/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18965025
>HFCS
>Corn starch
>Tapioca flour
>Guar gum
>Tara gum
>Locust bean gum

You can't buy good ice cream anymore. They just don't make it anymore. It's like bacon, and a thousand other things, quality is lowered and lowered until they're barely edible.

Be gone merchants. I refuse to buy your products out of sheer spite

tillamook tastes like generic store brand stuff to me, and seems airy. Not bad by any means, but I’d rather go for blue bell, and I don’t think they’re particularly creamy, but they taste better

I'm more of a umpqua kinda guy

for me, it's Haagen Dazs (made with real cream!!)

>>18965065
I remember our old country home.

Clean fresh air and flowers growing in the fields, along the path, behind our swimming hole.

Momma hollering through the screen. "Would you kids like some homemade ice cream?"

That was such a simpler time and place.

Blue Bell tastes just like the good ole days..

Wait, what's actually the best brand of ice cream? I mean objectively speaking, the best money can buy, 100% cream and egg yolks and sugar like the thickest and most creamy brand on earth?

>>18965727
The free market no longer demands such a product, and as such, it doesn't exist anymore. What a blessing!

>>18965025
just killed a white choc raspberry tillamook, shits cash

>>18965727
Just have your cook make you up a batch

>>18965727
try them out. I found tillamook the best among the cheaper brands

>>18965065
never tried blue bell, but find most cheap ice cream to weirdly gooey and most of the chocolate flavor sucks

>>18965074
Haagen Dazs is good but its literally 4x the price of tillamook.

>>18965025
Seems like Tillamook changed their recipe a few years ago. It was great up until 2020 or 21 but now it's shit. Ben and Jerry's or Häagen-Dazs are the only brands worth getting these days

>>18965727
Of the mass market shit Haagen Dazs is going to be the highest quality.
Depending where you live you may be able to find something else Graeters, Jenis, McConnells etc.

Regardless, ice cream is all about flavor the quality is secondary.

Just make your own ice cream you lazy cunts it's actually shockingly simple to do.

>>18965727
Most Haagen-Daaz flavours are 100% pure/natural.

>>18965840
Shockingly simple if you're a retard. Bet you think custard is shockingly simple

>>18965072
Umpqua seems to only have like 4 flavors but they all rock.

>>18965065
>>18965072
I live in the county next to Tillamook. Their ice cream is good but I find they whip too much air into their product for my preference. Sure the texture is light and fluffy but remember it's priced and sold by volume, not weight.

Umpqua is a good local competitor and makes their product with less air, therefore better value.

Best thing would be to make my own ice cream. Negative is I'm not keen on buying and storing the equipment just for a dessert I eat infrequently. Positive would be making home made blackberry, huckleberry, or salal ice cream.

Yes, because I make my own

>>18965878
Tillamook products are good quality for what you pay for. The sales for them can get pretty crazy. Just wish the vintage white cheddar went on sale as often as the medium.

>>18965774
>cuck and kike's ice cream
maybe in 2005

>>18965774
Blow & Jobs ice cream donate a portion of all sales to gun control groups every year.

>>18965903
WELL,CHECK YOU OUT.

>>18965919
So? Most companies you give money to do worse things with it.

>>18965855
Depends on what your distributor stocks. They have lots of flavors but I have seen only a handful in local stores.

>>18965043
so just make your own ice cream with high quality cream, sugar, egg and vanilla?

>>18965740
Make it yourself then, princess.

>>18965025
At least they are more honest than Unilever or Nestle--
Still not eating that shit
Make your own.
Anymore, you have to make your own food if you want it unfuxated.
I started making 3 loaves of bread a week for my family. with the quick recipe for ice cream using organic cream and evaporated milk, and adding your own stir-ins before the hardening freeze, this should be accessable to anyone.

https://youtu.be/4rsLIcl7sW4

>>18965851
>can't into custard
>oh NOES!! how does I temper?
>What am an strainer??
>How do it wurk??
Who's the retard here, bub?
He also never said anything about custard STYLE,faggot.
(still fucking easy)

For a combination of price, variety, and being pretty available depending where you live, the publix store brand can be great.

>>18965930
You actually admitting to the fact you don't look into who your money goes to?
So...You're a lazy NPC faggot huh?
You can just sit down over there and shut your fucking cockholster.

>>18965878
>Negative is I'm not keen on buying and storing the equipment just for a dessert I eat infrequently
You can make ice cream with normal kitchen equipment. It's a little bit of a project, but the quality is beyond almost anything you can buy

>>18965919
Who gives a fuck lol. I just want good ice cream

>>18965025
Yes.

>>18965043
>He doesn't know about the iconic brand of American ice cream and the only good brand of ice cream.
>Also he is a dipshit who thinks HFCS and regular corn syrup is the same thing.

