/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18863456
The only reason to wash your rice is if you think it is dirty. People "prefer it" because you don't have to since it barely affects the taste/texture at all. I'll wait for your massive cope reply about how it totally affects it but I'll preempt that by saying: no it doesn't. Faggot.

In the Wild West there ain't no rice. We got beans, deenz and washing machines, but we ain't got no rice. Comprende?

>>18863474
It's actually to rinse off the starch, know it all little shit.

>>18863474
It makes rice gelatinous.

>>18863456
It only effects texture if you specifically want white sticky rice, but the stereotype that whitey don't wash his rice is actually just a fact because tons of traditional European rice dishes actually don't work if you wash the rice, dishes like risotto and paella need the outer starch intact to come together properly. And then those euros brought rice and their rice cooking techniques the Americas

>>18863489
>>18863496
Yeah, I know the reasons people give, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't "wash off the starch" enough to affect taste & texture so it's unnecessary.

>>18863500
What a smooth brain. Lmaoing at your life kid.

>>18863489
>rinse off the starch
what do you think rice is made of?

>>18863518
Seeds

>>18863522
Of Chinamen?

>>18863456
my gf does because she likes the rice to not stick together, i prefer to not wash it because i like stickier clumpier rice

>>18863528
Nah. You're just lazy

>>18863479
Don't forget the fried chicken and cold beer on a friday night

>>18863528
You will literally die from eating it like that, it's poisonous with arsenic

I thought you wash the rice because of the arsenic and other shit. The actual stickiness and texture is more determined by how much water and what kind of rice you use right?

Starch asians wash out from rice is like 30% of nutrients in the rice thats why they all so small.

>>18863518
That's where the starch comes from. The grains rub against each other. You want to eat grains of rice, not ground rice.

>>18863572
YOU GOT A CREDIBLE SOURCE TO BACK THAT UP?

Lots of rice sold in the west is prewashed

>>18863456
Easterners don't even wash rice when we're not around. It's just a stupid long running joke they do to prank white people into doing something dumb like washing rice. Black people wash meat though.

>>18863456
I don't think it's western, just lazy. You can't expect them to wash rice when they don't wash their hands.

So if I like sticky Japonica rice, I should stop washing it?

>>18863456
In America it's mandatory to fortify rice by adding nutrient dust, so it would be counterproductive to wash it.

>>18863456
I eat rice on a daily basis and I do not wash it, I prefer it unwashed, I don't like how it turns to mush and opens up while cooking when you wash it. I prefer the grain to remain whole and I like the starch lightly caramelized. In poor countries rice is disgusting and comes full of shit and bugs, so they have to wash it even in spite of their preference of starch.

>>18863560
This could be the way out I'm looking for.

>>18864001
Can I get swole if I add nutrient dust to my diet? I'm aiming for an all powder diet and currently I only eat whey, kool-aid mix, and salt.

>>18864075
Bro, you do realize that the rice you're buying is from the same cunnties.

Mmmm wish I could go for some fresh sticky rice right now.

yeah was going to say something similar to >>18864001, in America the most common and cheapest rice at the supermarket is 'enriched' rice and it specifically says "DO NOT WASH" because then you're washing off the nutrient dust. You can taste this powder on the rice and its nasty, ...

>>18863560
washing rice won't help you there, par-boiling will though.

>>18863456
I only eat long grain rice, and you don't need to rinse it because most of the starch is inside the kernels.
I do wash short or medium grain rice on the rare occasions I use it.

>>18864632
Wait so that's not a joke? I thought he was just making fun of all the corn syrup additives in American groceries.

>>18864680
Last time I tried to par-boil something, I ended up with a birdie :(

>>18863456
What kind of rice soap do you use?

>>18864760
I don't use soap, I just use my own semen

>>18863456
This is the first I'm hearing of this. I come from a long line of honkeys that live in the United States, and we all wash our rice.

>>18864844
Post proof htat you are really a donkey!!!!!

>>18864850
No!

