/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18978305
Pan fried filled with potatoes, pork and cheese.

Polish ahh wonton

>>18978305
Gyoza?

i'm just making ruskie with butter, bacon and fried onions on top. GOD-TIER

>>18978305
vareniki*

>>18978585
no

>>18978305
I prefer potato and cheese like my mum always made me when I was little. Import shop near me only ever has potato and onion but I think it's finally becoming my favourite. They run for cover when they see me heading for that freezer now

>>18978312
Fpbp

>>18978776
yes

Love them but my mom's dad was from Poland so I ate a lot of them growing up
Paczkys and kielbasa too
Bros I just love processed meat, potatoes, and dairy ngl

Last time I made them too thin and the dough sorta broke and leaked cheese which then melted.

I usually use a sour cream dough but maybe next time I will do a yeasted dough and cold-ferment it so the dough tears less.

>pan fried with chopped onion
>any mince meat and some veg, minced to a pulp

>cherry filling
>boiled in fruit compote
don't remember this well, but my grandma made them. made cherry/berry compote from fruit in her garden and used same cherries for pierogi filling

I miss her

>>18978305
I never know what to do with these so I dump a lot of butter on them and then I burn my mouth skin off my gums from the heat and then I throw out like half of them cause they're too drowned in butter

>>18979475
wait wait wait your grandma made meat/veg pierogi AND cherry/fruit pierogi?

how were these served? all fried with onion or were the cherry ones served as dessert?

my babci would only make them out of potato or minced lamb, all the seasoning/flavour would come from the pan where she would crisp them with onion or leeks andd ALWAYS plated with applesauce

Ruskie always. Simple as

>>18979540

(different anon here and) My Depression Era/WWII generation Polish immigrant mom made potato and farmer cheese pirogi, blueberry, kapusta/ground beef/mushroom and occasionally plum pirogi.

IMO the best frozen brand of pierogi are Kasias.

>>18978305
polish cunts need to die.

>>18978808
do you serve them in some kind of soup/broth? never seen them served that way

I like them whether they're just plain potato, potato and bacon, potato and cheese or potato with both bacon and cheese. My preferred way is to pan fry in a little bit of butter and serve them with sour cream, preferably as a side to sausage or pork cutlets.

>>18979514
i always drown them in butter and bacon fat but there is no such thing as too much butter for me lol

>>18979514
You sound retarded.

>>18981416
not normally, just on that particular day I was making kluski soop and happened to have 6 or so frozen rogies to use up so I included them. it was nice under the circumstances but I've never done that otherwise

>>18978305
When I was poor I would fill the freezer with these things. I'd get a 10# bag of potatoes, 3# chub of bacon ends, pound of cheddar, and 3# bag of onions for about $12. You get bonus points if you do some into little dinosaurs when stuffing them. Serve with sour cream and grilled onions

>>18981424
I am retarded

>>18978305
fried and topped with sour cream

i dunno how my grandma makes them but they're like the best food in the worth, from the dough to the filling they just taste out of this world

test

>>18978305
1. Mushroom and sour cabbage
2. Blueberries
3. Beef
4. Bryndza
5. Ruskie

>>18978305
gyoza

>>18978312
>potatoes
never understood why slavic subhumans art putting carbs inside of carbs

>>18978585
Vareniki are only the potato ones.

>>18981564
>not jiaozi
ngmi

Pan fried in bacon (including grease) with chopped onions. Serve with sour creme on the side.

>>18981732
Because you're a dumb Amerimutt who cowers if you're within a mile of a black person and thinks you're cultured for having a medium rare steak.

>>18981749
I think I'm cultured because I live between a panda express, a fazoli, and a taco bell

Took me a lot of time and effort to learn how to make good Pierogies. Potato cheese and onion here.

>>18978305
gay mans dumplings.

>>18978305
Potato and cheese. Boiled, then pan fried. Topped with fried onions, bacon, sour cream, siracha sauce.

>>18978305
Pierogi, dish consisting of boiled dumplings filled with various savory or sweet ingredients, is often considered the food of a cultured man for good reason. Not only is the process of making pierogi a time-honored and cherished tradition in slavic cuisine, but the dish also offers a wide variety of flavors and fillings, ranging from savory meats and cheeses to sweet fruits and jams. Additionally, pierogi's simple yet elegant presentation, often served with a dollop of sour cream and a sprinkle of herbs, reflects a refined and sophisticated taste. Whether enjoyed as a comforting and hearty meal or as an indulgent treat, pierogi is an esteemed culinary delight for any discerning palate belonging to any cultured gentleman.

