/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I bought a handheld ceramic burr grinder for $3 from one of those amazon returns resellers, that's a far better use of your money than whatever this shit is.
Actually, everything related to coffee on amazon has doubled or even tripled in price within the last 4 years because reddit wouldn't shut the FUCK up about grinding whole bean coffee at home.

>>18998998
>$200
>to do the same thing as a $5 rock
ishygddt

why do you need to grind?

t. instant coffee enjoyer for past 10 years

>>18999000
It is $99 on amazon and people say that it is like end game most of the time.

>>18999001
Bruh

I wish they actually made electric burr grinders that weren't entirely made to grind themselves to bits within a year through the use of plastic gearing and nuts that become wobbly and make the grind size imprecise, even $300 to $400 electric burr grinders are like this

>>18999001
Coffee tastes better when you grind it shortly before brewing, whole bean lasts 3 weeks without going stale after you open the bag assuming you keep it in an airtight container.
Pre-ground coffee lasts 5 days at the most under the same conditions, it has far more surface area to react with oxygen.
Instant is swill, you drink it if you treat coffee like nothing more than a caffeine delivery method.

>>18998998
>developing an addiction to caffeine

Being naturally caffeinated has saved me thousands on a crop that'll become scarce in the coming decades.

>>18999005
Coffee is good.

>>18999006
It smells good. I'll give you that.

>>18999007
Tastes good too, but I don't know what shit you consume so wtv.

>>18998998
I had a hario hand grinder but it was so inconsistent I may as well have used a $5 blade grinder. Burrs don't mean shit if it's poorly made.

>>18998998
My gf has one but she's also a huge snob with a $2000 espresso maker.

>>18999010
I have a hard time imagining your gf isn't male.

>>18998998
My chink porlex mini make a same coffee fo whatever fancy grinder in your pic

>>18999010
The K4 is the best of the brand for espresso. K6 is like an all-rounder.

Is your grinder in the museum of modern art?

If you put any more thought into your coffee than what size to ask for at the timmies, you might be a gigantic fuckin tranny queerdo, fr fr.

>>18999014
Isn't this a blade grinder?

>>18999016
yes, they suck major ass because it's just a scaled down blender, they chop up the beans unevenly, leaving both gigantic boulders and ultrafine coffee dust and this leads to both underextraction and overextraction, basically bitter coffee in both instances.

>hand grinder
I fell for this meme and one day realized you don't need a busted arm and 30 minutes to grind coffee beans. Now I have an oxo burr grinder and just can't seem to stop winning.

>>18998998

This is fine for a pour-over or similar, but for espresso, nah.

I have a Niche Zero, paired with my Decent Espresso DE1Pro.

>>18998998
you can buy paper dirt cheap fold some beans up in it and punch the wadded paper, far more cost-effective op

>>18998998
>$160 hand grinder
Hario Skerton is $30 and produces good enough grind for Aeropress. Can be modified for pour over easily. Small hand grinders are always going to have bad precision. If you're going to put money into it, go electric or counter mounted.

For me it's hand grinder, french press and kettle to boil water. Let me guess, you need less?

I bought some electric grinder for like $10 and it works well enough

>>18999004
>bruh just follow these 24 steps to get slightly tastier coffee
No thanks, I'll stick to instant, spit it, and drink water instead (or cinnamon chocolate)

>>18999024
>these 24 steps
grind the coffee
boil some water
put hot water into your ground coffee
Wow, that was really hard

>>18999022
whod want to waste time and energy to grind coffee in the morning?

>>18999019
People say that it is Ok for espresso but K4 is better.

>>18999026
yeah just get an electric burr grinder and electric kettle. french press or aeropress are the final say in simple coffee techniques

>>18999021
>$160 hand grinder

Lol, it is $99 on amazon, and they have cheaper options like K1 for $30.

>>18999004
I am an American man, I don’t notice stale coffee. Onions drinking latte having homosexual.

>>18999026
me, I use my hand grinder while also doing other thing like looking at my laptop screen or keeping tabs on my breakfast on the stove at 6am or boiling my water for my coffee. It only takes like 2 minutes or so.

>>18999010
I'd be looking for a new gf if i were you.

>>18999026
what's the rush?

>>18999025
Put the coffee in cold water instead and then boil it. Watch it because it wants to boil over fast. Then let the coffee sink for maybe 5-10 minutes. Enjoy.

I don't buy shit grinders

>>18998998
just drink instant coffee you're ngmi if you're grinding beans

>>18999028
Those are also a shit ton of effort

I buy coffee grounds. From Dunkin' Donuts.

