/ck/ - Food & Cooking

what roasts have the most caramel undertones? light-medium?
I use french press btw thoughever

Is the folding handle on the 1Zpresso grinders good or should I skip it?

>>19115512
kek had a little trouble with your soy latte there?

>>19115512
>that mug
based Community enjoyer

5rd for power to the people

>>19115512
>that mug
explosion deserved for no Wedgwood

>>19115548
It's trash, just an extra point of failure for no benefit.

>>19115512
bug or feature?

>>19115548
It exists to skirt the comandante legal shit. You should avoid paying the upcharge if you can, but the K ultra uses a different(very similar but tweaked) version of the other K burrs. Jmax/JmaxS also use a slightly different burr than the other J but I'm not sure if its just the difference in coating or if they actually did a revision.

>>19115512
>>19115623
Assuming you have two hands, I don't understand how people manage to fuck up the inverted method. Just keep one hand on the bottom part (plunger) and one hand on the top part (either the brew chamber, or you can place the mug upside-down on the top and hold both that and the brew chamber together).

>>19115512
When you guys do this in public, do you feel stupid or embarrassed? Do you clean it up or just leave it for the janny?

>>19115615
>>19115624
Cheers. I was looking at the J-Max as it's on sale for 149$ and didn't feel like the folding handle was worth 10$ more.
Next step will be to upgrade my espresso machine.

>>19115672
Is it like a you're holding it wrong kinda situation?

>>19115512
>>19115623
>>19115705
>>19115672
it's a rite of passage

>>19115705
I've managed to do this twice I think and if I remember correctly, I just forgot to secure the cap in and just plunged the whole thing into the cup . Can't really blame anyone but myself for this one.

>>19115705
sweet!

>>19115699
>The Titanium-coated burr design of J-Max and the Stainless-steel burr design of JX-Pro grinders are different.
>J-Max grinder produces more fine particles compared to JX-Pro grinder
Its still vague but it looks to me like its actually a tweaked design and the Kin K4 is just using a coated version of the JX burr.

I need to rebuild my coffee frogs collection, can you guys post some coffee frogs? Thanks

>>19115672
Doesn't have to be due to the inverted method

Burrtist, why one more rounded and the other more sharp?
Is sharp=finer and therefore right is JX-Pro?

Well, fuck me…I ordered a Giannina 3/1 cups.

>every single part is made of high duty thicc inox steel
>handmade
>mirror finish
>food grade silicone gasket
>basket reducer to make 1 or 3 coffees with the same pot
>10 years warranty
>bayonet locking mechanism

She’s the one bros, it’s like the La Marzocco of moka pots.

>>19115880
Based and Alberto Trabatti pilled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1o_jRyD-ZY

>>19115855
JMax left, Kingrinder k4 right on the first pic. You're highlighting the wrong area. Those grooves just carry coffee into the finishing teeth. You can see the Jmax's finishing teeth are at a much more acute angle.

>>19115512
Today I had my coffee black with some leftover used mate from yesterday mixed with the grounds and some brown sugar mixed in

>>19115730
If I ever get into this I'm doing it in my backyard for a solid month or until I think I've gotten it down well. Will also never do it drunk. These look like a pain to clean up.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>19115912
This the correct highlight?
Angle closer to 0 will grinde finer?
Thx i'll go to sleep less retarded tonight.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>19115954
Think of how your beans are getting ground. Top to bottom. Big prebreaking "cores",smaller breakers, flat finishing teeth. They all affect the grind. I'm looking at those flat triangular finishing teeth at the very bottom. Beans get broken up smaller and smaller by the prebreakers and breakers until they hit those finishing teeth for the final grinding. Adjusting your grinder coarser lowers the whole burr, letting coarser grinds drop out through the grooves. Adjusting finer brings the burr up, closing the gap where coffee exits, making more coffee hit those finishing flats and regrinding until they fall out.

Is this a good grinder for the moka pot?
I need one that is also suitable for espresso when I decide to buy an espresso machine.

1Zpresso JX-Pro S: https://amzn.eu/d/hpOymly

My budget is 160€.

>>19116079
*170€

>>19116079
Yep that'll work fine.

>>19116043
That was my first insight >>19115855 but >>19115912 said it's the wrong area.
Even between the two burrs in >>19115954 the one on the left is more U shaped at the bottom and the one on the right more V shaped.
A V shape would make smaller holes in >>19116043
Or maybe you say it's the angle plus the V shape at the bottom that you look at?
I'm just trying to understand where to look at burrs

>>19116113
Thank you, have a song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=929FqHeKT7E

>>19115623
What a gay set up

What's up with the new Niche grinder... How is it different than the zero?

>>19116192
>estropress
>gay set up
perspicacious

>>19116125
Sorry it looked like you were highlighting the grooves, not the apex. Deeper grooves/different pitch would just affect the feed rate. That little bottom "U" compared to "V" isn't whats doing the cutting, thats the feed into the finishing teeth. I'm not trying to make any judgements on either burr set, I'm just pointing out they're visually similar, but not quite exact. 1zpresso says that difference is creating more fines.

>>19116200
They're completely different grinders. Niche zero uses 63mm mazzer conical burrs off the Kony, Niche Duo comes with two sets of 83mm mazzer flats off the Major/ZM.
https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/mazzer/kony-a
https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/mazzer/major-t

Posted in previous thread that I needed a good grinder and espresso machine, someone mentioned a Gagguino+Zerno Z1 grinder. Do I have to mod the Gagguino for a good shot of espresso and is the Z1 grinder worth it?

>>19116340
Gagguino is the mod, Gaggia Classic is the actual machine.

