q1M3NZNU

Been using the v60 now for about a year. Feel I've gotten somewhat consistent with it using Matt Wilton's recipe since its straight foreword and easy. Wondering if anyone would recommend Kalita, Origami, Stagg or April pour overs?

>>19227949
>pecs not large enough to look like actual breasts
>no stomach that looks like they are obese but is actual 100% rock hard muscle
sorry but im just not interested.

>>19228041
I went from v60 to origami a few years ago. Its just an "optimized" v60 in regards to flow, like the april dripper is a nonclogging kalita. There's a bunch of obscure drippers to look at if you're in the market for a new one. Do a little research and find something cool. If you need a smaller one cup setup, you might like the orea.
https://coffeeronin.ca/collections/brewers?page=1

>>19227874
>>19227879
Thank you for the info. I have to admit he does look good in the suit.

if i take black and white pictures of myself can i be an internet celebrity as well?

>>19228164
did you finally clean the rancid oils from your grinder bean hopper?

>>19227956
Don’t do it anon, there’s a good reason it costs $20 per bag of decent coffee
T. Roast cuck

>>19228164
>Anfim
>The Italian Standard

>>19228288
there's someone near me selling a lightly used 8 pound electric roaster for $1700. I'm tempted but the business side scares me. I also don't know how it would go running a food-centered small business out of my house with FDA regulations and all that.

Tomorrow I'm getting my new 1Zpresso in the mailbox.
What do I need to do when first using it? Is it ready to grind out of the box?
I've never ever seen a grinder in mt life.

>>19228377
which model

>>19228377
Yeah its good to go out of the box. Toss out the first couple grams you grind if you're paranoid of any "factory residue".
https://1zpresso.coffee/calibration/
https://1zpresso.coffee/clean-tutorial-for-top-adjustment/

>>19228386
JX Pro S

>>19228405
Thank you

cleaned my rok a bit
not much
just a lil bit
hope the alignment is ok when i reassemble it later.
:)

>>19229180
Proud of you anon. Did you manage to not hurt yourself this time?

Is coffee good for you?

>>19229215
no injuries this time :)
it looked ok from the outside but once i got the bottom burr out i saw how much the oils had built up
i drank natural process for like 7 months straight without cleaning it
it didnt smell bad but it actually just smelt like oil like engine oil or something, which i wasn't expecting.
i didnt know what to clean it with so i got some like fragrance free wet wipes and just wiped down the everything i could.
i tried just regular tissues but that didnt have enough oomph so i thought these wet wipes i have should work fine since they dry very fast and dont leave any kind of residue.

i wasn't able to take out the top part of the burr because i dont have a small enough screwdriver but it looked mostly fine.
if everything is put back together and works like it did before then i will have more confidence and will try to remove and clean the top part of the burr next time.

i used tape to mark where my normal setting is so i can have an easier time getting back the size that i know works.

i didnt want to use water for some reason, idk it just didnt feel right in my head even though im sure if left out to dry fully there probably isn't a problem with it.

i havent been talking about my coffee much recently which is pretty depressing.
i checked out (was it you or someone else idk) the beans you were talking about in the last thread but i was not able to find a roaster in my country(australia) that had those beans
like i mentioned before my roaster which i love just doesnt have anything interesting at all these last few months.
but finding another roaster with the kinds of beans i want and the price range and the roasting frequency and the shipping speed is going to be a challenge.
i need something to get me a spark of inspiration, what would this general do without my schizo posts about flavor notes and autistic procedures.

thanks for asking :)