>>18965727
I'll give you a hint. look at the attached pic.

>>18965043
? buy jeni's

even big huge brands of ice cream have 5 ingredient only ice cream varieties.

>>18966066
>devil with the details
huh...
I always thought Dreyers was a fake movie brand from the 80s.
Would eat.
Would still make my own too.

>>18965823
Based, HEB's Swoon ice cream is absolutely the best I've had from a grocery store.

>>18966066
Haagen Dazs had a recall recently because of contamination

Homemade is the only way to be sure it's pure

>>18966016
LOL like you do. If you did and avoided all products/services that profit people you don't like you'd be offline living out in the woods somewhere.

>>18966066
The easiest way to tell just how incredibly superior Haagen Dazs is to *illamook is to simply look at the calorie count

>2/3 cup Tillamoo*
>200 calories
>2/3 cup Haagen Dazs
>340 calories

I'm convinced there are paid shills here trying to trick people into thinking Tilladook is a "premium product".

>>18966390
>>18966066
The HD ingredients list looks sexy but I've taste tested HD vs BJ's and although BJ is packed with gums it's more enjoyable to eat. The HD is always rock hard out of the freezer and difficult to scoop out of the jar while the BJ can be scooped more easily. The HD also melts into a puddle a lot faster.

Gums improve the texture ice cream, just deal with it.

>>18965043
>You can't buy good ice cream anymore.
you're a double retard. this is literally the golden age for good ice cream. I can go to pretty much any grocery store and pick up some boutique-ass shit ($5/pint and up) and get some amazing super premium ice creams, gelatos and custards with real flavors and not simulacra abstractions like "rocky road" or "superman".

>>18966390
I live very close to the Tillamook dairy. They make really good cheese. They used to make good ice cream, but greed made them fall off. It's full of gums and whipped full of air at this point.

Sure it tastes good. So does frozen cool whip with berries. It's bullshit. And their cheese isn't even the best in the state anymore... they keep falling off due to greed.

Rogue Creamery... we rogues out here.. both with cheeses and beers. Don't underestimate us.

Literally the perfect ice cream. You can't add or subtract anything from it to improve it. Ingredients: Cream, skim milk, cane sugar, raisins, egg yolk, rum

>and it's getting almost impossible to find in groceries because they need to make room for Jeni's dingleberry crisp and 0 calorie Halo Top garbage
I hate women so much it's unreal

>>18966402
Redpill

best ice cream ever suck my dick

>>18966402
>I've taste tested HD vs BJ's
I do believe you've taste tested BJs... I'm not talking about ice cream, though.

Nobody gives a shit about your opinion on ice creams or sucking cocks. Keep that shit to yourself.

>>18966402
I prefer HD because of the melt factor desu senpai. It melts over your tongue and washed your mouth with delicious, cool, creamy goodness. The coffee is my favorite, but in the summer I like matcha

>>18965043
based merchant begonerer

>>18966440
matcha tongue with deez

>>18966438
Show ingredients coward

Sometimes you can actually find real ice cream at the store... "full fat" or "full strength", although very rarely...

I've tried googling it to no avail. At Safeway during Christmas they had a "full strength" pint of eggnog ice cream that was over 1800 calories... made with only cream.

It is decadent if you can find it. Or, you know... make it yourself. It's always better... ALWAYS... if you make it yourself. Unless you're some kind of retard.

Enjoy your air-whipped skim milk desserts morons.

>>18966450
i don't obey redditspacers. make full paragraphs like an adult

>>18966454
You sound like a child. "Be an adult and I will obey"

They were paragraphs while I was typing them in the tiny box. The box, it's tiny, much like your sister. Do you think your sister posts her tiny box on reddit? Do you post your tiny penis on reddit? Who gives a shit? None of this is relevant, yet still somehow more relevant than your retarded comment.

Good job, gold star!

>>18966462
So you do post on reddit

>>18966466
Only when I'm 5 starring your tiny penis and 1 starring your sisters tiny box...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6FBfAQ-NDE

>>18966447
who gives a shit nigger its prob full of all those gums n shit you tards piss and moan about
you fags care way too much about that shit

>>18966471
Upboat!

>>18965043
would you consider this decent bacon? It's all I buy, comes from the local meat processing plant

>>18966520
NTA it's OK but it would be perfect without the added nitrates...

>>18965043
b-but they say nitrites are based
https://www.independentmeat.com/resources-faq

for me it's

>>18966520
Looks like shit anon. You can't get high quality bacon at the store anymore like you could in the good old days.
Do yourself a favor and smoke your own pork belly. Anything else is just inferior.

>>18966531
qrd?