>Zerno Z1 grinder
that power cord

>>19116340
>>19116363
I mentioned the Z1 because they still had early priced units available at the time. First batch was $999, this second batch that just closed was $1200, and I think the next one goes up to the actual price of $1400. Also the Niche Duo wasn't up for sale yet kek. That should be an option you're looking at as of 12 hours ago. Spend the rest on a gaggia to mod(or a flair 58 if you're actually wanting espresso and not milk drinks).

>>19116343
I have like a $1,500 budget, how much is the Gaggia Classic with the latest greatest mods? I don't want to spend way more on the grinder than the machine and mods. ty

>>19116548
$399 for a Gaggia classic pro from WholeLatteLove, mod it once you want an upgrade. If you want to pair a $1400 espresso machine and $100 grinder, go ahead.

Pressed a good one today, bros.

>>19116588
Are there any grinders in the $300 range that are pretty good for espresso?

>>19116682
Yes, but a $1200 grinder and $300 machine will make much better espresso than a $300 grinder and $1200 machine. It doesn't seem like you've put alot of thought into this. Just buy a breville barista express and pretend its good enough.

>>19116742
Imagine buying the Gaggia Classic and mod it, then run to the supermarket and buy some illy or lavazza espresso grind and its good enough? I'll do that, see how it goes, then I'll look into expensive grinders, there's a recession anon. Thanks for info.

>>19116828
>$1500 budget
>recession
Just buy a moka and run preground illy.

>>19116828
I have a Gaggia classic, so far all I've done is the 9 bar mod (really easy mod, all you have to do is open the top, pull out a tube, switch the spring inside, and put the tube back in. Then I also bought a better portafilter with a better basket. I have a hand grinder and it's already making some good espresso with the beans I'm getting from a local roaster.
My next purchases are the stuff for the gagguino mods (takes a bit to ship from China) and a motorized grinder because it's annoying to hand grind. I was looking into the Niche Zero but I'm still not sure.

>>19116931
Damn, I've been found out. That's what I'm currently using, my machine went bust as I pulled friggin 12k shots over who knows how long, over a decade. It's just so much for a grinder, going to take it slow anon, but the machine and slap on the upgrades as I go along, think of it as going on a journey. Are there any hand crank grinders I can test out and compare grinds with store bought crap?
>>19116948
Nice, going to do the same most likely, and if I'm feeling it, I'll pick up a proper grinder.

>>19116995
See
>>19111830

Test

Are the E&B competition filters (by IMS) for the moka worth it or is it the same using an aeropress filter?
I'd use them in my Giannina once it arrives, also I read that with this moka you can use an even finer grind close to the espresso size, with the standard filter too.

>>19117063
That's metal? You're going to get fines in your coffee.

Trying a new set of beans this week. I think I might need to lower the dose, my right eye keeps twitching

>>19117286
What does this message even mean?

>>19116363
It looks so nice in that picture but I'm sure I'd hate to have it on my counter.

>>19115512
LMAO it came all over your arm

>>19115880
Is the inside easy to clean (unlike the bialetti stainless steel)?

Which method of brewing coffee has the easiest clean up? Aeropress?

mean bean monster energy tastes good<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>19117432
Very

recommend amazon coffee
I live in a shitty apartment and can't get regular mail deliveries

>>19117491
Yes, if you're just doing one cup. Otherwise you'll have to clean double.
French press if you're doing more than one cup.

>>19115594
James is such a milquetoast faggot. But I do respect that youtube is his hustle, and his audience are equally milquetoast faggots, so he does what he needs to.

>>19117491
>>19117601
Are you guys really having trouble cleaning a v60? Throw filter away, rinse, good to go.

>>19117642
>v60
some of us are not hipsters sir

surprise, the inverted "method" is fucking retarded. Just get a pressure activated bottom attachment

You will never be a real espresso machine.

>>19117647

>>19117651
>just buy an attachment that costs as much as the Aeropress itself
Cannot fathom why anyone would waste money on those. Not to mention the fact that you end up pushing coffee through when you insert the plunger even with the pressure activated lids (which is something you'll want to do to reduce heat loss via the open top). So it doesn't actually do the one thing it's supposed to do.

>>19117688
Literally you

>>19117695

>>19117642
Aeropress is still easier to clean, the coffee puck is more compact and pops out more cleanly. Plus an Aeropress produces a good cup every single time since it's pretty lenient, it doesn't require you to do some autistic pouring ritual or faff around with preheating and bloom.

>>19117692
>Not to mention the fact that you end up pushing coffee through when you insert the plunger
yes surely the plunger-less inverted method will solve this.

>>19117709
Yes, it does solve it because you just need to place the cap on the top when you want to close the brew chamber in the inverted method.

>>19117707
Buddy I've seen more than my fair share of filthy aeropresses posted here.
>puck is more compact and pops out more cleanly
Two fingers. Grab filter, toss it in the trash. No mess. No scraping coffee bits off anything.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ka9OJrY6P9k

>>19117731
The person in that video didn't plunge all the way, which is why they needed to scrape off the remainder with their finger.

>>19117759
>Are you struggling with throwing away coffee filters?
>Has your family had enough?
>For just $39.95 you can PLUNGE that mess away!

>>19115880
>La Marzocco of moka pots.
Such a weird concept considering the purpose of moka pots is to be poorfag cope brewers.
It's like having custom leather interior in a yugo.
>It's still a fucking moka pot, no matter how hard you try.

>>19115512
>>19115623
>>19115705
>>19115760
>>19116233
What would compel a person to buy such a device? To do such a thing?

>>19118344
Addiction. It's basically a Coffee Bong

>>19118344
>Not getting a free dose of estrogen with your caffeine
ngmi..

I'm out of coffee lads.

>>19117491
V60 because you don't have to clean it. Or at least I don't.

>>19118473
Get some coffee gals instead

>>19118527
The estropress is no joke.
Be carefull bros.