>>19229526
>i checked out (was it you or someone else idk) the beans you were talking about in the last thread but i was not able to find a roaster in my country(australia) that had those beans
Yeah that was me. I actually found another ~200g of that wuri grade 0 nat while I was organizing my greens stash. Found another ~15lbs of two different ethiopians I forgot I had too. 10lb bag of nat and about half of another washed. I'll try to get some good pictures of my recent roasts when my new phone gets here later this week. Doing some 15hr ferment double washed kenyan AA tomorrow.
https://thecaptainscoffee.com/products/kenya-nyeri-othaya-gura-aa-double-washed?variant=40104139259993
>finding another roaster with the kinds of beans i want and the price range and the roasting frequency and the shipping speed is going to be a challenge
Its time to take the home roasting pill. You're already committed to the verticalcrank and 45 minute moka bit, might as well schitz out a little harder this year and develop your taste. Save money, do all the autistic shit you want and fuel your inspiration. That'll put some money in the hg2 account. Sorry in advance, I'm going to post your routine again next time I need a laugh :)

>>19230116
Fuck wrong pic. That guat organic is very good too. Just dropped off an lb for my mom. Here's the eth nat. I thought I only snagged 10lbs of this and ran out last year. Found another 10lbs of it tucked in a closet with the other half bag on top. Both are smallholder grown in the same district, but processed at different plants. Wildly different coffees.
https://www.allycoffee.com/coffees/gedeb-chelchele-natural/
https://burmancoffee.com/product/coffee/ethiopian-sakaro-mijane/

>>19230116
>I'm going to post your routine again next time I need a laugh :)
no booli :(

>>19230116
>>19230150
What do you use for roasting?

It’s here.

BRB, I’m going to buy fresh beans and later it will be prime time. :coolguy:

lubed my bevel gear
and my crank axle
gonna let it sit for another day until i use it again.
oh and i realigned my burs
no touching, just smooth silent rotation
:)

>>19229458
yes

>>19230384
How's the goffee?

>>19230441
I want to try a new blend out of the 10 they sell.
Last time I bought 100% Arabica and it was very good (22€/kg), now I want to see if they have something stronger, maybe 70% arabica 30% robusta or a an interesting mono origin.
Will report later during the day.

>>19230468
Ps. The roaster is called Torrefazione Continental

>>19230468
>22€/kg
thats commodity grade.

>>19230491

>>19230491
I’m not going to buy >>19230515 tier coffee to learn to use my new grinder.
Btw it’s good coffee.

>>19230520
>I’m not going to buy >>19230515 tier coffee to learn to use my new grinder.
good, that is shit coffee.
reminder, if the beans are from italy they belong in the bin.

It's roughly one month since my K6 arrived. Previously I was using C2 for almost 2 years. I mainly use it for aeropress, but recently I also tried making cold brew.
>I didn't expect it to be that chonky.
>So far, the UX is better. The outside adjustment feels handy. The lever rotates easier and needs less force. There's also less retention from the body and the catcher, the latter makes me wondering why Timemore used that removable bottom gimmick.
>Honestly, I don't think I make better or worse cuppa with K6, but having smaller adjustments make it easier to move my grind toward my taste. Like, the difference between 11 and 12 ticks in C2 is significant that I have to accept one setting or the other. With K6, I can tweak bit by bit. Also, I was worried that my hand would inadvertently rotate the grind setting but that's not the case.
>I don't know why, but my "zero" out of the box started at 5 ticks before 0. After cleaning it once, it moved to -4. Either way, it feels weird.
>If someone can tell me how to install that top paperclip in an easy way, that would be great. The cleaning is easy except that one annoying part.

For anyone who has one, what's the build quality on the 1Zpresso JX pro like? I see it's made in China. All their German stuff, amazon won't deliver anywhere I can pick it up and I can't deliver to my home address.

Bros…my very first beans.

I waited 33 years of my life to see actual beans of coffee.

Daily reminder that washed coffee is superior
Captcha G0Y0JW

>>19230881
Gianni Frasi washes his Guatemalan decaf, that’s why it has a bold and dense structure despite the lack of caffeine.

>pic oddly unrelated

So I got a box of these K-Cups and I love this coffee.

Where do I go from here? 100% Kona or Sumatra? Do have a French Press and Grinder, just use the Kerug because it was a gift with a huge bag of assorted k cups

>>19230669
I've had one for a bit over a year I think, it doesn't see daily use, at home I mostly drink espresso and I use it for filter, it's also my travel grinder - but fit and finish is pretty excellent, nicely machined threads, handle is pretty well balanced, no complaints with it so far.