>>18982206
what kind of cheese? i don't have farmer's cheese in my c'untry

>>18982259
Thanks GPT-3 san.

>>18978305
Potato filled served with a pork chop and apple sauce

>>18978305
Sauerkraut and mushroom. I mix these 1:1 with beef and onion pelmeni / pirogi when cooking. Serve with strong mustard, sour cream, smoky sprats and the strongest black tea I can brew.

>>18978305
>Potato chive and cheese
>Potato and cheese
>Sauerkraut and bacon
>Plum bacon and cheese
> Sweet Plum
>Cherry and cheese
>Mushroom

In that order.

Idk not a big fan of meat filled ones.
Those weird ones are ok sometimes like the broccoli and cheese or spinach and feta but are almost like a completely different product because the taste is so different.

>>18982272
Ricotta would work if you put it in a cheese cloth and let it dry out for a day or 2

What's a good recipe for pierogi dough?

>>18982448
well that sounds like a gigantic dickpain though

I just found 4 frozen potato & onion pierogies in the freezerr

it's not much but boiled 'em, fried 'em with butter and white pepper and garlic

>>18982513
jfc they're not pierogi tthey're chinese dumplings >:C

>>18978305
I like pelmeni.

>>18982449
the way my grandmother makes it and her pierogi are the best is just flour, oil and hot water

>>18982863
whenever I buy my rogi I always buy a bag of pork and beef siberian pelmeni. shit's delishes but one needs to have both.

>>18981732
Shut up and let Tyrone fuck your wife in front of the kids, yt boi

>>18978305
>best filling
Potato and Onion
>best way to serve
Pan Fried in butter, arrange them on the plate into a sun shape. In the center of the plate, a generous heap of caramelized onions and crispy bacon, then a dollop of sour cream, followed by some sliced scallions.

My advice is to only ever pan fry in butter. I've tried cooking oil, bacon fat, tallow, and lard, butter is the ideal frying fat for perogi.

>>18978305
My favourite type are "russian" pierogi. Where the filling is cottage cheese, onions, potatoes, butter, salt and pepper. The more peppery the better.

I could gorge myself on those till the end of time. My grandmother makes them masterfully. I've been trying to learn but I have yet to master the perfect dough consistency.

>>18983053
dang those look and sound nice

>steamed not fried
>no goyslop additives
they are top tier frozen snack

>>18978585
Yes

>>18981733
Wrong

>>18978305
Sweet cheese, simply boiled and add some melted lightly salted butter.

Second best is potato, boiled and add high-fat (30%+) smetana, melted butter, chopped chives and fresh bacon bits. Fried is acceptable but really not necessary.

High-fat smetana completely changed my vareniki experience compared to shitty low-fat high-guar-gum western sour cream.

>>18979540
she would prepare them in batches, I think you should first boil them, let them dry and then freeze them.

when it comes to being served the savoury ones can be boiled and served with onion, fried pork rinds and fat.
but if they were already cooked through before freezing they would usually be just heated on a pan to lightly brown them and again serve them with some and onion and pork.

the sweet ones would always be boiled though. she would sometimes boil them in fruit compote though and serve them as this sort of fruity soup with sweet pierogi 'dumplings'.
or serve them on a plate with some cream.
babcias love feeding their grandkids, so it often was a desert but these sweet pierogi can be a full meal, especially with a plate of soup

>>18981416
on a special occasion (a Sunday dinner once in a blue moon) my mum would serve big, fat mince meat filled pierogi with chicken soup (rosol) instead of using noodles.

...Rosol is traditionally served with noodles in Poland

they fit together surprisingly well

>>18983087
>steamed not fried
Your European forebears are very disappointed in you

>>18978345
Kaiman approves this post

The one with minced pork inside and pan fried. Potato is fine too

>>18983408
everyone in my family likes them fried but for me it's always boiled and then topped with so much butter it almost looks like buttery soup

>>18978305
Millie's Pierogi from Chicopee, MA are the best.