>>18864368
They have to prepare it to a better standard for export because first world countries won't accept insects and rat shit in their rice.

>>18863456
No

>>18863456
It doesn't affect texture or flavor. It does reduce levels of arsenic and heavy metals, but this is only an issue for rice grown in parts of China.

>>18863456
I live in northern europe and all my family rinses rice before boiling.
I do too, not sure why but at this point it's a part of my routine when cooking rice.

>>18864732
Yes it's so real, its actually hard to find rice in USA that's not 'enriched' unless you go to an asian market or health food store. Most people don't even really know (or care) that most brands have any additives, then the same people go to an asian restaurant and think "wow this plain steamed rice is way better than I can make it."

>>18863456
Yes, I trust the manufacturers that they already washed it.

>>18865325
you can just wash off the enrichment if it really bothers you that much

>>18863564
The arsenic is throughout the plant, so rinsing would do nothing to remove it.

I notice no difference between rinsing or not, but I only buy high quality sanitary first world rice.

>>18863499
OP doesn't care, he can't even see your post

>>18863500
Anybody that says this is just confirming theyre a ricelet. You dont even know what good rice is because youre used to starchy, sticky, gummy rice.

>>18865371
It does remove it. Look at these, all the abstracts I read indicated that washing was effective at removing arsenic.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=washing+rice+arsenic

>>18863456
It barely affects the texture and we don't have fucking gravel and dust in our rice because they're stored in sealed plastic or paper packages.

And yes, that's why you originally washed rice. It used to have gravel, dust, bugs, debris, fabric and all kinds of shit in it. Not to remove excess starch or arsenic.

>>18865325
Damn... even the rice is culturally enriched in America (cause it's white)

>>18863617
When why don't people wash their pasta?

>>18867398
People don't boil pasta until water evaporates.

>>18864732
Yeah I wasn't memeing lol. They also have to include a notice that tells you
>to retain vitamins do not rinse before or drain after cooking
so the customer is actually instructed not to wash their rice.

>>18867680
>forgot the fucking image

>>18865560

There’s no discussion to be had —

There is a significant drop in Arsenic when washed, and/or cooked in excess water.

Stickiness is a matter of Preference that can be achieved by adding slightly less or excess water.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=washing+rice+arsenic

/thread

We pretending that musenmai rice isn't a thing now?

>>18867827
No one knows what that is, chinky.

/ragusea/ did a video on it and the high levels of arsenic in rice mostly goes for rice grown in the american south because of shitty soil that's just naturally high in it
It's also way more of a problem with brown rice but as someone else ITT said, you should just parboil it

>>18867807
Bro but you need your arsenic for....!

>>18868395
Old lace.

>>18867398
They basically do, the water you boil pasta in is absolutely full of starch afterwards. You can use it to help thicken the sauce for your dish

>>18864001
>>18864632
>>18864732
>>18865325
>>18865350
>>18866927
>>18867680
>>18867682

holy shit "enriched" with what though, what is "nutrient dust" i don't even know

>>18868874
The United States legally requires minimum nutrient levels in some foods. Stuff like iron and calcium. It's why autistic people can live basically off of white bread and peanut butter for years, they're secretly being fed vitamins

>>18868193
>american south
>shitty soil
hahahah

>>18865325
Why are you lying on the internet about it being hard to find non-enriched rice in America? I just checked all the rice in my pantry. None of it was enriched and I didn't even know about enriched rice until now so it's not like I was seeking mine out.

>>18867807
>Arsenic is bad because... it just is okay? Trust the soyence!!!

>>18868923
Need golem to be strong.

>washing rice doesn't change anything!
Okay then why do the first few rinses result in cloudy water? Surely if rinsing rice was useless then my rice water would be clear right away, right?

>>18864368
No, we have domestic production here.
t. portuguese

>>18868193
Never heard of this guy before, but he's basically saying you should always wash the rice, so you lose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3CHsbNkr3c

>>18863456
>Is it true that it's common in West to not wash your rice?
no it's not true in the slightest. Anyone who says otherwise is just a retard who doesn't know how to cook rice. You wash it to rinse the starch off. That's necessary or else it comes out as a tasteless sticky mess that's unpleasant to eat.