I don't believe that /g/ consumes shit coffee.

>>18999025
>put instant coffee powder
>pour hot water and stir briefly
literally quicker than you molesting the coffee beans lmao

>>18998998
>not ceramic
what are you poor?

>>18999041
Ceramic is worse than steel.

>>18998998
timemore c3, it grinds really really fast

just buy a jura

>>18999037
no they're not
burr grinders are piss easy, both presses are just "throw coffee and water in, press to finish, and an electric kettle is easier than a retarded one

>>18999045
Cleaning the french press alone is like 10x the effort of just using instant coffee

>>18999046
run water through it
all there is
just water
you live in california or something? do they not have water where you're from? do you wash dishes with dasani?

>>18999046
I just throw my v60 filter in the trash, and I'm done.

>>18999047
That's too much effort

>>91842678
>niggers feeding niggers

Oh am I supposed to be impressed?

>>18999030
You sure come off as a fag.

>>18998999
How do you find return resellers

>>18999024
>slightly tastier
More like 5x tastier.
Instant is okay but that's all it will ever be, it's mediocre.

>>18999052
try amazon bin stores, or swap meet vendors selling amazon returns

>this nigga grinding beans

>>18999002
>end game coffee grinder
you're a dumb bugman faggot if you buy into this shit. ohhh i can really taste the floral notes in this arabica it's so smooooth fuck off

You might be confused by the hostile nature of these replies in relation to coffee, americans have this preconceived notion that black coffee has to taste bitter and it's not possible to have any flavor other than burnt or bitter in coffee, so they'll balk at any claims that coffee could taste or smell nutty, earthy, savory, cocoa-ey or floral or any number of complex flavors, calling you a fag in the process.

>>18999056
Kek this
Bought a 3 dollar electric grinder at a flea market and it grinds them perfectly with 0 effort on my part

Why argue about what grinders better? Theyre all chink made shit. I got an alpaca hand grind recently that does a good job, but I also make cold brew so i dont care about the cut quality much.

>>18999059
>alpaca hand grind
It is just a rebranded Timemore C2/C3.

Let me guess, you need more?

>>18999017
>telling everyone you're both too lazy -and- too stupid to shake the grinder while pulsing the button
I know that's only a bandaid, imperfect.
But still, applying some technique to a cheap blade grinder makes it actually function for french presses,
And it only takes 5-7 seconds.

I did get a manual grinder, reluctantly, but only because as other anon said there's no fucking burr machine with all metal parts on precision bearings.
Also,
>eating plastic with your coffee
lol, lao mao even.

>>18999029
Ok, you do you Chang. Just spending >$50 on a hand grinder strikes me as really dumb.

>>18999063
That's why German grinders are better.

>>18999043
I have a C3 max and I can grind 30g in like 20 seconds. It's amazing.

>>18999043
>grinds really really fast
It gets hot and that's not good

>>18999066
Source?

how is it any better than a cheap aliexpress one?

is coffee snobbery the new reddit trend
its becoming as insufferable as mechanical keyboards, vintage denim and AMP/DACS

>>18999060
Looks like you are right, but its also ~$20 cheaper so still happy with the purchase.

>>18999069
it's been a reddit trend for at least 5 years, about the same amount of time as DE razor snobbery.

>>18999067
basic newtonian physics, same principle as milling wheat

>>18999069
There's a cancerous coffee general on /ck/ now, it's just as bad, and probably why that board is totally taken over by antiwhites. /ck/ mods create antiwhite threads, ban anyone who calls them out for it, and ban anyone who remake the thread and replaces "white" with other races.

>>18999071
its strange how all the new reddit trends revolve around consuming expensive products

>>18999069
You should try going to a good cafeteria in your town.

>>18999004
Stop being such a heterosexual and just buy this, you little faggot

>>18999073
this hobby seems to be a white male soiboi thing though

>>18999075
Coffee is not expensive. I spend at most $40/month with good coffee.

>>18999067
A quick search gives this
"In theory, manual coffee grinders should produce slightly better tasting coffee than automatic grinders , because manual grinders don’t heat up coffee beans during grinding. Most automatic grinders grind at high speeds, and the friction slightly increases the coffee’s temperature for a short time."
https://www.coffeenerd.blog/how-long-does-it-take-to-manual-grind-coffee/
There are probably better sources though.

>>18999069
The only thing in that image that matters is letting the grounds bloom. Reddit doesn't deserve to know about this.

>>18999079
The timemore c3 is a manual grinder dumbass.