I found local shop that sells gesha beans in vacuum packed, single serving size. I assume that will preserve the quality better than the usual valve, but for how long?

>>19118632
Beans degas so that vacuum package is going to bloat up fairly quickly unless they're already stale.

>>19117855
>my $80 moka makes coffee as good as his $2000 memespresso machine

Sad!

>>19115512
Honey in coffee good? Been just doing what Ray Peat said with Gelatin + Milk + Sugar but I wanna hear your guys thoughts

>>19118557
WTF? That stupid thing needs filters?
My bialetti musa doesn't need filters. It's zero waste apart from the grounds.
Also, WTF is up with his face? He looks like a potato.

>>19118720
Honestly I don't like honey in coffee. It seems to sink to the bottom and lurk in the lower half of the mug unless you stir the fuck out of the coffee. Especially if you don't densify the mixture by adding cream or milk. Tastes pretty good but you get no honey in most of the mug and then a blast of powerful sugar at the bottom, unless you mix it right.

>>19117855
>>19118641
misconceiving this hard

>>19118742
Moka pots push water up through grounds which is one of the reasons they don't really need fine filters. Plus they're supposed to be strong so people don't mind a few grounds getting through. An aeropress is basically just a french press with better and faster filtration, but a lower capacity. Also you get like 350 of those filters when you buy one and that again in every pack, so they're not a big concern.

Is 176ºF the max?

>>19118811
No. He recommends that temp because he probably used grocery store or otherwise darkly roasted beans, for which yes you should be using about 80C water.

Bros…it’s time.

Chickmagalur Karnataka by LABORATORIO DI TORREFAZIONE GIAMAICA CAFFÈ (Italy)

>The Revelation.
>To the west, the depths of the monsoon forest in southern India produces the coffee we have always waited for: Chickmagalur Karnataka. >It is the cultivation of a single variety of Arabica that the only plantation of the village of Magalùr expresses, for ancient care, at 1100 meters of altitude.
>Hand picked and washed twice.
>Chickmagalùr in the cup expands and goes beyond the boundaries of the sensory universe hitherto known. >It is more than dense in structure and body.
>Persistent cocoa and chocolate. >And it's still cocoa concentrate over the limits of memory.
>This is the gift.

Any disadvantage?

>>19118838
> he probably
So you're not sure?

Does his max temp have anything to do with it being exactly half the plastic's melting point?

>>19118875
He said that he chose that temp because it made the tastiest coffee in his experiments. Not because of the property of the plastic you schizo. Why the fuck would it even matter if you're half way to the melting point or 60% of the way to the melting point?

>>19118878
>Not because of the property of the plastic you schizo.
Stop kvetching. Just asking questions.
Hebrews at 176ºF clearly & if he says it's the tastiest you might want to recalibrate your schizo detection device.

>>19118857
Did you taste it yet? Enjoy the comf mokabro.

>>19118892
Yeah and he also makes tiny shots and thinks an aeropress can make 4 people's worth of coffee. His recipe is retarded.

>>19118892
>Did you taste it yet?

Yes, I tried it with the 3 pot Bialetti.
The smell was nice, there surely is a strong note of cocoa and some citrus, caramel.
The taste is quite acidic with cocoa and sweetness.
I need to experiment with this one, also I can’t wait to receive the Giannina and see what changes with the inox pot over the aluminium one.

https://www.mussolini.net/en/129-ceramiche-e-mug

Ok these are giga based and I want them: https://www.mussolini.net/en/ceramiche-e-mug/26-ceramiche-e-mug-ax17.html

>>19118932
dangerously based

>>19118632
Indefinitely if you toss them in the freezer.

>>19118762
but why does his face look like a potato?

>>19119203
>his
>he doesn't know

>>19119203
He's canadian.

>>19115512
I just bought this affordable baby yesterday, thoughts?

>>19119273
It will probably make coffee

>>19119273
Also what does the "brew strength" button do?

>>19119282
read the instructions nimrod

>>19119304
I'm asking the anon that posted the pic.

>>19119282
Huh, had to read the manual to know what that does

>>19119308
This does not explain what it does

>>19119313
>changes the length of the brewing time

>>19119317
Does it use more water? Does it drip water more slowly? Does it pause half way through? Taking more time can mean many things.

>>19119325
>inb4 what am I a fucking engineer?
Oh, you’re one of those that needs to KNOW know

>>19119325
It's the big boys button.

>>19119330
Imagine if you bought a washing machine and it had an option called "cleaning strength" that didn't tell you what it did and if you set it to bold it would heat the chamber to 200C. That's this coffee maker.

>>19119338
That would be a very impressive washing machine.

>>19119344
Yes but you might be less impressed with it when your clothes came out as cinders.

>>19119338
>he’s not adventurous
NGMI

>>19119347
I'm less impresses with your have to know it all attitude.

>>19118527
Haha imagine owning a cafe and driving the cute baristas almost to tears on the daily making them feel inadequate all the while unapologetically at full mast

>>19119418
Just having a bit of fun imagining, definitely not something id actually do. I wouldnt cum in my pants hands free while berating a girl half my age for shitty microfoam and having her redo it a third time while trembling. Anyway, coffee amirite?

>>19119203
He actually puts coffee in his sugar.

>>19119439
This is worse than mokaposting please stop

>>19119439
Why add the blue detergent?

>>19119439
Jesus that's disgusting.

>>19119439
After blue waffle comes blue coffee

>>19119439
Lmao, fake chocolate

>>19119554
What did he mean by this?

>>19119439
Oh wait.. nevermind the fake unmelting chocolate
>dat chocolate sludge
>dat blue colouring
By Jupiter's Cock! You could have at least mixed the colouring into milk, i dunno. What a mess. I'd rather watch cbt vids. Is this the same specimen from "how many sugars you add to your cola"?