>>18983567
not that anon but steamed reminds me of wontons and it's fine too

>>18978305
aren't these just simplified chinese dumplings?

>>18983598
>chink food

>>18983621
>chinks r food
I vill eat the bugs

>>18983621
is the best in the world along with french and italian food

>>18983571
fuck off, massfag

>>18984660
he's kinda handsome,post more

>>18981732
I bet you eat pasta with garlic bread though

>>18984675
you like palestinians?

>>18984683
I do not, pasta with bread is another subhuman retard maneuver. Probably invented by Americans right after breading their meat before putting it in a sandwich.

ok. so is it boil then pan fry? or just boil? or no boil and just fry in a pot of oil? how to properly cook perogi?

also for potato and onion filling? any seasonings?

and dough. just a basic dough with water and flour?

i tried making them once and they were pitifully average.

>>18984699
Maybe,his body hair is hot desu

>>18984774
boil and panƒry is pretty much the accepted preparation, as is common with Polish noodle, dough, and batter-based foods.

even kluski (drop noodles) is boiled to cook and then pan fried

https://youtu.be/AyYmgI7nOBk

>white cheese, potatoes and onion
>buckwheat
>sauerkraut and mushrooms
>minced meat
>spinach and gorgonzola
>blueberry topped with sweetened cream
>strawberry with some sugar sprinkled on top

Pierogi that are savoury are better fried, sweet ones are better boiled, simple as

>>18985439
you mean boiled THEN fried vs. just boiled?

>>18984774
to make the potato and onion filling, first finely dice an onion. Fry it in oil on medium low heat, until brown. Drain oil. Peel and dice a potato, boil and mash roughly. Add onion, season with salt and pepper, and stir through onion

>>18984774
>how to properly cook pierogi?
Freshly boiled with melted butter and caramelised onion. If you are reheating them, pan fry also with butter and preferably onion. I wouldn't pan fry wet boiled pierogi. Feels wrong to me.
>potato and onion filling? any seasonings?
Salt and pepper. Add cottage cheese if you're doing potato and (fried) onion if you're not already.
>just basic dough?
Yes. You can add an egg if you want.
>painfully average
Yes. You are eating potato, onion and cottage cheese dumplings. It is poverty food. I like it because I'm a Polak, but classic ruskie aren't anything advanced or deep. You can make sweet ones with fruit, sour ones with sauerkraut (lol), cabbage and meat, whatever the hell you feel like. I like to put a gyoza filling into them. Also have them with kefir or buttermilk.

>>18985493
Okay, surprised there's no more to it than that. Good to know though. And if the dough is just flour and water with no seasonings or whatever, when I think I will try making perogis again over the next few days.

>>18985505
Cool, thanks for all the tips. Good to know I wasn't really making it wrong. I'll probably try it again over the next few days and get a better feel for it. How many do you usually make at a time? How many per person? Is it a meal or like an appetizer/snack?

>>18982425
FUCKING BASED

it seems like very poverty food. sure theres lots of cheap foods but for some reason, pierogies give me a very poverty vibe. like sure theres oatmeal, potatoes and rice thats cheap food, but pierogi makes me think of old polish people withthose headscarves. like wtf? A dumpling with potatoes in it? thats like eating boiled water with flour balls in it. peak poverty

>>18986087
but it's good

>>18986087
this dude doesn't like potatoes lmao

>>18986093
its not bad, but its very bland. its like the potatoes arent seasoned. bought a bag from costco. two flavors. very mediocre. when theres like asian dumplings, and mashed garlic butter poatoes, theres no point of piergies. its peak poverty food because if u buy it from supermarket, sure w.e, but if make it, and im sure the reason they invented it was during times of peak poverty. like wtf? wrapping mashed potatoes in flour?

>>18986103
i DO like potatoes, and when making peirogi, potatoes get mashed, so why the fk would anyone wrap up mashed potatos instead of just making mashed potatoes with butter and garlic. Pierogie is a food invented during poverty because people had nothing to eat and nothing to do.

>>18986103
>>18986093
theres also pierogies with potatoes and sour cream, so why not just bake potato and sour cream? wrapping it up in a flour shell is just peak poverty.