>>18999079
The thing is that Timemore C3, as a manual grinder, doesn't have the speed to heat the coffee enough.

That's why people still prefer manual grinders to electric ones.

Coffee tastes like shit. All coffee. All variants. Black. Expensive brand. French press. Filled with cream or honey or whatever bullshit.

>>18999079
>because manual grinders don’t heat up coffee beans during grinding
Or you could rtfm on your electric grinder where every single model tells you not to grind for longer than a minute or so without stopping for awhile.

>>18999083
But does all shit taste like coffee?

>>18999079
You can just have fuckhuge burrs and grind very quickly without undue heating. This is every enthusiast / commercial grinder.

>>18998998
It costs double what you have to spend to get a good quality manual grinder, so no it's a rip off endlessly shilled /ck/ coffee general threads.
Typical amoral chinks not caring how much they have to shit up an area in pursuit of a few pennies profit. Just imagine the heavy metals that contaminate their metal stocks being slowly ground into your diet....
I would stop drinking coffee entirely rather than purchase one of their products.

Reminder that using things like Nespresso costs you more than grinding coffee and doing better espressos.

Is there any point in getting an electric grinder without ceramic burrs ? the only ones available here are basically blenders and i'm not sure that's the same thing at all. Does it make a difference for the taste ?

$20
makes beans into grounds by the press of a button
coffee snobs really are the biggest group of faggots
they treat a drink like a hobby
nigger its burned bean water

>>18999069
>french press
Wut? It's one of the most reasonable ways of preparing coffee, for anyone that can't be arsed.

>>18999077
who do you think hates whites the most

>>18999093
Jews

>>18999091
Too uneven compared with even the cheapest of grinders, like Timemore C2.

>>18999095
tastes fine to me
its burnt bean water
while you are using your dick to measure individual grounds my dick is being used to fuck your mom

Imagine being a coffee nerd, all I need is this desu.

3 teapoons into a cup, some hot water and I'm ready to code

>>18999097
based
the jew fears the crystal user

>>18999098
The jews love people that buy coffee from big corps and hates people that buy fine coffee directly from the producer.

>>18999099
shut up nerd
all he needs is a cup, microwaved water, and a spoon
you need grinder, frother, scale, some glass vase with titty tassles, special cone filters because for some reason the good old fashion ones cant be good enough for your flavor of faggotry, a stopwatch, a kettle, and onions milk
now which consumer does the jew like more?

>>18998998
I have the K0
For the $30 I paid for it there's probably no better grinder.

>>18999100
I use this one.

>>18999090
The only electric grinders with ceramic burrs I've heard of are the really cheap shitty ones, or that one baratza grinder with machined ceramic burrs, which is quite expensive.

>>18999100
>microwaved water
you fucking disgust me

>>18999071
>de razor trend
>last 5 years
Lol. Try 15. I'd been hearing about it since before I was 20.
>>18999069
Coffee is like tea, and yes it matters. Drip machines make bitter, underbrewed, flavorless shit and waste a ton of coffee.

>>18999083
Try the Hoffman french press method, and do pay attention to your grind size, water temp, and total brew time.

When you make a coffee right it isn't bitter, doesnt taste like burnt grass, or any of the shit most people are used to.

>>18998998
if you want cost effective you could get 2 rocks and smash the beans between them

>>18999106
4 minutes is enough.

>>18999106
yep can confirm, I don't even like coffee that much but brewing with his method made coffee drinkable even with no sugar which would be unimaginable for me in the past

>>18999057
kek this, it's like when you try to tell americans that they could improve they ways of life and they get angry and call you a communist

>>18999083
>I drink shit coffee and it tastes like shit
no way retard

>>18999057
i thought this too until i bought an aeropress and some decent coffee, most people live in darkness and consume sludge worse than instant coffee. they really have no idea.

>>18999100
>I own nothing and that's how I dab on jews
the incredibly low amount of self-awareness some of you guys have is insane. You own the jews by drinking literal definition of coffee goyslop. In a microwaved water. You don't even own a kettle. Amazing.

I guess you need more

>>18999111
yeah that's what they all say, then they offer me an example of what they think "good" coffee is and turns out they're always full of shit.

>>18999083
Coffee made by other people tastes like shit.

>doing this beard oil ass mumford and sons shit when pre-workout bevs exist
shaking my head to be honest my man

>>18999100
>microwaved water
amerimutt post of the day

you guys drink coffee at all?

get fucked autists
who the fuck has 30 minutes every morning to spend on shit like coffee

what are some good instant coffees?

