/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18898079
no

>>18898079
Having your own hens and getting their eggs, or buying them from someone who does that is 100% worth the hype. Pasture raised/fancy store eggs are way to eggspensive.

If you're making custard getting the orange egg yolks makes it look BEAUTIFUL, so im that respect they are worthy of hype.

>>18898079
farm eggs are cheaper than store eggs so yes

>>18898079
egg producers in every country (and even in local regions) carefully control the diet of their chickens in order to get the color of eggs that the locals expect. they do this by adding or limiting the amount of beta carotene in the chicken feed. THAT'S IT THAT'S ALL!

grocery store eggs could be made dark orange or even red if they wanted. color has no bearing on where eggs were produced.

>>18898079
Pic happened because the one on the left is fresher than the one on the right.

>>18898079
IMO, it's one of the few 'prepper' type things that's actually worth it, but only if you breed your own chicks and have a sufficiently large breeding program in place. You need a minimum of 30 chickens, split into three flocks (1 rooster per flock, 9 hens). This is called 'spiral breeding'. You could probably get by with less, but flocks of 30 have gone on for hundreds of years with no issues arising from inbreeding.

Then, if SHTF, you can sell chicks and be a king. Like me, right now, during this egg crisis. If you're dependent on others for sourcing chicks, you're not as independent and robust against price hikes. But getting started with a small flock for learning is a great idea. And if you only have room for 10 chickens, maybe you can find a couple local friends or chicken raisers who want to take part in the spiral breeding program and house the remaining 10-20.

I'd recommend a good dual purpose bird like a beilefelder, bresse, etc, since you'll be culling and eating your subpar roos under this program.

>>18898303
Based and quality advice

>>18898079
Anon, the difference is in how fresh the egg is. Grocery store eggs are old as fuck when you buy them.
>doesn't matter if they are brown, white, or blue
>doesn't matter what chicken ate as long as their basic nutrition was met
>doesn't matter if it was a cagie chicken
Check the dates on the carton and buy as fresh as you can.
For best results drive 15min out of your city and buy for $3-$4 a dozen from rednecks. Dude I buy from has a piece if plywood he spray painted as his advertisement and chickens live in old rusted out econboxes from 80's and 90's. But his eggs are 2-3 days old and not washed.

>>18898434
>Anon, the difference is in how fresh the egg is. Grocery store eggs are old as fuck when you buy them.
sorry, no. that might be a factor, but even month old pastor raised eggs are better than fresh industrial eggs.

>>18898079
The less you process the egg, the more obvious the difference, obviously. And for something like a simple fried egg, it's a pretty good difference imo. But for something like baking where the egg's contribution to flavor is tertiary at best, just use cheap eggs, unless you need a specific chemistry (and if so you can just separate whites and yolks to the measure you need).

>>18898079
I have my own pasture raised chicks and I can clearly tell the difference between them and store bought, even "good quality" ones.
If you can get some from a local farmer go for it.

Fresh, unrefrigerated eggs are superior to grocery store eggs. Anything else is a meme that makes no difference.

>>18898561
This is retarded. I can see a point of getting anything fresh, but the whole point of this thread, and people who cook, and people who research and taste test the subject, is that when you raise chickens in a higher quality manner -- feed, behavior, environment -- you get higher quality eggs. Grocery stores can buy those eggs and sell it to you, or you can buy them from the farmer. Either way they will be superior to eggs from a caged chicken eating processed byproduct feed regardless of whether you suck the egg right from out of her asshole yourself.

i only buy eggs if the name of the specific farm is on the packaging

>>18898079
depends. the flavor of the egg/color of the yolk is dependent upon the diet of the chicken. if you or your local farmer is feeding his birds industrial goyslop, they wont taste much better than regular past-your-eyes eggs.

Blood spots are gross and I dig them out of all my eggs

>>18898561
>unrefrigerated eggs are superior to grocery store eggs
Why even usa has that shitty law? No-one else refrigerate eggs.

>>18899107
Google it. Read any of the hundreds of identical articles or youtube videos that answer that question. It's a matter of whether you clean the shell, thus removing its natural protective coating, before packaging or not. Not doing so risks having chicken shit traces on the shell which can get on the consumer's hands and spread shitty disease that way. Doing so requires refrigeration.