It's like asking if people in the west eat bread without baking it. Do they seem to have baked bread? Then that's a dumb myth.

>>18869003
Arsenic is literally a poison. wtf.

OP did a funny trick here on accident or on purpose, idk.
He asked is people in the west did something (instantly gets the attention of some idiots ready to get super defensive of the west) and he phrased it as if they're weird for not doing it. This triggers them into wanting to defend their cultural norms.

But people in the west do rinse rice. But someone who doesn't cook much rice and is maybe used to instant rice more than anything might not know better.

>>18863456
Except the ethnics no one even uses real rice in my joke of a country (gastronomy wise).

Almost everyone except the ethnics uses 8 minute rice. It's all washed and "parboiled" at the factory (it's a little more advanced than parboiling).

>>18869415
t. east european

i bought botan rice for a while and tasted no difference between washing/not so i didn't waste my time

>>18869390
>Arsenic is literally a poison. wtf.

>>18869427
god I hope this is just a dumb ironic meme thing you're doing.

>>18869425
Loved masturbating to botan in YYH, glad she got her own rice brand now.

>>18869444
Arsenic was used medicinally (safely and effectively, as your kind says) for thousands of years until the (((FDA))) decided in the 1930s that it was bad, the only acceptable medicines just happened to be patented by pharmaceutical companies owned by jews, and seed oils, refined sugar, and fluoride were good. Don't you find that a *little* suspicious? There's zero evidence arsenic is anything but good. I'm being dead serious here.

>>18869471
>thousands of years
as a poison.
It was only used as medicine during a period smaller than 300 years in specific regions due to one person who found specific compounds worked for certain diseases caused by infection. It wasn't "safe", it had costly side effects, but it was a good alternative to dying.
Antibiotics work far better without the risk. Arsenic has always had a reputation as a good reliable slow poison. Minimal long term risks in small doses made it useful against rats.

There are currently tests being done to see if specific tiny amounts of the right arsenic compound can be used to treat cancer in isolated doses, not as a pill you swallow. This is still in the works, and just like chemo, it's an alternative to dying of cancer, so any health risks.

Your world is full of retarded conspiracies based on half-baked truths and "thems" and "your kinds" always out to get you. Fuck off.

>>18868874
Don't question it, you will consume the dust and be happy.

>>18868874
it's probably parboiled so there's some bran nutrients, not sure why you can't rinse it though

Does anyone else like the smell of deteriorating bran?

>>18868923
fortified milk, iodized salt, cereal is basically vitamin dust too

>>18869579
Not an argument moshe. I will eat ze arsenic and there’s not a damn thing you can do to stop me.

>>18871135
ok just make sure to eat a lot of it so it works

>>18863456
depends on the brand. cheaper brands with broken grains and shitty processing practices get rice flour everywhere. whatever basmati rice ive got now is clean, ive never rinsed the stuff.

>>18863649
They buy pre washed rice.

>>18863456
white people also dont wash their balls its fucking crazy

>>18865325
Isn't it supposed to be enriched by government law? Like stores aren't allowed to sell non enriched rice?

>>18867682
I'm from Texas and rice + pork chops with mushroom gravy is pure soul food

>>18871249
If you use non iodine salt they will kill your dog. Make sure your toothpaste has flouride in it too or the local rabbi will deem you non kosher

>>18871299
I'm dating my landlord don't worry I'll be fine.

Unwashed rice = extra protein/vitamins/goodstuffs. This is how it goes in the land of the free, deal with it poorfags. You have to wash the rice because yours is dirty and full of bugs.

>>18863474
You should wash it. I've had little critters come up in rice from the store and I'm American. If you're not just LARPing (you are) then you've eaten little insects with your food.