>needing more than this bad boy

>>18999056
>I’m so tough look at me drink bitter water that contain fecal matter and bugs
You’re literally sheep faggot, kys immediately

Anybody try the K2?

I bought a Hario Skerton Pro a few weeks ago.

>>18999134
>takes anon thirty minutes to grind beans & boil them

>>18999448
Sir please don't mock the cripple.

>>18998998
Only if your time has very little value.

>>18999010
I'm having a hard time imagining your gf exodus

>>18999033
He's important

>>18999489
Usually when you're important it's the others that rush. He's still a faggot though.

>>18999105
Because it's based

>>18999494
Sex with chilren

>>18998998
>rocks are free
>op somehow thinks this contraption is more cost-effective
>>18999000
>a $5 rock
why are you paying for free things?
that's like subscribing to a twitch channel.

I prefer using pre-ground coffee, make about half a liter of coffee with a moccamaster with a little bit of salt, then cool the stuff in water bath and drink it later with oatly and sugar to make it palatable.

>>18999134
Maybe work out if it takes you 30minutes to grind beans and make coffee you fat fuck

>>18998998
>$79
i might buy this. Other coffee grinders were like $100+ except for some shitty ones

>>18999018
i got one and found out I could attach a drill to the bit that the handle attaches to

>>18999035
commandante is overrated nigger tier grinder that is unfit for espresso thoughbleit

>>18999092
The best way to use french press is to use a big mug instead.
Plunger doesn't do anything except disturbing coffee particles which woul end in your drink.

>>18999769
what the fucking fuck is wrong with you

>>19000172
I heat the mixture in microwave

>>18999069
To be fair they hate the french press and Delonghi as well. The only cost effective tools accepted are v60 and aeropress.

>>18999051
no, he comes off as a sensible male
seriously stop being so precious about coffee
its not a good look

I have a hario hand grinder
even though it's just a minute of grinding, it feels like a long time to do that for every drink.

too bad the cheap electric ones grind continuously in one compartment. why don't they have a fixed grind and expel it like a hand grinder

Knock master race reporting

>>18998998
what's this piece of shit's capacity? 50 grams?

>>18999075
a good de razor is like 30$
and the faggot coffee trend has been a thing for 10 years at least

>>19000624
35.

>>19000545
lol, a Kingrinder K1 would be a big improvement over the hario.

>>19001183
>big improvement
I doubt it

I guess there's a new market in recent years for the r*ddit figurine collecting type with disposable income

>>18999353
The whole point is that it's not bitter if you make it right. Not everything is a crisis of masculinity, faggot. If you're that insecure then go suck a dick and see if you like it.

>>18999005
>Being naturally caffeinated
what do you mean?

>>18999004
My Breville is doing just fine after 4 years of daily use

>>18999114
Basado

>>19001204
If you are happy with Hario, K1 would be better, and you will not need more.

how come I cant find any videos on youtube of grinding coffee beans with a pestle and mortar?

>>19001475
Because apparently you somehow suck at searching for videos

>>19001183
>>19001456
fuck off shill
>>19001204
I used a cheap ceramic burr grinder for like 2 years, and getting a metal burr one with a nice crank and handle definitely makes it easier and quicker. That being said there's no noticeable difference in coffee quality and I wouldn't spend more than like $50 on one.

>>18999001
post body

>>18999006
but is it healthy? no.

>>19001511

>>19001515
Neither is posting on 4chan but here we are

>>19001530
Post nudes

>>18999113
>You don't even own a kettle.
post hand

>>19001538
No YOU post nudes buster

>>18999134
stfu u dunno shit. america runs on coffee.

>>19001543
>america runs

>>19001368
>Not everything is a crisis of masculinity, faggot.
you will never be a man

>>19001393
lmao u got the one female model

>>19001553
Oh true I noticed this one has a vagina on it instead of a cock

why is metal better than ceramic?
I thought ceramic was even harder than steel

>>18999084
Are you retarded? Do you not understand how instructions from an electric grinder run by a motor that grinds at several thousand rpm is not relevant to a hand grinder run by a human's hands that is not capable of spinning the burrs anywhere near as quickly? Do you understand what heat and friction are and how they might correlate in some way to the burrs' rotational speed? Do you understand that your mother is a whore who should've learned to swallow and spared us all your retarded ramblings?

>>19002431
Small piece of steel is easier to machine, and can retain sharp edges while ceramic can’t, if ceramic does have sharp ridges, those would probably be susceptible to damage due to its brittle nature. I think there are high end ceramic flats but conicals are mostly shit and just mostly crush beans instead of also shaving and cutting

>>18999034
I'd only recommend once or twice, but that's because that's what I do with the week's less than 200 micron grounds. I can't toss the .06 gram per gram of my grounds.