>>18966531
I'm only 27
Have never seen anything else at the store

>>18965025
nope. in my country ice cream doesnt legally need to have any dairy in it at all. which is surprising considering the high standards placed on other food items

>>18966402
>EET HARD WHEN OUT OF THE FREEZUH!
>I JUST CAN'T STAND TO WAIT 5 MINUTES SO SLOP IS THE ONLY ANSWER
kurwa... american problems

>he doesn't eat mackies
ngmi

I'm a Brit though so I don't know if it's available elsewhere

>stop selling your products in occupied Palestine
>Amerigolems leap to defend their masters by boycotting your high fructose cold syrup
Lol, lmao even

>>18966524
How are you going to have cured meat without added nitrates?

>>18965727
The generic brands that come in those cheap gallon plastic tubs. Everything else is overpriced garbage, especially since all the brands that sold 2Qt containers are now all 1.5Qt containers that cost even more.

>>18965025
>legally required
What are you some biden camela type?

>>18965043
THICKENING AGENTS B-B-BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
Though I agree with you that I'd prefer regular sugar over corn syrup.

>>18966421
Rogue creamery is incredible. I hope that it doesn't change when it gets discovered and becomes wildly popular and nationally distributed.

>>18967663
>thickening agents bad

Yes.

>>18965878
It was significantly better twenty years ago before they got widespread distribution

>>18965082
>she fell for the blue bell psyops

>>18967962
Why?

>>18965930
you are legitimately retarded

>>18965082
>>18965764
>>18968868
blue bell is definitely more ice milky, but I kinda like it because of that. also the cookie dough+cookies and cream flavor is tasty

>>18965043
>>Tapioca flour
>>Guar gum
>>Tara gum
>>Locust bean gum
whats wrong with those?

Test

>>18966252
>you'd be offline living out in the woods somewhere.
close, but not quite.
And yes, I look into where I spend my money.
You're just a lazy faggot, who recoils at the thought of spending an hour maybe, at most, looking into things like this.
There's this thing, you see... ...called the internet.
You might be shocked to learn that I also look up what my county's politicians are passing laws about and what the senate is passing and introducing as bills.
Besides, as far as food goes, I haven't eaten from a mylar bag in years. I cook all my own meals, from either locally sourced, or vetted by me companies.
Mostly because I worked in restaurants and want nothing to do with that GFS and SYSCO garbage.
I'm not just saying this to berate you--as so many are wont to do here. You can do it yourself--It's NOT that hard, unless you are soft, sickly and addicted to convenience.
You can be better--give it a try.

>>18966088
common misconception considering a competing brand is literally 1 letter away from the same name (Breyer's)
also your picrel looks delicious, would eat

>>18965774
>Teenis and Penis's
no thanks

>>18970124
NNNOOOOOooooo!!
Itsssss
Forbidden.
(Dreyers look like the WinRar here, I suppose there's nothing wrong with high end $9/pint stuff every once in a while too.)
I miss Breyers--I used to make my own coffee liqueur and ganache and put that on a thick slice of Sara Lee poundcake (before it was pozzed,) topped with a couple scoops of Breyer's natural vanilla, then more melted ganache on top--SOAKED with the liqueur.
Chicks dug it too--a Valentine's special.

>>18965025
>eating goyslop ice cream rather than home made gelato

>>18969943
If you saw a chef making ice cream, and he started to add cornstarch and locust bean tar, whatever the fuck that even is, you'd be like dude wtf... but a company does it and you start doing mental gymnastics to rationalize it.

people love ice cream. ice cream is made with cream and sugar. companies have concocted clever ways to dilute their products in order to save money. it's a race to the bottom. food gets worse and worse every year and people just get used to it and come to think of ben and Jerry's as ice cream, when at best it is an ”ice cream-like” product.

Fuck you and fuck anyone who condones this shit.

"LOL ITS JUST BUSINESS WHY WOULDN'T YOU ADD BEAN GUM TO YOUR ICE CREAM? ITS NOT HARMFUL"

Yeah who gives a fuck, it's still dogshit. I want ice cream. Ice cream doesn't have bean gum and fucking taro root and cornstarch. Ever. Fuck you.

>>18968868
>tfw got psyop'd by the 'cream

>>18971278
Suck more Italian cock please.

Gelato is strictly inferior to ice cream.

>>18971460
>Ice cream doesn't have bean gum and fucking taro root and cornstarch. Ever.
Literally 95% of all ice creams, even the good ones, have those things and this has been so since like the 60s. And before they had locust bean gum they added gelatin. Starch has been a common addition in gelato for ages as well. Traditionally ice cream has egg yolk in it because it's a stabilizer and a thickener. I don't see any good reason why stabilizing with egg proteins is trad and based but stabilizing with starches or vegetable fibers like locust bean gum or guar gum is somehow haram. It's just shit that binds water to make the product more smooth and better.

