/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Yeah non-stick coating starts releasing its cancer chemicals above 400 degrees.

Just bake shit at 350 and youll be fine

Get this instead
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/vollrath-20248-super-pan-v-1-2-size-footed-cooling-rack-for-bun-sheet-pan/92220248.html

https://www.webstaurantstore.com/vollrath-5303-wear-ever-heavy-duty-half-size-aluminum-bun-sheet-pan-18-gauge-wire-in-rim-13-x-18/9365303.html

>>18911200
Didn't your oven come with a broiler pan? I like the nordicware bare aluminium pans but I don't think they make a rack that isn't non-stick.

I thought the gimmick of Nordic Ware was that it's raw aluminum with no cancerous chemicals.

>>18911229
Hell, my costco panko breaded chicken breasts, fish sticks and just about everything is 425-450. Fucking pointless.

>>18911250
Hmm, I guess I just can't get anything non stick. What a stupid product. Can barely only bake cookies on these things.

>>18911200
>Nonstick
That's what you get for being a retard.

>>18911267
Costco usually has good stuff. You just can't do too much with this. Sad. Well, off it goes back to costco.

>>18911267
people that buy nonstick stuff are like children, they're always like that. funny thing is stainless steel and carbon steel breaks their little brains even more so it's not even an option for supermarkets

>>18911321
I think non stick is a great idea but it's just not ready for prime time.

If it was 450 or 500 it'd be fine. Sucks I couldn't use it under the broiler but whatever.

>>18911351
I use oil/fat and I never have a problem with literally anything sticking. Normals are so fucking lazy and retarded they'd rather invent a whole entire new material than take the time to learn how to cook.

>>18911351
what would you even need non stick pans for? I threw my last non stick pan in the garbage a few weeks ago. even "difficult" stuff like eggs tastes better when you make it in stainless/carbon/castiron

>>18911385
They are easier to clean and maintain and work well for low temperature cooking. There are even some non stick pans that can be baked up to 500 degrees.

https://www.amazon.com/All-Clad-E7859064-Anodized-Nonstick-Cookware/dp/B071JPND23

You also don't need to use as much canola oil or butter.

>>18911200
Anon it's just an aluminum pan.
That being said, the nonstick ones are a meme, they still stick and you have to line them, but they are harder to clean not to harm the delicate non-stick coat.
I have a couple of their plain ones and just stick them in the diswasher.
>inb4 aluminum in dishwasher
Yeah it gets ugly, who cares, it's a oven tray.

>>18911456
If the instructions say it's not usable above 400 then it's mostly worthless. I just wanted a regular pan that had a elevated rack to make things crispier. I sometimes finish certain things under the broiler as well. I just hate soggy chicken and foods so I thought elevating it so air gets underneath it will help.

>>18911200
Return that shit. Costco's super liberal return policy is one of the main perks of membership. There are people who abuse it, but this doesn't sound like one of them and the staff don't care unless you're in there returning shit every week or one of those assholes trying to return TVs after the Superbowl, etc.

By the way, check the website, the rack in your "American-made" Nordicware pan came from China.
>Made In: US (pan) and China (Grid)
https://www.nordicware.com/products/nonstick-high-sided-oven-crisp-baking-tray/

>>18911229
The thing is, "non-stick" can mean more than one thing in 2023, and Nordicware doesn't explicitly mention Teflon anywhere on the package, you have to go to the website to find out: "PTFE coating is made without PFOA.", i.e. supposedly the new "safer" Teflon, but sorry, I still don't want it my kitchen. Stay mad Dupont.

>>18911289
>Costco usually has good stuff.
Food-wise, yeah (except for produce), but housewares are hit or miss, Nu-Costco sells a lot of shit, you need to research and be ready to use that return policy.

>>18911684
Yeah I noticed that USA/China thing.

>>18911707
Sorry if I sound bitter but similar story here, I grabbed a Nordicware item on a whim (as you do at Costco) and didn't notice the details until seeing your post, so thanks for the heads-up. Why couldn't Costco have just sold the regular aluminum pans.

>>18911738
I'd expect costco to sell something more premium than a 10 dollar regular pan. Maybe a better material than aluminum or stainless I dunno. Maybe a bundle with something useful.

I just wanted a friggin elevated rack and couldn't find any ones that fit the bill at Walmart, target, sears or bed bath beyond.

>>18911253
That's the pan that most people buy. OP just bought their bogus nonstick pan for retards

>>18911779
I was focused more on the rack.

>>18911779
Don't blame OP, it was a simple mistake.
>want pan with a rack
>go to Costco
>happen to see pan with a rack
>"Surely it will be OK, Costco doesn't sell shit, right?" (muh "curated selection" myth)
>a lesson was learned
We've all been there in the age of Jelenik's Nu-Costco and the race to the bottom.

>>18911229
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene#History
>In 1954, Colette Grégoire, the wife of French engineer Marc Grégoire, urged him to try the material he had been using on fishing tackle on her cooking pans.

Women...

>>18911738
People don't buy them. Unless they see "nonstick" written on the label they think it's too difficult to cook with.

>>18911895
It really limits what you can do with a pan if you can't go above 400 or use broiler. Non stick has its place but not in this application.

>>18911200
What in the fuck are you constantly cooking at over 400? I cook every 2-3 days and this pan hasn't given me any problems, because I don't the "Clean" setting for cooking food. And if you're constantly broiling things then how do you not already have a cast iron pan/griddle to slap in there?

>>18911941
OP already answered that a few posts down. But...
>According to researchers, Teflon Brain Syndrome often first manifests as diminished reading comprehension.
Oh... oh, I'm so sorry...

>>18911941
What was this guy trying to say? Are you OK fella?

>>18911941
>cast iron
It's 2023. I think I will pass 5th century BC cooking tech. I am not larping as a civil war soldier etc.

>>18911500
I’m pretty sure the rack is the limiting factor (and that temp is similar to oven safe nonstick pans), if it helps a Costco rep posted this as a response to a review complaining about the temp:
>The racks are oven safe up to 450F. They are labeled at a lower temperature due to some ovens not being calibrated properly and can be off by up to 50F.

>>18912042
>Costco rep
Costco wageslaves don't know shit about materials engineering.

>>18912042
Good to know and thanks for the research. I think I will still take it back though and find some type of either steel or aluminum one. I don't know much about carbon steel or other materials but I am looking more towards the high end this time.

>>18911200
Well, you can use it to make jerky.

>>18912063
A regular steel/aluminum one won't?

>>18911200
>is there a pan I can bake and broil stuff on with a nice elevated rack?
I got two of these from Amazon just before Christmas.
They work great so far. I've used them for rubens, jalapeno poppers, a rib roast and meatballs.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TCBYZXC?psc=1
I had to shop around for size since my oven is only 22" wide on the inside and a standard "half sheet" is 13" wide, but two of these fill the oven nicely.

>>18911200
>Nonstick
You're retarded, you get the plain aluminum ones and add a fuckton of oil. You can tell it's well used from the discoloration and food gets crispy as fuck

>>18911200
Standard sized aluminum baking sheets from Nordicware or any of the million other brands making the exact same thing, and a standard sized wire cooling rack that fits perfectly inside it. I have like 10 of them in various sizes, they're retardedly easy to find at any restaurant supply or on Amazon

>>18911200
J

>>18912137
He's saying he can at least use the shitty one for low heat shit (like dehydrating meat)

>>18911229
Dupont faggots on this board will tell you to start using silicone instead but it's just as bad