>>18863500
Rice texture depends on the water it's cooked in. Starch traps water. So, obviously, water with more starch in it doesn't evaporate as readily and you end up with a more mushy rice at the end. Some people like that (I do from time to time) but if you want more crispness you would want to rinse the rice until it gives off clear water.

>>18863649
>Whites don't wash they rice
>Whites don't even wash they chicken

Seriously, y'all like cavemen.

Even if you don't care to wash off excess starch, you should still wash your rice, just like how you should wash everything you buy. You don't know where that shit has been.

>>18871658
You want me to wash my bread?

>>18871658
now do I wash the package of chicken before taking off the cellophane, or the chicken itself?

>>18863456
people who just boil rice in water shouldn't opine on how to cook rice

pingpongchingchongs be like
>OOOOOO NOOOOO U CANT BLOWN LICE IN BUTTEL WITH SHARROTS AND COOK IT IN CHICKEN STOCK YOU HAVE TO STEAM IT IN WATEL FOL THE BRANDEST TLADITIONAR ASIAN LICE

>>18871777
YES

>>18871820
there's no other way to cook rice

>>18871820
Yes, if you don't do the olive oil refogado/soffrito first, you have never tasted rice as it meant to be tasted.

>>18870998
>>18871299
What is the problem with iodine in salt. I love in the Portuguese northern coast, where there's a lot of iodine in the sea. It gives off that smell present in sea lettuce, which is what I associate with the flavour of the sea. I buy sea salt with iodine because I prefer that taste.

>>18869409
I live in the west, eat rice everyday and I don't wash it. It's a choice, not ignorance.

>>18871916
cooklet get out of my face

Unwashed rice = unwashed chicken = unwashed penis. All these are bound together.

I've seen this discussion many times, but few people mention polish.
The hull of rice contains more oil than the body.
Oil oxidizes and deteriorates in the air and gives off a bad odor.
Oil is a protective coating to retain moisture.

>>18863456
Sometimes I wash my rice if the goal of my meal is to have very loose rice as a texture. Sometimes I knowingly avoid washing my rice if the goal of my meal is for the rice to stick together.

>>18872204
>I've seen this discussion many times, but few people mention polish.
This, in Poland, we wash our rice.

>>18867807
Looks like cooking in abundant water makes a much bigger difference than washing before cooking

>>18871358
>I'm American
this is exactly why there are bugs in your fuckin food

>>18871931
What we get in America that's popular, Morton's and store brand iodized salt is not the naturally occurring form, they take dry potassium iodate powder and mix it with salt ... and you're right it does affect the flavor, since this is the most widely available form of salt then that's what most Americans just think salt tastes like and they don't realize its affecting the taste of recipes, particularly for making food from other cultures.

>>18872204
This. You can buy "no wash" rice that's been put through a polishing machine, picrel is the residue that comes out of it.

>>18872953
Is that what fortification color is?

>>18863456
Only true because westernized rice is vitamin fortified, washing the rice removes the powdered vitamin fortifications.

>>18863456
Even though you have bought an excellent quality rice, you should really wash it.

>>18872204
>short grain
*pukes*

>>18863479
>In the Wild West there ain't no rice.
Well hold up right there partner, how can there be no rice is a native crop to them southern Indians... which part of the Wild West you say you were from again? I smell a liar

>>18874427
>t. never had risotto or paella

>>18863489
No it doesn't.
Washing rice is and always has been about removing bugs. "It gets rid of starch" is a weird cope reason that western people invent for why they're mimicking third-worlders when making rice.
Paella and risotto are core western rice dishes and cannot be made with washed rice. There's not a single dish on the planet that is "wrong" if it's made WITHOUT washed rice. It's purely a cleanliness practice that gets aped by retards.

>>18871362
>if you don't wash the rice it ends up mushy
What dimension do you live in?