>Got rejected by a cute tomboy
Goffees for this feel?

>>19230288
https://www.sweetmarias.com/popper.html

>>19230926
I use to drive by there every morning in Kauai before I went sightseeing and hiking. Just walked right to the in between open area of the store and take as much of the coffees as I want. Was delicious. Eventually bought some from Costco on another island because it was cheaper and flew back.

>>19231027
Maybe stop being homosexual and let the mentally ill be and find yourself a cute feminine girl.

>>19230904
>Gianni Frasi washes
Hand washed to order.

>>19230849
<3

Made the first goffee with it, followed the reference chart @ 2.5 rotations.
The Giannina extracted everything too fast, so I touch too coarse for her liking.

The taste was ok, a little weak, but sweet and with a great persistence after taste.

I’m happy bros.

>>19231122
Glad you like it. Now hibernate for a week, don't post, and figure shit out. Order some beans from anywhere not Italy as well. You posted very low quality beans before.
https://thebarn.de/collections/beans

>>19231139
These were training beans.

Thanks for the link

How expensive are your everyday run-of-the-mill beans?

>>19231139
Did not found it myself but do they say where they stock their green beans?

>>19231160
From that small sample earlier, there are some very visible defects. Lots of tipping, several broken beans, some chipping and what looks like a bug bite. You've got all the tools you could need now, don't get comfortable getting scammed by bad roasters. Good luck.

>>19231199
I mean, for 22€/kg isn’t the quality ok if the coffee is good? I like it

>>19231181
36€/kg for the various single origins I get

>>19231198
Its not unusual for the "bigger" third wave roasters to source and import their own greens rather than go through a distributor.

>>19231232
Is every coffee imported already sold? My local roaster stores them underground. Pretty deep.

>India Cherry AB Arabica coffee

>India Cherry AB is a single origin Arabica, it comes from the Indian region of Karnataka. Obtained through the "natural" process of separating the pulp from the grains, it is full-bodied and acid-free. The appearance is irregular due to the collection and selection that take place in absolutely rudimentary conditions. But on the palate it gives a full taste, repaying those who buy it in grains.

>Intense notes of cocoa and toasted bread are its calling card. It is an easy coffee, ideal for any moment of the day; at the end of the meal it stands out on the previous courses, leaving a long and pleasant persistence. Despite this, it has low caffeine, like all my coffees.

>200 gr - 8,00€ (40,00€/Kg)

>>19231246
Notes of chocolate and intense aromapilled

>>19231215
You like it because you've been shitposting and drinking preground. Your tastes will likely change as you start preparing better coffee more frequently. If you are going to stick with cheap coffee that has visible defects, just spread the whole bag out on a tray and pick all of those fucked up beans out. I sort and grade my greens for less variance, then go back and pick through anything I don't like the look of after roasting.
https://loring.com/avoiding-coffee-roast-defects/

>>19231263
I can’t drink average coffee here in bars and “commercial” trash anymore since when I started drinking -pre ground- Giamaica caffè, so I guess that stepping up to grinded beans at home will put me on the right path to good coffee.

Look at it this way: by drinking “better than average even if not so good” coffee (according to what I can find here of course) bought from local small roasters will teach me how to recognise defective beans and whatnot so that once I’ll get really good coffee I will be able to appreciate the differences.

It’s like a coffee school

>>19231274
The path to "good" coffee and the path to your idol Alberto head in very different directions. I pray you'll make the right decision, but I know you'll stumble on the way there first.

>>19231285
both use questionable storage.

imagine not buying wine from a cellar. imagine not buying cigars from a humidor. imagine not buying specialty coffee properly stocked.

at least trabatti is upfront.

>>19231341
it's you being an autistic attention-whore
40 posts itt are you, someone aping your posting style, or people responding to you, over a third of the posts. none of them, including this one will ever be used by anyone to improve their coffee. net coffee discussion and brewing would improve if you decided that abstaining from technology was what your italian husbando decreed, or even better, if you just died

>>19231348
kvetching weasel, beans are the kernel of good coffee.