>>18999100
heeey! I use an even older type of filter than your "good old fashion ones", cotton, in my glass vase with titty tassels, that sits on my scale/timer.
Have you ever drank a percolated coffee? That's old school. How about a moka pot? Older still. Coffee siphon? That's almost 200 years old now. We can go on.
Your instant coffee consumption shows us a clear lack of discipline and laziness. "Da jooes" are still getting their money from you. If all you care about is caffeine delivery, just get caffeine pills. They're cheaper.
I pay 6$ per pound of green coffee, shipped. How much is your jar of evaporated coffee?

>>18999005
What a miserable existence you have
I bet that you are a virgin.
Drink coffee, fuck fat bitches without condom, live life and do drugs
>inb4 degenerate
Imagine living life trying to please a bunch of bitter virgins on a vietnamese drafted beer forum

>>18999035
then why did you post a pic of a commendante

>>18999056
Even if ou can't taste the difference it's still worth getting a high-end grinder because it will last you a lifetime. If you do this with all your cookware, just a few but quality items, in the end you'll save money + lots of space in your ktichen to put ingredients instead.

>>18999064
useless with out the red clix though, overpriced for the full purchase.

>>18999134
Unless you use instant, I guarantee I'm faster at making coffee than you.

I'm not sure how much milk to put in my latte. Do you measure before or after you steam?

>>19003859
You need a tutorial for X+${amount.of.coffee} = ${cup.size} ?
"X" being the amount of milk if you had any doubts.

>>19004078
Well I'm making it with a 3 cup moka pot. I tried watching the videos in the OP but he never says how much milk he is using, I'm guessing like 200-250ml?

>>18998998
I have it and it's pretty great. Build quality is unbelievably high

>>18999114
Maybe this is just me, but I feel like grinding the beans first makes a huge difference to taste with the moka pot.

>>19001543
I've considered quitting coffee for this reason. Nicotine was too weakening to my strength and hair and skin, so I stopped. Alcohol made everyone foolish and weak, so I stopped. Now, I'm looking into writings on the link between caffeine consumption and the Enlightenment, the rise of capitalism and the industrial revolution and I have once again discovered another chain of slavery to cast off. I do like the taste though.

>>19001530
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>>18999096
>its burnt bean water
Yes, you keep describing the swill you make, but some of us here aren't masochists.

>>18999097
>>18999024

I would love to drink instant coffee if I could, but unfortunately the freeze drying process imparts an after taste in the coffee that is tolerable in small amounts but builds up and becomes gross the more you drink. Even decently expensive instant brands still suffer from this, though I've found I don't notice it quite as much when I use it to make iced coffee, particularly with this brand, which I always keep in my cabinet to make a glass in a pinch, but hot it does not suffice.

>>18999030
why the fuck did you type Onions? Soy is uncensored here

This is why people use white as an insult

>>19006673
I don't care about race, everyone deserves a good cuppa joe

>>19007771
couldn't of said it better my self

>>18999062
>applying some technique to a cheap blade grinder makes it actually function
Wish more people would understand this. You can get as good a result with a blade grinder in less time and with less maintenance

Coffee grinders need a general on /g/.

If dildos and vibrators can have one, why not coffee grinders, that are clearly technology?

>>19004078
are these timemore?

>>18999026
i grind the night before and put it in a mason jar. too lazy in the am to grind coffee and this is marginally worse.

>>18999489
I'm important, so I hand grind my coffee slowly while my coworkers wait for me to respond on Teams

>>19001393
This piece of shit has a plastic burr holder. It will inevitably crack when a grinder that costs this much should last a lifetime.

>>18999087
China is the biggest steel manufacturer in the world. 99% chance the steel stock that was used to mill the burr that ends up in the commandante was cut in the same factory from the same stocks. Mostly beause they're the exact same burrs. Just keep throwing your money away no one cares.

>>19011130
>99% chance the steel stock that was used to mill the burr that ends up in the commandante was cut in the same factory from the same stocks
what kind of retarded statement is this?

coffee fags are worse than craft beer fags

>>19003791
>steel burr grinder
lol it's going to be dull within a month of use

>>19004715
It makes me more productive and I want to stick it to my employer

anyone have a recommendation for a $20 grinder from ali express?

>>19012385
It is pretty sad that Kingrinder K1 is $30 on Amazon US, and it is more expensive on Aliexpress.