>>18874589
>There's not a single dish on the planet that is "wrong" if it's made WITHOUT washed rice
Pilaf, biryani, any dish where you want the grains as separate and firm as possible

>>18872833
Americans don’t use white pepper either? Just pre ground, black pepper. Kosher salt? That’s for heebs, it’s the iodine salt for me. Call me a tastelet if you must, I also eat Wonder bread with margine. Yum

>>18865511
i like it that way, what now? you lose, waste time if you feel the need to

do you know about watermelon rice

>>18876976
YOOOOO

>>18876976
>it's real
https://cookpad.com/us/recipes/10530906-water-melon-rice

>>18874597
Yes, unrinsed rice ends up mushier than thoroughly rinsed rice. Problem?
>>18872827
Cope 3rd worlder. America leads the world in food sanitation while simultaneously producing enough food to feed ourselves AND your shithole.

>>18868874
>"enriched" with what though
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=137.350
Enriched is a very specific legal term that means it has B vitamins, calcium, and iron added to it. Fortified is the generic term that can mean almost anything.

>>18874589
I dunno, I mostly do it to get the texture of the rice to match my preference. Maybe it started out as a way to remove bugs but that's not the reason a lot of people do it anymore.

>>18874443
>native crop to them southern Indians

Chinaman propaganda

I get the feeling that rice washing is the /ck/ equivalent of the foreskin discussion.

>>18872833
Interesting. I honestly do not know if the salt with iodine I get is 100% naturally occurring, but it is labelled as coarse ("kosher", for you americans) sea salt, so it might be. In the south of the country, the sea doesn't have as much iodine (you can also tell the difference from smelling the sea breeze in the different coasts), but the smell/taste with iodine is much more reminiscent of "briny" and I do prefer it.

>>18863456
Washing the rice is a pain the ass so I don't bother.
The main reason to do it is to keep your rice from being sticky, but I don't give a single fuck about that.

>>18872505
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S030881461830431X

>>18878179
It also makes your rice into flavorless slop, you lazy fat fuck. That' why you then need those extra high calorie sauces to "give it taste". That's why you obese. You are fat!

>>18878113
>I honestly do not know if the salt with iodine I get is 100% naturally occurring
It's not, iodine is not a mineral component and does not occur in salt deposits. They started adding iodine to salt in the 20th century because it's easy to become deficient. Kind of like how they started adding Vitamin A to rice exported to third world because everyone there
just ate rice and was getting all kinds of fucked up effects from deficiency.

>>18878221
I've tried it both ways and it tastes about the same.
Also I don't put sauce on rice and I'm thin.
So wrong on all counts.

>>18878235
>I've tried it both ways and it tastes about the same.
No it doesn't, youare using cheap american "fortified" rice, and your taste buds are dead. Well cooked rice is delicious and you can tell the different rice types just by the taste. Stupid fat.

>>18863456
Not in the west. And I don't wash it.

>>18878251
Cringe ricebrain.

>>18878258
I...honestly don't know who should be more offended by this

>>18878275
Nobody. Fucking normies and d&c victim shit that pushed from the (((top))).

>>18863456
I wish my rice because I hate when it clumps. I also cook it the same way I cook pasta, with too much water that I drink in the sink when the rice is done.

>>18867398
The fuck do you think is in pasta water?

>>18864753
Fuck you anon.

>>18869361
>Never heard of this guy before
First day on /ck/, huh?

>>18878488
I dont get the joke, how did he end up with a bride

>rice COOKER exists
>rice WASHER does not exist

Why???

i dont wash basmati rice and it is not clumpy by any means what the fuck is going on with everyone else, is it just that i toast the rice in a little oil first or something???

>>18878251
Based esl chink

>>18879907
Because who would buy it? Rice enjoyers LOVE washing they rice by hand.

>>18879907
>>rice WASHER does not exist
They do have automatic ones used in restaurants. They have a viewing window to show you the color of the water coming off

>>18880603
that's pretty cool

>>18880603
I would like a smaller one please

>>18878251
What brand of rice should I be buying in China? I've lived here quite some time, but the options are staggering. I normally eat it white just because the bread here is atrocious.