>>19231348
It’s not even me the anon who answered to you :(

With that said, I owe Trabatti a purchase so…it’s a mandatory stop.

>>19231341
>at least trabatti is upfront
Yes signor every bag roasted to order don't mind the two 5kg roasters I have sitting here.
>>19231360
I'm aware. You don't have to pay anyone for responding to your emails. You'd be much further on this journey if you never developed feelings for that man. You're already stumbling.

Just pulled a shot of a Yemen natty. Tasted like cherry cough syrup.

>>19231090
Neat

People have recommended sticking to volcanic area dark roasts if I like it. I like dark roasts, but not overly smoked ones.

>>19231081
Did you end up installing the PID?

>>19231578
I got it all wired up and working but all the electronics were screwed into an amazon box underneath. Didn't like how it looked and I knew if I started using it I'd never change it. The whole point was to make something nicer looking than the coffee can abomination roaster. Took it all back out and wired it back up to stock. Currently shopping for a nice laser cut acrylic case, probably just going to have to just design and have something made. I put it back together with wago connectors so it'll be like a 15 minute wiring job once I find something. Still haven't figured out software control of the 120v dc fan, but I can just dial it up and down with the dc booster I'm using for now.

>>19221114
forsenE

>>19228405
>grinded for moka @ 24
>still too coarse and the coffee is weak

WTF 1zpresso lied to me

>be me
>on the website of roaster
>click on "contact us"
>compile the form with the message, my name and my email
>click "Send"
>get a video confirmation message that they received my request on a blank page
>no confirmation email sent to my email
>2 days have passed and no answer in my mail
>spam folder empty

I hate when this happens because my extreme autism make me suffer with my brain telling me that I filled the contact form with a wrong email and I will never receive an answer, I'm also too shy to send another email because I'm not sure that this happened.

I'm tired bros.

>>19231748
no answer from albertino?

Dear 'bert I wrote you, but you still ain't callin'
I left my cell, my pager and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not've got em
There probably was a problem at the post office or something
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em

>>19231160
holy shit that is coarse as fuck

>>19231027
honduras geisha double washed 48 hour cold brew with a silly straw.

>>19231181
$100/kg sometimes $80/kg

>>19231741
>@ 24
yeh im 90% sure that chart is total bullshit
try 19-21

>>19232195
Its 1zpresso's chart. You should email them and bitch.
https://1zpresso.coffee/grind-setting/

>>19232232
sorry but i dont touch horizontally cranked grinders.

>>19232136
I thought the same and it was the moka pot range from the 1Zpresso chart.
Tomorrow I’ll go lower.

>>19231122
Great news moka-frà. May the goffee be copious.

>>19231160
French press grind size.

>>19231996
Not that anon, but I wrote him directly since I already have his email.
No, he still hasn’t answered but today he wasn’t at the torrefazione so he will answer in the next days.

Fun fact: he has his cel number on the website and he encourages you to call him rather than writing him, I guess that’s because he’s always going places.

I hate talking to people via phone because I spill spaghetti everywhere, also imagine the excitement while talking to Alberto over the phone.

I imagine the call during at least 30 minutes.

>>19232301
Lol the 1Zpresso chart says that 2.4 to 3 rotations are the moka pot range and that picture was 2.5 rotations, so…I need to go finer, outside the numbers the chart suggest.

>>19232297
check out the grounds in hoffmanns video
>https://youtu.be/zK0F5PqJ1Gk?t=452
(timestamp included but just in case it is 7:32)

>>19232310
how hard do you get when thinking about talking to him on the phone?

>>19232318
Yeah, I also kept a sample of the pre ground coffee I was using before today (same coffee, same roaster) and I’ll try to match it.
So, even with super coarse grind the coffee tasted good and very sweet although it’s a bit weak.

The Giannina behaved perfectly with this grind size also, no bubbles and choking.

>>19232323
Hard?