>>18986119
>>18986123
while we're at it why do people even peel potatoes, imagine being seen by a member in the family standing over the sink and using a potatoe peeler in their presence, it's peak poverty

>>18986107
>>18986123
anon/s the whole world loves food shoved into a doughy poccket. I don't know why, but everything is better in dumpling form. the texture is just so satisfying and let's be honest, each time you bite into one you rediscover the treasure within all over again

>>18986126
>while we're at it why do people even peel potatoes
because i ate potatoe skins raw before and now i dont want to eat it cooked.

>>18986130
but perigoeis have no taste. i treid a few flavors from a few brands. super market brand and costco. maybe im just used to more traditional dumplings with meat fillings. biting into a potato filled dumpling is too fkn poverty. if it tasted good then w.e, but yeah, the texture of biting into it and getting nth but mush mashed potatoes is like not very good mouth texture feeling.

>>18986149
I think purchasing premade pierogis is a little silly considering how easy and quick they are to make plus how well they freeze

challenge yourself, see if you can make your own filling that YOU think is worth the effort

>>18986130
when u eat a meat filled dumpling theres bite and after you bite through it, its meat and harder than mashed potatoes. like potatoes and sour cream and bacon and chives is good, but when wrappedi in flour, its too poverty.

>>18986149
this is why you fry it in butter and season. usually it's served with fried onions and sour cream, but also applesauce, bacon, sausage, etc. I personally fry them in butter with garlic or sometimes leeks. you might as well complain about your fettucini being bland if you're just eating it plain

>>18986158
if i make my own filling, then i can just use meat and scallions? then that moves away from a traditional pierogie though. like thats what im talking about, making perogies is poverty cause you go through the effort of making dumplings, only to wrap up potatos and sour cream. like at that the point, it mustve been like eating baked potatoe and sour cream way too often that that inventor was like "ok lets wrap this up in flour"

luv 'em
>best way to serve them?
honestly depends on the filling but for beef pierogis I like to boil them then throw them in a pan with a little bit of butter just to get some brown on the surface. serve with sour cream, and if you want to add garlic and/or chive to the sour cream all the better.

i'd go to war to defend the honour of ruskie pierogi

>>18986164
>this is why you fry it in butter and season. usually it's served with fried onions and sour cream, but also applesauce, bacon, sausage, etc.
i have also tried pierogies stuffed with those ingredients you listed. Onions, bacon, sour cream. the ingredients used can be used to make a proper meal. like baked potatoe and sour cream and bacon. to go through the effort to make/invent a pierogi for sure was a sign of long lasting extreme poverty.

>>18985479
All the sweet-filled ones are, in my opinion, better when spongy and tender, do only cooked. All savoury are better when you first boil them, let them rest, and then fry them

>>18978305
That's a potsticker

>>18978585
retard

>>18979733
Anon why

>>18978312
fippy bippy
cabbage gets old after awhile

>>18986087
It is Polish poverty food but also comfy and delicious.

>>18978305
the bag of frozen stuff my parents bought has a recipe for some kind of casserole
>fry till brown
>add to casserole dish along favorite canned creamy soup and leftover meats and whatever vegetables you like
>bake 10 min, add chesse on top and bake another 10-15 minutes
wa la

>>18988421
as someone with polish grandmother it sounds like an abomination but thinking about probably wouldn't taste bad

>>18978305

>>18978305
>meat
S tier
>potato
F tier

>>18978312
This, ruskie (just a name, nothing to do with russia) for the win

>>18985505
This anon is correct. Have a Polish gf, this is how her and her mom do it. Favorites are:

>Kapusta (mushrooms and cabbage)
>Potato, onion and cheese

Sometimes gf will season them with a little sazón after they finish boiling and fries them in the pan with butter and onion. I know it's not traditional but she's done it a bunch of times and I fucking love what it adds to a potato pierogi. Its always been her guilty pleasure snack to doctor up the frozen ones. Plus it makes them all bright and orange while they glisten with butter... fuckkk I'm hungry now..

>>18989144
You dont deserve polish gf. I DESERVE POLISH GF

>>18989438
i'd introduce you to my sister but believe me bro you don't want to meet this generation of polish women

>>18981732
It's not just potatoes but also cottage cheese (the hard kind) and pepper. And it genuinely doesn't taste like it has potatoes in it, I'm Polish and I didn't know until I made some myself

>>18989733
I believe ya fren. Were all in this together

>>18988786
it means ruthenian it’s not “just a name”