Overuse of certain stabilizers (especially guar) can lead to weird textures, but there are basically no downsides to adding an appropriate amount of locust bean gum to ice cream which is why just about everyone adds it, except those who are very serious about a clean label. But ice cream is meant to be enjoyed and not admired for its label. It reminds me of when snack manufacturers started removing MSG from their products because consumers were afraid of the big scary word monosodium glutamate on the label, but in doing so were making their products worse because MSG is delicious actually.

For some reason /ck/ in particular has an autistic fit about stabilizers. The actual main factors that determine the quality of ice cream are the quality of the dairy, the quality of the flavoring ingredient, fat content, air content, smoothness of texture and freshness. I agree that the vast majority of ice cream on the market is shit, but it is so because it's low fat, whipped full of air and made with cheap poor quality dairy and flavoring, not because there's stabilizers, emulsifiers, dextrose or such in the mix. In fact without stabilizers, you would be eating flavorless low-fat milk foam that's additionally coarse and icy.

This post was made by the Locust Bean Gum Internet Defense Force (LBGIDF).

>>18965774
Haagen dasz yes, Ben and Jerry's no. When the founders sold their shares in the company the quality of ice cream went wayyy down. They just recombine six or seven ingredients over and over into "different" flavors.

>>18966454
Those are paragraphs and Reddit spacing is a forced meme by 2016 election tourists.
4chan

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Always

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Posts

You retard. Fuck off

>>18971678
I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know..... UGH I know.....

It's just that I'm not eating it is all!!!!

>>18971460
>If you saw a chef making ice cream
yea i would be like wtf

>>18966402
I don't like gums in my ice cream. Yes, I can tell the difference. Yes, I'm sure that companies put gums in because blind taste-testing on the public shows that ice cream with gums (or thickeners or emulsifiers or stabilizers) tastes better to most people. Just not to me.

I used to like Breyer's before it was bough up by either Unilever or the other huge ice cream conglomerate. It had no gums, but then, all of a sudden, they started adding them.

Turkey Hill Natural is hard to find, but also free of additives.

>>18965043
So the real answer is ice cream without gum isn't shelf stable, it's great fresh but if it has to sit in a store freezer for a month ebfore you buy it and another month before you eat it it breaks down.

Guess I should stop buying Costco ice cream because of the gums. Hagan Dass seems good, cheaper than buying Jenis I hope.

>>18973808
Horseshit. Haagen Daazs sells exactly this, and it's fine.

Are you some kind of dairy shill? Trying to hide the truth?

All those additives are in there for profit. They allow the manufacturer to whip more air into the product. Why the fuck do you think they don't list a weight on ice cream? Sold by volume...

Unlike you, I remember what ice cream was like 40 years ago. The texture was not what it is like today. It didn't seem like frozen whipped cream. Much like Hagan Daaz, actually.

So yeah... are you a shill or just an ignorant apologist?

>>18974697
maybe check the labe to make sure you're buying ice cream and not frozen dairy dessert
America actually has laws regarding what can be called ice cream

>>18974737
Holy fuck, you moron, it was already posted in this thread, but one more time for the retards...

>>18974686
This has 28% less cholesterol and 7 grams less sugar than the same serving of the Costco brand ice cream. Also no gums, take the Dazspill.

>>18974697
According to the other guy mass produced ice creams shouldn’t exist unless they’re filled with gums. We need to warn the Haagen family!

>>18974749
reread my post you drunk retard lol ffs

>>18971543
Oy vey, rabbi, and ice cream is kosher, too.

>>18974749
>>18974749
The reason HD is good is because they don't skimp on fat or overfill it with air. It has nothing to do with the lack of stabilizers.

>>18970116
You should've spent the hundreds of hours you wasted seething over food doing something actually productive, you fat fucking mook.

ice cream is for plebs
frozen custard is where it's at

>>18966471
this anon definitely stinks

>>18974746
chill bro a lot of people don't know that

>>18974925
>chill
ok man I'm sorry :D

>>18965043
>Has never made icecream before
Without adding that shit your icecream melts 10 minutes after taking it out of the freezer

>>18965727
Local brands. Yes you have to go out of your way and yes they are expensive.

>>18965065
>and seems airy
It is one of the less airy brands at a little under 40% air in the container, unfortunately. Every other major brand is way more air cept the stuff like B&J, Graeter's, H.D,Jeni's and McConnell who are sub 25% air. Everyone else is over 40% air cept probably Bluebell.

>>18971460
If you didn't know, why did you type a novel? Just say "I don't know." It's not difficult.

>>18966937
>Mono- and Diglycerides of Fatty Acids

>>18975242
All ice cream melts in 10 minutes at room temperature

>>18977837
turn down the temp in your house

>>18965727
Van Leeuwen is widely available, and has what you're looking for. My only gripe is that they don't have a plain chocolate or strawberry. Every flavor I've tried has been scrumptious.

>>18978097
Yeah I'm really into the honeycomb flavor with chocolate jimmies