I don’t want to talk to him, I get anxiety but not because it’s him, it’s because he’s a stranger and I’m shy as fuck, I would probably stutter and sweat too.
In the email I can write with elegance with a refined language, on the phone not even remotely.

One day I’ll visit him in person and he’ll probably take a picture of us to post on his Instagram page so you people here will doxx me.

Huuuuh

>>19221101
been thinking about trying coffee from vietnam, any recs?
is it even worth it?

How effective are these cleaner tablets for a hand grinder?

>>19232618
They work but they're unnecessary. Hand grinders are low retention by design. They don't really get gunked up unless you're running oily roasts. Those are for cafes that don't have time to strip and clean a grinder. Run a few of those through then purge 50g of beans and they're good to go. You just need to brush your burrs out. 10 minutes of downtime costs you nothing.

Mom has a couple antique coffee grinders, heavy duty wood, machined steel internals, and hand crank.

Should I cop them when I visit next time or just buy a modern burr grinder? She isn't a coffee drinker and is looking to downsize antiques anyways

>>19232618
totally worthless.
take your grinder apart
use a brush and at most some compressed air
put back together

if you really want it clean like it was factory new
buy an ultrasonic cleaner

>>19232683
Anything modern is going to shit on them heavily. Might be worth a couple bucks to the right person if you were willing to spend time looking. Get some pictures and start googling.

>>19232683
Those grinders are designed to simply churn out ground coffee without bothering too much about the quality. They're kind of fun to use, but don't expect much out of it.

>>19232688
Compressed air from a can leaves a bad tasting residue and shouldnt be used on grinders

+ a brush is all you need

>>19233061
I use one of those before putting my lilydrip in, really cleans things up.

>>19233066
You'll learn how to use it one of these days anon.

>>19233061
Finally, I can mix together my /p/ & /ctg/ hobbies

>>19226848
>buy kettle yesterday
>today it goes on sale for $20 less
>kettle already shipped
it's not fair bros

>>19233022
>from a can
did i say that cunt?

>>19233430
Can't get a price adjustment?
Similar thing happened to me when I bought a temp controlled kettle from Amazon. A $15 coupon showed up the day after I bought it and I was able to get a partial refund when I contacted the seller.

>>19231360
This your goffee pet?

>>19221101
Coffee with steak?

>>19234032
no

>>19234032
yes

>>19233061

>>19232195
This is 20, the espresso range.

>>19234245
WHAT THE FUCK

ok yeh throw that chart out.
jesus christ that is so coarse.
thats insane.

>>19234258
I don’t know what to say anon.

Let’s hope I didn’t get a defective unit.

>>19234245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1det-2K8pQ

Also grind ~5 beans instead of the whole dose when dialing grinder settings.

>eat eggs fat fillin flip

>>19234245
That's absolutely fucked

>>19234275
did you zero your grinder first?
also i hope you didnt drink the "coffee" that came from that.

>>19231160 seems unironically finer than >>19234245

>>19234280
I watched the video and I did exactly what the did: 2 full rotations + go to number 4 to start at the finest setting of the moka pot range. Now I’m at 2 full rotations.

>>19234306
The burrs were closed since the beginning, it was zero set by factory.

Went back to moka after making drip for two years or so and I realized how much I missed the taste of the coffee I'd had my whole life.
I've tried all sorts of things during this time, drank coffees I'd never had, experimented with all sorts of preparations, discovered a love for coffee houses around the countries I visited.

But I guess there's no beating the tastes you grew up with.
Maybe if you discover the hobby in your teens or early 20s it's easier to just let go and fully switch to something else forever, but I don't think I'll ever be able to.

>>19234306
I did and it tasted good lol

>>19234355
>it tasted good lol
you have no taste buds
im sorry but its the truth.

people drink shit drip coffee their whole life and say its great and they love coffee but those grounds cant make good coffee.
its just impossible.

>>19234245
i bet the chart is right and you're adjusting it wrong

Bros help.