>>18899181
It seems that is analogous self convincing thing Americans do like total circumcisions. Useless but widespread.

>>18898079
Back before the eggflation issue, I tried heritage eggs versus the bog standard industrial eggs they churn out.

They indeed are exactly like OP's pic: more orange, and they do taste better. Were they worth the 4x cost? No, no they were not. But they are definitely better in looks and taste.

>>18898303
What is the lifecycle cost for raising chickens? Best info I have seen was it was several hundreds for setting up the coop and autofeeders, followed by $30+/mo for feed for a small scale operation. Even if the daily work is minimal, the initial investment seemed like it rendered it a wash long term. Especially since I need to fence the area to protect them from predators.

>>18899710
>Autofeeders
Just feed them 2 times per day, it only takes a minute.
Ask your local bakery if you can have the old bread they are throwing out. Softened in water, it's almost free food for your chickens.

>>18898079
Kek what a retarded pic. I'd prefer the one on the left since it's fresher (the internal alblumen hasn't broken). Freshness is the most important factor for egg flavor. You can feed your backyard chicken trash and their eggs will still taste better than whatever pasture eggs you can get in a store since they're fresher.

Like most anons already said, the most important part is being able to get FRESH eggs.

>>18898166
bullshit lol. the dark color of yolk can only come from a well fed and low stress hen. theres no way around that fact.

>>18900260
wrong. my brother was raising chickens and as an experiment I had him feed the hens carrot, the yolks went from yellow to dark orange.

this is a well know fact and in some countries they think the yellow yolks are a sign that the chickens are being given hormones so they feed them with NO beta carotene and they get white yolks.

just because you are an ignorant moron does not make a fact untrue.

do some research idiot.

I guarantee that if people in the US wanted red egg yolk egg producers would feed the chickens tons of beta carotene to make it happen.

>>18900260
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/07/12/201501977/help-my-egg-yolks-are-freakishly-white#:~:text=Beyer%20says%20egg%20yolk%20color,egg%20yolk%20could%20be%20white.%22

https://www.groovyjapan.com/en/kometuya/

if you google
"white egg yolk" you find tons of people freaked out and think that somehow they are dangerous to eat. when they are completely normal in some countries.

>>18900429
>>18898166
It's not just about yolk color. You can see some of the difference clearly in OP's pic. A major factor in egg quality is the firmness vs wateriness of the yolk, inner and outer whites, and the relative size and separation of the latter two. That's why even all the most basic caged industrial eggs are divided into grades A, B, and C based on that, of which only grade A are sold direct to consumer in grocery stores, while B and C (still perfectly edible) are used commercially in baked or processed goods.

The stereotypical good-environment good-diet eggs will typically those qualities that define grade A, but be even more pronounced.

>>18900469
I imagine white-yolked eggs could be very marketable for many classes of pastries and cocktails in which maintaining a white or clear color is of prime importance.

>>18901523
in OP's picture the "pasture raised" egg is very old or has some other problem. the thick albumin has deteriorated. while the store bought one is normal.

>>18899107
>>18899181
>>18899186
Whoever is spreading this misinfo has pic related understanding of agriculture. To think in the history of egg consumption no one thought to test this with a child tier experiment. Anyway the "protective" cuticle degrades naturally in a day or 2 so it's irrelevant, leaving the egg slightly vulnerable but really the only threat of contamination comes from the outer shell. unwashed countries vaccinate every hen though I suspect they wash too because I've never seen their regular store eggs with poop and bits of hay and dirt on them. I think just washing is the most logical and america wins this one. Why refrigerate? Don't actually have to at home but eggs will keep longer and they are transported across the global climate range that exists in NA and lots of stuff just says Keep Refrigerated to protect retards from poisoning themselves or ensure some kind of consistency. Room temp or Refrigerated eggs won't start dropping grades for 2 weeks. Refrigerated obviously will drop slower.

>>18898079
This thread inspired me to look for eggs on Craigslist. Found some locally for $4. Gonna get them on Monday. Will report back.