>>19118861
cleaning is annoying

>he doesn't salt his coffee grounds to offset the bitterness

(you)

Mokabrosfratelli, I have a question.
All the big coffee guys told me to put coffee and water in a 1:10 ratio but if I do so with my 3 pot Bialetti I end with using 150 grams of water (this exact dose is at the valve level) but if I add 15 grams of coffee powder then the basket isn’t at full level at all, it looks that there’s room for another 3 grams.
Since other guides tell people to add coffee and level if removing the excess with your finger, where’s the truth? By doing this we’re altering the 1:10 ratio.

>>19119439
ah ah i knew it!
FRICC YOU TORONTO

>>19118720
Honey is lovely
Sugar always kills all the notes of the coffee but honey only takes away the bitterness and leaves the rest, it's great.

Pour one over boys. We lost a legend. Soundtrack to the feels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fp-9HZuemw

>>19119338
I mean, your dryer does the exact same thing.

Do you actually KNOW what the "Bedding" cycle on your dryer does? No. You just know that's what you use when you're drying your comforter.

Who the fuck cares what the "Brew Strength" button is doing? It switches between "regular" and "bold" if that doesn't explain it enough then nothing can help you.

>>19120280
fug

>>19119282
it makes it piss out of its ass more.

>>19120229
I know tea autists use beet sugar. Does that help with coffee?

>>19120298
People have very conflicting definitions of what "stronger" is. Like bold and regular tells you absolutely fuck all about how the coffee is going to come out. Knowing what it actually does would tell you something at least.

>>19118992
>>19118640
I am thinking of buying one or two packs and brew them like personal champagne toast. Well, thanks for the heads up.

>love me some Greek coffee
>found a small shop nearby that sells loumidis grounds
>stomach is wrecked for the entire day after drinking a cup
Never had this happen before. Did I mess up the brew, or should I assume something is wrong with the coffee?

>>19120820
If coffee gives you stomach problems and acidity then it’s either burned (giga dark roasted) or it’s made with trash quality robusta (and burned too).

I buy ground coffee and put it in my drip coffee machine. How mad did I just make you?

ignore him.

>>19120229
>>19118745
Tried it, it's pretty nice, but as >>19118745 said, it's a horrible fucking process I had to fucking shove a spoon mid way steaming my milk and just spilling the shit all over my socks, not good, but after all of that shit it works.

>>19120909
Wherever there's bait, I must reply.

I wish they sold mr coffee machines in Australia. Pic related is pretty much our only option for simple drip coffee and it’s $80

I don't own a kettle and want to buy a v60 of some sort, maybe a Chemex. What's a good electric temperature controlled goose neck kettle for pour over but also still good for general use?

>>19121076
chemex isn't v60
chemex is chemex.
v60 is v60.

>>19120959
>simple drip coffee
why even bother drinking coffee at this point?

>>19120959
I don't know how good or bad this is; I really rate my Breville Precision Brewer and obviously that's a pricier machine but I'd want to believe that they wouldn't completely trash their brand with something that's outwardly shit at the other end of the budget spectrum. Anyway, it has a timer function which is something I think is actually pretty ace when you're waking up earlier than you normally do and have a compressed amount of time the next day - it's obviously not as good as grinding fresh but fuck waking up to the smell of coffee through the house is a pretty nice thing.

>>19121106
Ah shit. Well my question still stands I need a kettle.

>>19118557
>Pushing your coffee though bleached paper
No

How do you tell the difference between shit coffee beans, poorly-brewed coffee and coffee that simply isn't to your taste?

>>19121113
as always, consult the hoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbel051H7-s

>>19121151
Thanks yeah I watched that too, I was poking around for more opinions or recommendations in case any anons had some insight.

>>19121156
I use my stagg ekg for everything. Expensive, but you've got decent customer support and replacement part availability if anything goes south.

>>19121150
>learn about coffee and where and how to buy high quality coffee beans
>brew alot of coffee (usually copy someone else's technique and copy the tools they use)
>taste a lot of coffee,( buy high quality coffee of all different roast levels from different regions and farms within every coffee growing country. the only way to know what you like is to taste as many different beans as you can and start to develop your own pallet)
also keep in mind that maybe you just dont like that brewing method.
so dont go all in in say espresso. a high quality grinder is much better value than say a $5k espresso machine if you dont KNOW if you actually like espresso the best. so get a great grinder and try all the other much much much cheaper brewing methods.

>>19121166
I really loved the aesthetics of it despite the price although I was concerned about the slower flow rate if I wanted to use it for something other than pour over. It's on my list for sure. Thanks anon.

>>19121176
just have 2 kettles :)

>>19121176
Pours a little slow for some teas but its nbd

>>19115512
>>19115730
How does this even happen to anyone not being an absolute retard?

>>19121423
people that aren't absolute retards don't tend to buy plastic coffee extrusion tubes

What should I do if I only occasionally want a caffè latte but otherwise don't consume espresso? I don't have a lot of cash to spend on it (already have a good hand grinder), would it be better to fudge it with an aeropress or get a dirt cheap espresso machine, I just want to do a better job than my local shitty cafe that charges too much.

>>19121643
Just get an aeropress

>>19121643
https://youtu.be/ZgIVfU0xBjA

>>19121643
Actually perfect scenario for a refurb flair and nanofoamer if you're willing to spend a little bit. Everything packs down into a case so its not going to eat up counter space if you're only using it occasionally.
https://flairespresso.com/products/espresso-makers/refurbished/

>>19121643
Dont get a flair, if you dont drink espresso you wont care enough to bring it out, preheat and clean everything up afterwards enough times to build muscle memory for good espresso. Hand crankin is more difficult than a machine and is only rewarding if you are autistic enough about it. Unironically pick your latte up from a cafe when you crave it

>>19121643
>already have a good hand grinder
what is it

>>19121643
>fudge it with an aeropress or get a dirt cheap espresso machine
why not a moka pot?