So I tried to zero again, went back two full rotations and I expected to feel resistance but I was able to go back another 2 full rotations wtf.

The burr look fully closed but I don’t feel resistance, the gear moves and I don’t feel that it stops.

I’m scared to damage the grinder

Best grinder for 2-300usd?
Not for espresso. Care about consistency, static, and noise.

>>19234417
You should feel some resistance, just be gentle, you're not going to damage the burrs by simply touching them.

>>19234443
I felt some resistance and I stopped at the 0 mark, the burr looked fully closed and a bit more on the inside. From there I applied 2,4 rotations so finest moka setting.

Pic related

>>19234245
that's like what I use for cold brew lmao

>>19234453
It looks slightly better than >>19234245, but yeah, something is fucked.

>>19234453
better but not good enough.
need to go finer

>>19234472
Maybe I didn’t zeroe’d it, I don’t know.

Fuck me if there could be one thing that works with me, first the pot and now this. Every single product I buy I end up having malfunctions and severe anxiety…I hate myself so much…

>>19234425
>static
every grinder is zero static if you use rdt

>>19234453
keep going finer until you nail it. try 2.0 now

coffee bros, im out of beans. picking some up in the evening, any recs? last batch was some brazil. i want something else.

>>19234492
Not looking to have to do that.

>>19234584
Looks fine to me, right?

>>19234662
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pdk2RvqLAg
you just wet a table spoon
shake it very lightly like once to make sure its not dripping
and then stir the beans with it in whatever you measured them in
or
use a tiny spray bottle
1 spray
or 1 slightly wet spoon
= ZERO static.
thats how you get zero static.
you can get the worlds most staticy grinder, do rdt, and have no static.

or you can be a baby and have static like a loser bitch
idk seems like a simple choice to me.
especially for someone specifically listing that they want a grinder with no static.

>>19234683
how did the taste?

>>19234683
you can go a bit finer than that.
also if you have a competition filter you can go finer still.

also it looks dry and old.
and too dark.
these are just practice beans right anon?

also when filling it should be level.
over fill(not too much) then scrape off with a flat thing(spoon handle or back of a knife, whatever)
you can also wdt if you prefer more consistency.

>>19234719
Moka with dark beans is the goat. That intense aroma, and those notes of chocolate, its like im in italy

>>19234709
When it was coarse as fuck I liked it and the coffee was sweet with a pleasant aftertaste.
With this setting the coffee had the same aftertaste but it lost a good amount of sweetness (it wasn’t bitter mind), the flavour has become flatter with a hint of acidity.

I think that this is where I want to experiment with the grind size to find the taste I like, right?

Also what do I do with my grinder gear showing 2.0 when it’s in the espresso range according to the chart it came with?

Do I simply need to not give a fuck about that chart?

>>19234719
I don’t have a competition filter but the filter on the Giannina is finer than other pots so I guess I will try going finer and see.

>>19234762
>its like im in italy
italian coffee is trash so yeh if you want traditional shitty italian coffee then you should only use shit dark roasted beans.
you dont want complex flavors or to have a pleasant feeling in your mouth
you want to drink tar and cigarette ash
and thats ok
but only if you stop posting here
you clearly have no love for coffee.
:)

>>19234814
If you want complex flavours, drink tea or wine.

>>19234977
just say you literally dont know anything about coffee and fuck off

>>19234801
>I think that this is where I want to experiment with the grind size to find the taste I like, right?
yes! let your taste buds guide you!

>>19234697
Yes, I'd rather not buy a grinder where they actually took static into account when designing it so I don't have to do the reddit drop technique to grind my coffee.

>>19235059
>Calls random things reddit
>Can't construct a sentence coherently to mean what he's trying to say
>Is too retarded to look at the pastebin
Many such cases

>>19234245
>>19234275
>>19234313
>>19234801
As always, newtards don't know how to handgrinder. We just went through this with another anon a few weeks ago. Adjust completely to "zero", i.e. grinder does not turn any further. 40 clicks per full rotation, 12.5 micron adjustment per click. That chart is just a vague suggestion. Don't get hyperfixated on it. Every coffee is going to grind differently.
>>19235059
Jesus you're dumb.