>>19121737
>Unironically pick your latte up from a cafe when you crave it
>cafe
just say you dont like coffee and leave.

>>19121760
moka is too complex for the normie brain.

>>19121760
NTA but I have all different coffee gadgets and I cant into the moka pot. I tried to follow all the autism like wired gourmet and other youtube recipes. Its always sour and bitter at the same time. I think its because of the ratio, as >>19119880 discovered. I always enjoy the espresso more. Is this a fact of life or should I give the moka pot another chance?

>>19121762
A latte is like 7% coffee, just say youdont like coffee and go

>>19121775
i dont drink lattes.
but if i did i would never go to a "cafe" to consume one.
the fact that thats even an option in your brain is pretty telling.

>>19121794
>i dont drink lattes
Ok then why should anyone take your advice on the subject?

>>19121796
>hey guys how should i go about making burgers at home?
>dont make it at home, instead go to McDonalds when you crave burgers
>if you care about burgers you should always make them at home
>lol burgers are trash
>i dont eat burgers but i know a home cooked burger is better than anything from McDonalds
>you dont consume burgers so everything you say about burgers is wrong and stupid
kill yourself.

>>19121837
You're genuinely fucking retarded like all the posers who act like they're hardcore for not drinking milk drinks.

>>19121837
Why did you equate a general term like cafe to a specifically low quality one like mcdonalds? Wouldnt restaurant be more accurate? Then your metaphor becomes more nuanced: A restaurant is a good idea if you want a burger but cant be arsed to cook. Maybe you should just stop posting in blind rage and think first

>>19121889
>Why did you equate a general term like cafe to a specifically low quality one like mcdonalds?
because 99.9% of all cafes on earth make bad coffee
>blind rage
clearly you have never interacted with a human before if you think my replies would in any universe be considered "blind rage"
>>19121857
please point to where i said anything about not drinking milk drinks? or that drinking milk drinks is for losers or something?
i have a fantastic time making and drinking my cortado for lunch every day, my point was that coffee made at home even by an amature is better than any coffee or coffee based drink in any cafe that this person would have access to in the moment of their craving for a latte.

>>19121969
>>19121837
>kill yourself
>not typing though tears of blind rage
Pick one (silently, dont reply again)

Can I get a rubber gasket? I actually prefer it.

Also, this thing costs more than an actual espresso machine, right?

>>19116079
Is any cheaper grinder for the same moka and eventually espresso use case worth looking at?

For me? Its whatever as long as it kicks

>>19119439
ABSOLUTE UNIT

>>19119439
oppss

>>19115512
I buy pod coffee
no mess
no fuss
none of that bullshit

>>19115705
>>19115623
>>19115760
>>19116233
>>19118419
>>19118557
what a load of shit.

>>19122202
No good coffee either

Time for my afternoon cortado bros.

>>19121973
>she thinks "kill yourself" has any actual meaning at all in 2023
the absolute state of /ck/ these days.

>>19122018
Kingrinder k4. Functionally identical, half the price.

>>19115800
>>19115855
>>19115912
>>19115954
>>19116043
>>19116079
none of this is going to make a noticeable difference in how your coffee tastes

>>19122908
Just keep telling yourself that.

>>19121765
Too complex for the Italians too.

>>19121772
>Its always sour and bitter at the same time

This FFS, I have the same problem.

I tried 3 very different coffees and they always taste the same wtf, I don't understand.

However I'm waiting to try with a stainless moka (just ordered) because maybe it's bialetti's fault for using trash third world aluminium on their last pots, it can alter the coffee flavor while stainless steel won't.

Time for my evening decaf latte bros.

>>19115623
>lay plunger upside down so the rubber section is facing upwards and the pressing end is acting as the base
>insert the cylinder over the rubber section, forming a container
>load in coffee grounds, fill with water to almost the brim
>place filter in the porous cap, Invert, and screw onto the end of the cylinder
>flip the entire thing upside down and place over an empty mug
I've never had this exploding issue before. My only challenge is that sometimes the filter falls out of the cap before I'm able to screw it on. Also i guess my mug once shattered while I was pressing but that's not exactly a failure on the aeropress.
>

I wanted to buy myself a coffee machine but im alone, I guess it would be kind of stupid to buy some expensive toy like that just for myself, also it would be an additional problem when changing a house since I dont own one and im still renting, so im alone and dont own anything and I want to FUCKING DIE

>>19123167
If you mean an espresso machine you can buy that just for yourself too, but espresso is an expensive and fiddly hobby.

>>19122908
Obviously, its just the one rude hifi grade autist. Dont acknowledge him

>>19122908
>noticeable difference in how your coffee tastes
Eat a fruit after your sip, your coffe will taste fruity.
I'm enjoying some Pineberry these days

>>19118557
>pouring boiling water into a plastic jug and then forcing it through a plastic, bleached piece of industrial paper

Just drink coffee guys don't do this to yourselves

>>19123386
>plastic paper

>>19123294
Is Hario skerton good?

>>19123414
Upgraded to Porlex mini.

>>19123389
do you think that they're only using wood fibers in your paper products? do you think receipts are just 'paper'?

>>19123414
>>19123432
Porlex and especially the hario skerton are trash. I'm not a massive grinder autist but shit like the kingrinder k4 and k6 is a substantial upgrade from those two. I started off with a hario slim and it was such garbage that I upgraded to something better almost immediately. If you don't want to get a k4 or k6 at least get one of the lower end kingrinders, I think they cost about as much as a skerton or porlex except they're much higher quality. Those two are outdated even as low end grinders.

>>19123437
>some paper has plastic so all paper has plastic
I hope you don't drink water because some water has arsenic in it.

>>19119439
it's MA'AM

>>19123445
my water doesn't because I have a $6,000 reverse osmosis system in my home pipes

yuor move, ratard

>>19123445
>>19123437
Mate i literally shit in water. Take care.

>>19123443
Peugot any good? I've heard they make some nice cars.

>>19123462
As decoration? Yes. As grinders? No.

>>19123459
>I have a $6,000 reverse osmosis system in my home pipes
Bro that's the Hario skerton of home reverse osmosis.

Looked at the pastebin but couldn't easily find an answer for my situation. Years ago I tried K-Cups for a couple weeks, they were terrible, so I got a cheap $20 Mr. Coffee machine instead and have been using that ever since. I used some creamer for awhile but now I just drink it black, it doesn't taste good or exciting but I need the morning boost. I know pre-ground coffee in general sucks, but it's quiet, convenient and low-prep, that's the main appeal of it for me. I don't want to grind beans every morning; that is tedious and loud, and I don't want to wake up my SO.

What's the method I should switch to in order to have optimal tasting coffee in the morning while also being low-effort and quiet?

>>19123414
It doesnt matter so much. What will affect the taste of your covfefe is a sumatran tea cup, or a double walled espresso glass with fins

r>>19118557
People actually use the stirrer? The churn of the water as it's poured in is more than adequate to kick up the grounds. And whatever is leftover gets agitated further when you flip the thing over on top of your mug.

>>19117777
Chexjed

>>19123473
A popular low effort method is cold brew. Although you do need to prepare it in advance, like the night before. Also I'm not sure how small your house/apartment is but I doubt grinding would be loud enough to wake your partner up. Well hand grinding anyway, a loud whirring electric motor is a different story.

>>19123478
Nice meme

>>19123473
Folgers freeze dried coffee, do about 2oz less water than they ask for, make sure the water is at least filtered and pour some milk and maple syrup in there to finish. Folgers is quite drinkable and extremely convenient.

>>19123469
but with the folding handle

>>19123500
I tried that once but it was terrible, pretty sure it was my fault though and I only tried it with the ground coffee I already had since I have no grinder. I've never had a proper cold brew from anywhere so I'm not sure if I even like it, but maybe this is worth attempting again.

>>19123506
Isn't that like instant coffee? I've had that in some hotel rooms. Underwhelming but maybe less water does make it better. Milk and maple syrup though? Is that something people actually do?

>>19123535
Milk yes, maple syrup is some degenerate shit that anon is trying to pawn off on you, don't fall for it.

>>19123549
>he doesn't prefer a better sweetener
Sad!

>>19123558
Milk is as sweet as you should go for coffee. People that just dump sugar or sugar alternatives into it make dogshit coffee and should be ashamed of themselves and maybe not be allowed to vote.

>>19123561
>waaaaah you have to like coffee the way I like my coffee waaaaah
fuck off you poser, my raw milk and local maple syrup make my good tasting coffee taste even better

>>19123575
Your coffee tastes like shit and you're putting tree sludge into it to make it bearable.

>>19123581
How do you know what my coffee tastes like? You drinking my piss? Becuase I pee a lot when I drink coffee

>>19123581
What maakes maple syrup sludge and coffee (another plant) so pureand perfect? Maybe you are just small minded and hyperfixated due to your neurological disorders. There are toms of painfree options if you wanted out, just saying

Please help me with the sour coffee from the moka pot.

I did everything the Hoffman and countless other people said, including this heavily respected Italian roaster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Iap7jVSjCE

The coffee from my Bialetti is extracted slowly, with the lowest flame possible, I don't make the moka gurgle and it looks good as it gets, but the taste is off because it's both acidic and weak as fuck, it tastes nothing at all what it's supposed to taste like.

It's a medium roast, ground coffee, super fresh so it's not stale. The previous coffee I made with the moka tasted the same despite having a different profile, so it has to be either the moka or something I don't know, maybe aliens.

Is 100% arabica supposed to be acidic?

What bothers me the most is the weakness, the lack of body and strenght, the acidic profile I can live with but shit this is not the coffee I used to drink from the moka pot. I'm Italian, I can't fucking fail at this, otherwise I'm going to KYS.

>>19123603
What kind of water are you using

>>19123596
Just say you don't know what you're talking about and move on.

>>19123603
It's the grind, it's too coarse. Grind finer until you hit the sweet spot between bitter and sour

>>19122908
>none of this is going to make a noticeable difference in how your coffee tastes
yep, preground in a mr coffee tastes exactly the same as fresh from a mid level burr grinder, don't waste any more of your time itt, just close the tab and never come back

>>19123603
>heavily respected Italian roaster
Kek. Low tier bait.

Idk why but my beds are a lot messier at lower quantities. I guess I'm agitating it too quickly/pouring too fast?

>>19123603
Coffee can be acidic (this depends on many factors but mostly the kind of bean) yes but you can counteract it somewhat with your method. The acidic compounds are extracted early and if you also say you have a weak brew I would start by grinding finer and making sure you run the full pots worth of water (sans the last drops of ) through the grounds. But even when perfected, moka is bretty shiddy, ngl

>>19123609
You dont know what youre talking about. Move on

>>19123629
lmao

>>19123620
Looks fine to me, pretty coarse grind there under those fines but see no issues with the bed

>>19123386
>>19123437
>do you think receipts are just 'paper
thermal paper is coated with something that changes color when heated. this specifically is not a concern with normal filter paper (non-recycled), bleached or not
I believe some pfas (xenoestrogens) from the paper production process are a concern as with any paper, but you'd also need to stop using toilet paper to avoid them

>>19123643
I wipe with my bare hand and shower off afterwards. 90+% of receipts leech BPA, it's not the normie microplastics I'm worried about.