>>19235059
>using a droplet of water to have zero static
:(
>using jew lasers to reduce static
:)

enjoy your slop.

>>19235084
>>19235094
>>19235092

>Having to add steps because a machine wasn't properly designed
>Defending their consumerist ways of buying poorly designed trash
Many such cases.

>>19235108
Just say you don't know what you're talking about and move on.

>>19235111
>>19235111
>>19235111

>>19233667
I saw your post and sent a message to the seller. Here's hoping but I'm still bummed out :c

>>19234245
My $88 k4 does a better job lol

>>19234610
nguyen truegrit (100% peaberry)

>>19235115
>Have coffee grinders that adequately can prevent static from being an issue
>They're also often more consistent
>N-no, buy this one that can't do that but needs added water, I must consoom

>>19235007
you literally dont know anything about coffee
fuck off

>>19235145
>have $200 budget
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Buy a baratza encore. Its all you deserve.

>>19235165
Fellow Ode 2 it is.

>>19235178
>New deionizer gimmick?
>MUST CONSOOM

>>19235194
>Gimmick
>Same price as many other less capable grinders
>Also gets rid of static and makes workflow that much easier

>>19235206
>DEFEND PRODUCT AT ALL COSTS
>(I'll order it once I'm not poor I swear)

>>19235224
Reply when you have an actual argument.

>>19235178
Great grinder choice. Check the acaia ion beam if you want to pair it with an inferior grinder

>>19235234
>gimmick
>a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business.
Not its not a gimmick its just a device to attract more business. Enjoy your new grinder anon. Think you'll get it this week?

>>19235243
Why does this exist. Just design your shit properly in the first place.

>>19235263
>Just design your shit properly in the first place.
>Ode 1, shitty interlocking burrs that can't grind fine enough for aeropress
>Ode 1.1, retention issues, messy, requires bellows, carrier variance so ssps won't fit in some
>Ode 2, OMG THEY ADDED AN IONIZER FROM A HAIR DRYER

>>19235285
Ode 2 also fixed the retention issue, feeding issue, doesn't need bellows, ionizer fixed static so there isn't a mess issue, and has better burrs.

>>19235293
Did you find all that out from a soytuber's sponsored video?
>Noooo this strain is gen 2 it fixed everything that resulted from them not designing shit properly in the first place

>>19232500
Does no one drink vietnamese coffee here?

>>19235459
Noone drinks cheap robusta.

>>19235459
no
sorry
:(

>>19235463
Ive been hearing they're trying to grow better shit (like switching to arabica), so i was wondering before i go to some random brand and spend 15$ on what could be garbage.

>>19235479
They grow shitty robusta because arabica like higher elevations. Unless they're planning on raising the entire island in the next 10 years, just avoid it.

>>19235502
You never know.

>>19235140
nice, i love vietnamese from the local tea shops. never tried home brewing viet beans. sankyu bely guru flend.

>>19235502
A few do grow arabica, of course im just asking for shit if it was just robusta (ive never had great robusta, and a stamp that says vietnam probably won't change that)
>raising the entire island
more like continent, and doesn't vietnam have a few mountains, or am i mistaken.


Though thanks.

>>19235396
From just about every YouTuber, James included. As well as individual people's experiences.

>>19235903
So after 3 revisions of burrs and 3 revisions of the actual grinder how in the fuck is it
>designed properly in the first place?
You're getting excited over a new gimmick. Buy it if you want it.

>>19235140
I totally missed this one before leaving >>19235459, how good is it?

>>19235903
>individual people's experiences.
You know the guy who designed it uses an ek43 right?

>>19236113
And? Look at the price difference between those two.

>>19236035
Oh no, iterative design that actually changed!

>>19236127
>Having to iterate because a machine wasn't properly designed
>Defending their consumerist ways of buying poorly designed trash
You're excited over a new gimmick shilled by youtubers. Buy it if you want.
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