>>19123620
Just keep your water level low.

>>19123581
Youre the bozo that doesnt drink milk drinks but is an expert on milk drinks huh? Same sitch with the syrup I see

>>19123668
Idk why doofus haters (manlets who make coffee a major component of their personality) are so against adding good components to their beverages. Coffee can be good. Milk can be good. The two together cannot be bad.

>>19123668
I never said anything against milk you schizophrenic

>>19123606
Filtered tap water.
I can try using bottled water next time.

>>19123611
I don’t have a grinder right now, I’m eyeing a 1zpresso J pro that I will buy in the near future.

>>19123625
Ok thanks.

Would aeropress filters slow down the extraction and help me a bit? For 10€ 350 pieces I can try.

First for roasting coffee on the stove in cast iron

This nibblers frying beans

>>19123167
watch these :)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0kQ5WqjcU8
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HIGdYy5of4
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avM-XsaTBIc
also this one is expensive but is extremely mobile and is very easy to move into any home you will rent or will even be useful if you become homeless :)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcZMGx15QBU
also check out the pastebin for manual grinders, also someone can post the hand grinder comparison chart :)

>>19123473
>I need the morning boost
take caffeine pills, they contain more caffeine than you can consume just from coffee or even energy drinks and dont come with any of the other effects of those 2 drinks.
it is also cheaper than coffee.
take the pills and make some other drink that you actually enjoy because you clearly dont like coffee and you dont even care about coffee, you just need the drug that coffee contains. :)

>>19123603
>heavily respected Italian roaster
italians have literally no idea how to make good coffee, they are incapable.
also that video is fucking retarded.
>ground coffee
as in pre ground or you just ground it yourself right before brewing?
>I'm Italian
oh, well im sorry but its terminal.
try getting a non italian to make coffee for you instead.

>>19123625
>moka is bretty shiddy, ngl
skill issue.

>>19123938
>no picopresso
ngmi homless

>>19123977
Not the guy you quote but kill yourself, dumb animal.
Italian coffee can be good to fantastic, maybe try good coffee rather than drinking store bought cheap shit.

>>19123620
too coarse.
over swirled.
swirled too fast.

>>19123987
>Italian coffee can be good to fantastic
sorry giuseppe but my coffee is better than your "coffee"
everything i have ever seen and experienced of italian "coffee" points to them being literally incapable of making good coffee
>no idea how to actually roast beans
>no idea what a good bean even looks/smells/tastes like
>no idea how to make good coffee with a moka pot even though they literally invented it
>no idea how to make actually good espresso even though they literally invented it

>19124015
(You)

>>19124015
Let me guess, you’re one of the people who advocates for the superiority of the New York pizza over traditional Neapolitan pizza, aren’t you?

>>19124038
italians are incapable of making good food.
everything they have ever made has been perfected by other races.
really great ideas. revolutionary ideas.
but just absolutely dogshit execution.
they are like a paralysed savant.

Recently started drinking coffee. Tried french roast to start with some heavy cream. Just yesterday that bag of beans ran out so I bought a bag of "breakfast blend", it's nicer. I prefer it. Less bitterness, very good.

>>19115568
wtf is wrong with soy lattes bitch

>be Starbucks cuck
>fall for the /ctg/ meme
>get all the stupid gadgets
>measure everything
>get expensive roasts
>coffee still tastes like shit
How can I learn to appreciate it and discern between flavor profiles?

>>19124176
You could try killing yourself

>>19124065
>city roast/french roast/italian roast
all of these = burnt to a crisp
never buy these if you like coffee.

>>19124176
https://blog.chefworks.com/uniforms/simple-ways-to-improve-your-palate/

>>19124176
Just buy a couple different bags of beans and drink a different one each day rotating through them. Simple as

>>19124176
>get all the stupid gadgets
>measure everything
did you consider going to a couple nice cafes and trying a few different cups of specialty coffee to see if you like it, before spending ~$150?
you should try comparative testing. if you have steady technique. brew 2 cups of the same coffee different ways, or 2 different coffees the same way, and taste back and forth (swishing with water between them)

>>19123640
Whoops, I should have had that coffee before making the post. That pic was the big batch (500ml). My smaller ones (250ml) look something like this.

It's pretty coarse since these were Ethiopian beans and I didn't want them to cause stalling.

>>19123652
I gave it a try and it does look a bit better

>>19123988
I guess I don't have a good gauge of "gentle swirl"

>>19124176
stick with the closest to best tasting and focus on ur technique

Are there any actually good thermos/mugs that can keep coffee hot for at least 8 hours without impacting the flavor? I got a Zojirushi mug that can keep coffee hot for like 16 hours but it completely ruins the coffee by making it smell and taste like silicone.

>>19124677
no

>>19124705
I didn't think so. I just need to get promoted and get my own office so that I can brew pourover on my desk. No point in trying to bring any with me, it's never the same.

>>19124677
I have a metal Zojirushi thermos and any coffee I put in them tastes great, do they not sell those anymore?

>>19124541
Keeping a lower water level also helps extraction via a hotter slurry temp. If your water is pooling up high it just has more time to lose temp to your brewer and the air.

>>19124732
It's this one but the smaller 330mL size. Stainless steel on the inside but the silicone gasket on the lid makes everything taste and smell fucking disgusting.

>>19124742
i dont believe anyone who actually enjoys using a thermos is human.
when i was younger because the winters where i live are extremely cold my mother decided to send me hot meals to have for lunch in a thermos.
great idea except whatever came out of the thermos was fucking revolting.
didnt matter how long it spent in there or what was put in there, anything that came out was inedible as far as im concerned.
over the years she tried to find the best thermos she could buy(she never gives up on an idea), but no matter what brand or inside coating or design, it always was disgusting.
even just normal cold water.
the same goes for metal water bottles that people use. i just can't understand how you can drink that water.
it smells and tastes like shit.

>>19124788
i've used stainless steel water bottles at work for years and once for good habit i cleaned it with vinegar and the vinegar smell stayed for like 2 weeks. despite being stainless steel the material definitely does absorb flavors and in your case i bet the lid contributed. pretty happy with my fancy water bottles i use for work now but i dump them and leave them in the drying rack daily and low key wretch to myself when i see coworkers leaving the same bottle sitting around for weeks.

>>19124788
I read once that as you probably know 10% of the population are "super tasters" and have a higher concentration of taste buds than average. But what I didn't know what that potentially 20-30% of people are the opposite and have a significantly reduced concentration of taste buds. I have a feeling that regular thermos users must be a part of these less-tasters.

>>19124742
Ok I have a different one. I've never tasted any thing funny coming off of mine, that sucks.

>>19122914
>>19123610
you retards spend more time shilling burrs and grinders than beans

>>19125129
You must learn to crawl before you can walk.

>>19124541
Just as a voice of reason here: Your bed looks OK, nothing to worry about. The anon who thinks he can see the force of your swirl from your pic is not worth taking into consideration, he is either deluded or trolling. And >>19124736 might be the same anon because that is equally wrong. A larger volume will hold higher temp for longer, this is first year thermodynamics and he may have not finished elementary school so be wary. You dont have to take my word for that, look up for example Lance Hedricks v60 method he will explain this with more words

>he thinks that pointing out overswirling is "trolling"
Look at those longitudinal striations. Look at how he melts when you point them out.

>>19125343
>A larger volume will hold higher temp for longer
This is why you keep your water in the kettle until necessary retard.

>>19124541
Additionally, when you are brewing a bean that produces a lot of fines, going coarser wont actually help that much. Misaligned or cheap burrs will still produce the fines, so you get too quick flow through your actual grounds and stalling because of the fines. To eliminate stalling for difficult beans or if you have a grinder that just isnt that good: Dont swirl. Instead, grind a bit finer than your pic, do a long bloom and then pour your entire volume (slowly, 6 g/sec) and let it draw down

>>19125156
You must learn to think before you post.

>>19125390
>Buy this specific roast of this specific harvest of this specific crop with this specific processing method from this specific producer from this specific region of this specific country
Anon how do I grind the beans and whats Worka Sakaro?

>anon when you triple reply to every post with burr autism spam, it degrades the thread
>hurr durr heres more burr autism
He wont change anon, valiant effort though

>>19125413
I honestly think they're just poorly disguised shills or something.

>burr autism
>BUT LANCE HEDRICK SAYS
You can't have it both ways.

>>19125423
Whych are the two ways he cant have it? You arent making a lot of sense with your posts. Try using more words to describe your feelings, what are you upset about? Is it even coffee related?

>>19125343
>he is either deluded or trolling.
how did you know...

>>19123625
The Hoff says to run less water for darker roasts, tgis has made the most difference to me.

>>19124106
An awfully large proportion of the people that order them are women and weak men. There would seem to be an overlap between those groups of people and someone unable to operate an Aeropress.

this washed colombian is weird.
very woody and... phosphorus
like sucking on a match sticks while breathing in the smoke of a recently put out match.
also
some kind of seed oil or seed sauce, reminds me of korean food.
and touch of dried seaweed

i can't understand why washed even exists, the flavor profile is just so fucking shallow.

>>19124788
>>19124822
This is why I strictly use my thermos for water and water only. Sometimes running a bit of bleach through a patinated bottle will kill the zombie flavor, but then things taste slightly like bleach afterwards. It's just never worth it

>>19126021
i triple filter my water and clean my bottle every night, and my bottle has a double filter in it.
if my water has any taste of any kind i can't drink it.
i take it with me everywhere, even if i run out and buy bottled water it will pour it into my bottle so the bottle can filter it twice before i ingest it.
i live on a mountain and there is a fresh water spring that comes right out of the rock and i have tested it and its perfectly clean but i cant stand drinking it because it is so full of minerals that it just tastes like if you put a bunch of rocks in your water bottle.
i also used to drink reverse osmosis filtered water but re adding the missing minerals was annoying so i just opted for a multi stage filtering process that kept most of the minerals.

>>19115512
Troy and Abed spilling coffee!

Made some banana bread yesterday, goes decently well with my morning coffee.

>do the hoffman slurp for shits and giggles
>aromatic explosion, brand new flavors
Huh

>>19126271
>he wasn't slurping
bruh

New thread
>>19126281

I didn't feel like making an espresso today, so I am drinking my Gesha beans I made in my moka pot.
It's good.

>>19123603
>super fresh so it's not stale
>>19123716
>I don’t have a grinder right now
lol

>>19125129
if someone says they want a nice steak but only have a toaster oven, you're not gonna start your advice with which cuts of meat to buy
I get coffee from a local roaster. I don't want to post where I live, and the odds of someone else ordering it are pretty low, so they can't really discuss it or get anything out of it. most grinders are equally available worldwide, and are something actionable you can do to improve your coffee and avoid lurking variables that affect your brewing. most people who want an answer to "how do I brew better coffee" and already know brew methods and how to adjust technique are best served by being told to get a better grinder

recommend good beans bitches
is onyx still the GOAT?

>>19126825
>recommend good beans bitches
Lavazza Rossa.
>is onyx still the GOAT?
Of course.
Slam, da duh duh, da duh duh
Let the boys be boys
Slam, da duh duh, da duh duh
Make noise b-boys

Is it ok to use beans only 24 hours after they were roasted?

Is it ok to use beans?